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		<title>By: SiekSnortoffie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>SiekSnortoffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry...But i dont get the whole &quot;transformation&quot; thing...Fucken hell....This country has been transforming since 94....Geezus!!! Shouldnt we be transformed by now...We can talk about this kak topic untill we are blue in the face...But isnt it more democratic and fair if a person is in a position where he DESERVES to be and not just placed there to fill a quota.....Ag anyway...fuck it!!!

Go crime and poverty!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;But i dont get the whole &#8220;transformation&#8221; thing&#8230;Fucken hell&#8230;.This country has been transforming since 94&#8230;.Geezus!!! Shouldnt we be transformed by now&#8230;We can talk about this kak topic untill we are blue in the face&#8230;But isnt it more democratic and fair if a person is in a position where he DESERVES to be and not just placed there to fill a quota&#8230;..Ag anyway&#8230;<acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> it!!!</p>
<p>Go crime and poverty!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DavidSp</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidSp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is weird.

It differs from what the SARU website published.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is weird.</p>
<p>It differs from what the SARU website published.</p>
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		<title>By: adoons</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>adoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zinto,

It&#039;s a formidable team you have there :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zinto,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a formidable team you have there <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zinto</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Zinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best thing is to have a black team made out of the best black players in the country join the S14 and have the rest of the coaches choose their teams on merit, including or excluding the black players left in the rest of the franchises.
Maybe call them the Black Mambas;
The thirty players could include:
15. Conrad Janjes/Shandre Frolick/JP Pietersen
14. Tonderia Chavanga/ Jongi Nokwe 
13. Bryan Habana/ Gobani Bobo
12. Wayne Julies/Dewey Swartbooi
11. Ashwin Willemse/Cedric Mhize
10. Earl Rose/Andre Hough
9. Paul Delport/Ricky Januarie/Bolla Conradie
8. Sean Plaatjies/Jonathan Makwena
7. Tim Dlulani/Solly Tybilika
6. Kabamba Floors/
5. Wayne van Heerden/Nicholai Blignaut
4. Quinton Davids/ Devon Raubenheimer
3. Eddie Andrews/ Laurence Sephaka
2. Hanyani Shimangi/ Chiliboy Ralepele
1. Guthro Steenkamp

I recon this squad could give any of the &quot;white/merit&quot; a run for their money. A few youngsters that could make name for themselves? Maybe a bit in the lock position, but other than that, bloody powerful!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing is to have a black team made out of the best black players in the country join the S14 and have the rest of the coaches choose their teams on merit, including or excluding the black players left in the rest of the franchises.<br />
Maybe call them the Black Mambas;<br />
The thirty players could include:<br />
15. Conrad Janjes/Shandre Frolick/JP Pietersen<br />
14. Tonderia Chavanga/ Jongi Nokwe<br />
13. Bryan Habana/ Gobani Bobo<br />
12. Wayne Julies/Dewey Swartbooi<br />
11. Ashwin Willemse/Cedric Mhize<br />
10. Earl Rose/Andre Hough<br />
9. Paul Delport/Ricky Januarie/Bolla Conradie<br />
8. Sean Plaatjies/Jonathan Makwena<br />
7. Tim Dlulani/Solly Tybilika<br />
6. Kabamba Floors/<br />
5. Wayne van Heerden/Nicholai Blignaut<br />
4. Quinton Davids/ Devon Raubenheimer<br />
3. Eddie Andrews/ Laurence Sephaka<br />
2. Hanyani Shimangi/ Chiliboy Ralepele<br />
1. Guthro Steenkamp</p>
<p>I recon this squad could give any of the &#8220;white/merit&#8221; a run for their money. A few youngsters that could make name for themselves? Maybe a bit in the lock position, but other than that, bloody powerful!!!</p>
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		<title>By: adoons</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>adoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what a load of bull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a load of bull.</p>
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		<title>By: Btown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Btown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[St.P 

Good suggestion. Everybody ussually wants to know whats in it for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>St.P </p>
<p>Good suggestion. Everybody ussually wants to know whats in it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Zinto</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Zinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cats and Stormers shouldn&#039;t have a problem meeting these targets. They have Nokwe, Chavanga, Delport/Conradie, Andrews and Shimmangi. So they could have at least for 4 or five players of colour at every given time. For the Cats there&#039;s Janjes, Human, Willemse, Julies, Sephaka and Januarie who should be starting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cats and Stormers shouldn&#8217;t have a problem meeting these targets. They have Nokwe, Chavanga, Delport/Conradie, Andrews and Shimmangi. So they could have at least for 4 or five players of colour at every given time. For the Cats there&#8217;s Janjes, Human, Willemse, Julies, Sephaka and Januarie who should be starting.</p>
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		<title>By: Hier kom groot k..</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Hier kom groot k..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do not feed the baboon...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not feed the <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We are perhaps the most dominant force in world rugby today...&quot;

Bulls --- absolutely NIL; Otago Highlanders 23.

That&#039;s the most recent encounter&#039;s score!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are perhaps the most dominant force in world rugby today&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Bulls &#8212; absolutely NIL; Otago Highlanders 23.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the most recent encounter&#8217;s score!</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can ANY SA side ever field an all-white team?

Oh, the answer is no?

That means that a quota system is in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can ANY SA side ever field an all-white team?</p>
<p>Oh, the answer is no?</p>
<p>That means that a quota system is in place.</p>
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		<title>By: St.Petersburgbok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>St.Petersburgbok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally....I think it is a cop out.

I would have been happier with a target of 4 compared with 2.

I don&#039;t think game by game analysis is correct either.

This would logically suggest 3 as a better number....however, incentives (possibly test match allocations) should be awarded to franchises who excede the target.

We need to try and make this program as incentive based as possible.....money seems to be the only thing we understand, why noy make it the bench mark?

Also, if anyone was to suggest franchises would field only black/colored players(even ones who are not ready for S14 level) so they could get to host all the test matches.....well then they need to be careful of relegation from the S14?

comments?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally&#8230;.I think it is a cop out.</p>
<p>I would have been happier with a target of 4 compared with 2.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think game by game analysis is correct either.</p>
<p>This would logically suggest 3 as a better number&#8230;.however, incentives (possibly test match allocations) should be awarded to franchises who excede the target.</p>
<p>We need to try and make this program as incentive based as possible&#8230;..money seems to be the only thing we understand, why noy make it the bench mark?</p>
<p>Also, if anyone was to suggest franchises would field only black/colored players(even ones who are not ready for S14 level) so they could get to host all the test matches&#8230;..well then they need to be careful of relegation from the S14?</p>
<p>comments?</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KWV Hanbana is a wing, end of story. Sorry but the guy is the best wing in world rugby at present. So why should he be considered a quota player for the Bulls on Wing?
And i think the Quota thing is bullshit.and most of the kak people speak here to lol.
Habana a quota player LMFAO. Here lies the problem, Habana is black, yet the best in his posistion, so now the dooses that make these desicions have let this backfire on them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KWV Hanbana is a wing, end of story. Sorry but the guy is the best wing in world rugby at present. So why should he be considered a quota player for the Bulls on Wing?<br />
And i think the Quota thing is bullshit.and most of the kak people speak here to lol.<br />
Habana a quota player LMFAO. Here lies the problem, Habana is black, yet the best in his posistion, so now the dooses that make these desicions have let this backfire on them?</p>
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		<title>By: twojays</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>twojays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New Zealand is finding it increasingly difficult to field four &quot;pakeha&quot; in their super 14 teams. In a year or so the Auckland Blues &amp; Waikato will be 100% polynesian with only Canterbury matching anything like the true demographics of New Zealand.  Meanwhile, Fiji, Somoa et al continue to struggle with rugby at grass roots while the NZRFU rub their hands with glee as the cash flows in like a tidal stream]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Zealand is finding it increasingly difficult to field four &#8220;pakeha&#8221; in their super 14 teams. In a year or so the Auckland Blues &amp; Waikato will be 100% polynesian with only Canterbury matching anything like the true demographics of New Zealand.  Meanwhile, Fiji, Somoa et al continue to struggle with rugby at grass roots while the NZRFU rub their hands with glee as the cash flows in like a tidal stream</p>
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		<title>By: Hier kom groot k..</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Hier kom groot k..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KWV,

Yes he is a centre as well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KWV,</p>
<p>Yes he is a centre as well!</p>
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		<title>By: KWV</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>KWV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hkgk,
habana is a CENTRE (never-mind brilliant), yet he&#039;s filling the spot in the Bulls team that is reserved for a quota player. Even I&#039;m pissed.  Play him at centre. :-&#124;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hkgk,<br />
habana is a CENTRE (never-mind brilliant), yet he&#8217;s filling the spot in the Bulls team that is reserved for a quota player. Even I&#8217;m pissed.  Play him at centre. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':-|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hier kom groot k..</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Hier kom groot k..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quota confusion will never be resolved.  As long as there are quotas, there will be confusion.  What exactly is a quota player?

What for example is so black about Bryan Habana - he went to KES, he is a Bloubul liefling, he is brilliant, yet he is filling the spot in the Bulls team that is reserved for a quota player.  I will be pissed of if I was him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quota confusion will never be resolved.  As long as there are quotas, there will be confusion.  What exactly is a quota player?</p>
<p>What for example is so black about Bryan Habana &#8211; he went to KES, he is a Bloubul liefling, he is brilliant, yet he is filling the spot in the Bulls team that is reserved for a quota player.  I will be pissed of if I was him.</p>
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		<title>By: rimpels</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>rimpels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last everyone knows what&#039;s going on!! I dont know where the mix up came in but it sure was frustrating!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last everyone knows what&#8217;s going on!! I dont know where the mix up came in but it sure was frustrating!!</p>
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		<title>By: Btown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Btown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has never been real commitment to development. That is the reason why there is a surplus of wings other than white. Identify the talent from U/19 and U/21 and give them preferential treatment. There is nothing to be ashamed of to give talented youngsters other than white preferential treatment. It worked for almost 40 yrs under NP rule, and for a nation still in transition, it could work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has never been real commitment to development. That is the reason why there is a surplus of wings other than white. Identify the talent from U/19 and U/21 and give them preferential treatment. There is nothing to be ashamed of to give talented youngsters other than white preferential treatment. It worked for almost 40 yrs under NP rule, and for a nation still in transition, it could work.</p>
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		<title>By: Btown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Btown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Testing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testing</p>
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		<title>By: bloubulsd</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/23/quota-confusion/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>bloubulsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the guy who said we should do it Zim style, why don&#039;t you go and live in Zim you dumb, moronic butt monkey!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the guy who said we should do it Zim style, why don&#8217;t you go and live in Zim you dumb, moronic butt <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym>!</p>
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