Comments on: ‘No guarantees’ warns Bok selector

By: Edwill

Edwill — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:49:47 +0000

You guys make like Jake White is really going to shock the world by throwing out all the players his been sticking with. Yes, there’s a lot of Stormers but those are all Jakes Boks. If memory serves me correct, Tonderai Chavanga has an impeccable record under Jake and Nokwe was cited exclusively by Jake, so yes he’d pick him. Also, they are 2 of the 3 fastest men in the country. Jake did say he needs speed out wide.

Why not try Corne, we certainly can do with a fresh, strong approach. Rassie’s not doing too bad. For a man you guys ridicule, Corne Krige has been the one guy New Zealand commentators always talk about. Him and Anton Leonard.

By: Skim

Skim — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:53 +0000

Piet Visagie as defence coach and Campese as Backs coach.
Here’s my team:
15. Greef
14. Akona Ndugane
13. Jaques Fourie
12. Jean De Villiers
11. Habana
10. Pretoruis
9. Januarie
8. AJ Venter
7. Juan Smith
6. Schala
5. Matfield
4. Bakkies
3. CJ
2. Gary
1. OS

16.Guthro
17.Schalk Brits
18.Skeate/Danie Rossouw
19.Pedrie Wannenburg
20.Ruan Pienaar
21.Jakes Van der Westhuizen
22.Jantjies/Giscard Pieters/Snyman

As well as guys like Sowerby/Jaques Cronje/Solly/John Smit/Corniel van Zyl/BJ Botha ect ect.

By: boeja

boeja — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:57:55 +0000

david
ill take bekker before skeate buddie.very tight player skeate not doing any agressive work only getting his own ball thats about it.

i think marius didnt play well against chiefs because jean did not play well.he did not create anything for his partner and his defence still leaves a ?

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:07:22 +0000

Cab
Bekker’s beginning to remind me a bit of his old man who tended to drift in and out of games. I was very impressed last year when he seemed to be a lot more aggressive and enthusiastic.
Naas Olivier interests me. He has the talent but he also has the confidence to back himself on attack. At the moment he seems to be someone to invest in.

By: cab

cab — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:39:10 +0000

David,

yip the 3 best 10′s seem to be JW’s current pick, but certainly nothing inspiring. dont think hougie, grant, de waal, steyn, olivier are even close. quite a worry. also agree that 1′s cnnot be converted to 3′s, other way around maybe, but cant compromise on a scrumaging 3.

you rate Skeate then? prefer becker myself?

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:20:58 +0000

Our S14 flyhalf situation is a total mess with only the Sharks and Cats having a player that’s their first choice and Brown isn’t even a South African.
The other teams can’t seem to make up their minds who their first choice is.
It’s all very well talking about rotating players but do the Cheetahs, Bulls and Stormers really believe that they’ve got 2 number 10s of equal quality?
Until these sides decide what sort of rugby they want to play as a team we’ll continue to create flyhalfs who’ll be more focussed on trying to be what the coach wants them to be than on developing their own unique talents.

By: rastafox

rastafox — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:06:36 +0000

10 is crucial and as you point out David if we can’t settle on a player at CC level and what pattern they should play,how on earth will we have a top international player by the WC.It seems we have a lot of wunder-kind players in the mix,but none stamping their authority.

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:56:48 +0000

Cab
I agree with you there although we should stop trying to convert traditional looseheads into tightheads so late in their career.
10 is also a problem that’s made worse by the CC sides being unable to decide what they require in a flyhalf.
At least AJ has shown that he can provide cover for Bakkies whilst Skeate was developing well until his injury.

By: cab

cab — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:26:53 +0000

also a powerful wing to complement Habana would not go amiss, especially with the loss of Willemse.

By: cab

cab — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:26:12 +0000

true David, just picking a theoretical team, anyway think we have better in SA, just talent is spread a bit thin.

Sauwerby and Vos are very good, but we have plenty of very good loosies. The current bok squad lacks depth at 3, 4 and 10. what u reckon?

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:55:12 +0000

Cab
I think we’re looking for players who are eligible for the Boks otherwise we could include Vickerman and Rawlinson.

By: cab

cab — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:31:55 +0000

rasta, not a bad squad you’ve assmebled, also think Hottie Louw went to play overseas.

Some good SA centers in Luscombe (Wales) and Abbott (Poms).

By: rastafox

rastafox — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:02:18 +0000

cab

OVERSEAS based players!!!!!

By: rastafox

rastafox — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:01:31 +0000

David

Scratching the bottom of the overseas barrel for that one!!!

I think there is still the former Natal lock Strudwig playing in the UK,a better choice!!!

By: cab

cab — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:54:50 +0000

yip, wonder what they’re thinking:

3. BJ Botha 8. P3/Sauwerby 9. Pienaar 10.? 14. Snyman 15. JP Pietersen.

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:42:40 +0000

Rasta
Q. Davids!?

By: rastafox

rastafox — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:24:49 +0000

Talking of overseas based players how is this line-up:
P.Barnard
D.Coetzee
C.Visagie
Q.Davids
S.Boome
J.Boer
A.Vos
S.Sowerby

J.Viljoen
J.v/d Westhysen
T.Delport
C.Stoltz
A.Snyman
????????
B.Paulse

By: bigg

bigg — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:20:43 +0000

Guys lets just face it! SA Rugby is KUK…

By: rastafox

rastafox — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:20:18 +0000

Forgot about Pieters he has played well and Sowerby has always been under-rated.Snyman is desperately needed to shore up our under-performing centres.I believe Jake Boer might get a look-in too.

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:14:10 +0000

Ratafox
Remember that Andre Snyman and Sowerby are also in the mix according to Jake. The one player who’s really impressed, this year, is Giscard Pieters.