Chiliboy is Jake’s Bok bolter
26 Apr 2006
Blue Bulls Vodacom Cup hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle will be the shock inclusion in the enlarged Springbok squad announced on 13 May.
Bok coach Jake White told Die Burger’s Herbert Pretorius that he wants to invite the 19-year-old hooker to the Boks’ training camp in Bloemfontein. He is even considering including Ralepelle for the Bok team to play against Scotland.
Ralepelle’s inclusion means that neither Gary Botha nor Schalk Brits will be in the extended squad. John Smit and Hanyani Shimange are White’s top two hookers at the moment.
“I have no say in the compilation of South Africa’s Super 14 teams and that’s why it’s not my fault that he isn’t playing for the Bulls,” said the coach. “Chiliboy has proven himself at U19 and U21 level and I believe he’s good enough to repeat his performance at senior level. Remember that the hooker he played against in last year’s U21 World Cup final is the Australian Tatafu Polota-Nau, who has already played Test rugby for the Wallabies.”
Ralepelle played in both the U19 and the U21 World Championship victories. He was also named SA Rugby’s U19 player of the year.
“I’d like to see how he performs in a team with big locks, for example, Bakkies Botha and Johan Ackermann behind him and big props like Os du Randt and CJ van der Linde alongside him in the scrums. I’m sure he’ll cope,” White said.
White said Brits, who has been the Stormers first-choice hooker this year, would have to work harder on his scrumming technique and line-out throw-ins.
“At Test level you want a hooker who excels in those two facets and not as much someone who can run well with the ball in hand,†he said. “I must experiment with several new players and combinations, because I can’t possibly select my strongest possible team for all 12 Tests.”
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26 Apr 2006, 09:32 am
i can already hear Britz packing his bags!
26 Apr 2006, 09:34 am
note how jake mentions ackermann, interesting.
26 Apr 2006, 09:34 am
Stucky – Britz can pack – but can never play against the Boks as he has pleyd for SA A
What Jake also said:
“I’d like to see how he performs in a team with big locks, for example, Bakkies Botha and Johan Ackermann behind him and big props like Os du Randt and CJ van der Linde alongside him in the scrums. I’m sure he’ll cope,” White said.
By saying this, the Bok coach hinted that a veteran like Ackermann (the 35-year-old lock who last played Test rugby in 2001) has a good chance to be included in the Bok squad.
“I will give serious consideration to include Johan Ackermann and BJ Botha (the Sharks tighthead). The Sharks have, as far as I’m concerned, the best tight five in the Super 14 at present. They made the Blues tight five, comprising several incumbent All Blacks, look quite ordinary on Saturday.”
White says he is looking for one or two players with attitude in his squad and that is why Andre Snyman will be given a chance to show what he can do.
“My message to Andre is going to be quite clear. I’m looking for an experienced guy with an attitude. He can add a lot of value to a team.
“We’ve seen it with Monty (Percy Montgomery) and Os. Perhaps they’re not playing the best rugby of their careers, but they still succeed in getting the best out of players around them.”
With Ralepelle on White’s short-list, it does not seem as if the Stormers first-choice hooker, Schalk Brits, forms part of White’s plans.
When White was asked what he thought of the on-form Brits, he said the mobile hooker should work even harder on his scrumming technique and lineout throw-ins.
“At Test level you want a hooker who excels in those two facets and not as much someone who can run well with the ball in hand.”
White emphasised that this year would be decisive to determine whether the Boks would do well at next year’s Rugby World Cup.
“I must experiment with several new players and combinations, because I can’t possibly select my strongest possible team for all 12 Tests.
“If I do that, all our best players will suffer from burn-out in 2007 and then we can forget about winning the World Cup. Hopefully the rugby public will understand this.”
26 Apr 2006, 09:34 am
white wants to select a bull !
26 Apr 2006, 09:37 am
White is going to ruin his future.
He is far too young and already has a bad knee.
26 Apr 2006, 09:37 am
Not a bad bolter to pick !
26 Apr 2006, 09:40 am
I still think 19 is too young for an international front row forward.
26 Apr 2006, 09:42 am
i rate chilibooi!and i also think ackerman could ad great value to the tight 5!
def a player for the future.
what JW is doing,his got his players for 2007,his taking in very young talent to grow them into the future for 2011 and after!
26 Apr 2006, 09:42 am
britz can’t complain. there are definite shortcomings with his [hooker] game. if he really ever wants to play for boks he must prove he can do the basics-there is till plenty of time for him to work on this.
26 Apr 2006, 09:42 am
burger was 19,the year after that he was player of the world!!
26 Apr 2006, 09:43 am
Well Stan – if he has a bad knee they can just as well get the best out of him while he can still run.
Anyway, with Smit being captain, and 1st choice hooker – for a few years he might just do what Shimagne did – accumulate caps at the same rates of minutes on the field – 9 caps – 9 minutes in total?
26 Apr 2006, 09:44 am
To be honest i have not seen enough of Ralepelle to formulate my own opinion. Grooming the next captain maybe!
26 Apr 2006, 09:45 am
Man, to be H Shimangi, what a life that guy has.
26 Apr 2006, 09:46 am
Does this mean Shimagne is out of the picture. Was he just a quota!
26 Apr 2006, 09:46 am
Ja Londonsark – it’s Jorrie-esque!
26 Apr 2006, 09:47 am
think they want chilibooi to get into the set up!
think its a great idea!
26 Apr 2006, 09:48 am
I doubt White will play him (CR), he’s too young for an international rows. He just wants give him Bok exposure.
26 Apr 2006, 09:48 am
stucky,
that “zipper-sound” is Britz zipping his carry-on for Flight BA 12454 to London.
But i can’t see him leaving – he’s got much to offer and he will become a bok this year.
On the other thread i’ve already posted about CB’s bad knee and i think he’s still to young to take on the forwards in the big league.
He’s not a wing he’s the middle man of all the pressure.
And now he’s injured again! So we’ll definately have to be very selective with him because he’ll become a great player in future.
I think i can see Jakes problem because Shimange is utterly to big a carthorse to make the side.
Maybe he must call back the man mountain – Dale Stanton. I think Dale will consider a good offer – but only if it’s very good.
26 Apr 2006, 09:51 am
we have got enough hookers in bok side now JW is looking for the future!
maybe he must do this in all positions! take young players into the squad and some more expiercend ones
26 Apr 2006, 09:53 am
this reminds me of when Harry Viljoen picked Fracois Swart for a training camp and the whole country blew their nut with his audacity.
Personally I think its great. Everyone has noted Chilliboys potential, and the fact he will become a bok regular in years to come. So why not introduce him to the culture, the team and some of the best players in the country who can only further help develop him.
I’d be very worried if Jake started him in the tri-nations, but would welcome any inclusion in an expanded 45 man squad. Perhaps Jake could also look at a youngster like Pierre Spies who will undoubteduly be a bok one day too. I am convinced he’s going to pick Pienaar, and would be very disapointed if he does not.
I think Jake has a problem with Britz, much like he has with Watson. These okes will never be good enough for him, and that is quite good for WP.
26 Apr 2006, 09:53 am
chiliboy will be captain one day … i have no doubt
26 Apr 2006, 09:54 am
Post #13 & #15,
Or possibly Greef-esque or even more possibly Gus-esque?
26 Apr 2006, 09:55 am
i would also go with spies for a loosie!
maybe jd moller for tight!
26 Apr 2006, 09:59 am
Saffa-guy – ja, maybe Gusque – but Greeff showed his worth – even if only for one season.
26 Apr 2006, 10:00 am
If you good enough your old enough.
Chilliboy clears figures in JW’s post RWC plans.I doubt he will be given game time before that.
This is something like Nowke being picked for the EPYT 2004.The lad is being given the chance to wet his legs before being pushed to the deep end in test level.
Yes, he needs more expereince at S14 and CC level and pay his dues before he gets the call.BUT,what better way to learn than from the likes of Os,Smit and CJ ?
26 Apr 2006, 10:00 am
Now I am realy confused. When Meyer played Chillyboy at the beginning of the S14 everyone was crying fault that HM ruining younr boy’s carriere. Now he is accused of not giving him enough game time. May be he would have got more if not injured. But people I really can not understand what bulls must do to sutisfy Bok’s management. Jacke White is so anti-bulls.
26 Apr 2006, 10:00 am
munkiboi – we shouldn’t get carried away with picking the youngsters – but if we are – Hilton Lobberts – he surely must be the next Andre Venter.
26 Apr 2006, 10:01 am
As long as Ruan Pienaar is in, I’m happy.
The fact that he can play 10 will be the deciding factor because Jake WILL NOT drop a quota (Bolla) for a white player, nor will he drop the two Boks starters (Ricky and FDP).
26 Apr 2006, 10:02 am
White’s motives are rather easy to explain.
He has copped a lot of flack for all the splinters that have gathered in Shimange’s arse.
White wants Smit on the field, yet he needs an extra black player on the bench. If he keeps Shimange there, however, the pressure piles up for him to give Shimange some game time.
By replacing Shimange with Ralapele, White solves both problems. He now has his extra quota on the bench, but he also has the perfect excuse to give the guy only a few minutes per game – he is “blooding the younster gradually” or “grooming him for future captaincy”.
In SA rugby it is never as simple as this guy is the best, so he gets the Bok spot. The politicians are to be thanked for that.
26 Apr 2006, 10:02 am
Ciccino, Jake won’t play him unless the Scotish front row consists of 3 blind Scotish hamsters.
He just wants to give him Bok exposure.
26 Apr 2006, 10:03 am
Tacitus, well said mate.
26 Apr 2006, 10:04 am
Jake must get his words in order. He says he will not select players who have not proved themselves at Super 14 for at least 2 seasons.
Now he picks Chilliboy.
I am not disputing the talents of Chilliboy but Jake cannot send out say 1 thing and do another
26 Apr 2006, 10:05 am
Scotland may have beaten England and France in the 6 Nations – but they didn’t do it in the scrums – they just tackled their hearts out (and spoiling ball in the wet). So the Scotland front row is not to fear that much.
26 Apr 2006, 10:09 am
We good enough good front row players
question: who would we like to see as the centers
26 Apr 2006, 10:10 am
coach,
jake actually also said that he is not picking the super14 sides so if he ‘could’ pick the teams it would be a diffrent team running on the field,not his fault HM is not picking him for super rugby.so he obviously watched his vodacom games!
26 Apr 2006, 10:11 am
wow dit was goeie english
26 Apr 2006, 10:12 am
Drunk ******, JDV and JF are our long term centers.
26 Apr 2006, 10:12 am
gecko – I am not suggesting pick them to play, or even pck them to the 30 man 3n squad. But Jake has proven his ability to recongnise the most talented players in the country, and comnine them with the odd form player here and there.
he knows which of the ‘form’ player are not good enough for test match rugby, and he wont pick them. in the same way pcik the youngsters to introduce them to the culture.
NZ and OZ do it ever year for their end of year tours. They pick kids (not always to play) we’ve never even seen or heard of in S12 and it clearly gives them an endge as it exposes them to top class rugby gently.
26 Apr 2006, 10:12 am
j.fourie
m.joubert
barry
jean
julies
young players:
cooke
barrit
olivier
dont know which one of the youngster will make it
26 Apr 2006, 10:15 am
Tacitus – only in SA would someone cosider criticising a coach for not picking a player who is 2nd choice to the captain.
Do you think the AB coach used to get criticised for leaving poor old Norm Hewitt on the bench and playing Sean Fitzpatrick all the time?
Shimmie is not the first hooker to get splinters, and he will not be the last. Jake should feel no good reason to give him game time, other than to rest his captain. National interests come first. Simple.
26 Apr 2006, 10:16 am
Drunkmonkey – JdV at 12, Schalk Britz at 13, JF at wing with Habana. Long term – Conrad Jantjes at 15. Hell, while I’m at it, my backline:
9 Pienaar
10 No wiat, I’ll play Pienaar at ten, till a better 10 comes along, then move Pienaar to 9.
So:
9: Januarie
10: Pienaar
11: Habana
12: JdV
13: Schalk Britz (ja slate me – but he can step and tackle)
14: Fourie
15: Jantjes
26 Apr 2006, 10:16 am
Coach. Coach? Jake CAN send out say 1 thing and do another.
He just did. Maybe he changed his mind.
26 Apr 2006, 10:18 am
A Poms called Graham Dawe sat on the bench for something like 8 season – only got 4 caps during time – as he couldn’t lift Brian Moore from the hooking spot. Why? Moore was better 0 simple as that.
Bit like Whittaker for Oz
26 Apr 2006, 10:19 am
Chilli is not being used properly. He is good enough to be getting game time in any of the S14 squads and he should be seeing more time on the park. JW is forward thinking enough to realise how good this kid could be, but must be frustrated that he isn’t being given the opportunity to play.
I’d rather he was included in the Bok squad and got limited game time against the “weaker” sides than just have him warming the bench or playing Vodacom cup. The WC is a year and a bit away and he needs to start mixing it up with the big boys. Nobody is suggesting he play every Tri Nations match. 19 year olds in NZ and Aus are called up when they are good enough, not when they are old enough.
26 Apr 2006, 10:20 am
Gecko, I will Slate you.
Keo also had the moronic idea to play him at 12/13. The guy is a HOOKER!! He’s a special hooker because of his pace and great skills, but move him into the midfield and he becomes an average sized center with ‘good’ skills.
26 Apr 2006, 10:21 am
Anybody got a list of the player selected ?
26 Apr 2006, 10:21 am
boeja – Cooke looks good, but I dont think hes big enough for Jake to pick at centre. Maybe wing, but politics dictate we’re likely to see black wingers only. I’d like him to pick Olivier though.
Otherwise no centres have had enough of an impact to dislodge the incumbents, despite their relatively poor form.
26 Apr 2006, 10:23 am
On form and/or experience.
9 Ruan
10 Jaco
11 Habana
12 JDV
13 JF
14 Chavanga (we need 2 quick wings)
15 Percy
26 Apr 2006, 10:23 am
Londonshark – from your name I gather you live in the UK as well – so you must have the same problem as me – we don’t see all the games – therefor we only hear about Britz when he breaks the line etc.
But if you read the match reports, or the online papers, or listen to RSG to the Stormers games, you realise the guy can’t hit his jumpers in the lineout, and can’t scrum (remember – he will be up against strong scrummaging hookers like Meulamu and Thompson). I agree, the guy is a talent, but not at hooker. Maybe flank, but more likely centre.
26 Apr 2006, 10:24 am
I’m confused, I know Keo didn’t write the article but someone at Keo came up with the headline. On News24, Keo says Pierre Spies, should be Jake’s Bolter?
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