Stormers far from sublime
14 Feb 2006
Frans Ludeke does not believe that the Stormers outplayed his side on Saturday, despite emerging with a 23-12 victory away from home.
Speaking to keo.co.za, Ludeke reiterated the importance of not throwing out the baby with the bathwater … even if that baby is Calamity Snyman, emphasising that the difference between the sides on Saturday was not immense.
“We didn’t play well at all, and yet we were in that game for a very long period,” Ludeke said. “We lost because of individual mistakes, but neither of the sides played well. They used their opportunities better, and Bolla [Conradie] kicked very well from the base of the scrum, but really the difference came down to that intercept try. A result of another individual mistake.”
Ludeke cautioned Stormers fans not to be overly buoyant despite the victory.
“It wasn’t like they beat us by playing well constructed rugby or by putting a number of plays together. They won a grinder, and credit to them for doing that, but it wasn’t like we were blown off the field.”
38 Comments
14 Feb 2006, 11:47 am
Think Ludeke is right in that the stormers didnt play all that well really but they were still able to beat the cats at home quite comfortably so maybe he is in denial as to how poor the cats really were
14 Feb 2006, 11:48 am
Die Cats het so kak gespeel dat hulle die ******** goed laat lyk het. Die woord subliem kan eers gebruik word as jy n span wen met meer as 70 punte. Of 39. Of…. Veral as die span die helfte van die Bokspan is.
14 Feb 2006, 11:49 am
I think the cats are going to get relegated, i said that about a month ago and ill say that till the end of the super 14
14 Feb 2006, 11:49 am
mmm … blech!
14 Feb 2006, 11:50 am
Some one please tell Frans that
A) some one had to be able to intercept the pass to score the try.
B) The stormers tight 5 always were in control and never stood back.
C) The stormers won an AWAY game
D) The stormers are not getting ahead of themselves and understand fully that the Cats played lke **** on the day.
The fact is that we played better than our opposition on the day and that is all that matters!!
14 Feb 2006, 11:52 am
No actually the Straumas played horrendously, but still outplayed the Cats by a country mile, they were so ****…
Seriousl that has to be the worse game that I have seen in ages from the Cats (and they had some shockers last year too).
Explain this: How does a forward go up in a lineout, secure the ball in his hands, and when all he has to do is pop the ball two metres to the scrummie, he throws it at the ground instead – not once, BUT FOUR TIMES! Is that forward to **** scared of falling on his head that his trying to just get rid of the ball? Does he not trust his team mates to hold him up? What? FOUR TIMES!!!
I am a bulls supporter with a soft spot for the Cats – but the whole bloody team should be fired from day one after a performance like that!
14 Feb 2006, 11:53 am
Cats to be this years roll-over-easy-and-take-it-up- the-arse-from-the-Kiwis-and-aussies-to-give-them-easy-away-points team
14 Feb 2006, 12:00 pm
I’m a great reader of old rugby publications – and two of the worst I’ve recently read is Uli Boelie and the 1992 SA Rugby Annual – edited by Quinton van Rooyen. These two publications have lead me to believe that Blou Bulls writers can’t do anything wrong in their own eyes, are seem to be heavily glaze in Blue (and in Uli’s case – a bit of red and white).
It has also lead me to believe Stan is the reincarnation of Q van Rooyen.
14 Feb 2006, 12:01 pm
Frans
Yip we may not have outplayed you guys but we won. I don’t care if the it the ugliest games ever for the rest of the season as long as we win.
In cricket beautifull cover drives for 4 counts just as much as a accidental chinese cut.
Cheers
14 Feb 2006, 12:03 pm
WWW
Every year we have a roll-over-easy-and-take-it-up- the-arse-from-the-Kiwis-and-aussies-to-give-them-easy-away-points team sometimes even two all the teams have taken a turn Cats, bulls,stormers and the sharks i think thats why we didnt win the s12 cause the ozzies and nz always get freebies against one of our teams.
14 Feb 2006, 12:14 pm
And didnt the Stormers win all the line-outs and scrums, have less handling errors and scored to two tries to the Cats 0???
14 Feb 2006, 12:16 pm
Ok Frans sour grapes hey. Take the loss on the chin you idiot. You know very well that your team is kuk and is staring down the relegation barrel. I actually hope the cats are the relegated so we can have the Rose brothers back. There are actually not that many boks in the cats side so I am sure they can be distributed accordingly…
14 Feb 2006, 12:17 pm
Ja Redox
That is so true – without fail every year one team makes is so FREAKIN difficult for the other SA teams to get into the semis. The bulls too – I am not denying it (infact the Bulls more than most). That s why they cant ***** about Spears not being “good enough”.
FFS it is so frustrating! Honestly watching the cats game you would swear that the players never even called each other at Christmas in the off season…
14 Feb 2006, 12:22 pm
Well, I didn’t call any of my collegues over Chrisrmas… Did you???
14 Feb 2006, 12:25 pm
WWW
One thing i noticed about the aussie and nz sides even when they are struggling they keep on trying like the reds every year they struggle but they dont feel sorry for themselves and always try to win the game so at least they win a few games and they dont give away 5 pointers every week.Our sides start feeling sorry for themselves like a bunch of amateurs and moan about the touring etc and start giving away freebies it just doesnt cut it they are pro players.
14 Feb 2006, 12:26 pm
Frans desperately needs some cheese with his wine.
14 Feb 2006, 12:30 pm
Boys, honestly now, what were you expecting from the Bulls last year after they lost their first game against the Cats?
Its still early days yet…
14 Feb 2006, 12:34 pm
RedCard
Absolutely.
I for one am NOT judging the Stormers until at least two more games have been played.
We will soon see where there season is headed.
A win against the cats was a given, we drill em every year just about, super and currie.
I am also not writing the cats off just yet, perhaps this loss will be the kick in the *** they clearly need.
14 Feb 2006, 12:43 pm
Stormers will end top of the log of the south african teams , we are back this year and with style aswell
14 Feb 2006, 12:46 pm
Dream on Andre. They’ll be up and down like a hookers panties all season as ussual… As much as I’d like to think otherwise, being from Cape Town myself.
14 Feb 2006, 12:46 pm
Reckon FL needs to keep his cake-hole shut and concentrate on his own team, the stormers won fair and square.
14 Feb 2006, 12:52 pm
Langman
If the tight 5 can stand there man this year i am sure we will do much beter than last year. Ok Bulls are still our only hope but look at the sharks this year. But i will always support my beloved stormers
14 Feb 2006, 12:59 pm
Andre_WP
As a Stormer supporter myself, don’t get ahead of yourself after only one game. Download some logic from this site: http://www.getsomesense.com and then log back on to this site.
14 Feb 2006, 13:08 pm
Andre,
Dink jy dis n goeie ding om so vroeg in die dag te begin drink?
14 Feb 2006, 13:23 pm
http://www.liveinthenow.com/don‘tbeadoos/andre
14 Feb 2006, 13:32 pm
The S12 was a marathon. The S14 is an ultra-marathon. The teams are all gonna have to dig deep into their reserves and that will cause a lot of interesting developments – especially towards the end of the competition. This was the first round and can be no indication of the road ahead. The Cats may just be one of the lucky few to get through the S14 with few injuries. Some of the favourites may be unlucky with many. So much can and will happen over such a long competition. Let’s only speculate on relegation etc. in the second half of the S14. The Cats may just surprise us all – especially with AP back.
14 Feb 2006, 13:44 pm
“Stormers far from sublime…” Really Frans??? They still managed to whip those fracking ***** cats! Why don’t you shut your pie-hole and start figuring out a way for those useless F***S to start playing as a rugby team. Otherwise you and your fellow ******* might be out of a job next year. I myself would like to see this team relegated! No more excuses, results or relegation!!!!
14 Feb 2006, 13:53 pm
Poor Frans Ludicrous. One game into the season, and he’s already in deep denial. I won’t be surprised if the Pussies fail to win a game this year.
14 Feb 2006, 14:00 pm
I love this game , is it because i talk sense most of the time or is it because you guys understand netball beter than rugby hahahaha
14 Feb 2006, 14:13 pm
true cats are a differnet side with AP innit
14 Feb 2006, 14:42 pm
Chris – I cant see anywhere where Ludeke cautions the Stormers fans from being overly bouyant. did you forget to paraphrase that bit, or are you creating headlines out of nothing again?
14 Feb 2006, 14:51 pm
stormers still won. that’s the bottom line
14 Feb 2006, 15:24 pm
Oom Frans, jy is nie n ‘sublime’ coach nie, OK?
14 Feb 2006, 15:32 pm
C’mon Frans. Don’t be such a suurgat!
There’s really no need to pull a Pieter de Villiers.
14 Feb 2006, 15:36 pm
i have too much to say RE this game.
fact, both stormers and cats are **** – one just a tad more than the other.
the two worst coached sides in S14
15 Feb 2006, 01:32 am
I wonder what other excuses Frans Ludicrous will be dreaming up as his nightmare season unfolds?
15 Feb 2006, 03:13 am
The Stormers played poorly – that’s a fact.
Too many passes “hanged” in the air, meaning the ball were given too much height and less velocity. This meant that the player at the receiving end couldn’t run at pace but had to stand still and wait for the ball. Sometimes the passes were also misdirected and players had to reach out backwardly to catch the ball.
15 Feb 2006, 10:21 am
Kapie you are right in your assessment…still too slow in my opinion from flyhalf to midfield, also Stormers are not securing the ruck and mall effectively…allowed the pussycats to spoil….finally okes when will SA teams start playing smarter instead of stamp kar rugby…we need enforcers upfront, pace out wide, brains/finesse/skill in the midfield, vision at 8/9/10 and more co-ordination at 15…the wobbleys and AB’s have always been smarter than the boks at the breakdown and created the opportunities by frustrating our players to the point that we lose our heads and give away penalties…
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