Chiliboy is Jake’s Bok bolter
26 Apr 2006
Blue Bulls Vodacom Cup hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle will be the shock inclusion in the enlarged Springbok squad announced on 13 May.
Bok coach Jake White told Die Burger’s Herbert Pretorius that he wants to invite the 19-year-old hooker to the Boks’ training camp in Bloemfontein. He is even considering including Ralepelle for the Bok team to play against Scotland.
Ralepelle’s inclusion means that neither Gary Botha nor Schalk Brits will be in the extended squad. John Smit and Hanyani Shimange are White’s top two hookers at the moment.
“I have no say in the compilation of South Africa’s Super 14 teams and that’s why it’s not my fault that he isn’t playing for the Bulls,” said the coach. “Chiliboy has proven himself at U19 and U21 level and I believe he’s good enough to repeat his performance at senior level. Remember that the hooker he played against in last year’s U21 World Cup final is the Australian Tatafu Polota-Nau, who has already played Test rugby for the Wallabies.”
Ralepelle played in both the U19 and the U21 World Championship victories. He was also named SA Rugby’s U19 player of the year.
“I’d like to see how he performs in a team with big locks, for example, Bakkies Botha and Johan Ackermann behind him and big props like Os du Randt and CJ van der Linde alongside him in the scrums. I’m sure he’ll cope,” White said.
White said Brits, who has been the Stormers first-choice hooker this year, would have to work harder on his scrumming technique and line-out throw-ins.
“At Test level you want a hooker who excels in those two facets and not as much someone who can run well with the ball in hand,†he said. “I must experiment with several new players and combinations, because I can’t possibly select my strongest possible team for all 12 Tests.”
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26 Apr 2006, 11:19 am
Brickwall,
Chilli-boy is getting the big locks due to his age. At 19 he still has physical development to undergo.
Schalk is at his prime so aint gonna get much stronger and cannot throw straight.
26 Apr 2006, 11:20 am
Brickwall,
it makes sense, but JW has body types that he chooses positions from, and maybe RP will be a little on the small side. I also think he needs to be a bit closer to the action.
26 Apr 2006, 11:21 am
gecko, *****, cleaning out ackerman, no mean feet.
i watched him play in the u19 world cup and he looked brilliant, tough and mature beyond his years, but i cant believe he can raise the massive leap to test level? Anyway, maybe Jake has a point, if he’s surrounded by props like Os, CJ, Bakkies and Ackers.
Who gets dropped Shimage or Botha?
26 Apr 2006, 11:22 am
Bluebarb
I don’t think Pienaar is as small as you think. He is taller than Percy and he probably weigh the same. I do however agree that one should have him involved in the game. At the mo it looks like January and Du preez will be the top choices. Therefore I would try him at 15 to get him involved rather than not at all.
26 Apr 2006, 11:25 am
I reckon Chilli-Boy’s inclusion is more of a gradual introduction process more than anything else. Will get a few minutes here and there against the weaker nations but doubt whether he’ll be thrown in against the big guns.
26 Apr 2006, 11:25 am
cab
Surely both get dropped as Smit is our Captain and hooker.
26 Apr 2006, 11:25 am
Thats the problem Stink. It’s not that I want him to stick to his guns but to pick form players across the board, not because they played for him at age group level or last year.
Even worse stating it to a crowded room. If I had a boss and he told everybody what I earn, I’d be pissed.
26 Apr 2006, 11:25 am
Cab – get hold of the mag -1st issue – April I think – also drove BJ Botha back a mile according to article.
26 Apr 2006, 11:26 am
Cab – Shimange – no doubt. Botha is a lot younger – building for future.
26 Apr 2006, 11:28 am
Xkreni,
Consistency in selection is intergral to success. Form is temporary, class is permanent.
26 Apr 2006, 11:28 am
Spartacus,
I’m very happy for Chillyboy as I believe he is going to be a legend. He has to choose bulls players as they are the best in SA specially those comming trough bulls junior teams. My point is that JW hates bulls as a union he takes on them and HM every time possible. On sunday he was slamming HM for selecting BH on the wrong wing, but habana played at 11 the whole competition and once he is chosen at 14 in the team’s interest it was seen by JW as the bigges crime. But he never sais anything about Jaque furie playing wing or JDW playing our of his bok position for example. Again when chilyboi was playing for bulls in fabruary they were saying that it is wrong and this could ruin young boy. Now he is slaming HM for not giving enough time to Chilliboy. I really don’t anderstand this. Firs of all someone tell JW that Chilliboy is injured at the moment. Second, please tell him to be consistent in what he is saying.
26 Apr 2006, 11:29 am
Like Barry Saffa?
26 Apr 2006, 11:31 am
jondood, yeah but current squad has 3 hookers, if chilli comes in thats 4, surely got to drop 1?
gecko, yip, Botha offers something else, would prefer Chilli to Shimange. Yes, will try and get a hold of that publication, how do you buy that stuff in the UK? i went looking for SA rugby the other day, but the shops i went to, even the suposed suppliers, didn’t have it.
26 Apr 2006, 11:32 am
Xkreni,
If you do that, you will have a new Bok team every year, how do you want to win the world cup if you don’t have the guys play together for a couple of years?
When Jake took over, Strauli made 85 guys Boks. that’s ridiculous! Nobody can build on that!
In any case, wa all know that Jake doesn’t have any say in the S14. How can he drop a guy if he is playing ut of position in the S14? Take Schalk for instance, not a very good S14, but he is still our best bet at 6, although Fester is using him at 7. That’s not his game
26 Apr 2006, 11:32 am
Britz should just go now and play a few seasons in Europe and comeback when a new bok coach is appointed, cause it is clear he ain’t getting near a green jersey with Jake White as coach.
Stuff like lineouts, scrumagging and the like can be improved with pratice but pure ability cannot. In fact I recall a similar situation with a player by the name of Kevin Mealamu but in that case instead of writing him off he was helped to improve his weaknesses and is now probably the best hooker in the world, go figure.
26 Apr 2006, 11:34 am
Cab – I got it through the editor. They are still trying to sort their overseas subscription rate. Send me your e-mail and I can provide you with their subscription lady-s mail.
SA Rugby you can subscribe to from this site.
26 Apr 2006, 11:34 am
Mc Spyker, the truth hurts!
Gecko,sounds good. Where abouts is it?
26 Apr 2006, 11:35 am
st.petersburgbok,
i am a stormers supporter,but 1 of the reasons why they dont praise brits for his 7/7 throws is because skeate is a FRONT jumper the easiest throw in the line out,he cant reach bekker who is 2.08cm how is that possible?
i to like s.brits but he will ad no value to the boks because he does not fit in the game plan.we have enough hookers and chillibooi is picked fot the future!
26 Apr 2006, 11:36 am
London,
But remember, the truth you refer to is a is verrrrry subjective truth …
26 Apr 2006, 11:37 am
londonshark – East Dulwich – but be warned – jondood will probably have a lot to say – i just picked it as it’s close to home
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=533811&y=175125&z=0&ar=Y
26 Apr 2006, 11:37 am
gecko, ya problem is i’d prefer to go buy at a shop, since i’m likely to move from the current address. You dont know any shops in London that stock those mags, even at a premium?
26 Apr 2006, 11:38 am
Xkreni,
Stink replied before i could. Refer to post #114
26 Apr 2006, 11:39 am
Saffa_guy,maybe, but one cannot deny the fact that Bolla has ridden the crest of the quota wave for the past couple years.
IMO
26 Apr 2006, 11:39 am
cab – the SA shop in Embankment always had it
As for the SA rugby subscription – a guy called Keith sends it out from his Specsaver shop in Southfields/Wimbledon – I’ll bring his number in – maybe you can pick it up from his shop.
26 Apr 2006, 11:40 am
He was brilliant in 2002 but has fallen away ever since.
26 Apr 2006, 11:40 am
L-shark – that’s a bit harse – Bolla has been one of the better performers when in a Bok jersey. Not always in a WP jersey, but done well when picked for the Boks.
26 Apr 2006, 11:41 am
Everybody is going on as if he is a bok already. He has only been invited to the camp, that says nothing! Richard bands and Marius Hurter were also at last years training camp. If he gets selected for a test it’s a different case.
26 Apr 2006, 11:42 am
who says Botha or Shimange need to be dropped. You all miss the point completely and it astounds me.
Yes the article suggests it, but dont believe it for a second. Jake is picking 45 players. Not all 45 will get bok game time. This is not a difficult concept to grasp surely?
26 Apr 2006, 11:42 am
cab – you can subscribe and then change address if needs be – mail me details and i whip the subs dept in to shape !
26 Apr 2006, 11:42 am
cheers gecko, that shop in embankment is close, i’ll go along. that magazine “Rugbyworld South Africa”, also sounds good. Cant understand why the suppliers dont make these more available, got to be a decent market in London.
26 Apr 2006, 11:44 am
Stink
Iam not saying change the whole squad. Surely in positions where it is as clear as day you pick form players with class. Pienaar, Bj springs to mind. I am not saying if someone like Greef, Russel or Fortuin have a good game to pick them. I agree with consistency in seletion. But then the guys who consistently perform over a season and consistently outperform the incumbent also needs to come into the equation.
26 Apr 2006, 11:44 am
Anyone called Chiliboy gets the Langman vote…
Imagine him hooking between Knoffel du Randt and Kerrie Sephaka.
NOW THAT’S WHAT I WOULD CALL A SPICEY FRONT ROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
26 Apr 2006, 11:44 am
Gecko, you right, he has never let the Boks down but besides for 2002 he has never really added much either.
Having said that,he should have played against France last year (MC was aweful!!).
26 Apr 2006, 11:45 am
Further to post #126.
Aside from FPD and Januarie, I cannot think of any scrummies between 2002 – 2005 that were knocking down the door for Bok inclusion. They were all pretty average at best. Can’t even remember the name of that Falcons fella that got selected for the end of year tour.
26 Apr 2006, 11:47 am
Saffa guy, I though Craig Davidson was.
He was far and away the best scrummie in 2003 and right up there with FDP in 2004.
26 Apr 2006, 11:47 am
Xkreni,
To put your argument in clearer context and for my understanding, whom are the form players deserving of selection you believe have been overlooked?
PS: Asking this in a non-confrontational manner
26 Apr 2006, 11:47 am
saffa-guy – Deon de Kock – it was 2001 – I think Harry got it wrong, forgot Neil de Kock’s first name.
Of course every Natalian will say Davidson.
26 Apr 2006, 11:49 am
London,
Fair enuff. Craig was playing well and our opinions all differ.
26 Apr 2006, 11:49 am
Londonshark,
What about barry,joubert,gus,greef, joe,tiaan,jean devilliers etc? are they riding the wave at the top for the past few seasons? if your “whities”(seeing that you always refer to black players as quotas) are so brilliant why has Sa not cleaned out the 3 nations and world cups? maybe it is because they are kak! And I suppose Ntini is also a quota in your eyes? and gibbs and prince?
26 Apr 2006, 11:49 am
Gecko, Davidson was playing some brilliant rugga.
26 Apr 2006, 11:51 am
Gecko,
Yep, thats the fella. Quite a few strange selections in that period. Lotta “flash in the pan” players that just dissappeared. There was also a flank that WP bought (post his bok selection). Did not do anything special in a WP jersey tho …
26 Apr 2006, 11:51 am
Ig, can you redirect the mag to France? Will email.
26 Apr 2006, 11:51 am
Xkreni re 131
true, but take for instance CJ is there with 20 tests. by worldcup time he will have 40 tests. If you bring in BJ now and play him all the time he will have 20 test WC time. Then you sit with 2 props both having 20 test, playing agianst a guy who have 40 or 50 tests. That is a no win situation.
26 Apr 2006, 11:52 am
Mc Spyker.
You got a serious chip on your shoulder mate.
26 Apr 2006, 11:53 am
Saffa-guy – Pierre Uys – let’s not go there. Right up there with bizarre Bok selections like Botha Rossouw, Piet Pretorius, Phillip Schutte, Gus Theron (and more)
26 Apr 2006, 11:55 am
Being a retired left wing militant, reckon i’m well placed to officiate this match. In the left corner we have “MC Spyker” and in the right corner we have “London Shark”. Ring the bell!!!
PS: Pun intended …
26 Apr 2006, 11:56 am
Gecko, don’t forget some of Andre Margraaf’s selections. Who was that 12 he played (Eric Lubber or something)??
26 Apr 2006, 11:56 am
Saffa
Pienaar, Liebenberg, Bj Botha, Roets,Van Heerden,Ndugane brothers,Watson
Just think a backline of:
Jaco vd W/roets
O Ndugane
Brian Habanna
Jaque Fourie
A Ndugane
Pretorius/Jaco VdW
Pienaar
**** no Stormers?
26 Apr 2006, 11:57 am
Yip – shouldn’t be a problem !
26 Apr 2006, 11:57 am
Gecko,
Uuuugh, we’re re-awaking deeply suppressed bad, bad memories. SUBJECT CHANGE!
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