Venter lashes Stormers
7 Mar 2006
Brendan Venter, former defensive consultant at the Stormers, has condemned the culture that prevails in the set-up, saying the players generally don’t fight for excellence.
Venter, interviewed by Mike Wills on CapeTalk radio, said the Stormers coaches were chasing shadows if they continued to treat symptoms like dropped passes and poor discipline.
Venter said the issue was attitude and that the players lacked the right attitude to be successful in the competition.
“It is not about losing. It is the way you lose. That is what is upsetting people,” Venter told Wills. The former Stormers and Bok centre said he had worked with the Stormers in a few sessions and was not impressed by their attitude.
He said everyone wanted to be the other guy’s mate and that it helped no one.
“When I used to run next to Francois Pienaar at training and drop a pass I shouldn’t have, he would let me know what he thought of it. He would tell me that if I wanted the privilege of playing alongside him I needed to do my job.”
Venter said it was about promoting excellence at all times and being non negotiable on the basic discipline at training sessions.
“It needs 15 guys totally committed to the game; not just a few individuals.”
He said there were some very professional players in the squad, but not enough leaders. He said collectively the squad did not take responsibility because some individuals were not committed.
When asked about WP Director of Rugby Nick Mallett’s involvement, Venter said that he believed Mallett, as the best coach in the country, should be coaching the team.
“I know that is not his job description,” said Venter, then adding that he would rather see Mallett on the field than in an office.
Venter said that the Cheetahs were an example of guys who played for each other.
“They don’t have the firepower, but they will continue to win more than they lose if they play like they have for the past four weeks. They are playing out of their socks and way above their ability,” he said.
40 Comments
7 Mar 2006, 11:04 am
Mallet may be out the office and no job at the rate the Stormers are going!!
7 Mar 2006, 11:12 am
Miskien is dit nie ‘n sleg idee om NM te kry om Stormers af te rig nie. Hy was ten minste al daar maar KvdM – maar aan die ander kant was H Meyer ook maar ‘n “nuwe ou op die blok” toe hy die bulle begin afrig het. (ongeag wat hy in ou SWD gedoen het)
Miskien moet ons KvdM kans gee tot eiende 2006.
7 Mar 2006, 11:13 am
the privelege of playing next to pienaar… gotta love it!
7 Mar 2006, 11:13 am
Have to agree, the Cheetahs seem to have something special. Just seem to pull something out from somewhere. Except for the Bulls game, in which they were smashed,they aren’t that bad.
7 Mar 2006, 11:17 am
Luister na die woorde wat Bredon gebruik:
Committment, privilege,attitude, basic discipline ens.
Hierdie manne het disspline nodig.
n Week in die Soutpansberg met Straueli kan hulle net goed doen…
7 Mar 2006, 11:27 am
Brendan’s no fool – might just be giving the long-suffering Stormer supporters some clues as to what the hell is going wrong. Cape Talk is a great radio station but did this have to come via the media to the Stormers management – or has he told them this before? If not why not? Stormers management should be holding a bosberaad with anyone who has had anything to do with the side over the last 5 years if they don’t want to be relegation material.
7 Mar 2006, 11:31 am
Stan, ek dink nie hulle het op die oomblik die karakter om so ‘n toets in die berge te slaag nie. Daai ouens se moraal is so laag en niemand glo in wen nie. Shame siestog, dit is ‘n groot k@kspul wat daai unie hulleself in bevind! En kyk maar, die meeste van hulle sal weer groen en goud dra. Maar dis ‘n ander storie heel op sy eie en hier is nie genoeg plek om daaroor te praat nie.
7 Mar 2006, 11:31 am
KvdM doen nou wat M Bailey probeer het toe H Meyer nie in 2005 daar was nie. Die gesag het eintlik by H Meyer gele alhoewel MB die bulle afgerig het – dit het nie gewerk nie!!!
As NM ‘n invloed op spelers wil he (of sy mening oor hulle wil lig) moet hy hulle afrig en nie KvdM nie. Iets is nie lekker in die kaap nie – ek verstaan nie hoe hierdie korporatiewe bestuur styl kan werk nie.
Die Stormers en WP is nie op standaard nie en dit wys vinger na die bestuur!!! Die Bulle was vir jare useless tot ons die regte bestuur in plek gekry het.
Ek loop nou die dag saam met ‘n oud Wp speler in die Raadsaal op Nuweland en daai man is omtrent teleurgesteld oor die performance van sy oud-provinsie. Die Stormers is op papier ‘n hense span maar ek dink dit ontbreek by hul afrigting. Ons is egter nou al amper in die helfde vd S14 en om nou van afrigter te verander gaan moeilik wees.
7 Mar 2006, 11:31 am
Het nounet by die Bellville stadium verbygery waar die Stormers oefen. Kobus is besig om die manne van Bareback Mountain trappe op en afte laat hardloop.
Miskien moet hy hulle eerder leer hoe lyk ‘n rugbybal…!
7 Mar 2006, 11:38 am
Die hele Stormers span moet bietjie vas gevat word. Kobus is nie ons oplossing nie , miskien moet Mallett vir so maand met die ouens werk. Mallett het ‘n goeie afrigtings geskiedenis. Het al lankal gese die man moet self die job doen. Stormers gaan nog paar jaar vat voor hulle weer reg kom. Keo miskien moet jy die ouens gaan uit help.
7 Mar 2006, 11:48 am
Mallet sal niks aan die Stormers se lot kan doen nie.
Jy kan nie die Durban July met n donkie wen nie, maak nie saak wie die afrigter is nie. Jy gaan wel n ****** vinnige donkie hê, maar n donkie gaan hy bly!
7 Mar 2006, 11:49 am
Andre, the word is Nick is in line for the Wales coaching job – how much truth is behind that, we won’t know. Can’t say I blame him if it’s true, the Stormers right now are driving their supporters to drink – might as well drive a few key figures offshore too.
7 Mar 2006, 11:56 am
Die stormers is besig om onder te gaan , ek het gister op die stormers se website gelees hoe ongelukkig die ondersteuners is. Hoop hulle verkoop kaartjies vir die naweek se game. Kan net nie verstaan hoekom ons nie ons wedstryde by die huis kan wen nie. Wat gaan gebeur as ons die pad vat , dan verloor ons seker met 30 punte. Kobus dra die blame maar wat doen hy om die gemors op te los. Nou moet ‘n man maar die k&k op eet van die bulls supporters wat so gat maak van ons stormers , my hart is seer , maar ek sal hom weer reg drink
7 Mar 2006, 12:05 pm
Mallet doesn’t want to coach, so who cares what Venter thinks.
7 Mar 2006, 12:17 pm
Some of you Stormers fans should go down to where they are training and if they drop a ball or do something wrong give them what for!!!
7 Mar 2006, 12:24 pm
Out Wide “the Stormers right now are driving their supporters to drink” you speak the truth buddy!
7 Mar 2006, 13:01 pm
Danie Rossouw should lash the Stormers. They all in need of a big “Pakslae”…
That sounds soooo *** !!!!
7 Mar 2006, 13:07 pm
Brendan Venter is a useless hasbeen. The guy was ever a great player (let alone a great defender). He hit a bit of form in 99 before standing on someones head and suddenly he’s gods gift to rugby.
At least Joost, for all his chirping, is indeed a springbok legend. Venter was a poor mans Hennie Le Roux!!
7 Mar 2006, 13:23 pm
for once I absolutely agree with Brendan.
perhaps they need to move the guys out of cape town – wellington or paarl would be the place to be based between matches.
it is no small wonder teams from Bloem and Pretoria are tops in SA rugby. Outside of ‘living for rugby’ there is fokol to do.
there is no excuse for dropping the passes these guys are dropping. maybe they’re just so used to dropping the soap in the shower…
7 Mar 2006, 13:25 pm
He right about the stormers but a ****** could see the stormers are in trouble.
7 Mar 2006, 13:43 pm
londonshark,
You are shallow indeed!
7 Mar 2006, 13:44 pm
Agree wholeheartedly with Staal’s comments!
7 Mar 2006, 13:54 pm
Jeffers, and your comment is rich with substance.
7 Mar 2006, 14:18 pm
It is true there is no one at the Stormers who strives for excellence and thereby leads others to do the same. They are all lazy ******** who look at their fellow teammamtes for an indication of exactly how little training and how much ineptness they can get away with…
I reckon someone like Vic Matfield who works hard on hs game and does his homework, or Percy (who we have all heard about from the yong players at the Sharks) who trains his *** off an strives for excellence.
Barry is the captain, but his play is dirty (i.e. lazy), and he doesn’t set an example for your players in training or on the field. Perhaps if him and Marius Jubert and Jean started in earnest in looking for excellence, they might inspire their team mates to go the extra mile.
7 Mar 2006, 14:31 pm
The Stormers voted Barry in as their Captain, I thought the captain gets appointed ?
7 Mar 2006, 14:33 pm
Londonshark if you have to be a Springbok legend to have an opinion on Rugby , we should all log off
7 Mar 2006, 15:09 pm
CapeBull,I don’t pretend pretend to be an expert. Brendan Venter does.
The guy really does think he’s God’s gift to rugby.
7 Mar 2006, 15:19 pm
Stan
Jy vergeet dat HMeyer sy S12 coaching debuut by die Stormers onder Solly begin het!!!
7 Mar 2006, 18:43 pm
With the way the Stormers keep reshuffling their roster, it’s simply impossible to get that commitment.
Also, a Captain is usually elected from the forwards where experience is an attribute, could you name one Stormer who might fit the bill
7 Mar 2006, 18:53 pm
I have no enduring memory of Venter ever playing as well as he preaches;
7 Mar 2006, 19:52 pm
Who is Brendan Venter?
7 Mar 2006, 20:16 pm
Brendon Venter always seems to have an opinion . If you want to be involved in coaching then get out there and do it , but not from the sidelines please………..
7 Mar 2006, 21:05 pm
Brendan Venter’s a Bok who played for SA since early 90′s to 99. He COACHED in UK with fair amount of success and is highly regarded in SA & UK. He is quite qualified to voice his concerns & opinions. Only reason he came back to SA was to run his successful Medical Practice. He’s been used as consultant to WP, Stormers & BOKS previously.
There u go!
7 Mar 2006, 21:54 pm
wow Jeffers, but life ios too short to hear opinions from wannabe legends. I only listen to the real deal and Venter does not fall into that catagory…medical practice or not.
8 Mar 2006, 04:43 am
When I warned you two years ago already that The Wet Barry was always no more than a one-dimensional talentless crash-basher and that Marry-Us Joubert was hopeless on defence, many of you banged on about their being the “best midfield in world rugby” and other such rubbish.
Now you know better, hey?
8 Mar 2006, 08:37 am
We were blind cause even our national coach thort them to be the best in the world
8 Mar 2006, 09:50 am
They are still the best, come the internationl season and you guy’s will see. The last bok coach proved that by selecting virtually every Tom **** and Harry to play in every position you can dream of. What happened there ja manne tell me more.
8 Mar 2006, 10:54 am
when vanniekerk comes back ,make him the captain and get rid of barry and a few others
would have loved to see carel still coaching but the admin at newlands thought otherwise and they have been proved wrong yet once again
8 Mar 2006, 12:01 pm
stormers coach vandermerwe seems to suddenly have found out that scalk and luke watson are both fetchers and will play schalk at no 8 in certain scrums and hopes schalk can slow the ball down.
what negative thinking and if he wants schalk to slow the ball down the the chances are very good that he will be penalised
you have to remain on your feet to play the ball in those situations and its time for the coach to go.
the quicker there is a clean up at newlands headquarters the better and hopefully we can see some rugby as it was meant to be played and not all this thrash that we have been subjected to
he talks a good game
8 Mar 2006, 13:12 pm
sheesh like arme stormers hulle word op geraas van onder na bo en bo na onder.hahahaha . Mallet maak jou eie kampstaaldraad en gee hulle hell.
Hoe maak jy in stormer confused?
jy gee hom in bal met oop doelyn hahaha hy so confused hy sal die bal knock
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