Comments on: Poms in free fall http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/ An independent look at South African rugby Sun, 19 May 2013 14:12:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: chch http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-118427 chch Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:57:38 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-118427 Bliksem, I was enjoying your comments before you Winston Peters impersonation. If people have the opportunity to be better off somewhere else and they can bare to leave their homeland then people will move. Why do the same thing for less return when you can move and get more (or the same for less effort). This is human nature. You must be very careful about passing racial judgement on such action. Many people on this site have moved (at least in part) for financial reasons (including me…country number 5).

It is easy for a simple slir to become a predudicial norm. I know (for example) from living in Sydney that the sterio type of Kiwi’s is that they don’t work and instead just hang out in Bondi. In fact Kiwi’s moving to Australia pay more tax per person than any other foriegn group in the country. The dole has not even been available to new Kiwi’s in Australia since 2001.
These things start as simple jokes or slires but ultimately end up in people being treated differently becasue of their ethnic group.

Many Islanders are in NZ and they are a part of our culture. Numbers of Maori and other polynesian groups are almost even. It is a hard transition from much more family orientated cultures. I think on average they probably earn less but are no lazier than multiple generation Kiwi’s (in fact I think that South East Asian immigrants earn the best work ethic award).

Bliksem, I believe you that you have heard Kiwi’s pass this opinion and for that I am truely ashamed. Please do not consider either to be true or the general opinion of the people.

So before we all end up as racially bitter as Duiwel (post 53) or feel the need to elect a government that puts 8 year old refugees behind razer wire lets please stop and think

]]> By: CSI:Rugby http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-28140 CSI:Rugby Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:28:11 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-28140 You got that right bliksem, and u are not mine either

]]> By: hootz http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26937 hootz Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:13:26 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26937 danny carter is freakin’ god

]]> By: bliksem http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26354 bliksem Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:53:36 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26354 CSI rugby I am just telling you what I experienced firsthand and also had verified by lots of kiwis from all walks of life.I am not your mate.Tackler ek is Desember vir n paar dae in Auckland.Gaan ons n paar biere drink?

]]> By: TheTackler http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26339 TheTackler Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:50:19 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26339 “Tackler on grounds of what do you say they dont have a chance.”

To be a professional rugby player at All Black level you have to work VERY VERY hard on top of being very very good. There’s simply no space for a lazy layabout anywhere in NZ first class pro rugby, no matter how good they may be, because there will be 100 equally good players but who work hard. They will get the job ahead of the lazy man.

And they simply can’t sneak into the team on the back of some or other “race quota” as you may be able to do in South Africa. Merit is the ONLY criterion.

]]> By: CSI:Rugby http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26336 CSI:Rugby Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:13:53 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26336 Bliksem, with an unemployment rate of 3.2%in NZ, the lowest in the developed world and you call Islanders lazy, thats a very big call coming from u mate. get the facts and then comment.

]]> By: bliksem http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26153 bliksem Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:53:53 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-26153 Dingman I would “slaan till” in NZ.They make good monet.So its not degrading.Have you ever met a till slaner in NZ?I have.

]]> By: wls http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25820 wls Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:42:58 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25820 And yet STM is still missing LMFAO.
Hes a bigger tospot than Tacklballs.

best quote i have ever read “once and EMPIRE now an ISLAND” ha ha

]]> By: Dingman http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25761 Dingman Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:13 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25761 So Bliksem you consider it to be degrading to “slaan till”? And YOU call Tackler a d**s?! Unbelievable

]]> By: kiwi http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25755 kiwi Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:08:54 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25755 Ollie

I think by “free fall” they’re referring as much England’s decreasing points as their ranking.

]]> By: bliksem http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25752 bliksem Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:02:43 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25752 Tackler on grounds of what do you say they dont have a chance.Lots of good sportsman are lazy to work but not to train.Moet jy nie anyway jou vrou wat till slaan by die Pak n Save gaan optel na haar skof nie?Doos.

]]> By: TheTackler http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25714 TheTackler Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:51:29 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25714 “Islanders come over to NZ and within a couple of months they are eligable for the dole.Its a lot of money aand they even send money back home.Lots of them are lazy and live of the dole and dont work at all.”

Not one of these bone-idle layabouts has even the smallest chance of making it into the All Black team, do they? So what’s your point?

]]> By: Duiwel http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25712 Duiwel Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:25:55 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25712 Love it,crash and burn.
Arrogant ****.

]]> By: YoMama http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25675 YoMama Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:25:05 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25675 Down a pom, feel satisfied!

]]> By: Ollie http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25666 Ollie Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:12:01 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25666 On the 06 Feb they moved from 5th to 3rd and have just moved back again over a 3 week period.

]]> By: Ollie http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25665 Ollie Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:00 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25665 “Poms in free fall”
Uuummm, let me get this straight, the Poms are currently in 5 th position! Okay, everything is still fine.

Last week the Poms were in….. 5th position! Ok, I see a pattern here.

A few weeks ago the Poms were in …. 5th position !?

Free fall??????? What free fall??????

]]> By: DubShark http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25619 DubShark Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:15:08 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25619 But cut the players salaries and how many will we lose to the clubs in europe?
how about streamlining the admin side of things where we seem to have alot of staff doing nothing or worse wrecking things.

]]> By: Dawn http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25609 Dawn Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:06:20 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25609 Amen.

]]> By: carcass http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25603 carcass Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:02:11 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25603 I bet you we will see results. This brother/brother scenario must change, get academies up and running ,with good facilities, create a positive,healthy enviroment and we all will benefit.
I know rugby went pro, but that kind of money on top of salaries and endorsements is frightening.
Then again if you get injured your carreer might be over.

Thanks for your time and insights.
Gotta go to a meeting.
Cheers mate.

]]> By: bliksem http://keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25593 bliksem Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:55:38 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/2006/03/14/poms-in-free-fall/#comment-25593 carcass SaRugby doesnt put enough money into grassroots and clubrugby.Lets cut the Boks salaries and use that money for grassroots and clubs.I mean the Bokke was paid R1 mill each as a bonus by van Rooyen.How far can 22 mil go if give to grassroots and club rugby.Clubs cant afford to pay R30 000 p/m for a good overseas coach.They simply havent got the money.What will a coach from NZ bring to a club?A shitload.Coaching structeres and a academy will be put in place.

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