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		<title>By: Delek</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5720</link>
		<dc:creator>Delek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cab is that why Neil Back excelled at Twickenham for almost a decade??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cab is that why Neil Back excelled at Twickenham for almost a decade??</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5422</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes, all_stormers, agree 

Think the all blacks are still the most powerful pack both home and away. 

the french and boks are capable of also fielding very physical packs, but seem to prefer more skillfull backs like JvN, Smith, Nyanga and Remy Martin as oppose to the more physical backrowers fielded by the english. Also we prefer to opt for an out-and-out lineout specialist in big Vic.

For twickers, i&#039;d be tempted to fight fire with fire, it will be boring, but a backrow of 6. Burger 7. Rossouw/AJ and 8. Cronje must be considered.  the light stuff does not work in those stodgy, heavy wet conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, all_stormers, agree </p>
<p>Think the all blacks are still the most powerful pack both home and away. </p>
<p>the french and boks are capable of also fielding very physical packs, but seem to prefer more skillfull backs like JvN, Smith, Nyanga and Remy Martin as oppose to the more physical backrowers fielded by the english. Also we prefer to opt for an out-and-out lineout specialist in big Vic.</p>
<p>For twickers, i&#8217;d be tempted to fight fire with fire, it will be boring, but a backrow of 6. Burger 7. Rossouw/AJ and 8. Cronje must be considered.  the light stuff does not work in those stodgy, heavy wet conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: all_stormers</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5360</link>
		<dc:creator>all_stormers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cab,

don&#039;t think Poms have the most powerful pack - they are a dirty pack that do a lot &#039;off the ball&#039; play. They tend to intimidate rather than play. 

A packs go think Boks and AB have the most powerful packs - however that does not mean you will win the game as Scotland showed in there win against France. Scotland were outplayed in 2nd half but they had done the damage in the first half that made the difference. 

For this reason I think that the Stormers will also do well in the Super 14 without having a pack that will try and out muscle all otehr packs. If things click for them  they will be in top 4.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cab,</p>
<p>don&#8217;t think Poms have the most powerful pack &#8211; they are a dirty pack that do a lot &#8216;off the ball&#8217; play. They tend to intimidate rather than play. </p>
<p>A packs go think Boks and AB have the most powerful packs &#8211; however that does not mean you will win the game as Scotland showed in there win against France. Scotland were outplayed in 2nd half but they had done the damage in the first half that made the difference. </p>
<p>For this reason I think that the Stormers will also do well in the Super 14 without having a pack that will try and out muscle all otehr packs. If things click for them  they will be in top 4.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5356</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a very sad day when we have to concede that the poms have the most powerful pack in world rugby.

wtf is going on?  I will hold off such abominations until seeing the england scrum tested at the proper home of world rugby, Ellis Park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a very sad day when we have to concede that the poms have the most powerful pack in world rugby.</p>
<p>wtf is going on?  I will hold off such abominations until seeing the england scrum tested at the proper home of world rugby, Ellis Park.</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5355</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England will be formidable come world cup time. The BOKS will have to take them on at their own game. The English backs are big and powerful. We can&#039;t play them with the likes of Paulse. We need to match them with 90 kg plus players. I find the Tr-Nations a bit of a farce now. Instead of increasing it they should have decreased it nad brought in the Pumas and the Island team. Then if the BOKS only play the ALL Blacks once, it will mean much more (home or away)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England will be formidable come world cup time. The BOKS will have to take them on at their own game. The English backs are big and powerful. We can&#8217;t play them with the likes of Paulse. We need to match them with 90 kg plus players. I find the Tr-Nations a bit of a farce now. Instead of increasing it they should have decreased it nad brought in the Pumas and the Island team. Then if the BOKS only play the ALL Blacks once, it will mean much more (home or away)</p>
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		<title>By: bomskok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5338</link>
		<dc:creator>bomskok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ig - I thought that it would be SAR(F)U dancing around cash and in the process give them Poms a huge confidence boost when they play the Boks!  There are bloody players in that team that doesnt know the feeling of losing to the Boks - a damn shame!

Very forward thinking, our administrators!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ig &#8211; I thought that it would be SAR(F)U dancing around cash and in the process give them Poms a huge confidence boost when they play the Boks!  There are bloody players in that team that doesnt know the feeling of losing to the Boks &#8211; a damn shame!</p>
<p>Very forward thinking, our administrators!</p>
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		<title>By: snoop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5336</link>
		<dc:creator>snoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About FUCKING TIME IG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*******</acronym> TIME IG</p>
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		<title>By: Ig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bomskok - the adminstrators sold us down the river - because the POMs offered really good cash to have play them there at the end of each year.....we play them home in the next two years - two tests away, two at home !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bomskok &#8211; the adminstrators sold us down the river &#8211; because the POMs offered really good cash to have play them there at the end of each year&#8230;..we play them home in the next two years &#8211; two tests away, two at home !</p>
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		<title>By: bomskok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5291</link>
		<dc:creator>bomskok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please please please!

Can someone please inform me as to why the Poms havent played a SINGLE game in SA since 2000?  When they play us next in 2007, it would have been 7 years?  Who arranges the playing schedules that the head to head home game count so favours the Poms?

They have been whipping us like they do with most teams at Twickers for the last 6 years and its about time we give them gas at Ellis Park!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please please please!</p>
<p>Can someone please inform me as to why the Poms havent played a SINGLE game in SA since 2000?  When they play us next in 2007, it would have been 7 years?  Who arranges the playing schedules that the head to head home game count so favours the Poms?</p>
<p>They have been whipping us like they do with most teams at Twickers for the last 6 years and its about time we give them gas at Ellis Park!</p>
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		<title>By: munkiboi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5286</link>
		<dc:creator>munkiboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derek - too true.  And what happeneded the last time we played against England in Paris?  If memory serves they went into that match as favorites....

The fact is, if you can withstand Englands forward onslaught, and keep your discipline, then you can stop them easily.  The thing is they are the true juggernaut (forget the bulls) and apply relentless pressure.  Playing england is like getting the life squeezed out of you by a python.  I went to twickers on Saturday and it was one of the most tedious and boring matches I have seen in my life.  Perfect for English fans though...  terrible for selling the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek &#8211; too true.  And what happeneded the last time we played against England in Paris?  If memory serves they went into that match as favorites&#8230;.</p>
<p>The fact is, if you can withstand Englands forward onslaught, and keep your discipline, then you can stop them easily.  The thing is they are the true juggernaut (forget the bulls) and apply relentless pressure.  Playing england is like getting the life squeezed out of you by a python.  I went to twickers on Saturday and it was one of the most tedious and boring matches I have seen in my life.  Perfect for English fans though&#8230;  terrible for selling the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Noble</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keo, I note your comment:
&quot;The Boks play the Poms in the pool stages of the 2007 World Cup and French conditions wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be much different to that of Twickenham.&quot;

This is a widely held view, but it is totally wrong. The game against the Poms is on Sep 14 2007 in Paris. That is virtually late summer, the conditions are very different to London in late November.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keo, I note your comment:<br />
&#8220;The Boks play the Poms in the pool stages of the 2007 World Cup and French conditions wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be much different to that of Twickenham.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a widely held view, but it is totally wrong. The game against the Poms is on Sep 14 2007 in Paris. That is virtually late summer, the conditions are very different to London in late November.</p>
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		<title>By: munkiboi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5183</link>
		<dc:creator>munkiboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sure england are coming to SA in our autumn 2007.  6/7 months  after we play them twice at twickers at the end of this year.  Plenty of time to sort out who can go into the WC with confidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure england are coming to SA in our autumn 2007.  6/7 months  after we play them twice at twickers at the end of this year.  Plenty of time to sort out who can go into the WC with confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Cubiczirconia</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5140</link>
		<dc:creator>Cubiczirconia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well after the last English experience of journeying south (against the Wallabies and All Blacks in 2004) they were just making up the numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well after the last English experience of journeying south (against the Wallabies and All Blacks in 2004) they were just making up the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: St.Petersburgbok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5136</link>
		<dc:creator>St.Petersburgbok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This English side is not as good as the 2002/2003 version.They will be formidible at Twickers nontheless...but lets hope we are better prepared this time around.Also,if they ever ventured South,possibly to a hot afternoon at Ellis, we&#039;d be given a chance to damage their confidence.

Alas, they hide in London with not one of their players ever having lost to SA.They truely must feel that we are easy beats.All good things come to an end?

Eeish, aren&#039;t we being harsh on the Taffies,for long spells I thought they were the side playing at home?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This English side is not as good as the 2002/2003 version.They will be formidible at Twickers nontheless&#8230;but lets hope we are better prepared this time around.Also,if they ever ventured South,possibly to a hot afternoon at Ellis, we&#8217;d be given a chance to damage their confidence.</p>
<p>Alas, they hide in London with not one of their players ever having lost to SA.They truely must feel that we are easy beats.All good things come to an end?</p>
<p>Eeish, aren&#8217;t we being harsh on the Taffies,for long spells I thought they were the side playing at home?</p>
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		<title>By: Hier kom groot k..</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5112</link>
		<dc:creator>Hier kom groot k..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, sorry, couldn&#039;t resist feeding the baboon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist feeding the <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym>!</p>
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		<title>By: Hier kom groot k..</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5110</link>
		<dc:creator>Hier kom groot k..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by the way:

Only Spiere du Toit, Doug Hopwood, Keith Oxlee and Dick Lockyear have passed away of the 20 players that played in the 60/61 grand slam.  But for the skaapsteker 80% alive is regarded as &quot;few are alive&quot;.  What an arsehole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way:</p>
<p>Only Spiere du Toit, Doug Hopwood, Keith Oxlee and <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> Lockyear have passed away of the 20 players that played in the 60/61 grand slam.  But for the skaapsteker 80% alive is regarded as &#8220;few are alive&#8221;.  What an arsehole.</p>
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		<title>By: snoop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5075</link>
		<dc:creator>snoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still dont know why you lot respond to the skaap steker.

Its tiresome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still dont know why you lot respond to the skaap <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym>.</p>
<p>Its tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: KSA Shark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5069</link>
		<dc:creator>KSA Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delek

His Point is that it took them 100years to do two grandslams where we did four in the same period

In South Africa a &quot;Skaapsteker&quot; is a species of snake]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delek</p>
<p>His Point is that it took them 100years to do two grandslams where we did four in the same period</p>
<p>In South Africa a &#8220;Skaapsteker&#8221; is a species of snake</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5068</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can the cancellation of not one but TWO grand-slam attempts, owing to a quarrel over costs or foot &amp; mouth disease even be COUNTED as a &quot;loss&quot; of a grand-slam attempt?  The All Blacks simply could not try!  Or two other grand-slams be regarded as &quot;failed attempts&quot; because one test ended in a draw and not a win?   

At least the AB&#039;s have won their last TWO attempts --- in 1978 and in 2005.  At least almost all of the players on either side who played in those eight tests are actually still alive!

South Africa&#039;s &quot;brag&quot; about winning 4 grand-slams of which the last was 45 years ago in 1960 means that by the next time if and when the Boks win a grand-slam, there will sadly be no other living survivor  either from South Africa or any of the Home Unions who will be around to remember the last time that such a thing happened.

It&#039;s a bit like someone being around who could tell you what it was like when Rome was last a world superpower!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the cancellation of not one but TWO grand-slam attempts, owing to a quarrel over costs or foot &amp; mouth disease even be COUNTED as a &#8220;loss&#8221; of a grand-slam attempt?  The All Blacks simply could not try!  Or two other grand-slams be regarded as &#8220;failed attempts&#8221; because one test ended in a draw and not a win?   </p>
<p>At least the AB&#8217;s have won their last TWO attempts &#8212; in 1978 and in 2005.  At least almost all of the players on either side who played in those eight tests are actually still alive!</p>
<p>South Africa&#8217;s &#8220;brag&#8221; about winning 4 grand-slams of which the last was 45 years ago in 1960 means that by the next time if and when the Boks win a grand-slam, there will sadly be no other living survivor  either from South Africa or any of the Home Unions who will be around to remember the last time that such a thing happened.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit like someone being around who could tell you what it was like when Rome was last a world superpower!</p>
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		<title>By: Anvil</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/02/05/nothing-pasty-about-poms/#comment-5060</link>
		<dc:creator>Anvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delek, Ja your factually right.

So lets say we have not done well in recent times and if Tacklers horseshit is anything to go by that was almost half a centruy ago!.

I strongly stand by my second comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delek, Ja your factually right.</p>
<p>So lets say we have not done well in recent times and if Tacklers horseshit is anything to go by that was almost half a centruy ago!.</p>
<p>I strongly stand by my second comment.</p>
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