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	<title>Comments on: Cats to be relegated, say Kiwis</title>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-4015</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tickler. You really should check your facts before you shout your fat mouth off (you remind me so much of wpw in that respect). Your post should read:

1998 log: Canterbury 2nd place (winning finalists).

The point is that the Crusaders pulled themselves up from humble beginnings to become the most successful S12 team. This is the model that the Bulls could emulate. You are merely attempting to argue semantics.

And remember that the Bulls dismembered last years winners (I&#039;ll help you Tickles - the Crusaders) by 35-20 and your hero McCaw was totally smashed by the Bulls&#039; impact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tickler. You really should check your facts before you shout your fat mouth off (you remind me so much of wpw in that respect). Your post should read:</p>
<p>1998 log: Canterbury 2nd place (winning finalists).</p>
<p>The point is that the Crusaders pulled themselves up from humble beginnings to become the most successful S12 team. This is the model that the Bulls could emulate. You are merely attempting to argue semantics.</p>
<p>And remember that the Bulls dismembered last years winners (I&#8217;ll help you Tickles &#8211; the Crusaders) by 35-20 and your hero McCaw was totally smashed by the Bulls&#8217; impact.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the Bulls team that won their first EVER S12 victory over the Stormers in 2005 with an emphatic 75-14 were the same Bulls team who were absolutely thrashed 23-0 in Dunedin and comprehensively outmuscled in the tight phases by what really was a pretty piss-poor Otago Highlanders team!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Bulls team that won their first EVER S12 victory over the Stormers in 2005 with an emphatic 75-14 were the same Bulls team who were absolutely thrashed 23-0 in Dunedin and comprehensively outmuscled in the tight phases by what really was a pretty piss-poor Otago Highlanders team!</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1996 log: Canterbury 12th place
1997 log: Canterbury 6th place
1998 log: Canterbury 1st place

The Cantabs didn&#039;t take out a long-term lease on the cellar like the Bulls did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1996 log: Canterbury 12th place<br />
1997 log: Canterbury 6th place<br />
1998 log: Canterbury 1st place</p>
<p>The Cantabs didn&#8217;t take out a long-term lease on the cellar like the Bulls did.</p>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3901</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[parisian,
It isn&#039;t out of the question that the Bulls could be relegated. Sure it&#039;s gonna be tough. That&#039;s why we watch rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parisian,<br />
It isn&#8217;t out of the question that the Bulls could be relegated. Sure it&#8217;s gonna be tough. That&#8217;s why we watch rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: tadcaster</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>tadcaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gotta love the way the South Africans set themselves up to fail - teams which have 7 home matches (Stormers, Bulls, Cheetahs) have only 4 in Aus/NZ, while those with only 6 at home (Sharks, Cats) have 5 in Australasia - go figure. Cats for the drop and a forced marriage with the Bulls in 07 or 08. Does the relegated team get a crack at rejoining in 2008 by playing a promotion/relegation match against the worst SA team in 2007 (excluding the Spears) or is it 2008?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gotta love the way the South Africans set themselves up to fail &#8211; teams which have 7 home matches (Stormers, Bulls, Cheetahs) have only 4 in Aus/NZ, while those with only 6 at home (Sharks, Cats) have 5 in Australasia &#8211; go figure. Cats for the drop and a forced marriage with the Bulls in 07 or 08. Does the relegated team get a crack at rejoining in 2008 by playing a promotion/relegation match against the worst SA team in 2007 (excluding the Spears) or is it 2008?</p>
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		<title>By: parisian</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3811</link>
		<dc:creator>parisian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New competition, new year...stop living on the glory of reaching the semi&#039;s last year Bulls. With Leonard gone and 3 other captains on the mend...I predict a MUCH tougher comp for the blue-boys. So all this &quot;form-team&quot; nonsense should stop before someone&#039;s ego gets hurt!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New competition, new year&#8230;stop living on the glory of reaching the semi&#8217;s last year Bulls. With Leonard gone and 3 other captains on the mend&#8230;I predict a MUCH tougher comp for the blue-boys. So all this &#8220;form-team&#8221; nonsense should stop before someone&#8217;s ego gets hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: Grrrr....I'm a Lion!</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrrr....I'm a Lion!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3752</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wpw, You are an ignorant moron! Next time think first before you shoot your mouth off so fast. Basic research would have enlightened you:

1996 log: Canterbury 12th place 
1997 log: Canterbury 6th place 

Remember if you finish less than fourth then it is not possible to win the title dummy. So, before &#039;98 the Crusaders never had any silverware in the S12 either.

Also the Stormers only played in 9 Super 12 tournaments as they were relegated in &#039;97.

You really should try to make sure of your facts before you post wpw.

I thank you for reminding me of the magnificent 75-14 whipping that the Stormpies got from the Bulls, smashing the Stormers&#039; boast that we couldn&#039;t beat them in the S12. I am so happy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wpw, You are an ignorant moron! Next time think first before you shoot your mouth off so fast. Basic research would have enlightened you:</p>
<p>1996 log: Canterbury 12th place<br />
1997 log: Canterbury 6th place </p>
<p>Remember if you finish less than fourth then it is not possible to win the title dummy. So, before &#8217;98 the Crusaders never had any silverware in the S12 either.</p>
<p>Also the Stormers only played in 9 Super 12 tournaments as they were relegated in &#8217;97.</p>
<p>You really should try to make sure of your facts before you post wpw.</p>
<p>I thank you for reminding me of the magnificent 75-14 whipping that the Stormpies got from the Bulls, smashing the Stormers&#8217; boast that we couldn&#8217;t beat them in the S12. I am so happy!</p>
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		<title>By: wooden spoon</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3751</link>
		<dc:creator>wooden spoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wpw - first things first - I&#039;m a sharks supporter, and don&#039;t particularly like the Bulls or the Stormers.

But I think I should draw to your attention the post at 2.33pm on the &quot;Cats hope to claw...&quot; thread. Now there&#039;s one overconfident Stormers supporter!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wpw &#8211; first things first &#8211; I&#8217;m a sharks supporter, and don&#8217;t particularly like the Bulls or the Stormers.</p>
<p>But I think I should draw to your attention the post at 2.33pm on the &#8220;Cats hope to claw&#8230;&#8221; thread. Now there&#8217;s one overconfident Stormers supporter!</p>
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		<title>By: wpw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3725</link>
		<dc:creator>wpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blouskop, you have got to be the thickest bulls supporter out there. To compare yourself with the Crusaders is laughable. They were never the bottom dwellers like you were, yes they might have started off losing a few games and being bottom after a few games and then going on to win the title. So when did the bulls go on to win the S12?

None of the stormers supporters i know of are saying we are the best or we will win. Unlike you we are being realistic and confident but not too over confident.

Remember where your arrogance got you in last yr&#039;s CC Final? 

P.S. Yes, you beat us 75-14 last yr but it was the 1st time you beat us in the S12, in 10 freakin yrs. Jislike but you are thick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouskop, you have got to be the thickest bulls supporter out there. To compare yourself with the Crusaders is laughable. They were never the bottom dwellers like you were, yes they might have started off losing a few games and being bottom after a few games and then going on to win the title. So when did the bulls go on to win the S12?</p>
<p>None of the stormers supporters i know of are saying we are the best or we will win. Unlike you we are being realistic and confident but not too over confident.</p>
<p>Remember where your arrogance got you in last yr&#8217;s CC Final? </p>
<p>P.S. Yes, you beat us 75-14 last yr but it was the 1st time you beat us in the S12, in 10 freakin yrs. Jislike but you are thick!</p>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3692</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Redox,
And the Stormpies and all the other S12 franchises have how many trophies?

&quot;To be a winner u actually need to win something&quot;. Ummmm  does 75-14 count?

I believe that the Bulls have the firepower to win the S14. I came to this conclusion after a thorough analysis. Why does this offend you Redox and wpw? Is it evidence of psychosis or simply your overwheming fear that they just might win?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redox,<br />
And the Stormpies and all the other S12 franchises have how many trophies?</p>
<p>&#8220;To be a winner u actually need to win something&#8221;. Ummmm  does 75-14 count?</p>
<p>I believe that the Bulls have the firepower to win the S14. I came to this conclusion after a thorough analysis. Why does this offend you Redox and wpw? Is it evidence of psychosis or simply your overwheming fear that they just might win?</p>
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		<title>By: GCC</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3691</link>
		<dc:creator>GCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hate to agree with kevin w (cheetah hater), but without pretorius the cats will struggle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hate to agree with kevin w (cheetah hater), but without pretorius the cats will struggle.</p>
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		<title>By: wooden spoon</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>wooden spoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Redox - lets not forget, Canterbury didnt win the NPC either. Bulls over the last couple of years have developed a winning culture (in the S12 at home at least!) Lets just admit it - the Bulls have the best chance of reaching the play offs.

Saying that, as I&#039;ve said before, any SA side including the bulls could get relegated this year. My money&#039;s on the Cats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redox &#8211; lets not forget, Canterbury didnt win the NPC either. Bulls over the last couple of years have developed a winning culture (in the S12 at home at least!) Lets just admit it &#8211; the Bulls have the best chance of reaching the play offs.</p>
<p>Saying that, as I&#8217;ve said before, any SA side including the bulls could get relegated this year. My money&#8217;s on the Cats.</p>
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		<title>By: Redox</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator>Redox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blouskop  

Yes lets not get nostalgic, How many trophies do the bulls have at the moments lets count um...... zero so comparing the bulls to the crusaders is a bit rich. P.S. To be a winner u actually need to win something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouskop  </p>
<p>Yes lets not get nostalgic, How many trophies do the bulls have at the moments lets count um&#8230;&#8230; zero so comparing the bulls to the crusaders is a bit rich. P.S. To be a winner u actually need to win something.</p>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wpw, 
Sorry to interrupt your nostalgia, but lets revert to the present where the Bulls are the far superior to the Stormpies. 75-14 rings a bell. Remember the Crusaders also used to be basement dwellers. They transformed into winners. Just like the Bulls are doing right now.

You call yourself a realist? You are already resigned to losing (aka loser).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wpw,<br />
Sorry to interrupt your nostalgia, but lets revert to the present where the Bulls are the far superior to the Stormpies. 75-14 rings a bell. Remember the Crusaders also used to be basement dwellers. They transformed into winners. Just like the Bulls are doing right now.</p>
<p>You call yourself a realist? You are already resigned to losing (aka loser).</p>
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		<title>By: wpw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>wpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blouskop, loser? If i remember correctly you guys were the perenial basement dwellers so dont tell me about losers... i am being realistic, until the Stormers ger a decent 10, 15 and a few more props, will they be average and maybe just maybe they will surprise a few ppl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouskop, loser? If i remember correctly you guys were the perenial basement dwellers so dont tell me about losers&#8230; i am being realistic, until the Stormers ger a decent 10, 15 and a few more props, will they be average and maybe just maybe they will surprise a few ppl.</p>
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		<title>By: blouskop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>blouskop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wpw,
No I&#039;m blouskop. Are you Tackler?

What is the use of being a rugby supporter if one cannot imagine victory?

I see the Stormpies are at 40/1 - do you think they&#039;ll make the semis? Do you dare to dream wpw? Or are you a defeatist? 

Are you a loser, just like the Stormpies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wpw,<br />
No I&#8217;m blouskop. Are you Tackler?</p>
<p>What is the use of being a rugby supporter if one cannot imagine victory?</p>
<p>I see the Stormpies are at 40/1 &#8211; do you think they&#8217;ll make the semis? Do you dare to dream wpw? Or are you a defeatist? </p>
<p>Are you a loser, just like the Stormpies?</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3606</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[unfortunately, i think this ominous prediction for the cats might be spot on, the cats have no real depth, their defense is weak and their pack is lacking a hard edge.

If their are no injuries (which is already not the case) and they acquired a strong ball carrier in the loose forwards, and something a bit more special on the other wing, maybe a different story, but its not going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately, i think this ominous prediction for the cats might be spot on, the cats have no real depth, their defense is weak and their pack is lacking a hard edge.</p>
<p>If their are no injuries (which is already not the case) and they acquired a strong ball carrier in the loose forwards, and something a bit more special on the other wing, maybe a different story, but its not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: wpw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3597</link>
		<dc:creator>wpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blouskop, now i know you are just as nuts and loony as blueblood. Are you the same person perhaps?

The Bulls will NOT win the S14, they are not consistent enough. They can hardly win away from home, what makes you think they will get a home semi... LMAO

Bulls to win the S14! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

p.s. Is it 1st April today. bwahahahahahahhaha]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blouskop, now i know you are just as nuts and loony as blueblood. Are you the same person perhaps?</p>
<p>The Bulls will NOT win the S14, they are not consistent enough. They can hardly win away from home, what makes you think they will get a home semi&#8230; LMAO</p>
<p>Bulls to win the S14! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>p.s. Is it 1st April today. bwahahahahahahhaha</p>
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		<title>By: CoffeeshopBok;-)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/01/cats-to-be-relegated-say-kiwis/#comment-3580</link>
		<dc:creator>CoffeeshopBok;-)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It amazes me that people are still after all this time reacting to Tacklers exact same ramblings that he has been spewing from the start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me that people are still after all this time reacting to Tacklers exact same ramblings that he has been spewing from the start.</p>
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