Jaco ready to storm Super 14
7 Mar 2006
Jaco van der Westhuyzen will play in the Vodacom Super 14 as soon as he gets a medical clearance, Springbok coach Jake White confirmed.
White, speaking to Keo.co.za, said that the Japanese-based Bok flyhalf would definitely play the second half of the competition.
“It is very exciting news that he will be available,” said White. “We have to make sure that he is placed in a squad where he will get regular game time that is beneficial to the national cause.”
White said no decision had been made on where Van der Westhuyzen would play, but that it seemed logical to push for his inclusion in the Stormers squad.
“Bolla plays nine and Jean de Villiers plays 12. It would make sense to see Jaco play in that set-up, where he is getting game time with his national teammates. It would help me tremendously if he was playing inside of Jean for a consistent period leading into the national season,” said White, who is hoping to finalise the Van der Westhuyzen situation in the next week.
White, in the past month, has been active in his 2007 World Cup planning. He has conducted workshops with those involved in previous campaigns, regardless of the success of the campaign.
“It is important to get perspective from both sides. We can’t always tap into what worked for a previous squad. We also have to explore why certain things did not work. It was a healthy discussion, but it was only a starting point.
“The World Cup, in many respects, is not won at the World Cup. Successful teams will always take you back 18 months to the planning stages as the basis of their success. I think this is where we have failed ourselves as a nation in previous campaigns. The build-up to the last two World Cups has been dominated by off-the-field issues and disruption. Hopefully, we can get it right in the next 18 months and every decision made in South African rugby is to the benefit of this campaign.
“We need the entire country’s rugby stakeholders pulling for the national cause. The World Cup cannot be won on the basis of input from the national squad and the coaches. It goes beyond that,” said White, who added that he was comfortable the Boks could select 30 players of the highest quality.
“We have depth in our game and a lot of it is playing overseas. The key is to keep them here, but to do that you need a good succession plan in Super 14 and Currie Cup rugby.”
129 Comments
7 Mar 2006, 10:12 am
Another Gem from Jake
7 Mar 2006, 10:12 am
Hey hey first up…..Hope Jaco doesn’t get badly affected by the Stormers current malaise…..
7 Mar 2006, 10:13 am
damm it tony
7 Mar 2006, 10:13 am
Sorry Jester, not to worry, those who are last shall be first
7 Mar 2006, 10:14 am
Jaco die akkedis… mmmmmm
7 Mar 2006, 10:18 am
Mmmmm, that’s the best solution for the Boks but is it for the Stormers?
Particularly when you are staring relegation in the eye.
Get all your best players on the park!!!
9 Bolla
10 Grant
11 DeVilliers
12 DeWet
13 Joubert
14 Benjamin
15 Jaco
7 Mar 2006, 10:19 am
Be good to see Jaco in black….got to feel for Grant though – he has been solid.
7 Mar 2006, 10:20 am
Great move Jake!!! Grant will learn a hell of a lot from Jaco.
7 Mar 2006, 10:23 am
But will Kobus Van de Merwve have national interests at heart, and drop Grant for Jaco, clearly Jake wants Jaco and 10 and not 15.
7 Mar 2006, 10:26 am
Spook
If I was Kobus and was given Jaco, I’d take one look at Greeff and say…”Jaco, you’re playing 15 mate”
7 Mar 2006, 10:27 am
Jaco is the worst flyhalf I have seen in the green in gold after Van Straaten. I don’t know why no-one can see that. His only attribute is rush defense which leads us right back to the uncreative live-of-opponents’-mistakes style rugby.
7 Mar 2006, 10:27 am
Jake is an idiot.This proves it.A Super14 team from SA will be relegated this year and Jake is playing these games. Forcing a player into a side is sure to cause major disruptions. Teams spend months preparing for the S14,working together,playing together and Jake just shoves someone in there. What a loser. Stay away from Loftus Jake. You’re not welcome.
7 Mar 2006, 10:28 am
What a waste of a talented player to go and play for the Stormers. He belongs back at the Bulls, but i suppose the others need him more.The Sharks would have been a better call. Better pack and a better pair of scrummies.
7 Mar 2006, 10:31 am
BlueBlood, how is your hero Jonathan Kaplan doin?
7 Mar 2006, 10:31 am
I agree with you Stan, then at least we wouldn,t have had to play some kiwi *******.
7 Mar 2006, 10:33 am
Stan, nie een van die Sharks scrummies is in die Bok mix nie, Bolla is en ook JdV, DwB, MJ buite hom.
7 Mar 2006, 10:35 am
Ja die stormers het in Ou Bull nodig om hulle te help…. great move van White. Miskien moet hulle paar van ons ander Bulle ook leen. hmmmmm terwyl ons daarvan praat miskien moet die Bulle se coaching staff daar ook help.
Wp en Stormers het regte joke in S.A rugby geword hulle amper meeste springbok ouens maar is die swakste. Schalk Burger moet sy game lift hy lyk nie meer so goed nie.
The invasion from the Bulls into WP
7 Mar 2006, 10:38 am
Awww, stan , that is so nice of you… we need him more.
stanley, i suppose thats your real name, sure you got bragging rights but you still have a match vs the Stompies at Newlands and the chances of you actually winning is not that great. Ag, thats my opinion anyway…
7 Mar 2006, 10:39 am
wpw,that primordial ooze is doing nothing luckily. I checked the ref roster up to week 8 of the S14 and he’s not coming anywhere near the Bulls, so our chances are increasing already.
This type of thing gets my gut though. If Jake forces players in where he wants them, for the “national cause”, it makes a mockery of the S14. It means that the S14 is just an ant farm where players are tested or given match parctise. I don’t pay money to watch practise or experiment games. I pay to watch my team kick butt. This comes back to the famous john robbie line of “the score doesn’t matter, let’s try out new combonations”.
If this is the case then Administartors must announce on national television and radio that the upcoming test / S14 game/s are experimental only and then we would know not to spend hundreds of hard earned rands on tickets, sponsors’ products etc.
I pay to see my team win, if the Administrators have other ideas they must be aired before hand in the national media.
7 Mar 2006, 10:46 am
You’ve got to feel for Jake at this stage. He has to build a team of consistent match winners from the rabble masquerading as professional rugby players in the S14 at the moment.
7 Mar 2006, 10:52 am
The Stormers can’t replace Grant with Jaco as they would be doing away with their first choice goal kicker. I think the Cats need him more anyway. With Julies on his outside and January at nine the same reasons aply as mentioned above by Jake for including him in the Stormers team.
7 Mar 2006, 10:56 am
Valkie, moenie nou vriendelik wees as jy n opperste **** op die ander thread was nie.
Elkgeval, ek rate Pienaar en davidson albei baie hoer as Bolla en de kock.
7 Mar 2006, 10:56 am
If there is anything that will get the stormers back on track it is this one.
7 Mar 2006, 10:56 am
Dit sal goed wees as Jaco en Andre Snyman in die S14 speel om hulle te toets (kom Andrs betyds terug?). Ek het in Februarie een game van Andre gesien en hy het werklik goed gespeel. Maar miskein is die S14 ‘n groter toets?
Stan,
Jy moetie die manne innie Kaap so kwaad maak nie – netnou verloor ons teen hulle in Mei – wag liewers en as ons wen dan praat ons – ek het ‘n feeling die Stormers wag vir die Bulls.
Dink jy nie die Bulls kan nog so 30% verbeter op hulle huidige spel nie? Ek het hulle nog nie op dreef gesien die jaar nie en eintlik is dit goeie nuus want dan le ons goeie games nog voor???
Ek dink egter ons loossies en 1 tot 3 is nie wat dit moet wees nie!!
Muppits,
Is dit regtig nodig om sulke vieslike taal te gebruik?? Haal mekaar uit maar magtig dis nie nodig om walglik te raak nie.
Ig,
Do something about the language man…. It’s getting more difficult to be part of this site if we keep on with this filth.
Verskoon spelfoute – haastig.
7 Mar 2006, 10:57 am
wpweeee
2 Problems
Jaco is white ( not Jake )
Jaco is a thick ********
and you need him, you need a miracle
7 Mar 2006, 10:58 am
aah so it’s seems Jake is already getting his World Cup team together based on the ‘old’ club and not on performance. If players want to play somewhere else they first need to prove they are up to it by playiing first in VC and CC and not just stepping into the Super 14 – it’s all about bring players thru the ranks. But all the players think they are a super star once they get a contract (Rose brothers are a good e.g and they want to shout the odds – well their playing days have been reduced and long term they suffer so earn the big buck now before all the injuries start to come thru).
With Jake also bringing back Snyman from Leeds when we have plenty of good centre’s show he is looking at set idea’s – the game plan’s of the Super 14 sides all seem the same and are not working so before it’s too late he needs to change his way of thinking.
7 Mar 2006, 11:01 am
Stan,
ek is altyd ‘n ****, dit beteken nie ek kan nie so nou en dan jou punt insien nie – stem saam dat Bolla nie beter is as Pienaar nie, maar Jake rate vir Bolla en gaan hom kies
7 Mar 2006, 11:03 am
Jakes planning seems to be miles ahead of any bok coach since Kitch for 95. Rudolf the dumbass was looking for boot camps to kick the **** out of players for the 18 months prior to 2003.
7 Mar 2006, 11:09 am
Valkie
Ek wens die res van die kapenaars was almal so eerlik…
Jake gaan Bolla kies omdat daar X aantal nie -blankes in die span moet wees.
FDP,january,Pienaar en Davidson is huidiglik ons 4 bestes.
7 Mar 2006, 11:12 am
Hey you all read Staals comments – try be nice to each other !
7 Mar 2006, 11:14 am
Stan, what would you do with him at the bulls? I thought you already had 2 springbok quality flyhalves and the best fullabck in SA? And Jaco does not fit your game plan…
Cats have AP
sharks – Butch and Tony
Cheetas – de Waal and Bosman
Stormers – Grant….
I think Jaco going to the Stormers is logical, but then I am a supporter so maybe I am biased. Please convince me of the merits of your argument.
7 Mar 2006, 11:15 am
Billy – his planning is miles ahead but the plan is from 10 years ago that all top team can now read – what has he done for us to make rugby exciting and good to watch – even borring England are playing a better game currently.
7 Mar 2006, 11:15 am
I still think Butch is our answer at 10, once his over his injuries!
7 Mar 2006, 11:20 am
MJ – ehhh…. NO
7 Mar 2006, 11:22 am
hehe. Did you guys hear Phil Kernns’ (I think it was him) comment about Butch James continuous injury. He piped up: ‘I bet it’s a shoulder injury and not an arm injury…’. Classic stuff
7 Mar 2006, 11:24 am
Valkie,sal jy liewers teen JvW speel of teen Butch? As ek teen JvW speel gaan sy verdediging my defentief nie bang maak nie, en “Butch” het net soveel “flair” en verspreidingsvermoe soos Jaco … Op die ou ende is dit verdediging wat tel by die “World Cup”
7 Mar 2006, 11:25 am
Stan
‘n Vriend van my was so twee weke gelede by ‘n ontbytsessie van Jake White. Jake is gevra oor sy opinie van Ruan Pienaar waarop Jake geantwoord het dat indien hy nou ‘n Springbokspan moet kies, Ruan een van sy eerste keuses sal wees.
Jake het blykbaar gese dat nie net is Ruan een van die beste jong talente in jare nie, maar indien in nood kan hy loskakel speel (en ander posisies) en pale toe skop.
Weet net nie wie Jake gaan uitlos nie.
7 Mar 2006, 11:26 am
stan, dis hoekom JW die coach is en nie n rasistiese moffie soos jy nie. Davidson is al lank nie meer n goeie scrummie nie en Pienaar moet eers leer om te tackle. Dis sy skuld Turinui het daai drie gemaak teen die Sharks. Maar niemand sal mos nou daaroor praat nie. Een of 2 goeie games maak nie n ou n Bok nie. Vra maar vir Ettiene Botha as jy hom sien. O ja,ek het vergeet, hy is dood.
7 Mar 2006, 11:27 am
MJ
And that will be in 201?
Cheers
7 Mar 2006, 11:28 am
MJ
Butch gaan nooit weer dieselfde speler wees nie na al sy beserings.
Kyk maar na Johnnie Wilkinson.
JvW is goed op verdediging en is die beste kommunikeerder wat ons het.
7 Mar 2006, 11:28 am
He could go to either Cats or Stormers who both need him just as much.
Cats
9. Januarie
10. Jaco
12. Julies
13. Fourie
Stormers
9. Bolla
10. Jaco
12. JDV
13.MJ/DWB
Either side would be lucky to have him. I dont buy into this “he’s not good enough” idea. FFS we won a 3nations with him at 10. He’s been there and done it against NZ and OZ opposition. We need to utilise our resources in the best possible way and IMO he is better than both Grant and Snyman.
7 Mar 2006, 11:35 am
Wpw
Jou opmerking oor Ettiene Botha is ongevraagd en onsensitief. Regtig baie swak smaak van jou.
7 Mar 2006, 11:36 am
wpw, ek hou nie van die moffie gedeelte nie!Lees no 37 mooi, of vra vir iemand om vir jou te verduidelik.Ja, Ettienne is dood Valcrokop, soos Joe slovo, Hector Pietersen en Steve Biko. Almal gaan dood een of ander tyd.
munki, but thats what i said. The other need him more. But what a waste in the Cape. I thought Grant is the next Bok flyhalf(according to the Spermer supporters anyway)
7 Mar 2006, 11:38 am
Rudebud,
Dis in die gene en n swak poging om my kwaad te kry.Jy kan hom uit die vlakte haal, maar die vlakte maniere uit hom uit haal? nooit!
7 Mar 2006, 11:48 am
wpw – you are the lowest form of scum. have a go at stan, fine we all do from time to time, but dont embarras the rest of us with those kind of comments. it proves you are not a fan of rugby, but a hateful spiteful moron.
7 Mar 2006, 11:49 am
outside of Butch, Jaco has long been my favorite SA flyhalf. AP is gonna be back playing very soon. please let Jaco play for the stormers…
Can Grant play at 15?
7 Mar 2006, 11:50 am
Rustig ouens. Veral met die rasisme man damn!…Ig?
Help nie julle raak so ontsteld nie. Ek kan julle belowe die Cats gaan anyway weer verloor die naweek.
7 Mar 2006, 11:51 am
wpw,
wat is jy so stil Gam?
verduidelik aan die manne wat jy bedoel het deur Ettiene in te sleep.
7 Mar 2006, 11:52 am
Stan
Nieteenstaande die “swak smaak” van wpw se opmerkings, is dit werklik nodig om sy ras te gebruik ten einde jou eie onsteltenis uit te spreek?
Dis maar tipies van mense soos jy om eerder die man te speel as die bal en jou eie kulturele tekortkominge en geloof te gebruik om jou rassistiese gedagtes te uiter slegs omdat jy nie met iemand saamstem nie.
Kry ‘n lewe man…
7 Mar 2006, 11:53 am
Grant has not managed to find his outside men with passes the whole season so far? Occasionally he misses his whole back line? His tacklng is ordinary and his tactial kicking is not exceptional. And I haven not sen him make a line break yet. If solid means ordinary, then yes, he has been solid. The Keo site seems to be pushing him as The Next Big Thing for some reason, despite all evidence to the contrary. Is he your mate? Even if he is – tell it straight, or you will be doing SA a big injustice…
7 Mar 2006, 11:54 am
en die stilte van wpw is oorverdowend.
of het jy nou alweer die rekenaar gebreek?
7 Mar 2006, 11:55 am
I think the reason he looks so good www is because
relative to klein tjips, who he basically replaced, he is a class act!
7 Mar 2006, 11:55 am
O verskoon my
Jy kan nie redeneer nie.
Jy kan slegs ander mese se ras gebruik en hulle as Westers kulyureel onaanvaarbaar uitkryt as hulle nie volgens jou siening wil instem nie.
Daardie houding het gesterf. Nie in 1948 nie, nie 1994 nie, maar so ver terug as 1828 toe slawerny afgeskaf is.
Miskien hoort jy beter tuis in daardie kulturele agtergeblewene gedagtegang as in a moderne beskawing.
7 Mar 2006, 11:57 am
I reckon Jaco would be far better suited at the Cats as they don’t have a flyhalf at the moment. Snyman is a disaster and Rose isn’t a flyhalf. Grant has been solid and I think replacing him wouldn’t be the best use of our resources in SA. He’s a player of the future and being sidelined won’t help. The Cats need him, I hope Jake changes his mind.
7 Mar 2006, 11:58 am
davidsp,
hy het met die rassisme begin.
lees my no29. Dis feite dat daar gekleurdes in die span moet wees.Habana, Guthro en january is op verdienste. Eddie en Bolla maak die vereiste vol.Ek praat nie eers van Bobo nie.
7 Mar 2006, 12:00 pm
so can you tossers plse answer me this: Is Ettiene Botha dead or is he alive? He is dead…
Oh, and i didnt rate him as a player…just like most of you dont rate certain players…
stanley stanley, velcrokop? bwahahahahhahaa
As jy so se ja. ok.
7 Mar 2006, 12:01 pm
Hobbo ,the Cats dont need him,they have Pretoors who will be returning soon.
The Bulls could do with a running flyhalf who is not obssesed with kicking to touch all the time.I like a Flyhalf who can mix it up a bit.
The Stormers can do with him.Hell they can do with anybody now.Even Geo Cronje!
7 Mar 2006, 12:02 pm
Davidsp,
Blameer die kapenaars vir die slawerny.
Hier in die noorde het ons nooit slawe gehad nie!
Jy weet, die jare toe ons nog die kleurlinge gemaak het was hulle iets werd, maar nou dat hulle hulself maak is hulle nutteloos!
Ontspan oudste, jy behoort nou te weet dat alles alles net kakpraat is. Baie meer interessant as om oor die stormers te praat!
7 Mar 2006, 12:04 pm
www – Keo and all WP/Stormers supporters are hoping Grant is the next big thing – because we’d love an exceptional flyhalf.
I dont think many of us would suggest he’s bok material. We just pray he will one day be…
7 Mar 2006, 12:04 pm
I think Bobo will make an excellent TV-presenter or as they call them “rugby-analis”, as long as they don’t throw the mike at him he would be fine …
7 Mar 2006, 12:05 pm
stan, ek voel jammer vir jou. nee regtig… die feit dat jy net mense sien en ‘judge’ weens hoe hulle lyk is maar baie pateties…
7 Mar 2006, 12:06 pm
Stan – it takes 2 to tango. We’re all to blame. dont try taking any moral high ground. We all know you have no morals…
7 Mar 2006, 12:06 pm
munkiboi,
Grant is talented,but rushed way too soon to the big time IMHO.
7 Mar 2006, 12:07 pm
munki,
To be honest, i dont think Grant is all that bad. I expect more from his so called experienced centres and scrummies around him. They are suppose to guide him, but they would not be able to find sand in a ******* desert.
7 Mar 2006, 12:09 pm
no morals? Explain?
7 Mar 2006, 12:09 pm
Stan & wpw
Julle is albei ‘n verleentheid soos julle aangaan. Gaan moer mekaar eerder voor politieke stembusse. Hier is veronderstel om rugby gepraat te word. Ek stel regtig nie belang in julle opmerkings wat nie net in swak smaak is nie, maar ook heeltemal irrelevant is.
Cheers.
7 Mar 2006, 12:12 pm
To all you guys who i offended with the ettiene botha comment, i didnt mean to offend anyone but stan…
cheers
7 Mar 2006, 12:13 pm
If jaco does go to the stormers then ther’s only one more person they will need & that is……….Alan Solomons i rate he can change fortunes around 4 them….does’nt anyone know what this oke did for the UCT 1st team.Mallet shud call this guy up.Kobus does’nt know ****
7 Mar 2006, 12:15 pm
rudebud, munki, ask any muppit on this site who normally starts 1st with tasteless comments about players of colour os about WP or Strmrs rugby teams? The name most of them will mention is stan.
I was man enough to admit that my comment was uncalled for but get this prick to apologise for his racist comments, i can bet you he wont…
7 Mar 2006, 12:18 pm
Anvil, that is great news!!!!!!!!!!
How soon is Pretorius going to be back, that might just save the Cats from relegation.
7 Mar 2006, 12:21 pm
just as i thought, the racist bigot is not hear… i will bet anyone he wont apologise for the racist comments…
7 Mar 2006, 12:21 pm
Jy is reg, ek sal nie.
Die Stormers verdien ontsmaaklike kritiek, want hulle speel ontsmaaklike rugby.
7 Mar 2006, 12:22 pm
wpw – it is HERE …
7 Mar 2006, 12:23 pm
is not hear….
Sug, wat n vermorsing van my belastinggeld.
7 Mar 2006, 12:25 pm
the reds and sharks have both played 19 year old flyhalves this year. Grant is not too young, and has not been rushed. its sink or swim in my opinion. if a player needs to be nursed, he’ll never have what it takes. just look at gaffie. no amount of nursing is going to inject him with bmt, despite him being the most talented flyhalf i can remeber seeing. he has awesome pace, a decent step, skill, size and a booming boot. yet he cant control a match with any kind of consistency in his game.
the guy should be 1st choice bok flyhalf, ut scrapes into the cheetas team at wing. biggest waste of talent since skinstad. IMO
7 Mar 2006, 12:28 pm
Hobo, I know its taking forever but Pretoors will be good to go as soon as his day in court is dealt with.Reckon that would be sooner than Jaco’s impending arrival.IF he arrives that is
7 Mar 2006, 12:32 pm
En wat van die rasistiese comments stan? Ek weet jy sal nie ‘apologise’ oor die strmrs nie…
7 Mar 2006, 12:33 pm
Anvil, so he’s actually fit already and only needs to clear up that trial, great news.
7 Mar 2006, 12:47 pm
wpw – its best not to let his comments wind you up. if anything you should know many of his posts are in jest. if not I feel for him, I really do.
7 Mar 2006, 13:07 pm
Another solutio n of course is to just ask Jaco where he’d prefer to go?
or
Ask which coach would want his services?
Can’t really see the Stormers management or players being to thrilled at his arrival particularly given the fact that Grant has been backed already.
7 Mar 2006, 13:43 pm
WPW – Don’t let rooinek afrikaaner rock spider Stan get to you. He is a outcast to society who gives whites a bad name because of his old SA attitude. Stan get back on your ox wagon and remember your ancestors got fucked up in the boer war…
7 Mar 2006, 13:48 pm
WPW
Stan is just white trash as bigg says he just gives all whites a bad name ignore the oke.
7 Mar 2006, 13:51 pm
Stan
Die slawe kwessie was een van die groot redes hoekom die Voortrekkers die Kaap Provinsie verlaat het. Slawerny is afgeskaf en die Engelse regering het belowe om die boere uit te betaal vir wat hulle werd was. Dit het egter nie gebeur nie. Die Slawe eieneaars het slegs ‘n gedeelte van hulle geld gekry en moes dit in London gaan haal.
Die Groot Trek het eers circa 1830 begin. So jou voor ouers was nog hier toe daar slawe was tensy hulle kriminele was wat gevlug het vanaf die owerhede.
Maar jy moes al die goed geleer het in Laerskool Geskiedenis. MMMmmm lyk my jy het die belasting betaler se geld gemors.
Cheers
7 Mar 2006, 13:55 pm
nice rugby chat …. well done !!!
racism, distatsteful comments, white trash, the great trek – you name it – anything but rugby !!!
7 Mar 2006, 14:18 pm
At some point, the irritation factor of the racist filth spewing from Stan is going to drive normally quiet, interested people away. I am one of them.
Additionally, my reading of the hate speech clauses of various parts of the constitution is that what Stan expounds here sails perilously close to the wind.
This is a moderated forum. I expect someone to take action. You CAN get rid of him.
Cheers
7 Mar 2006, 14:21 pm
Mikegee
I agree.
(That kinds rhymes !)
7 Mar 2006, 14:21 pm
Well, sort of….
7 Mar 2006, 14:26 pm
and i have a pee!!
7 Mar 2006, 14:27 pm
its from drinkin all that tea!!
7 Mar 2006, 14:30 pm
Thanks
I also wanted to add the following warning:
Don’t make sufficently irritated vistirs here report this forum for allowing hate speech. You guys ARE responsible for what appears here, no matter how slippery your disclaimers might be.
Cheers
7 Mar 2006, 14:34 pm
Grant is not a BOK in the making!!!
This is coming from a STAUNCH stormer!!
Watch JODY ROSE!!! So u thinking…but he is too young??
Well Grant is not gonna feature in the next World Cup 2007! So look for JODY in 2011…
He’ll be 23 then!!!
Otherwise…Isma-eel Dollie…Southern Spears Flyhalf…as backup!!!
These guys have vision…
Please dont have theses one dimiensional brains like our SA COACHES!!
7 Mar 2006, 14:35 pm
mikegee – if you have an offical complaint, send it to me we will consider it and if we agree remove it.
Also like to remind you that YOU are responsible for what YOU publish !
7 Mar 2006, 14:39 pm
Who you talking to MIKEGEE???!!!
7 Mar 2006, 14:44 pm
Just a little public airing of spleen, people… have written to Ig privately on this matter.
Resume normal programming
7 Mar 2006, 14:50 pm
Mikegee – settle down there bro! Thanks for giving me permission to resume normal programming.
7 Mar 2006, 14:52 pm
Jake wants a solid team of 30 to take to france,
How about starting xv
1. Os
2. Smit
3. CJ
4. Bakkies
5. Big Vic
6. Schalk
7. Juan
8. Big Joe
9. Ricky
10. Andre
11. Habana
12. Jean
13. Fourie
14. Jantjes
15. Percy
Second xv
1. Gurthro
2. Gary
3. Sephaka
4. Ross Skeate
5. Danie Roussow
6. Kabamba
7. Wikus
8. Cronje
9. Du Preez
10. Jaco
11. Brent
12. De Wett
13. Jouba
14. Jongi
15. Roets
Others that are deserving.
Ruan Pienaar
Schalk Britz
Bosman/Grant
Wayne Julies
7 Mar 2006, 14:56 pm
But just exactly how much of which is posted can be construed as racism…..or does our constitution also have bye-laws for provincilasim?
Mikegee
Did you ever see a Stormer fan praise a Bulls’ player, particularly one in direct competion for a Bok spot with one of their own?
Not likely……
Not that I agree with Stan but I’ve never seen you pull the “Hate Speech” number when all and sundry are chanting “Dumb Farkin Dutchmen” and the likes.
Thanks for coming.
7 Mar 2006, 15:00 pm
Ek is nie ‘n wp ou nie, maar ek persoonlik dink dat Grant besig is om sy voete te vind op die vlak. Hy is in elk geval saam Bolla die enigste ouens wat elke saterdag iets beteken in die agterlyn. Die ander Stormer backs wissel van pateties tot useless. Om nou Jaco op 10 te kies kan dalk die verkeerde boodskap vir Grant stuur en meer skade as goed doen.
Ek persoonlik dink Jaco is baie beter op 15 as 10. Sal nie verbaas wees as stormers hom hier gaan gebruik nie.
Dit maak egter sin om hom daar op 10 te gebruik saam JDV. Grant sal net reg bestuur moet word, en ek weet of kobus o’f mallet weet hoe om dit te doen nie.
Sal ook interresant wees om HM se reaksie te sien. Ek weet hy het gesê dat hy graag wil Jaco op 15 gebruik om hom met Roets af te wissel. Dit gee hom meer diepte in die posiesie.
wpw, jy raak nou al bekend daarvoor dat jy ‘n rassistiese aanmerkings of aanstootlike aanmerkings soos jou EB post maak en dan vra jy so paar post’s later omverskoning. Hierdie verskonings dra nie meer water nie, dink liewers volgende keer voor jy post.
7 Mar 2006, 15:02 pm
Hey St. P
Thanks for your comment. I don’t comment often enough on here for you to make any judgement about the pattern of my posting.
At any rate, I have had my say privately to the owners of this forum, and expressed my concern publicly about the virulent racism some posters display on here.
Carry on
7 Mar 2006, 15:12 pm
BWAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious.
So much to say about some of the KAK I have read I will rather just get back to work.
7 Mar 2006, 15:14 pm
That’s ok Mikegee,
I was just posting an opinion……I hope that’s ok with the constitution?
Yes. you are right, you don’t post often enough for me to make any informed judgement.Apologies if you have taken offence.
Nonetheless, the rhetoric stands…would you be complaining to the site owners if it were the Afrikaaners being abused?
I wouldn’t.
So it would be pretty rich to file complaints withregards to other cultures surely?
Thanks for coming.
7 Mar 2006, 15:18 pm
Mikegee, piss off you self righteous patronizing tosser.
You and Brendan Venter should get a room. I do however thank you for spicing up the forum. Keep it up.
7 Mar 2006, 15:31 pm
StP,
Your post 97 is spot on!!!
7 Mar 2006, 15:42 pm
wow – folks getting a bit tense.
I read and post on this site and I have never been offended by any post – in fact I beleive that it is good to get other folks views as it makes your mind grow wider and become more objective to your own way of thinking. The post yesterday that offend (3rdday I think it was) I thought was very funny but it offend some others (still trying to work that one out!!).
The thing is if you find it so bad just don’t read the post in fact don’t come to the blogg it’s as simple as that – yes some folks posts will generate more response but if they were offended they would not post or come to the blogg again – they would find another place to post. It’s that simple.
7 Mar 2006, 15:43 pm
wpw, there’s an official quota policy in SA rugby. So quota players exist, and people will mention them. So stop being so sensitive and realise that reverse discrimination exists and that some rugby fans who like to have teams chosen on merit will whinge about it. And will moan about players like Eddie Andrews, Quiton Davids etc. Oh, and slow uncle Paulse.
Oh, before I forget, I hope your local ANC councillor has your interests at heart, but I suspect he doesn’t! Ha ha
7 Mar 2006, 16:07 pm
Mohawk, what about players like Shaun Sowerby, AJ Venter, Andre Snyman, Willemse and James coming back from injury. Where would they fit in, besides the last two the first three should be garanteed places in either one of those two teams.
7 Mar 2006, 16:13 pm
wespa531, i live in an area where there are actually more DA councillors than ANC.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this site but it is strange that when an average to good black player is discussed he is a quota but when a guy like Marco Wentzel, Wessel Roux, became Boks nobody moans? Strange isnt it. We have more white players who are **** in SA teams but nothing gets said…
7 Mar 2006, 16:13 pm
same **** different day.
for me this is a good thing, you cannot buy experience and come WC time all the names mentioned today can only add to the cause.
someone mentioned jaco being the worst ever bok flyhalf (too lazy to scroll back up now)?
interesting, did we not score more tries with him at 10 (2004) than with AP last year?
7 Mar 2006, 16:19 pm
Agree PA – and a tri-nations to boot !
7 Mar 2006, 16:21 pm
Good point about Jaco and tries, PA…
But then, we also managed to score fewer when we started the season with him last year, didn’t we?
I do agree with you, however, that his experience would be invaluable, even if it is only to give some stability to people around him, and to understudies to him in whichever team he finds himself. If it is to be the Stormers, then I think Grant would become a much better distributor if he were willing to take a hint or two from Jaco. He is already a competent goalkicker, and, as someone else remarked (scroll back, or go to whichever thread it was!), he was one of about two players who looked as if he might be able to break the line every now and then.
7 Mar 2006, 16:24 pm
wpw, I understand your sensitivities but you also need to understand that we should be able to criticise based on performance. Habana is one of my favourite players, (when he’s not trying to intercept the whole time!)but that doesn’t mean that I’m not allowed to say that I think Breytie is past his sell by date. How many times have Marco Wenzel and Wessel Roux played for the Boks, by the way?
7 Mar 2006, 16:28 pm
PissAnt
Don’t assume that those tries …
1) we’re all scored by the backline
or
2) with JvdW being involved
How about getting the stats with him being involved with the tries scored?
Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying his a bad 10 but I think Jake can do better than him.
7 Mar 2006, 16:50 pm
Jaco is not that kak but also not briljiant; defense is not good, catches balls only when there is no pressure on him nad he really not a good playmaker.
7 Mar 2006, 17:03 pm
BJ,
i will get the stats for you it is just on another pc.
one thing i can guarrantee you is that although not all tries were scored of first phase possession, almost every one was scored through very slick and quick distribution in the channels 1 and 2, not the intercept tries we have become accustomed to up and till now.
but yes, he is not brilliant in my view as well – but he sure as hell brings a lot more to the party than most on offer currently on display.
7 Mar 2006, 17:20 pm
wpw, kom nou toe. Daar word baie kritiek gelewer teen al die spelers in provisiale spanne sowel as nationale span. Vb: Gus, John Smit, Greef, Hougaard, De Wet ja en ook Marco Wentzel (waar gaan haal jy hom uit. al vergeet van hom) en Wessel Roux.
Onthou hou net die term “kwota speler” is nie ‘n rassistiese term nie!
Die oomblik dat iemand kritiek lewer teen ‘n wp speler van kleur dan klim veral jy! teen die dak uit en sê net swart en/of bruin spelers word gekritiseer en skree rassisme. Jy is dan die een wat gewoonlik begin met rassistiese aanmerkings soos “dumb Dutcmen”.
As jy sien die ouens begin jou aanval dan is jy vinnig om te sê dit was ‘n joke gewees.
Kom in pas met die res van SA. Jy sal agterkom dis nogal ‘n nice plek.
7 Mar 2006, 17:22 pm
BERNHARD
“Jaco is not that kak but also not briljiant; defense is not good, catches balls only when there is no pressure on him nad he really not a good playmaker. ”
In other words you are saying that he is KAK
7 Mar 2006, 17:39 pm
Jaco kom maar eerder terug Bulle toe. Stormers is net vol politiek en stront op die stadium, en hulle speel op die stadium nou maar net plain k@k. En die ondersteuners….jeepers gaan browse bietjie op die stromers se site. Is geen wonder die Stormer spelers speel so nie.
7 Mar 2006, 18:10 pm
JONDOOD
Nee hy is average, nie kak nie; as jy KAK wil sien dan kyk jy na ouens SOOS Gus, Butch, Bobbo, Tiaan Snyman, Derrick Hougardt(daai jong lat op die bench is ****** 100x beter as hy)Wyllie Human – hulle is nou kak(O ja en Ollie Le roux) Hy ****** sweet kla as hy net sy sweetpak uittrek.
7 Mar 2006, 18:46 pm
En ja BULLSEYE julle kan hom maar vat, want julle het elke biejie hulp nodig wat julle kan kry want die wiel het gedraai, julle word nou die slaan sakke en julle word geboelie; wil sien hoe die bulle gaan maak anderkant die water, want fok hulle is so kakbang vir vlieg, Currie Cup sien julle nie weer vir die volgende 3x jr nie; die kaap dien hom darem 6maande vir elke jaar…
7 Mar 2006, 19:41 pm
Hands off Peter Grant, Jake. The kid is developing nicely.
7 Mar 2006, 19:44 pm
Yes he will be a Pearl for us, just need the correct mentor to bring him through the levels
7 Mar 2006, 20:04 pm
Pah, I don’t believe for one minute thet Jaco will be playing for the Stormers, With all respect it will do nothing for his game at this stage, he would be better off with the Cheetah’s.
Everytime the man comes back here where is he always seen lurking, Around the Bull pen. No, As much as Jake dislikes the Bulls he will have no choice but to put him there, and that’s mainly cause the player also has a say.
Meyer will take hime in and that’s mainly cause he knows what Jaco can do under him, whereas Van der Merve, well, he doesn’t have a clue either way.
7 Mar 2006, 20:11 pm
Hallo Boere, Stan is terug!
What a successfull day at the office.
Ig, jy en die Bergdwerg skuld my bigtime vir die stimulasie wat ek gegenereer het op so n vervelige dag.
Mikegee, is jy nog hier? Ek dog jy het jou tasse gepak.Hierdie is n grootman se site en jy moet ballas he om hier te oorleef. Dis seker hoekom die kapenaaars so swaar kry.
Bigg, Normison is ook n goeie alternatief vir Valiums…
Cheers, sien julle more. Fok maar ek geniet my verlof!
8 Mar 2006, 07:26 am
oh noes, mike gee is going to report us…. oh noes!! Are you going to tell my mommy? Will I have to stay behind after school?
Grow up you bunch of oversensitive twats!
8 Mar 2006, 07:40 am
Lem,
Ja, ek het self so sleg gespaap na al Mikey Pee se beskuldigings moes ek n paar valiums by kapenaars gaan leen het!
Mikey, as jy saam met die groot honde wil pis, moet jy jou been hoog genoeg kan lig.
Vertel ons eerder watter span ondersteun jy?
8 Mar 2006, 08:34 am
stan
wil jy sê dat as jy ‘n “grootman” wil wees, dan moet jy kan vloek soos ‘n matroos? ek wonder hoe ysters soos ruben kruger, andré venter, ens. voel daaroor?
8 Mar 2006, 08:36 am
stan
jammer, ek sien dat mikegee oor iets anders gekla het.
8 Mar 2006, 10:49 am
I did not read all the comments but can tell you this, if Jaco is slotted in at 10 in the Stormers team it can either damage his career or lift the stormers. Which one I’m not sure about.
Do not think that because of all the Boks in the stormers backline he will gain a lot. Boys, those stormers/boks are bad this season! They do not look asif rugby is what they wanna play!!
8 Mar 2006, 10:49 am
I did not read all the comments but can tell you this, if Jaco is slotted in at 10 in the Stormers team it can either damage his career or lift the stormers. Which one I’m not sure about.
Do not think that because of all the Boks in the stormers backline he will gain a lot. Boys, those stormers/boks are bad this season! They do not look asif rugby is what they wanna play!!
Agree with blueblood, Jake must stay the f**k away from LOFTUS and go tos up some other unions!
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