Jake’s crocked Boks
10 May 2006
Andy Marinos has revealed that half the contracted Springboks have chronic injuries — and this less than 18 months before the next World Cup.
Marinos, speaking to Die Burger’s Herbert Pretorius, said it was crucial the players were better managed and cited the example that thirteen of the 24 nationally contracted players were walking wounded.
Marinos said it was because players had played too much rugby.
The reason was that the provinces pay huge sums of money to contract these stars and they were not prepared to withdraw them from Currie Cup matches without remuneration.
Marinos told Pretorius that thes problem was close to being solved.
“We’re close to finalising a three-in-one contract for our World Cup Springboks. There are just one or two small details still to be sorted out.”
According to the new contracts, the provinces will be remunerated for the matches played without their contracted Boks.
This will result in White and his coaching staff having far-more control in the management of his players.
Marinos says the planning for next year’s RWC tournament is being done meticulously.
“We’ve already had a strategic planning meeting where the Bok captains in the previous World Cup campaigns were asked to give input. Other former players and sports scientists like Tim Noakes also formed part of the think-tank. Thanks to their contributions, we’ve been able to formulate a detailed World Cup plan.”
43 Comments
10 May 2006, 08:31 am
Well 18 months is a loooong time
10 May 2006, 08:33 am
I also want to join the “think-tank” since everybody from Rudolph Strauli to the doorman gets to give input.
I think in the future, when you get offered a Springbok contract, you get bought out of your provincial contract. Meaning you are property of SA rugby. The coach will tell you where and when you play. This will cut out all this unprofessional provincialism ****.
10 May 2006, 08:34 am
Damn….you beat me Moegrat……..and Edwill
10 May 2006, 08:35 am
Keo give us a recap on the 24 contracted Boks. I think Gary Botha, Ashwin Willemse, Solly, Shimmie and Paulse might be among them.
10 May 2006, 08:35 am
Beat you at what? What are you 12 years old?
10 May 2006, 08:35 am
Do NZ and Aus have the same stats … 50% of contracted players crocked? To me it seems as if we have a problem here that NZ and Aus do not have. Do we really play more than them – or is our conditioning not up to their standards?
10 May 2006, 08:37 am
Pittige Edwill van die Aarde
10 May 2006, 08:37 am
‘According to the new contracts, the provinces will be remunerated for the matches played without their contracted Boks’ – so does thi smean the provinces need to contract more players – even for the games they are not used?
What happens to these players after this and how does it make them feel if they are only 2nd rate players?
Good thinking so it must be a well working ‘formulated, detailed World cup plan’
10 May 2006, 08:37 am
No the question here is … why the f@ck is a crocked player like Ashwin Willemse given a long contract when he is injury prone and anyone wityh half a brain knows it, yet a player like AP doesn’t have a contract.
If you looking for the problem, start at your own doorstep!
10 May 2006, 08:38 am
Extremely important advice and recommendations to be passed on to wives, girlfriends, fiancées, mothers, sisters, daughters – all women in general.
These rules are to be communicated prior to the World Cup in June/July this year. (Read and print them)
Note to wife girlfriend sister
- From June to Dec 2006, you should read the sports section of the newspaper so that you are aware of what is going on regarding the World Cup, that way you will be able to join in the conversations.
If you fail to do this, then you will be looked at in a bad way, or you will be totally ignored. Do not complain about not receiving any attention;
- During the World Cup, the television is mine, the VCR is all mine, at all times, without any exceptions. If you even take a glimpse of the remote control, you will lose it (your eye);
- If you have to pass in front of the TV during a game, I won’t mind, as long as you do it crawling on the floor and without distracting me. If you decide to stand naked in front of the TV, make sure that you put your clothes on immediately after that because if you catch a cold, I won’t have time to take you to the doctor or look after you during the World Cup month;
- During the games I will be blind, deaf and mute, unless I require a refill of my drink or something to eat. You are out of your mind if you expect me to listen to you, open the door, answer the telephone, or pick up the baby that just fell from the second floor … it won’t happen;
- It would be a good idea for you to keep at least two six-packs in the fridge at all times, as well as plenty of things to nibble. And please do not make any funny faces to my friends when they come over to watch the games. In return, you will be allowed to use the TV between 8am and 10pm, unless they replay a good game that I missed during the night;
- Please, please, please, if you see me upset because one of my teams is losing, do not say “get over it, it’s only a gameâ€, or “don’t worry, they’ll win next timeâ€. If you say these things, you will only make me angrier and I will love you less.
Remember, you will never ever know more about football than me, and your so-called “words of encouragement†will only lead to a break-up or divorce;
- You are welcome to sit with me to watch one game and you can talk to me during half-time, but only when the commercials are on, and only if I am happy with the half-time score. Please note, I am saying “one†game, hence do not use the World Cup as a nice cheesy excuse to “spend time togetherâ€;
- The replays of the goals are very important. I don’t care if I have seen them or I haven’t seen them, I want to see them again. Many times, and record themâ€
- Tell your friends not to have any babies, or any other child-related parties or gatherings that require my attendance because:
a) I will not go,
b) I will not go, and
c) I will not go.
- But, if a friend of mine invites us to his house on a Sunday to watch a game, we will be there in a flash;
- The daily World Cup highlights on TV every night is just as important as the games themselves. Do not even think about saying “but you have already seen this … why don’t you change the channel to something we can all watch?â€, the reply will be: “Refer to Rule #2 of this list”.
- Finally, save your expressions such as “thank God the World Cup is only every four yearsâ€. I am immune to these words, because after this comes the A-league, the Champions League, Italian League, Spanish League, English Premier League, and so on.
Thanks you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Men of the world.
10 May 2006, 08:38 am
Katsesnor
Our provincial setup is lacking professionalism. We pat each other on the back too many times like a bunch of pansy gym-goers. South African Rugby don’t have a clue what professional sport is all about. They think drinking creatine, powerade and going to gym is professional rugby.
10 May 2006, 08:44 am
Bok Players whould be offered 3 contracts.
A (long term)S14 and (short term)CC one by their unions and a Bok one by SARU.
10 May 2006, 09:10 am
Kiwis & Aussies play just as much rugby so what’s the problem – mofies
10 May 2006, 09:15 am
I didn’t think that there were that many crocked Boks – who?
10 May 2006, 09:17 am
Geez bigg … we actually agree on something!!
Hope you enjoyed Saturday’s game
10 May 2006, 09:21 am
marinos says these injuries are due to overexursion, what!!
To think that these guys played their guts out and still cannot show anything for the sweat.
Where is the semi finals.
Play smart and not stupid.
10 May 2006, 09:27 am
Keo
Good article on news24. I can’t see how they going to manage these players by keeping them off the field. Let the guys play CC this year but let them play for 40 minutes. It’s no use of having these players and they don’t get any game time. It’s still along way out to the next world cup. What’s the CC going to be like without our top rugby players ? Same with the end of year tour. For Jake this is important games , but i would rather send a good balance second team over for the end of year tour. Give the youngsters the oppertunity to go out there and play bok rugby. I hope not we are going to get alot of injuries with this end of year tour.
10 May 2006, 09:34 am
bigg
I agree.
I think our players need to learn what the other Unions do in their off seasons.
They are definantly fitter and stronger.
10 May 2006, 09:41 am
I read in the Burger that Q Davids wanne go play for the Cheetha’s. Rassie is intrested in his service.
10 May 2006, 09:43 am
jondood .,the reason the other payers are fitter and stronger are in my opinion the way they have been brought up
they do physical work, are not lazy and dont spend the time in front of tv
i may be completly wrong but an observation our boys of to day are not like those of the past
when we worked and walked to most places
10 May 2006, 09:44 am
Andre
I can not see how Rassie is going to motivate him to play good rugby.
Look at his exit from WP. That should make any coach wary of taking him on, besides his onfield performance is KAK.
10 May 2006, 09:52 am
how is QD gonna cope with a predominantly white afrikaans setup? he’l be calling everyone in the free state ‘racist’ before the end of the year
10 May 2006, 10:09 am
jondood
Yes i think we all know his useless.
10 May 2006, 10:12 am
AAG This story is so ******* old. They are overplayed, and achieved basicly nothing……The AB & Aussies players play just as much. I can see it already, this is going to be the main excuse if we stuff it up in the WC.While realisticly all these players can have a heart transplant, fully recover and be in form in 18 months time
10 May 2006, 10:16 am
Clever guy this Jake White
I agree Blouste…. This will be the main excuse
10 May 2006, 10:22 am
Well with MARINOS in charge of National teams, who knows what to believe..
Cant believe that SARU did not appoint a credible person [Eg Teichman, Andre Joubert or the likes] into that position..
10 May 2006, 10:23 am
“Cant believe that SARU did not appoint a credible person”
Bwahahahahaha
You kidding me right?
10 May 2006, 10:25 am
“The reason was that the provinces pay huge sums of money to contract these stars ….”
of which Marinos’ cut is what …. 10% ?? cracker
10 May 2006, 10:26 am
I dont think Rassie really wants Davids.
It just shows how desperate Rassie is to get hold of coloured players, to meet the laid down quota requirement.
10 May 2006, 10:26 am
Edwill #2
I understand what your thinking is re the buying out of contracts and the bok coach allocating players to provinces but I cant see a union like the Sharks accepting it too easily, after all the reason for their academy is to develop players that will play for them – they are investing good money and effort in these players and would not be happy with the coach sending those players to wherever he deems it necessary.
10 May 2006, 10:29 am
kevin w,
Comment 9. And AP isn’t injury prone? I think, however, that the AP issue was resolved, and that he is a Bok contracted player.
10 May 2006, 10:30 am
Bob,
The Sharks has never had an academy. They have always relied on players from other provinces and countries.
Which is a shame as there are enough top schools in natal.
10 May 2006, 10:30 am
we probably have more players on ARU contracts than what you guys have. Anyone who is considered a prospect of playing for the wallabies get an ARU contract on top of his Super 14 deal
10 May 2006, 10:30 am
Kevin W – I actually didn’t watch the game on Saturday, I was at a wedding. you know very well I would have enjoyed the game if I watched it. Don’t rub it in! I wouldn’t do it to you – ha ha.
Stan yes Cheetahs have the worst transformation record. Stormers are the best thats why we do so bad
10 May 2006, 10:33 am
bigg,
Transformation se gat.
If the blacks are not interested in rugby in the Freestate, what is Rassie suppose to do?
10 May 2006, 10:47 am
Bigg
Welcome back from your holiday ! Hope it wasn’t your own wedding with that new Afrikaans chick of yours on Saturday !
Who is the imposter plonker, bigg g, that’s almost posting under your name ?
10 May 2006, 10:48 am
point 13 – Biggs… i dont think the Auz play as much ruga. thye move off into club games, which I beleive is not as intense as the CC or NZ series
10 May 2006, 10:50 am
Listen Stan I actually share your views on the qouta thing. I think it sucks!! Imagine in Solly Tibalika ( spelling ) is chosen over luke watson or Botes!!! Then the transformation qouta system is a total **** up and a JOKE. Just like Zuma…
10 May 2006, 10:54 am
Rudebud – I had a great holiday thanks. A friend of mine from east london got married, Andre Vos was there – he was MC. Got a picture with him too, a really nice guy.
I was a little shocked to see this imposter big g. I do actually mind but there is nothing I can do about it. as long as nobody mistakes him for me…
10 May 2006, 11:57 am
Stan
The Sharks most definately have an acedemy now and no its not only for KZN players but for anyone with promise, Rudi Strauli mentioned as much in an article in the Sunday Times last weeekend – he goes so far as mentioning that they have someone talent spotting at all schools festivals,rugby weeeks etc. They are therefore hopimg to develop top class players for their teams regardless from where they come.
You will propbably be pretty surprised if you log onto the Bulls site and read their player profile and see how many of their current stars arent Pretoria born and bred.
10 May 2006, 12:24 pm
It’s bloody obviuos to anybody that player burnout will take its toll.
BUT
Does Marinos name the players and what are the injuries they have ? So the issue can be addressed NOW with the players in question rather than in 18 months time.
10 May 2006, 14:36 pm
i thought they would be breaching patient confidentiality if they name the players and their injuries in the media
11 May 2006, 05:02 am
Rassie’s beloved Vrystaat, hey?
Vrystaat is a brilliant place to have come from but a truly horrible place to go to.
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