Oldies light up Jake’s life
27 Mar 2006
Jake White is not down about the South African experience in this season’s Vodacom Super 14. He’s delighted because the oldies are showing the desire to make a change.
White told Keo.co.za that he always expects young players to go the extra mile in a competition like the Super 14. When the older brigade can make a difference, then you know you’ve got something going for you.
“I am not taking away anything from a younger player, who does well, but history has proved time and again that it is easier to make an impression in the first year, but a lot harder to sustain it in years two through to 10. So far this season I’ve been encouraged by the older guys. And they’ve showed the value of experience in this competition.”
It has further convinced White that his squad identification, for the most, is spot on and that it would take an extraordinary young talent to break into his squad 18 months out from the 2007 World Cup.
“When I took over as Bok coach I picked a very young squad that should reach its apex at the World Cup 2007. That’s when the cycle of that squad should be at its most potent. The key is to introduce in a subtle way that by 2008 a lot has changed but you don’t even notice it. That is why we have put an emphasis on 30-odd players for the last two seasons. We’re still not where the All Blacks are, in that they can pick two different teams and be equally effective, but we’ve made advances in the last two years,” said White.
“I have been very impressed with the older brigade at the Sharks. Johan Ackermann and Albert van den Berg have made it easier for a talent like Johan Muller to come through. AJ Venter has been very good this season, which has allowed Ruan Pienaar to slot in at No 9 between him and the All Black veteran Tony Brown. JP Pietersen has had the benefit of playing with experience around him. And John Smit’s impact has been immediate with the Sharks.
“The Cats have struggled as a team, but individually there have been good performances. Again it is the older players who are standing tallest, when you think of Wikus van Heerden and Klein-Jan Tromp, in particular. The Bulls have played and succeeded where expected, while the Cheetahs have proved a determined and successful outfit. The biggest disappointment has been the Stormers, but they do have four weeks on the road that they can turn into a challenge. They have the players to do so.
“In short, I am not discouraged. I think this Super 14 has highlighted the value of older players and consistency in selection.”
White, in recent seasons, has been under pressure to pick any youngster who has enjoyed one decent season. He has resisted on each occasion and for the most has been vindicated.
A year ago the country’s media and couch critics were urging him to select Morne Steyn and Willem de Waal. Now neither can make their respective Super 14 run-on XVs.
A year ago Smit’s shares were questioned, but in the interim no hooker has shown himself to be of similar pedigree when you take all aspects of hooker player.
And so it goes on. No flyhalf has impressed more than Jaco van der Westhuyzen and Andre Pretorius did for the Boks last year and few youngsters have made enough of a challenge to oust the senior national squad players.
Realistically, Ruan Pienaar has been the strongest of the challengers, but do you pick him ahead of Fourie du Preez, Ricky Januarie or Bolla Conradie — the three preferred halfbacks of the last two seasons.
The Ndungane twins have had their moments on the wing, but do you select them ahead of a Jaque Fourie, Bryan Habana or Breyton Paulse? These are some of the questions that White will answer with his first squad selection. The answer, though, would seem obvious. You won’t take them ahead of what he already has.
So far the competition has affirmed White’s national selections, when perhaps he would have hoped for a few more individual displays that questioned them.
166 Comments
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27 Mar 2006, 14:47 pm
Agreed, but your paper columnists and tv guys are quick to sing other players praises. Look at Simnikiwe Xabanisa’s veiled attemp at getting debate around Johan Roets going.
I dont even hear guys like Stransky praising Watson for his work rate. Also, is it ok for a coach to ignore a player simply because he thinks he wont be effective if in the same team as player B.
JW is a wa.nker of note!!!
27 Mar 2006, 14:48 pm
rowwe een daai stan,maar heel normaal daar onder in die kaap.ek dink net daai manne jaag die donkies.
27 Mar 2006, 14:57 pm
wpw, maar jy het mos erken dat jy n liefdevolle kerel is….
27 Mar 2006, 14:58 pm
Rudebud,
Bit of a catch 22 for the ANC. The EC will field black players, but if the Stormers get relegated, out go half the black playing base in SA with them. The only logical thing to do would be to relegate the Bulls and dilute their all white side with the blacks in the EC.
27 Mar 2006, 15:01 pm
Best thing is to dissolve the Cats. They are a real disgrace for SA rugby.
27 Mar 2006, 15:05 pm
Bliksem & Rudebud: My date went very well, took her to the five flies in town had dinner, chatted about lots of things. there were a few hints that she might of liked me. We left and just as I was about to pull up outside her flat I was expecting to hear ok thanks for great eve good night ***. But no, she said you can park there. Would you like to come up for some tea or coffee?? Dam right i do. Went upstairs she made me tea and we chatted for a while and then I thought well I might as well try!! then we kissed, cuddled & spoke for 2 hours then I left. I tried to put my hands on her chest puppies but she said later for that. Atleast I know she wants to go further at a later stage. No *** on the first date, She is a nice girl and I have respect for her. Not your normal **** one night stand…
Just thought I would let you guys know…
27 Mar 2006, 15:05 pm
stan, lief vir my aanstaande vrou ja. nie vir mans nie…my naam is nie bigg nie.
27 Mar 2006, 15:07 pm
bigg goeie move om iets tertry anders het sy dalk gedink jy is ***.relax I will talk you through this one.ek sal jou lei pappie.vertrou my net,doen net wat ek se.
27 Mar 2006, 15:13 pm
bigg, baie dankie vir daardie brokkie nuttelose info.
Fok, dit klink amper asof jy terugvoering vir die Hoekie vir Eensames gee…
27 Mar 2006, 15:15 pm
LMAO stan. hehehe
hoekie vir eensames…
27 Mar 2006, 15:15 pm
Stan so volgens pierre is ek in my vroee twenties.Ja pierre daai 3 ure plus opfok wat Maj Pretoruis vir ons daar by die ou skietmuur en Celeno gegee het was net die mees badste realistiese droom wat ek al ooit gehad het.
27 Mar 2006, 15:16 pm
I know this is a rugby site but has anybody got the words that flowed between Adam Gilchrest and Andre Nel. they seemed to have quite a heated exchange
27 Mar 2006, 15:18 pm
Bigg nice one, now im sitting here all by my lonesome in Nairobi, thinking hmmm what the hell am i going to do for another week by myself LMFAO.
27 Mar 2006, 15:27 pm
hhhmmm … bigg in for bigg suprise on 2nd date.
But that is what you get for shopping on ###############
27 Mar 2006, 15:28 pm
WLS – A man has gotta do what a man has gotta do, WPW if you know what is best for you, you better stop taking the piss out of me!!!!!!!!!! I will see you one day
27 Mar 2006, 15:29 pm
slient I dont even want to see what sites you have on your favourites list.
27 Mar 2006, 15:30 pm
Zulu
Reading the last posts , this looks more like a Huisegenoot/ Voorblad site. I wish people would stick to Rugby or Cricket for once
27 Mar 2006, 15:31 pm
bigg I hope for your sake she isnt one of those chicks that sends a thousand text messages a day.that irritates me senseless.
27 Mar 2006, 15:37 pm
capebull there is more to life than sport.
27 Mar 2006, 15:39 pm
Bliksem no,I am the one doing all the work here pal. I am working it ******* hard.
27 Mar 2006, 15:41 pm
bigg are you atleast getting some positive response.please dont tell me you are one of those nice guys because if you are she will suck you dry,and not in the way that you want.
27 Mar 2006, 15:42 pm
Bigg
Well done ! Next time she invites you up, you show her the BigBazooka. Give her a thing to mull over…
27 Mar 2006, 15:44 pm
Big as sy voor jou buk dan moet jy so in haar oor vir haar fluister:Meisie as jy weer so voor my buk gaan jy moet pram koop.
27 Mar 2006, 15:45 pm
LMAO @ bliksem…
27 Mar 2006, 15:46 pm
wpw, daai klink vir my na n direkte uitdaging.
Gaan slyp jou mes….
27 Mar 2006, 15:46 pm
bigg tell her that you are still a virgin.
27 Mar 2006, 15:49 pm
The scene:bigg and the dollie on the couch.So bigg tell me something that I dont know.
Bigg:Well you will be amazed people in Hong Kong actually play rugby.
27 Mar 2006, 15:51 pm
bigg, voor jy verder na al die wyse raad luister: Hoe lyk die pa en die broers?
Dit kan n groot verskil aan jou eie oorlewing maak…
27 Mar 2006, 15:55 pm
n clubrugby buddy van my het op skool 3 vriende gehad wat nog nooit n girl gesoen het nie.Hlle was so in St8.Any way man wat hy is vat hy hulle toe na sy doll se huis toe.Hy gaan toe eerste in die kamer in waar sy is.Anyway kom uit na n ruk en laat die manne een vie een ingaan vir hulle eerste french kiss.Toe al 3 haar klaar gevry het toe vra hy met so n groot smile op sy gesig:So manne hoe proe ek?
27 Mar 2006, 16:02 pm
Stan you will be happy to know that she is infact afrikaans…
27 Mar 2006, 16:02 pm
Bigg lmfao i assume your name is the opposite to your physical apperance in the real world ha ha.
Dude im not ***** so please dont threaten to see me one day, cause thats horribly ***.
27 Mar 2006, 16:04 pm
Bliksem – LOL re hong kong ****.
I might have to show her my Bigg…
27 Mar 2006, 16:05 pm
HA HA Bigg **** did i read your post wrong bwhahahahaha forgive me lmao.
Good luck with the chic, ill be sitting in a room ll by my lonesome thinking of you scoring ha ha.
27 Mar 2006, 16:06 pm
show her your bigg what?stamp collection?
27 Mar 2006, 16:07 pm
wls is daar nie dolle daar nie?
27 Mar 2006, 16:09 pm
I really rate Akona N, his boet still has some serious work to do.
Pienaar IS better than Bolla, as is FDP,Ricky and Davidson (on reputation). FDP is starting to worry me though. He’s not the player he was in 2004/05 (he needs to up his tempo).
27 Mar 2006, 16:09 pm
Bliksem
Don’t slag Bigg; think he’s done great so far. Now help the ouk with some of your famous Karma Bliksem Sutra tips you so successfuly employ at Flamingo’s…
27 Mar 2006, 16:10 pm
Rude what is Flamingo’s?
27 Mar 2006, 16:11 pm
bigg,
ek weet sy is afrikaans, jy het ons mos verlede week vertel hier op Keo se hoekie vir eensames.
maar jy het die regte idee. spyker die rook uit die engelse meisies, en dan trou jou vir jou n ordentlike boere nooi.
27 Mar 2006, 16:12 pm
Stan as ek voor julle by n dol was gaan daar nie baie kompressie vir julle manne wees nie.
27 Mar 2006, 16:13 pm
Bliksem
Skuus ek’s deurmekaar met die ou Limelight ! Wat is die klub se naam nou ?
27 Mar 2006, 16:14 pm
wls,
ja, ek wil ook weet hoekom kan jy nie n meisie daar in Nairobi kry nie. Dis mos hoekom die plek se naam Naai robi is. Daar is mos baie meisies.
Jy sien tog nie op hulle neer omdat hulle swart is nie?
27 Mar 2006, 16:15 pm
Stan – Afrikaans girls are better, more honest & trustworthy than english CPT girls. English chicks piss me off. If all goes well I will have to brush up on my afrikaans. It should improve in no time. As you know my afrikaans is soooo kuk…
27 Mar 2006, 16:16 pm
rude ek het nie i idee nie.ek gaan nie na strip clubs toe nie.dis teen my beginsels,dis n handige alternatief vit ouens soos julle wat sukkel met die dolle.Maar ek het wel n episode met n stripper gehad by n bierfees toe ek onder 21 klubrugbt gespeel het.
27 Mar 2006, 16:16 pm
Julle begin nou te klink soos n span skoolseuns wat kompeteer oor wie die grootste bonganer het…
27 Mar 2006, 16:16 pm
Rudebud I wont take advice from Bliksem then I will **** it all up… LOL take no offence bliksem
27 Mar 2006, 16:17 pm
se hom stan.bruinsuiker is mos ook soet.
27 Mar 2006, 16:17 pm
Wls
50% girls in Nairobi het Aids, die ander 50 % TB. So, as hulle hoes kan jy hulle spyker !
27 Mar 2006, 16:20 pm
Bliksem
In Pretoria oppad na Farm Inn toe, op linkerkant is daar ‘n moerse groot klub. Ek dink dit was voorheen Limelight. Fok, was so lank gelede wat ek in Pretoria gebly het, kan nie lekker onthou wat die plek se naam is nie !
27 Mar 2006, 16:20 pm
bigg, Dont be too hard on the English girls in CT. Its because they are not used to men.
No matter how bad you Afrikaans is, just as long as you are willing to talk it, we are happy.
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