Roets on Irish shopping list
2 May 2006
Injured Bulls fullback Johan Roets may be lost to South African rugby entirely if he does not earn a call-up from Springbok coach Jake White this year.
Roets, arguably the form fullback in the country before a knee injury forced him out of action two weeks ago, has been knocking on the door of Springbok selection for some time, but as yet has not been let in.
But he may yet get a chance to display his talents at Test level, and quite possibly at the 2007 Rugby World Cup – but not in the green and gold of South Africa, but for the green of Ireland.
His wife, Bronwyn – whom he married in December last year – has an Irish passport and he could qualify to play for them before next year’s World Cup and has already been approached to go and play there at the end of this season. It is something the in-form No 15 has been contemplating for some time and he is apparently giving it serious thought.
Whether he is in White’s plans remains to be seen, but a place in the Bok squad could be further hampered by having to undergo an operation on his injured knee in the next few weeks.
While the seriousness of the injury does not require immediate action, the Bulls are hoping that Jaco van der Westhuyzen remains injury free so they do not have to call on Roets in the remaining games in the Vodacom Super 14.
White would be well-advised to snare the Bulls man, as he is certainly among the best in his position in South Africa. The national coach has Percy Montgomery as his first-choice, while van der Westhuyzen is an able understudy. However, if injury or a serious drop in form is experienced by either, Roets would certainly be more than capable of making the transition to the top level.
Other choices open to White – looking at the players in SA’s Super 14 franchises – include young Sharks prodigy JP Pietersen, Stormers speedster Joe Pietersen, Cheetahs’ Bevin Fortuin and Conrad Jantjes, although the latter has been played out of position for much of the competition.
By Andrew Hollely
132 Comments
2 May 2006, 06:17 am
Good riddance.
2 May 2006, 06:18 am
But he has got a nice wife.
2 May 2006, 06:24 am
Hey Pompies why do you say “good riddance”?
2 May 2006, 06:34 am
because Roets is not springbok quality. He’s good but not great
2 May 2006, 06:53 am
Slower than Stans IQ.
Let him go.
2 May 2006, 07:00 am
Ja Gooi Sommer Nou!!!
2 May 2006, 07:03 am
Roets reminds me of a young Dale Sandton
2 May 2006, 07:04 am
Post 3 He who thinks he is good enough to be choosen for da boks can go.He will not fit in with JW plans.
2 May 2006, 07:05 am
Post 5 ooooo Stan the man will not be happy with dat. He He He.
2 May 2006, 07:06 am
Losing Roets wouldn’t affect the Bulls or the Boks adversely. What we need is a creative fullback whose first and only instinct on the counter attack is not always and exclusively the up and under.
2 May 2006, 07:06 am
Moegrat
I agree. I also don’t know why Keo has the Stormers Pietersen in his list either. We seem to be a bit thin on the ground when it comes to first choice fullbacks considering that Jaco is the obvious choice for both 10 and 15 if AD or Monty get injured.
2 May 2006, 07:07 am
He can barely speak English! Actually thats about the same as the Irish….
2 May 2006, 07:07 am
So Moegrat, using your logic, all ‘good but not great’ players should pack their bags and only the ‘great’ players should stay? What poppycock.
2 May 2006, 07:11 am
Hey Pompies – are you trying to emulate Confucius with your “He who thinks that he’s good enough…” claptrap?
2 May 2006, 07:13 am
Ding you r da man.
2 May 2006, 07:17 am
moegrat,
Great??? Who in the current bok side is a great and who’s good?
Got to go but i’ll come back to your reply later?
2 May 2006, 07:31 am
Roets excellent man hope you recover soon !!!!
2 May 2006, 07:51 am
he might have a chance as long as he doesn’t try to hold jw to randsom with his possible move.
2 May 2006, 07:54 am
Joe Pietersen from the stormers are you out of your bloody mind, one good game now he must be a bok, have you not been watching the rest of his season, absolute shocker !!
2 May 2006, 08:02 am
Jake White would be stupid if he doesn’t pick Roets, because he, like Clide Rathbone, Vickerman and nearly Habana, will be a great loss to SA rugby. He is a good, solid player and you know what you’ll get from him week in and week out. He really deserves a chance.
2 May 2006, 08:05 am
If he wants to go, then let him go. If he’s good enough in White’s book, White has proven that he is prepared to bring back players from overseas to play for the Boks.
But note!!! White has a serious dislike in this ransom thingie….
Actually, the Stormers management has been blamed quite often lately for letting “good” players go – mostly overseas (and not totally unfounded either) – Boome, Paulse, Pat Barnard, etc…etc. Would be interesting to see what the Bully Boys are prepared to do to keep their men here over the next few years, especially those that do not get the call up…..
2 May 2006, 08:11 am
i see that the cheetahs are negotiating a four month deal with quintin davids. maybe rassie will be able to sort him out, but eish.
2 May 2006, 08:16 am
Bluestripe u right Roets should go cos we know how Jake feels about bulls. Roets we know white doesnt select the best players his got his favourit boys.
2 May 2006, 08:20 am
Roets is not Bok material and if he feels he will advance his career by going to Ireland then that is what he must do.
He is a good solid provincial fullback, no more and no less.
If Jake were blackmailed into giving Bok colours to every good solid provincial player merely to stop them going overseas it would be a sad day for SA rugby.
2 May 2006, 08:22 am
Bluestripe
What can a province do to keep players other than match the overseas offers?
The only other enticement is a Bok place and contract, which is in Jakes hands.
2 May 2006, 08:37 am
Roets will not be a springbok until he learns to pass
2 May 2006, 08:37 am
David,
Exactly the point. If the player is after money (eg. Earl Rose) there is a point where the province has to make a call and say hey, this is what we’re prepared to pay and that’s it.
On Jake – it would be grossly unfair to put the burden on him to try and retain all players who reckon they deserve a Bok cap.
2 May 2006, 08:37 am
Andrew, a player cannot qualify for another country through his wife. The only criteria are your birthplace, your parents’ birthplace, your grandparents’ birthplace, or 3 years continuous residence. Even if he was to take Irish citizenship, the IRB are not interested.
As for Roets, if he wants to go, it will be good for him. I wish him luck.
2 May 2006, 08:47 am
He is to slow to be an international fullback !
Well done to the Bulls saturday – if only you could play 80 minutes like the first 30 and you might well be a championship side !
2 May 2006, 08:48 am
It’s about time the IRB looked at implementing transfer fees. Whilst it won’t stop players from moving it will at least compensate the Union.
With the amount of time and money invested in developing players nowadays it’s the only logical thing to do.
2 May 2006, 08:49 am
sheesh ig, if the bulls can play a whole game with that intensity they would take out most international sides.
2 May 2006, 08:55 am
Andrew is this thumsucking or just an effort to put Roets in dis favour with Jake , we all know how Jake reacts on this
2 May 2006, 08:55 am
He will not be able to play for Ireland in this world cup. Residency laws are around 2 years.
2 May 2006, 08:56 am
We are going to rue the day when he leaves.We do not have a single decent fullback except Monty and Jaco.
Roets must be about 27 and time is running out. He will do well in the NH. Good luck.
He might not be the fastest, but he is solid and reliable, and you know what you have in him.
2 May 2006, 08:57 am
Roets is good, but I do not think great. Not yet, but he could get there. We would be stupid to lose him.
But hey, if White doesn’t want him for the World Cup go to Ireland by all means!
2 May 2006, 09:00 am
best of luck to him, bu Jake doesnt take well to this type of thing. But good luck to him, if he does go overseas, I hope he has a grea career,hopefully for his sake prove once and for all his worth
2 May 2006, 09:00 am
IG
Agree totally, see my post 5 … he is slow.
2 May 2006, 09:01 am
Morning All
Well what can I say my beloved Sharks lost but to a said that played some serious rugby in the first half. Congrats to all you bulls supporters for the win I hope you make it to the semi’s. I will support you in that respect.
So if any of you bulls supporters want to give me **** here I am ready to take it.
Plus congrats to all the stormers supporters who would have known that was going to happen. I wonder what the odds where on the stormers winning. I bet there was a lot of money to be made there.
2 May 2006, 09:02 am
Morning Snoop
2 May 2006, 09:02 am
Roets is looking at the possibility of playing abroad…. and suddenly he is holding JW to ransom!
I hope you recover soon Roetsie, and do what you have to…. good luck !
2 May 2006, 09:04 am
Seilala Mapusua
Chris Whittaker
Mark Randby
Jono Gibbes
and now Roets, The foreign markets have opened early, and the exodus has begun.
2 May 2006, 09:07 am
Staal
Great Players in Springbok Squad (And by great players i mean they would be remembered after they played for the Springboks and more importantly they would be selected in the Kiwi or Oz squad)
Burger
Botha
Matfield
Du Randt
De Villiers (although his form at the beginning of the S12 didnt justify great)
All the other players are good
Cheers
Moegrat
2 May 2006, 09:09 am
If Jake is looking at another fullback it’s probably JP Pietersen. He currently has Monty and Jaco in his squad and JP looks a better investment for the future than Roets. The other point, of course, is that wives can be as much of an influence as the remote possibility of a Bok cap.
2 May 2006, 09:12 am
Roets is still better than anything that the Cape has to offer. At least he has played in a few CC finals and only lost one.
To the FS, not the WP.
2 May 2006, 09:12 am
Roets is a good solid fullback, the best under high ball. but look what difference Jaco did just another class. As much as I rate Roets I think he won’t be in white’s team the younger guys like JP are the ones to invest in. It’s going to be a huge loss for the bulls but Roets must think of what is best for him.
2 May 2006, 09:14 am
Roets will never be a Springbok and although there has been worse that played for the Springboks before him, Jake Whites selection policies prevent that any average Joe makes the team
2 May 2006, 09:17 am
Moegrat
“Jake Whites selection policies prevent that any average Joe makes the team”
He does not have a policy he gets told whom to select.
2 May 2006, 09:17 am
And although Pietersen had a good game over the weekend he is still far away from being selected for the Boks. Jake White must stick with Monty till after the World Cup and then bring in the young guns. We need experience to win the World Cup and we do have it
2 May 2006, 09:19 am
Jondood
Nah i think he pretty much have the final say in the squad that runs onto the field. His predecessors i would say yes, they got told for sure who must and must not play
2 May 2006, 09:19 am
Stan
Greef did get a Bok cap. I bet he’d choose that over a CC final.
2 May 2006, 09:21 am
Monty is too old, too slow and to unsafe under the high ball. Jaco is a better option at fullback for the boks.
2 May 2006, 09:23 am
Ciccino i agree Jaco is better at fullback but then who are you going to select on flyhalf???
Reason i said Monty on fullback is cause Jaco is the flyhalf in my WC07
2 May 2006, 09:27 am
Moegrat,
You like JW policies? Enjoy the rest of the year
2 May 2006, 09:29 am
Roets is a real 100 % commitment player who is very consistent, We are losing too many of these types of players who are probably not good enough to be a regular for the boks but still contribute to the quality of our domestic competition which is important.
2 May 2006, 09:30 am
Flyhalf is a real problem. …?????
the best of the bad bunch is pretorius though he plays hot and cold and very very fragile under presure. Bossman – didn’t lived up the expectation (may be 12 is a better position for him). Being a Stayn’s fan I would like to see him tryed at 10 at least against world 15, scots and see how it works. May be Monty at 10? And they could interchange with jaco during the match? I don’t know 10 is the worst biks problem. But I strongly believe Jaco is much better fullback then flyhalf and he can bring more at 15 then 10.
2 May 2006, 09:30 am
Moegrat
It’s the same old problem of place kicking, isn’t it? Why don’t other players besides flyhalves and fullbacks develop their place kicking? Don’t they realise that this is an asset that would go a long way to increasing their value?
Mortlock and Giteau are both centres which allows the Brumbies the freedom of not worrying about Larkham. Place kicking is not a required skill for a 10.
2 May 2006, 09:30 am
Yes i do, he’s policies brought us from the laughing stock of the rugby world to the second best (and we’ll be no.1 again very soon)
Only reason Bulls supporters dont like Jake is cause he doesnt select their players
2 May 2006, 09:33 am
Nah im not talking about placekicking.
Im saying Jaco is the only player that can get our backline on the run
2 May 2006, 09:33 am
Roets is a good player. Problem is, if he gets game time at 15 who is going to kick the goals? AP is not consistent enough and frankly i dont rate him as our answer to flyhalf… I would have Percy or Jaco at 10 and Fourie at 15. When he started his career for the Lions he was brilliant at 15.
15-Fourie
14-Paulse/Ndungane/Chavanga
13-JDV/Joubert
12-DWB/Olivier
11-Habana/Jantjes
10-Percy/Jaco/Bosman
2 May 2006, 09:35 am
Joe Pieterson a bok candidate LOL! Jeez andrew are u starting a stormers version of the rapports “Maak die bulle almal bokke” campaign, The other Pieterson. JP is real talent though but this is definately too soon for him.
2 May 2006, 09:35 am
wpw
Sounds like an idean but its a bit of a gamble to experiment with that in the Bok setup. Damn i wish Fourie played for province
2 May 2006, 09:38 am
JFourie is the most consistent backline player we have in SA. Let’s hope he can stay injury free until the WC. I have no problem with him at 13 either. He would be great at 15 though… Then we can have DWB’s solid defence at 12 and JDV at 13…Hope Ruan gets a call up. I would have Ruan, FDP and Bolla as the scrum halves. De Kock is playing well too…
2 May 2006, 09:39 am
Moegrat
I agree with you there. He’s the only one who actually takes the ball at pace close to the advantage line.
2 May 2006, 09:40 am
And his got a brilliant pass on him
2 May 2006, 09:42 am
What a bunch of wankers you lot are!
Where is Roets holding JW to ransom? He has a choice to make. He realises that he won’t be a regular in the Bok side, but that he might get a show in when the nr 1 and 2 fullbacks are injured.
If he had a choice between 1 bok cap and 100 Irish caps, Roets would take 1 bok cap. That’s the type of person he is.
But if he isn’t gonna get a chanve to just play for the Boks once, then he needs to consider going for an Irish cap. It makes sense.
2 May 2006, 09:46 am
I also think jaco should be the bok flyhalf, Pretorious has a tendency to run across the field and not attack the advantage line ditto bosman. I also think pretoors doesnt play the situation there are times when a good skip pass is useful but he overdoes it and quite often skips the overlap.
2 May 2006, 09:53 am
Good, piss off Roets. Come back when you’ve learned how to catch a ball.
2 May 2006, 09:57 am
Come on – this is a rugby site – don’t they know the rules? Roets played for SA A under Straueli – thus can’t play for any other country.
Poor journalism – just sensasionalism if you ask me.
2 May 2006, 09:59 am
David – post 50 – Greeff played in 2001 Currie Cup (as sub) – so he has got that as well.
2 May 2006, 10:08 am
sipes post 65 .. great post.
i see no reason that ppl dish roets. Im sure playing for bulls is better than playing for boks cos in bulls u know the best players play.
2 May 2006, 10:08 am
Gecko, does SA A count. Its test caps that count??
2 May 2006, 10:18 am
Jaco’s performances at 15 for the bulls are a clear indication just how far off international standard Roets really is. they’re just in a different league in my opinion.
Steady and solid are not the attributes you want in your fullback if you have any hope of winning the world cup.
2 May 2006, 10:19 am
well spotted and pointed out Gecko. shame on this website and their shocking journalism!
Besides, Ireland are quite well stocked at fullback, with both Hickie and Murphy more than capable.
2 May 2006, 10:30 am
Andrew,
Explain how Roets can play for Ireland in 2007 without qualifiing via the 3 year residential rule and not having an Irish blood line.
and even that being the case you implying that they will shoo him into the national team without seeing what he can do in the premeirship ?
As good as he is I dont think Roets will get a Bok call up.Agree with some of the posters that he’s solid.
Methinks Aussie is the next place to go.
2 May 2006, 10:39 am
Anvil, his wife is Irish. Its like how Aussie Clyde could play for the sheep shaggers cause of his grandmother.
2 May 2006, 10:43 am
Jaco is n beter heelagter,sal die Bulle goed doen om hom te laat gaan!
2 May 2006, 10:43 am
Or do you need blood?? Mmmm, I’m confused.
2 May 2006, 10:50 am
Londonshark, Clyde’s Nan was a sheep so thats acceptable.You mean they allow it for spouses too ?
I ‘m confused too.
2 May 2006, 10:53 am
ah ****, this is not right, all our players end up playing for the oppo, good player this, will be a real pity if he plays for IReland.
2 May 2006, 10:53 am
londonshark – residency can be achieved very quicky through a spouse. It is when one needs to fulfil naturalisation first (i.e become eligible by spending enough time in a country) that it becomes a more timeous process. thats my understanding and experience anyways.
2 May 2006, 10:54 am
London Shark – a country ‘second team’ and sevens team binds you. There were cases where players got dispensation – Mils Muliaina played 7′s for Samoa as Junior Muliaina, and that Ozzie scrumhalf that got a few test caps for NZ (playes for Auckland) – he played 7′s for Oz years previously, but those are the new rules.
2 May 2006, 10:54 am
Moegrat from nowhere to #2 and the only reason why we are not #1 is his stuborness , he was the dude who cost us the 1st place
remember his scrap with VM in his first year , dropping him in the first 2 games , his love relationship with the 3rd best hooker in Sa costing us lineouts in crucial times in close tests , and the ever learning teacher, wonder how clever the Boks will be with all this learning.
2 May 2006, 10:57 am
Steve Devine is the Ozzie I was thinking of
http://stats.allblacks.com/Profile.asp?ABID=1022
2 May 2006, 10:58 am
David,
In 2003, Greeff was the best fullback in the country.
2 May 2006, 10:58 am
See point 8.2
http://www.irb.com/NR/rdonlyres/03D0E4E0-C096-4B13-B05E-3F4856D66558/0/sep05_Reg08.pdf
2 May 2006, 11:15 am
Stan,
Greef has never been the best fullback in any country. If he was the only fullback left in the world, he would still not be the best.
he may have been the most consistently average player, but not best.
2 May 2006, 11:19 am
Mrs Roets is Luuuuvvverrlyy…..shows that being a pro sportsman altho nearly as ugly as Roets could have done for me.
Glad Roets wont play for Boks not with that up n under **** and his one dimensional game ,which he does well at times….decent but not what we need. I want AP to reach form at 10 and Jaco stay at 15 ,YEAH,and Percy on bench
2 May 2006, 11:19 am
bluebarb,
I disagree.
In 2003, Greeff was our best fullback.
2 May 2006, 11:20 am
roets is the most consistant fullback in SA… not only this year but the last 3 seasons…
**** he deserves his green jersey!
Bet you he’s still happy with his 3 CC trophees!! I’ll be…
2 May 2006, 11:21 am
The real advantage that Roets has over other 15′s playing the game is methods of self motivation…
He can look himself in the eye (without using a mirror)!
Geez – have you checked how wierd that dude’s eyes are?!
2 May 2006, 11:27 am
Roets is not of international quality. he has neither the pace, the handling skills or the wit to take the step up. Reminds me of a plonker that used to play for Italy, Just as ugly and stupid. GERT PEENS was the bonehead’s name. Mercifully they dropped him.
2 May 2006, 11:28 am
With a name like Mongril do you even have mirrors in your house
2 May 2006, 11:29 am
Never would the Irish consider Roets anyway, get real! Nor would the provinces.
2 May 2006, 11:33 am
roets
Is baie better as conrad jantjies. Al rede hoekom jaco heelagter speel vir bulls is omdat roets beseer is.
2 May 2006, 11:35 am
Met n naam soos Mongril behoort n veearts jou uit te sit….
WDF het sy oë met sy spelpeil te doen?
2 May 2006, 11:39 am
Morning boys!!
2 May 2006, 11:40 am
Roets needs to look afte his future. If it means having an op and reassessing his options so be it.
Playing the man injured is dumb. If he comes back as improve as Percy did then the country will benefit. The issue of whether or not he will play for Ireland is a non starter as mentioned elsewhere. He’s the form full back not another Messiah.
2 May 2006, 11:45 am
More Stan!
Dis baie positief vir sy spel – hy kan sien wie agter hom is as hy hardloop en kan rond-om losgemale sien!
En my veearts is baie tevrede met my pels noudat ek na Bob Martin’s oorgeslaan het!
2 May 2006, 11:46 am
Stan,
ons sal saamstem om nie saam te stem nie. Greefie was altyd net te onvoorspelbaar. nes Gaffie. jy’t nooit geweet wie gaan opdaag kom saterdag nie. Op sy dag was hey brilliant maar hy kon ook maar hondkak wees. Die 3N game teen Aus. het hom n verlengde loopbaan gegee. Die beste heelagters van onlangse tye was Jouba en Johan Heunis.
2 May 2006, 11:47 am
Please dont go roetsie!!!!!! The bulls need you for a long time still. Ask frikkie and jaco, its kak overseas…
2 May 2006, 11:50 am
Hallo Kitty!
blueb,
Ja, jy kan nie Greeff met heunis en joubert vergelyk nie.
2 May 2006, 11:50 am
Just havent seen Roets finish,he is ok ,but the Bulkls are better now with Jaco at 15. He can also up n under and gather,but he offers a whole lot more.
Roets isnt **** ,he is just OK,Bulls fans ,you are doiung better now with the best 15 we have,incl Percy.
2 May 2006, 11:54 am
Roets may not be our 15 for the Boks, but Heyneke Meyer should not lose a player of his experience and calibre. Losing Kees Lensing was not good for them and losing Johan will also not be a good.
Its cool the Frikkie Welsh has brought back his experience, but I really do feel for Akona. That dude was a really good finisher, nobody can argue that.
2 May 2006, 11:55 am
ddrek, if Roets is not what we need, who is? At least it’s one dimension Roets does well. Roets isn’t the answer to our prayers, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a chance in the green and gold.
2 May 2006, 11:55 am
Agreed ddrek
Jaco is best fullback around.
Would love to see the following backline play for the boks some time:
9) FdP
10) Andre P
12) De Wet B
13) Jacques F
11) Habanero
14) Jean Div
15) Jaco vd W
Bench: Ricky/Ruan, Butch (inside backs), Jantjes (outside backs)
All have good touches except DwB – but he has other qualities offering a balanced set-up.
2 May 2006, 12:01 pm
Hey Kitty!
did you get the red paint off? I tried to look in the stands on the weekend but didny see anything..
2 May 2006, 12:03 pm
Hi bluebarb! Yes i did thank you! were you there??? clearly you didn’t look hard enough!
2 May 2006, 13:22 pm
read the last sentence
http://www.rugbyheaven.smh.com.au/news/off-the-field/theres-an-answer-to-rugbys-problems–and-its-not-more-leaguies/2006/05/01/1146335671556.html
2 May 2006, 13:22 pm
YOU CANNOT ACHIEVE IRB ELIGIBILITY THROUGH A SPOUSE. Roets can easily get Irish RESIDENCY through his wife but if he wants to play for the Irish National team he will first have to serve out a three year residency period before being eligible (unless he has Irish parents or grandparents which is not mentioned).
Come on Andrew DO A BIT OF RESEARCH before posting such articles.
2 May 2006, 13:23 pm
**** Muir is trying to hold onto Tony Brown but his Japanese club want him back. So **** is trying to settle on an exchange programme, where he will send a couple of players over.
I dont see how mixing it up with the Japanese is going to benifit our boys????? I really dont, they are not a froce in rugby! Stick to the Sony gadgets and let the manne play rugga!
2 May 2006, 13:29 pm
Come on Mackie
The Japanese recently THRASHED South Korea to take the Asian championship. These guys are super-committed pint-sized kumakazi pilots on the field. They even ‘nearly beat’ Scotland once!! Give them respect.
2 May 2006, 13:31 pm
Delek – Roets can never play for Ireland, he has played for SA A (2002 (or 2003) vs Argentina)
2 May 2006, 13:32 pm
Thanks Gecko – even more reason for Andrew to DO A BIT OF RESEARCH!
2 May 2006, 13:36 pm
Delek,
Yup I heard about the Scottish thing.
The Sharks supposedly had an exchange programme with the Leicseter Tigers, now that would have been more benificial as far as im concerned. The Japanes thing will only get the players a bit of “me love you long time” as opposed to international rugga experience.
2 May 2006, 14:04 pm
I also think that roets is a solid provincial player at best.Jaco has showen the class difference between a springbok&a solid player.
I do however believe that we need a roets in our provincial structures,cause he adds experience 2 youngsters coming through.Also someone like pat barnard is a case in point.He is a young guy who would not walk into the bok team but he can add value 2 our provincial structure.Maybe in a year or 2 if he proves himself get a bok call up.But he is not better than jannie dup,bj,cj..Or not yet anyhow.
2 May 2006, 15:14 pm
IG, they can play 80min’s like they did the first 40…They just did’nt see the point.
I also recon that you lot at Keo should club together and buy Keo some nu bones, Dem bones are lookin a tad shabby. Having said that, I hope the bones go against the Monster Bulls again, It always works.
2 May 2006, 15:45 pm
Although I prefer Roets at No 15 for the Boks because of his defensive and positional skills, I rate his chances as nil to break into the Boks squad, the position has been pencilled for a quota player for a long time.
2 May 2006, 15:50 pm
To quote another muppit from last week:
‘Bang on time Onlooker appears with his rubbish post of the day. You can set your watch to him’
2 May 2006, 16:00 pm
gecko,
The smart money supports my opinion,
It’s the same as with Luke Watson who cannot break in because of ‘springboks’ Dlulane and Solly are already entranched there
2 May 2006, 16:07 pm
Let me see – Roets first played for SA A in 2002 – so from 2002 the SA fullback were:
Greeff
Delport
Monty
Russell
Yes, I can see Roets losing out to quotas.
Off course, you must have enjoyed sitting back watching SA playing NZ at cricket, and on a excellent batting pitch had to rely on two quotas to get us past the follow on – not to mention our only class bowler being a quota.
2 May 2006, 16:37 pm
Onlooker you are a moron. The top bok candidates are:
Percy
Jaco vd Westh
Conrad Jantjes
If these three are injured you will see:
Jacque Fourie
Breyton Paulse
and only then:
Then a toss up between Roets and Russel.
Roets has no chance of becoming a Bok – not becuase of race – but because of lack of skill.
I rate Geordan Murphy higher than Roets !
2 May 2006, 16:58 pm
ja Gecko, I was also wondering about how the quota brigade took the cricket performances this weekend.
No doubt the peanut gallery would be vociferously damning had both Amla, and Prince scored ducks.
2 May 2006, 17:12 pm
ek se maar niks!
2 May 2006, 17:12 pm
did you guys hear Lardy Davids is going to play his rugby in the Free State. hehehe
2 May 2006, 17:14 pm
Guys,
None of the mentioned above fullbacks can field a high ball, none will tackle as a Test fullback should tackle.
I actually would pick Bevin Fortune ahead of that lot, he seemed to have it all: size, speed, out of hand kick and not shy of tackling
however, with that current bobojantjes brigade in the Boks squad Roets better go north
2 May 2006, 17:15 pm
Onlooker – Roets can’t field a high ball either – not under pressure anyway as any Bloemboy will probably tell you.
2 May 2006, 17:35 pm
comment no 29 is very right roets is very good all round but he is not really fast enough to play fullback at international level every player has his weakness its too bad his is a little overwelming
2 May 2006, 18:06 pm
Quota Jantes will get the call before Roets in the event of an injury.
2 May 2006, 18:52 pm
Go Play Ireland…..more cash as well Roets
2 May 2006, 21:25 pm
Onlooker
Few have ever been as good as Jaco under the high ball….and he can counter.
2 May 2006, 21:38 pm
Kitty…everyone deserves a chance ,but i’ve answered that i prefer Jaco at 15 ,w Pret at 10 and Perc on bench as experience backup. Actually momngril has my team on paper ,except the rewserves not quite my choice.
Mongril i’d also love to see Habs,JdV and Fourie being tested at wings and centers so we have our most dynamic combo. it would be awesome to get Habs at 13 someday,with JdV at 12 once defence is sorted out.
2 May 2006, 21:39 pm
Somebody said we need Roets atleast at CC level for assisting the new boys coming thru. Very true indeed. Our underlying players need to be good too.
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