Jaco turns to Jake for help
26 Jan 2006
Jake White will fly to Japan with Jaco van der Westhuyzen in two weeks time to hold negotiations with the NEC Green Rockets.
Die Burger on Thursday reported that the Bok coach would be making the trip in the hope of getting permission from the Green Rockets for Van der Westhuyzen to play Super 14 rugby for a South African franchise.
Earlier this month Van der Westhuizen was rumoured to be joining the Stormers, who are in desperate need of a quality No 10, but the player is still locked into a contract with his Japanese club.
“According to my contract with NEC, I am only allowed to play for the Springboks,” Van der Westhuizen told Herbert Pretorius. “But I’m optimistic that they won’t stand in my way of playing Super 14 rugby.”
The Bok flyhalf, who missed the end of year tour with a knee injury, is expecting to be fully fit in six weeks time. “My rehabilitation has gone well,” he said.
Van der Westhuyzen was dropped during the course of last season, with Andre Pretorius taking ownership of the green and gold No 10 jersey. The NEC pivot would greatly increase his chances of regaining his position if he played Super 14 rugby – a competition of a far higher standard than Japan’s Top League.
66 Comments
26 Jan 2006, 07:58 am
Good on you Jake …..bring him back!
26 Jan 2006, 07:58 am
Hope one of those Japanese Dragons Don’t get to Jake.
Cheers
26 Jan 2006, 08:01 am
koe,front and centre.what happened to the dan que que fund.
hobo what are the training days and times at centurion rugby club.like to start of just playing some touch and will see from there.
26 Jan 2006, 08:01 am
Will only benefit the Boks to have Jaco playing the S14 with the Bok centres at his outside.
He will have to adapt to having **** ball with no forwards to speak of though!
26 Jan 2006, 08:09 am
Bliksem
Good to see that you are back, with us. Training days are on (Monday`s, Wensday`s.Thursday`s) from 6:30 to 8:00. Some of the guy’s come 10 to 20 min earlier and we play some touch rugby. Hope you come co`s the team spirit is great!! First game we are going to clerks dorp.
26 Jan 2006, 08:21 am
Jake wants him at Stormers will they let him play at no 10. From what I ‘ve heard things are not well in their camp.
26 Jan 2006, 08:23 am
Playing in Japan kept him fresh at least. Still only a stop-gap at flyhalf, especially with Butch “the real deal” returning in march.
26 Jan 2006, 08:25 am
Narnia,
Tell us some more?
26 Jan 2006, 08:26 am
Jaco the akedis running on hot sand is not the answer for SA but could be the solution at 10 for the Stormers.
26 Jan 2006, 08:29 am
Lol @ 3rdday… akedis?
26 Jan 2006, 08:31 am
Would be interesting to see how Jaco will fit into the Stormers game plan, should he get an oppurtunity ?
26 Jan 2006, 08:35 am
All sounds like a pipe dream….
26 Jan 2006, 08:37 am
LOL, Butch “the real deal”.
26 Jan 2006, 08:39 am
Jonathan Kaplan Rules!!!!
26 Jan 2006, 08:40 am
Oh howzit Blueblood, didn’t see you there
26 Jan 2006, 08:40 am
This guy is class, we all underate him.
Fully fit at 10 he will do the job.
And Butch James “the real deal” LMFAO will get one game in and take 13 months of for another injury, so he is hardly a threat to Jaco.
26 Jan 2006, 08:42 am
With the Stormers weak powderpuff pack i think Jaco-San should stay in Japan, eat some sushi, have saki and sing some karaoke.
26 Jan 2006, 08:43 am
Yawn
I thought it was a couple locks and props the Stormers needed?
Even if Jaco did arrive, I can’t see him being given the fly half berth at such a late stage.
And then after the S14 reverting back to Grant?
Sounds like a load of bollocks.
I bet the Stormers management is hoping NEC don’t allow Jaco to play….it would put them in a very uncomfortable position having to tell Jake that Jaco doesn’t fit in with their plans.
26 Jan 2006, 08:46 am
Provided Butch “the Real Deal” James (he should seriously start calling himself that) can still actually walk, he’ll prove all you doubting Thom-arses wrong.
26 Jan 2006, 08:46 am
Agree with StP, there is no way in hell that Jaco will be playing S14 at this late stage
26 Jan 2006, 08:54 am
rehabilitation has gone well, but how fit is he?
in yesterday’s live interview, moaner also said grant is their first choice – so will they change that view once jaco arrives?
jaco had a very good 2004 for the boks, and our backs looked good with him at 10 – he will also be surrounded by all his bok team mates, jaco running out for the stormers can only strengthen the side – grant can be nurtured and given game time as the season progress.
jaco’s kicking also improved, if i am not mistaken, he had 100% record in PE against the frenchies???? might be wrong though.
26 Jan 2006, 08:55 am
Keo: I am also interested in what’s happening with the Dan Qeqe fund….
26 Jan 2006, 08:55 am
i wonder if HM is also not expressing some interest in this move – he needs a back up for roets. but will jake want jaco to play 15 – or does he want him to get game time at 10?
26 Jan 2006, 09:31 am
It is VERY important that Jaco plays Super 14. The mosty likely scenario is that he will play for the Stormers and play second fiddle to Grant until fit. When he is fit then they will play horses for courses.
26 Jan 2006, 09:49 am
Why is he going to the Stormers when we all know he wants to play for the AWESOME CATS!!!
26 Jan 2006, 09:50 am
Where ever he plays, he must still learn how to make first time effective tackles, and not always hang on opponents for a second or so, and get shrugged off anyway. The first line of deffence through the midfield has been broken so many times because of Jaco’s ineffective tackles (as with Monty), and many unwanted tries have been scored against the boks resulting from this.
26 Jan 2006, 10:42 am
“The Stormers are desperately in need of a quality flyhalf”
They are desperstely in need of a lot of things!
Jaco, be wise and stay away. Why did De Waal, Hougaard, Russell and the likes left and did not want to return? Go play for any other team behind a decent tight five( not light five) or return to your roots in Pta.
26 Jan 2006, 10:46 am
So all the stuff he said about playing in Japan improving his game is ****?!
My view is get out of Nippon but don’t go and play S14. Rather sign for Leicester it will improve his game and prepare him for the WC in the Northern Hemisphere.
Jake should also support the idea as he then has a SH fh (Pretorius) and NH fh in JvdW.
Playing S14 will sharpen his game but he isn’t going to learn anything new.
26 Jan 2006, 10:54 am
Train – only problem with your theory is that Jaco is more suited to SH conditions, and AP’s kicking game is more suited to NH conditions.
26 Jan 2006, 11:16 am
Fair point, but Jaco was a huge hit at Leceister in his brief visit there.
26 Jan 2006, 11:25 am
It would be good to see Jaco at the Stormers from a Bok perspective, but like i mentioned earlier its all a dream IMO, i rather they spent the Cash on securing a couple of hard ******** not another twinkle toe back !
26 Jan 2006, 11:30 am
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26 Jan 2006, 11:34 am
yeah, nearly all the quality south africans who go play in england become star players in their teams. its because the standard of rugby there is so poor, yet the professional set-ups of the clubs so good. its an environment in which they excel.
26 Jan 2006, 11:40 am
Sort of correct Munki – i suspect playing in the UK is might less stressful than playing here in the republic !
26 Jan 2006, 11:43 am
zero u zero now u spoilt my birthday. and it was going so well.
kaplan had better not ref anything to do with the Bulls even if it’s two different teams playing whose result will influence the standing of the Bulls. Then we are in our dingis in.
kaplan and his fatboy dim ollie won’t be allowed to cheat the Bulls outta anything this year.
i’ll run onto the pitch and pull a Piet van Potch on myself.
26 Jan 2006, 11:59 am
S14 is probably superior to Heinekn Cup but – all things being equal. But I think there is a lot of value from getting familiar with the conditions, grounds and the players – seeing and playing against the English and French teams will be very helpful.
26 Jan 2006, 12:05 pm
Jaco is a choker, lets face it. His best game for the Boks was the hammering against Uruguay…where any schoolboy number 10 would’ve looked good. Against big opposition he just isn’t the answer. But beggers can’t be choosers…so I reckon the Stormers should take him if given the chance!
26 Jan 2006, 12:08 pm
Howzit BlueBlood
Enjoy the birthday
Gimme your cell and maybe I can get Ollie to give you tinkle!
26 Jan 2006, 12:24 pm
Test.
26 Jan 2006, 12:25 pm
parisian
And what about his performances for Leicester where he was outstanding and afterwards he had a brilliant yr in 2004 when we won the TN… Cmon, he is a good player.
26 Jan 2006, 12:26 pm
Ollie may be a big boy, but he won’t be able to handle the words he hears. When I close my eyes at night all I see is that photo of him smoking that cigar with that smug look on his face.
I can imagine what he was thinking “I can’t believe we just won the CC by cheating and bribing kaplan”
26 Jan 2006, 13:13 pm
The guy was class at Leister
he is a good player, to me looks like he plays on confidence.
Japan may have weakened his game, it looks like the super 12 moved on while he was playing in Japan, came back and was out of sorts.
26 Jan 2006, 13:36 pm
What is JAco gonna do at fly if he doesn’t get the ball. Stormers don’t need another fly, the need a tight 5
26 Jan 2006, 14:00 pm
the bulls needs a captain, the cats need a flyhalf, the cheetahs need all round experience, and the sharks need a miracle. elke huis het sy kruis (sorry robd)
26 Jan 2006, 14:03 pm
Munkiboy,
AP is not allowed to run at his opposite number when playing for the Boks and now he has become known as a “kicking flyhalf”. That is so untrue, he is a better runner and distributor than Jaco on top of being a better kicker. Watch AP play for the Cats and see him take on his opposite number. It is such an injustice forcing such a brilliant player into a certain pattern. Let him play his game, you cannot take his instinct out of the equation.
26 Jan 2006, 14:23 pm
Returning from Japan and playing for the Stormers, Jaco will be used playing behind a light five not a tight five.
26 Jan 2006, 14:25 pm
Rumour has it that like cricket team’s prima donnas , Stormers has a few of the same. They want to practise on their terms.
26 Jan 2006, 14:47 pm
mmm … er …. um?
26 Jan 2006, 15:02 pm
Thanks for the info hobo.I’ll be at about 6 just to play some touchies for a start.Watch out for the smooth runner,good stepper off both feet.Hang around me I’ll put you into some gaps.See you there.
26 Jan 2006, 15:36 pm
Silent Bob,
sssshhht
PissAnt,
What do the Stormers need????
26 Jan 2006, 15:37 pm
“Rumour has it that the Stormers have a few primma donnas”…….lol
Rumour has it that earthlings need oxygen to survive!!!
26 Jan 2006, 15:46 pm
the stormers needs a coach and a team….
26 Jan 2006, 18:23 pm
Boychie – I acknowledge AP is a good running flyhalf, and scarily Jaco also has a decent kicking game. But I’d take a fit and on form Jaco over a fit and on form AP in any conditions. Especially on the hard and fast fields more common in the SH.
I think the most dangerous flyhalf we have though is Butch. Fit and on form, he’d be my first choice. Then Jaco, then AP. As for the rest. I think they are all some way behind at this stage.
26 Jan 2006, 18:23 pm
thanks stan. I see your input is as valuable as always.
26 Jan 2006, 20:48 pm
No issues Ig,just a backstop for guys posting
under my nick.
26 Jan 2006, 21:01 pm
Yes Stan,
Sperm whales se gat blouballas.
When the Bulle land in australasia
they hit the road…
and then hit the road home.
26 Jan 2006, 22:17 pm
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27 Jan 2006, 08:09 am
Munki I wouldn’t really call the fields in NZ hard and quick. Ditto for Newlands really.
27 Jan 2006, 12:01 pm
Guys seems like Eugene was right all along? Haven’t seen this guy play yet, but Eric Herbert seems to have a high regard for this guy. This piece I copied from Suparugby.co.za:
Hough beter as De Waal-hulle – André Bester
27 Jan 2006, 12:03 pm
Sorry about that.
Hough beter as De Waal-hulle – André Bester
27 Jan 2006, 12:04 pm
Hough beter as De Waal-hulle – André Bester
2006-1-26
Die nuwe Cats-losskakel André Hough is beter as albei die Cheetahs se nommer-10’s, Willem de Waal en Meyer Bosman én die Cats se Tiaan Snyman, sê die man wat beter behoort te weet as enigiemand anders – die voormalige skopkoning Eric Herbert.
Herbert is naas Naas Botha die man wat die meeste eersterangse punte nog in Suid-Afrika aangeteken het en Hough se mentor die afglope agt maande in Welkom.
“Houghie sal dit maak. Hy moet net ‘n behoorlike kans in groot geselskap kry.
“Ek dink hy is baie beter as Snyman en selfs beter as die Cheetahs se twee hoogaangeskrewe losskakels,� sê Herbert.
Hough kan die eerste Griffons-speler word dat ‘n wedstryd in die Super 10- 12- en 14-reekse speel indien hy sy plek in die Cats-groep behou.
Die groot losskakel van 101 kilogram en groot skoen kry vanaand (Donderdagaand) in Welkom sy groot kans in die Cats se Skaduspan teen die Pumas en tussen spelers soos Enrico Januarie, Wayne Julies en Jaque Fourie kan hy gedy.
27 Jan 2006, 13:05 pm
RedCard. I was generalising. In comparison to Bloemfontein, I wouldn’t either. But newlands in March vs Edinburgh in November?
27 Jan 2006, 13:47 pm
If anyone’s in desprate need of a quality 10 it’s the Cats, not the Stormers.
Besides playing for the Cats he WILL have Bok centres at his outside and be close to Pretoria where his heart probably longs for.
27 Jan 2006, 15:09 pm
So DavidSp – the best use of our flyhalf resources is to get the top 2 in the country to play for your S14 team?
27 Jan 2006, 16:52 pm
mmm … urp … wibble?
27 Jan 2006, 19:22 pm
St Pietersburg is right
No rated No.10 stands a chance with the current assortment of tight fives the stormers included in their squad, moneywise, Jaco is better off with his current employees.
The kind of slow, short service he’ll receive from Conradie will ensure another injury soon.
So why bother? good shopping trip for JW though.
Currently, JwdW is the only viable option for the Boks in June, with AP, BJ not recoverd, De Wall not rated by JW and the Bulls duo not ready at the test level.
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