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	<title>Comments on: Tonderai hangs tough</title>
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		<title>By: stormerwayne</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-2186</link>
		<dc:creator>stormerwayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[habana was sort of underestimated...and got to prove himself, now give chavhanga a chance..i think he has some quality, more than enough nitrous and trojan like defense, pretty good hands too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>habana was sort of underestimated&#8230;and got to prove himself, now give chavhanga a chance..i think he has some quality, more than enough nitrous and trojan like defense, pretty good hands too.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-2172</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ja Broodkop, ek sal sÃƒÂª dat Smith n kak kaptein en nog n kakker speler is.Hy en die afrigter verdien om gejaag te word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ja Broodkop, ek sal sÃƒÂª dat Smith n kak kaptein en nog n kakker speler is.Hy en die afrigter verdien om gejaag te word.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormsaam</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormsaam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stormer,

Stan will also tell you that Kallis, Gibbs, Prince and Smith are all k@k cricket players because they play for Wp. Anyway I do not want to let a tosser spoil my day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormer,</p>
<p>Stan will also tell you that Kallis, Gibbs, Prince and Smith are all k@k cricket players because they play for Wp. Anyway I do not want to let a tosser spoil my day!</p>
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		<title>By: Stormer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Stan maybe I was jumping to conclusions and I it&#039;s just a coincidence that whenever you comment that a player is overrated that it just happens to be a non white guy. That must be it right? Coincidence

Same thing over and over]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Stan maybe I was jumping to conclusions and I it&#8217;s just a coincidence that whenever you comment that a player is overrated that it just happens to be a non white guy. That must be it right? Coincidence</p>
<p>Same thing over and over</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stormsaam,
As jy siek voel, gaan kots en bly daar.Jy en Stormer moet eers die posts mooi lees voor julle my kritiseer. Ek het nie n wit Bulls vleuel se naam genoem nie, maar wel Mametsa.
Zinto, n baie goeie agterlyn. Dit lyk amper soos die een wat met 75 punte verloor het!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormsaam,<br />
As jy siek voel, gaan kots en bly daar.Jy en Stormer moet eers die posts mooi lees voor julle my kritiseer. Ek het nie n wit Bulls vleuel se naam genoem nie, maar wel Mametsa.<br />
Zinto, n baie goeie agterlyn. Dit lyk amper soos die een wat met 75 punte verloor het!</p>
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		<title>By: Zinto</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator>Zinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn imagine this backline:
15. Shandre Frolick
14. Jongi Nokwe
13. Marius Joubert
12. Jean de Villiers
11. Tonderia Chavanga
10. Jaco van der Westhuizen
9. Paul Delport

Ok, I know that Barry is captain, Frolick injured and that Conradie and de Kok is ahead of Delport, but that could be the most feared backline in S14. Does anybody know what&#039;s happening with Shandre Frolick. I believe he is the quickest in that backline?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn imagine this backline:<br />
15. Shandre Frolick<br />
14. Jongi Nokwe<br />
13. Marius Joubert<br />
12. Jean de Villiers<br />
11. Tonderia Chavanga<br />
10. Jaco van der Westhuizen<br />
9. Paul Delport</p>
<p>Ok, I know that Barry is captain, Frolick injured and that Conradie and de Kok is ahead of Delport, but that could be the most feared backline in S14. Does anybody know what&#8217;s happening with Shandre Frolick. I believe he is the quickest in that backline?</p>
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		<title>By: leitz</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>leitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stormsaam, funny how your post is probably more racist than any of Stan&#039;s. But I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t get it, idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormsaam, funny how your post is probably more racist than any of Stan&#8217;s. But I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t get it, idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and I have to agree with Stormsaam. Not about &#039;dutchmen&#039; (uncalled for)

but you do have no idea Stan. Your prejudice blinds your judgement and  appreciation. Leaving you unable to see a really promising talent. Probably one of those that bitched and moaned when Habana got his first call up to the national team. 

Chavanga is a spectacularly fast and elusive runner. The core traits of a good winger that can&#039;t be taught or developed. The rest can. His defence is already solid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I have to agree with Stormsaam. Not about &#8216;dutchmen&#8217; (uncalled for)</p>
<p>but you do have no idea Stan. Your prejudice blinds your judgement and  appreciation. Leaving you unable to see a really promising talent. Probably one of those that bitched and moaned when Habana got his first call up to the national team. </p>
<p>Chavanga is a spectacularly fast and elusive runner. The core traits of a good winger that can&#8217;t be taught or developed. The rest can. His defence is already solid.</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1856</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stormsaam and with that reply you are quit possibly a bigger prick than Tackler LMFAO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormsaam and with that reply you are quit possibly a bigger prick than Tackler LMFAO.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormsaam</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormsaam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stan,

I have to agree with wpw. You are the thickest Dutchman staying in the city of Tswane. Fuck you sicken me to my stomach. You would rather have a white Bull wing playing for the Boks (Morne who we all know is completely useless) than Chavanga.

Remember every god has its day but Dutchmen need to realize than in Sa we have 70 million blacks with 5 million whites. So do not be surprised if by the end of the year Loftus changes to TSWANE Soccer Stadium which the Bulls and Sundowns have to share (if my government pals have a say, this WILL HAPPEN)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>I have to agree with wpw. You are the thickest <acronym title="Keep it clean!">********</acronym> staying in the city of Tswane. <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> you sicken me to my stomach. You would rather have a white Bull wing playing for the Boks (Morne who we all know is completely useless) than Chavanga.</p>
<p>Remember every god has its day but Dutchmen need to realize than in Sa we have 70 million blacks with 5 million whites. So do not be surprised if by the end of the year Loftus changes to TSWANE Soccer Stadium which the Bulls and Sundowns have to share (if my government pals have a say, this WILL HAPPEN)</p>
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		<title>By: PissAnt</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>PissAnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vetkoek,

probably the best post of the lot, it is about seizing opportunities - chavanga may or may not have it - we can debate the issue until christmas again - but it will be up to him, and only him, to prove to friend a foe alike he has what it takes, and for that, he needs to play.

same way roets proved last year we have more than enough cover at fullback, and i said many times before last season roets should not even play vodacom cup, that is how kak he is....

he came out, played brilliant rugga in 2005, and made me eat my words - like vetkoek said, its about taking your chances and proving your critics wrong - he did it, and chavanga needs to do it too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vetkoek,</p>
<p>probably the best post of the lot, it is about seizing opportunities &#8211; chavanga may or may not have it &#8211; we can debate the issue until christmas again &#8211; but it will be up to him, and only him, to prove to friend a foe alike he has what it takes, and for that, he needs to play.</p>
<p>same way roets proved last year we have more than enough cover at fullback, and i said many times before last season roets should not even play vodacom cup, that is how kak he is&#8230;.</p>
<p>he came out, played brilliant rugga in 2005, and made me eat my words &#8211; like vetkoek said, its about taking your chances and proving your critics wrong &#8211; he did it, and chavanga needs to do it too.</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LAZYSHARK Thats why i ask, because i just havent seen it in his game yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAZYSHARK Thats why i ask, because i just havent seen it in his game yet?</p>
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		<title>By: lazyshazystormersboy</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>lazyshazystormersboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wls, you&#039;ve missed alot brah]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wls, you&#8217;ve missed alot brah</p>
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		<title>By: wls</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>wls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where exactly is this pace, hes not as fast as Habana, in the games ive watched hes never done anything remotly &quot;Great&quot; he finishes of what others started from 10 metres away from the try line? Unless i missed something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where exactly is this pace, hes not as fast as Habana, in the games ive watched hes never done anything remotly &#8220;Great&#8221; he finishes of what others started from 10 metres away from the try line? Unless i missed something?</p>
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		<title>By: lazyshazystormersboy</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1845</link>
		<dc:creator>lazyshazystormersboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally rate Chavhanga above Benjamin. I&#039;m a Boks/Stormers/WP supporter living in NZ and can say that Chavhanga is rated quite highly here after he made a mockery out of Joe Rokocoko in 04. Jonghi and Tondi together for the Stormers will create alot of trouble for the opposition and I think that Chavhanga should partner Habana on the wing for the Boks. He may have yet to prove himself but we have seen that he is able to become a great winger, glimpses which we saw in the 2004 Super 12. Also, even though Uruguay aren&#039;t the best team going around, if I remember correctly, Tonderai pulled off the 2 best tackles in that game and showed that his defence can be as good as his attack and we all know how good that is. With no more injuries and some time he can become a REALLY good wing and someone who will be remembered in the future. 

........ and there is nothing wrong with his size, except for one of his legs being shorter than the other which is probably causing these injuries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally rate Chavhanga above Benjamin. I&#8217;m a Boks/Stormers/WP supporter living in NZ and can say that Chavhanga is rated quite highly here after he made a mockery out of Joe Rokocoko in 04. Jonghi and Tondi together for the Stormers will create alot of trouble for the opposition and I think that Chavhanga should partner Habana on the wing for the Boks. He may have yet to prove himself but we have seen that he is able to become a great winger, glimpses which we saw in the 2004 Super 12. Also, even though Uruguay aren&#8217;t the best team going around, if I remember correctly, Tonderai pulled off the 2 best tackles in that game and showed that his defence can be as good as his attack and we all know how good that is. With no more injuries and some time he can become a REALLY good wing and someone who will be remembered in the future. </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;.. and there is nothing wrong with his size, except for one of his legs being shorter than the other which is probably causing these injuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toderai Chavhanga is fast, but is that his only attribute? we have seen many speed merchants before, Jaco Reinach in 1986 was the Boks No.14 and SA 400m record holder too, does anyone still remember him?
Pieter Hendrick ditto.
There is a glut of talant coming through in SA Rugby and most will not make it to the Super14 level, now, the question is: has Chavhanga received appearances far more than his Super12 performances merit?!
We probably won&#039;t get an answer for it though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toderai Chavhanga is fast, but is that his only attribute? we have seen many speed merchants before, Jaco Reinach in 1986 was the Boks No.14 and SA 400m record holder too, does anyone still remember him?<br />
Pieter Hendrick ditto.<br />
There is a glut of talant coming through in SA Rugby and most will not make it to the Super14 level, now, the question is: has Chavhanga received appearances far more than his Super12 performances merit?!<br />
We probably won&#8217;t get an answer for it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaffie
I agree re Benjamin. Great talent. Far better than Nokwe, although Nokwe is good. Could even become a legend one day IMHO...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaffie<br />
I agree re Benjamin. Great talent. Far better than Nokwe, although Nokwe is good. Could even become a legend one day IMHO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aapseun,
Ek het jou nie beledig nie. Ek wel genoem dat jy nie beledigings moet spaar voordat jyself n gat van jouself maak.
Praat met my rugby of los dit. So maklik soos dit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aapseun,<br />
Ek het jou nie beledig nie. Ek wel genoem dat jy nie beledigings moet spaar voordat jyself n gat van jouself maak.<br />
Praat met my rugby of los dit. So maklik soos dit.</p>
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		<title>By: munkiboi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>munkiboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stan the fact you&#039;ve reverted to insulting me, rather than arguing the point you so boldly made really says it all.

bulk can be added.  height cannot be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan the fact you&#8217;ve reverted to insulting me, rather than arguing the point you so boldly made really says it all.</p>
<p>bulk can be added.  height cannot be.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/01/26/tonderai-hangs-tough/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers, have a good one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, have a good one.</p>
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