The Lion shunned by Turner’s pride
31 Jan 2006
The Golden Lions have turned their back on Brian van Rooyen, pledging not to support him in the upcoming Saru presidential election.
In an official release, CEO Andy Turner made the following statement:
“At the Special Executive Committee Meeting of the Golden Lions Rugby Union, dated 30 January 2006, the Executive Committee has decided not to support Brian van Rooyen in the upcoming SA Rugby elections as President.
“The Golden Lions Rugby Union Executive Committee will decide which candidate to support as soon as the candidates list is available for the different positions.”
Van Rooyen remains bullish about his prospects of re-election.
75 Comments
31 Jan 2006, 11:51 am
so it starts.
good for you turner – you impress me more and more each day.
31 Jan 2006, 11:52 am
this is a good start
31 Jan 2006, 11:56 am
Cant Turner run, or is that the catch to them going against BVR?
31 Jan 2006, 12:04 pm
Down with the Clown
Cheers
31 Jan 2006, 12:10 pm
Heheheh
Start wearing nice white hankeys in your pocket with a pack of Lexingtons BVR.
You’re gonna need a last smoke and a blindfold soon.
Good move Andy!
A good idea for SA Rugby as a whole.
Now we’ll see who comes out the woodwork.
The other point is let’s see the other unions come out and exdpress exactly who they’re going to support.
They may have a paper team, but the Lions are setting an example for transparency here.
Let’s hear it WP, Sharks (obviously behind Oregon already), Bulls, Spears, Cheetahs and the small unions?
Is there a BVR supporting union out there seeing as BVR’s support base and home union have abandoned him now?
31 Jan 2006, 12:10 pm
Heheheh Methos
A BETTER GAME FOR ALL
31 Jan 2006, 12:18 pm
Way to go, the Gumboots Brigade.
Vinnige Vingers v Rooyen, do the honourable thing and commit Hara Kiri. I am willing to supply a panga and some Doom to keep the raoches and blowflies away.This will have to happen under supervision otherwise the panga will either get stolen or broken.
31 Jan 2006, 12:19 pm
Give Brian Van Rooyen a warning, necklace him with a bicycle tyre. If he doesn’t quit then give him the real thing.
Cheers
31 Jan 2006, 12:21 pm
Methos,
n Trekkertyre gevul met jetfuel, as jy my vra!
31 Jan 2006, 12:22 pm
Nog beter, om dit polities korrek te hou, gee hom vir Winnie. Sy sal die kak uit hom uit Stompie!
31 Jan 2006, 12:38 pm
Unfortunately i think the smaller unions like falcons,northern fs,boland border etc will still support brian because they want to be part of the cc lets hope they do the right thing and sack him.
31 Jan 2006, 12:44 pm
redox,
his supporters in the smaller unions are already being replaced, griquas, EP, SWD (?) etc.
and he pleads ignorance – what a twat.
31 Jan 2006, 12:45 pm
think BvR’s days are numbered, lets get a more quick-witted bloke in charge, perhaps someone thats media savvy.
Has Keo submitted his CV?
31 Jan 2006, 12:49 pm
cab,
Die bergdwerg?
31 Jan 2006, 12:49 pm
IG & Keo – BVR is a trustee for the Dan Quede trust… What happens if he bites the bullet?
By the way what is happening with that trust?? It would be nice to have a update!!!
Thanks Bigg
31 Jan 2006, 12:55 pm
BVR a trustee???????
hehehe
no wonder we dont hear anything…
i did not know that.
31 Jan 2006, 12:56 pm
SA 82 after 15, smith and boeta are klapping the lankans
31 Jan 2006, 12:59 pm
I say, Do not vote for anybody who is set up by Maarkgraaf or Luyt. Those two ******** still think of themselves as the C.E.O’s of SA rugby and their shadows run long.
Remember, It was them who set Van Rooyen up in the first place. Watch exactly who these two twats support. The boil has not yet been lanced.
Turner does not speak for himself. The powers that be will rid themselves of their failed transformation puppet, They will then manipulate their constituency into another disasterous appointment.
The plot thickens.
31 Jan 2006, 13:02 pm
Bigg…no idea, the trust itself is still in existence earning interest ! Keo has been too busy and all it really needs is a bit of marketing and a push
31 Jan 2006, 13:04 pm
The Luyt / Markgraaff story is bullshit!!!
They never said they supported Hoskins.
31 Jan 2006, 13:10 pm
Luyt has my full support. Regardless of his personality, under his leadership we won a WC and he has proven himself as a rugbyman and a businessman.He is a selfmade rich man and has no desire to enrich himself with our money.He will also not take nonsense from the thiefs, embezzlers and incompetent managers like fat Artrob Petersen.
31 Jan 2006, 13:11 pm
Lastly, go read Luyts book and then decide for yourselves.
31 Jan 2006, 13:13 pm
Ig – Maybe a golf day in Cape Town?? You guys should seriously think about that. I know that most of the muppits living in Cape Town will play… Could be good fun – love to play Keo…
31 Jan 2006, 13:16 pm
i agree with rednik and would be very retiscent to support anyone either of those two put forward.
SA rugby would be better served with a more copetent president than BvR, but i personally think the influence of tyrants like Luyt and Markgraft is the worst thing possible. At least they are gone.
31 Jan 2006, 13:17 pm
If i had to vote it will go to…..drom roll…..(Ali Bacher)
31 Jan 2006, 13:19 pm
Great news, the greatest province in the history of SA rugby had to come out first and say it. Now the oteher provinces can also join in. Down the clown!!!
31 Jan 2006, 13:19 pm
Would like to see other unions follow suit
31 Jan 2006, 13:20 pm
bigg….i think the problem is not too much on the marketing side, but more the orginisation side – its a huge amount of admin – and time constraints at present are hampering the trust – i will kick Keo’s *** the first time he mentions he can chill and get it going….but the diea of a golf day is noted – its is a good one !
31 Jan 2006, 13:20 pm
cab,
i would have agreed with you about 6 months ago, but like stan said, go read luyt’s book and go google his name – the guy is a businessman and a rugby man combined, much like morne dup – maybe not as forcefull.
as for markie’s, i am undecided to be honest.
he had one massive brainfart when he was coach and the subsequent recorded telephone conversation – and should really never been allowed back into rugby.
as for teh recent allegations and his subsequent resignation, do you actually realise that he was the ONLY innocent guy involved in the brand/heunis report where all BVR’s shady dealings was exposed, and the basis of the investigation into affairs in SA rugby??????
makes you wonder about a couple of things.
31 Jan 2006, 13:24 pm
I can respect that. Maybe the Lions think a new chief can save them from being relegated in the S14.
31 Jan 2006, 13:26 pm
Blueblood
Howzit pel, still camping outside Kaplan’s house???? Jy weet natuurlik hy het nie die CC beker nie, Vrystaat het dit…
31 Jan 2006, 13:26 pm
maybe kaplan will run for chief or SARU
31 Jan 2006, 13:27 pm
hehehehe!
31 Jan 2006, 13:27 pm
now there is a guy that calls things as he sees it if ever i saw one.
31 Jan 2006, 13:27 pm
PA, but will he have the Bulls’ support?
31 Jan 2006, 13:27 pm
Does anybody know what is happening about this so-called Rainbow Cup?? I bet Saffa does not….
31 Jan 2006, 13:27 pm
I am not so sure Lyut is the man….in fact i am pretty certain. Personally i think we should be looking outside of rugby…..ALi is a good start
31 Jan 2006, 13:29 pm
agree ig,
luyt wont come back though – his health is not too good if i remember correctly.
bacher is a good start.
31 Jan 2006, 13:30 pm
redcard,
well at least he calls a spade a spade……….and he uses it to burry bullie dung….
at least we wont have any more ‘bull’**** in SARU….
31 Jan 2006, 13:30 pm
Excuse me, what job should Bacher get??? President? If so what about Du Plessis?
31 Jan 2006, 13:31 pm
Sa now 1/122
31 Jan 2006, 13:31 pm
CEO grrr……..
31 Jan 2006, 13:32 pm
IG – since it is for charity i am more than willing to help out where I can on a voluntarily basis. I arrange golf tours for a living so I know the industry well.. Let me know when you guys decide!
31 Jan 2006, 13:34 pm
I’s there use of a private jet if you are CEO of SARU?? If so I would think about it. If not I’m taking the Deputy president of SA’s job. That one has excellent perks!!! Then you guys can pay for my holiday!
31 Jan 2006, 13:35 pm
Hobo
What was Sri Lanka’s score??
31 Jan 2006, 13:37 pm
Can anyone remember why Luyt put a life long ban on the Hyena at Ellispark?
31 Jan 2006, 13:40 pm
Grrr…
222 all out
Cheers
31 Jan 2006, 13:41 pm
222 Grrr
31 Jan 2006, 13:41 pm
Overs left??
31 Jan 2006, 13:43 pm
Hey
The work is not done by th Pres
The Pres appoints the people who do the job
I agree on the wait and see sentiment on Hoskins
I agree that there is no public place for markgraaf & Luyt- but if they play a role behind the scenes- like everyone is doing- it is their right.
Point is SARU needs proper corperate goals and then the proper people to realise those goals
So it seems that Hoskins wants the job and that other influential people also wants him to take the Job
Hopefully he will get both Morne & Ali to be involved- If Francios Pienaar is above board- make him CEO- just ban him from making more tjjips ads- because they are stupid-
Time will tell if we will get A BETTER GAME FOR ALL this time around
but it cannot be done soon enough
come 23/2 come soon… well just give us time to enjoy 10/2
31 Jan 2006, 13:44 pm
135/1
31 Jan 2006, 13:44 pm
Need 87 off 23 overs (13 if we want the BP)
31 Jan 2006, 13:57 pm
PA,
yes, its true, it would be fairer to read his version of events first, but IMO neither of those guys are the answer. I got the impression that every thing they were involved with, first and foremost, was beneficial to them or their strategically positioned acolites.
The new SA calls for a very different type of person with different priorities and an open and transparent management style. Louis Luyt was probably a good businesman, i.e. in ter,s of making money in SA, but rugby in SA (or any country) is not about money-making or the hording and wielding of power.
Not a big fan of Bacher either. I’d have a rugby chap and straight-talker like Morne du Plessis teamed up with Mike Stofile (hope i’ve got the guy that makes sensbile comments on transformation). The finances should be run and advised by independent accounting professionals, not pseduo-businessmen with their own interests that take the lions share.
For example, look at the TV rights and advertising deals, massive money is involved, but i’m willing to bet that huge bonuses are still funnelled off by our SA “businessmen” involved in these deals, which could instead be used for transformation and resources, where it is really needed. these deals are not rocket science.
31 Jan 2006, 14:02 pm
People like Stan always say they don’t want politics in Rugby. But now he want Luyt, who, the last time I checked, had his own political party…… I wonder.
31 Jan 2006, 14:04 pm
cab
Bacher would at least be honest. He’s a proven and competent administrator. Not like the clown that is in power now.
Cheers
31 Jan 2006, 14:07 pm
Why the insistence of having YET ANOTHER political animal like Bacher in there? To be honest, I dont see massive transformation or performance in our cricket side either. They have not revolutionised the game – just gone on business as usual. Any old doos can do that -keep things running as they always were…
In practical terms, I’d rather have strife in teh administration, since that way they keep each other on their toes, and nobody does anything bad for fear of being bust. Also that way they are too damn busy fighting to get involved in the game. They say that the Italian economy is so strong because there has been a change of government on average more than once a year since WW2 – they have never been in pwer long enough to make policies at all. Makes you think…
31 Jan 2006, 14:08 pm
cab,
there is an article i want you to read.
mail me p_i_ant@yahoo.com
31 Jan 2006, 14:08 pm
162/2
31 Jan 2006, 14:13 pm
164/3
31 Jan 2006, 14:15 pm
PA
mail it to me as well
pls
31 Jan 2006, 14:16 pm
BvR prob has so much bad Karma coming his way its no wonder. He promised so much to the smaller unions, now no wonder the big unions will turn!!!
Karma always comes home to roost!!!
31 Jan 2006, 14:18 pm
173/3 off 34.1 overs.
31 Jan 2006, 14:19 pm
BVR – it’s time to practice what you preach – TRANSFORMATION – Transform yourself into an ex -president or a ***** whichever you prefer
31 Jan 2006, 14:32 pm
methos,
dont know about Bacher, maybe you are correct, but another one that leaves something to be desired.
wicked weasel,
amusing comment about politicians and the italian economy. Most of them are as you insinuate a complete waste of time. For those reasons, i’d rather have someone with the right motives.
Hell, it cant be that hard. President Wanted: motivated to develop SA rugby above all else, a decent communicator, honest, intelligent, sensible and impartisan.
PA,
will do old chap.
31 Jan 2006, 14:32 pm
184/4 32.2
31 Jan 2006, 14:39 pm
cab you got mail
at least the cricket match is in the bag
31 Jan 2006, 14:40 pm
199/5 (40.0 ov) South Africa require another 23 runs with 5 wickets and 60 balls remaining
31 Jan 2006, 14:42 pm
PA
Please stop, you know what happens when you talk. I blame you for getting AP arrested!! Don’t jinks those Proteas, if there is somebody that can still lose this game it’s them…
31 Jan 2006, 14:45 pm
if we win, do we get through to the final?
i reckon we have the beating of those aussies, our top order need to find some form tho and why is boeta dippennaar still being selected?
31 Jan 2006, 14:45 pm
hehehe grr….
even kaplan cant change the course of this match now…
31 Jan 2006, 14:46 pm
cab, boeta scored 80 odd at almost a run a ball.
31 Jan 2006, 14:55 pm
cab,
Go check Boetas stats in the last few games that he has played.We need a captain and AB de Villiers as the other opener.
31 Jan 2006, 14:56 pm
Cab
And hit 3 sixes and 7 fours.
87 Runs at 94 balls
Someone told Boeta to bat faster…
Cheers
31 Jan 2006, 15:02 pm
PA,
right, i stand corrected, keep that little gem Boeta exactly where he is, in fact promote him.
As for the article, just read it, not bad and i agree that a mindset change is probably needed, but it strikes me that what is even more fundamental than quotas and all the usual ****** cliches, is the need for money generated by the sport to be developed on the sport itself.
I think there was alot of truth to what Jake White said, which was that if every S12 coach was offered a million rand to develop a number of black players to S12 standard, he would have far more of these players to select from at bok lelvel then whatever was previously contemplated.
31 Jan 2006, 15:22 pm
too true cab
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