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	<title>Comments on: White slams player abuse</title>
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		<title>By: Myler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-85506</link>
		<dc:creator>Myler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 07:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only way to get players to rest more is to scrap  the Super 14 and the Tri nations.  Go  back  to playing club rugby, even the bloody Springboks. Bring back the Easter club championships and only there after start with  the  curriecup.  Bring back decent tours like All  Blacks in SA for a  6 week tour playing 4 tests and a couple of midweek games. Bring the British lions an go there. Stop  the end of year simple player burn out tours.

The paying public would like  to  see NZ play the Falcons on a tuesday and the Boks on Saturday. That way it will  ensure that you have  at least 30 players in your squad  that can play test rugby.

For once I would like &quot;Moaner White&quot; to stop complaining. He moans abbout the players playing too much but also states that his captain won&#039;t  get much rest. Why not set an example your bloody asshole???????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to get players to rest more is to scrap  the Super 14 and the Tri nations.  Go  back  to playing club rugby, even the bloody Springboks. Bring back the Easter club championships and only there after start with  the  curriecup.  Bring back decent tours like All  Blacks in SA for a  6 week tour playing 4 tests and a couple of midweek games. Bring the British lions an go there. Stop  the end of year simple player burn out tours.</p>
<p>The paying public would like  to  see NZ play the Falcons on a tuesday and the Boks on Saturday. That way it will  ensure that you have  at least 30 players in your squad  that can play test rugby.</p>
<p>For once I would like &#8220;Moaner White&#8221; to stop complaining. He moans abbout the players playing too much but also states that his captain won&#8217;t  get much rest. Why not set an example your bloody <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*******</acronym>???????</p>
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		<title>By: Viper6</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-85295</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Jake is starting with the excuses already?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jake is starting with the excuses already?</p>
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		<title>By: bokfan1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-85087</link>
		<dc:creator>bokfan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 12:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Superbul you are illiterate and a moron. Typical doff, stubborn Bulls supporter&#039;s view. The National side is what matters the most and Jake White had valid points. Plus he wasnt critisizing the Bulls coaching staff, just saying Habana and Bakkies have played too much. You need to learn punctuation and how to write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superbul you are illiterate and a moron. Typical doff, stubborn Bulls supporter&#8217;s view. The National side is what matters the most and Jake White had valid points. Plus he wasnt critisizing the Bulls coaching staff, just saying Habana and Bakkies have played too much. You need to learn punctuation and how to write.</p>
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		<title>By: Frazer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-85048</link>
		<dc:creator>Frazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 11:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anvil - Exactly what I thought.  You&#039;re a Bulls supporter - you got nothing!!!! :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anvil &#8211; Exactly what I thought.  You&#8217;re a Bulls supporter &#8211; you got nothing!!!! <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mistral</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mistral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LondenBul, its you thats looking that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LondenBul, its you thats looking that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Anvil</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84975</link>
		<dc:creator>Anvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LMFAO Frazer! 

I gotta give up on you now mate,cuase if this goes on I&#039;d die of laughter at your lame comebacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMFAO Frazer! </p>
<p>I gotta give up on you now mate,cuase if this goes on I&#8217;d die of laughter at your lame comebacks.</p>
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		<title>By: canafunk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84937</link>
		<dc:creator>canafunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All you have to do is Look at the record of SA. You can take that away from him. Let him do what he wants and need to do and when the time comes you can judge him, only then.

So I think he is doing a great job. The point he made was he was already injured and they made him play so, they took a chance knowing he was injured. THAT WAS THE POINT.

No need to judge the guy before the season has even started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do is Look at the record of SA. You can take that away from him. Let him do what he wants and need to do and when the time comes you can judge him, only then.</p>
<p>So I think he is doing a great job. The point he made was he was already injured and they made him play so, they took a chance knowing he was injured. THAT WAS THE POINT.</p>
<p>No need to judge the guy before the season has even started.</p>
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		<title>By: Frazer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84930</link>
		<dc:creator>Frazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anvil - What are those numbers - the amount of times you correctly guess which team someone supports?  14 from 75 is not at all impressive...  And what&#039;s the 10 from 43?  The amount of times you haven&#039;t been let down by your Bulls?  Also nothing to shout about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anvil &#8211; What are those numbers &#8211; the amount of times you correctly guess which team someone supports?  14 from 75 is not at all impressive&#8230;  And what&#8217;s the 10 from 43?  The amount of times you haven&#8217;t been let down by your Bulls?  Also nothing to shout about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LondenBul</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84868</link>
		<dc:creator>LondenBul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 09:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I juts red this on the Supertsprt site.

By Gavin Rich:
White added that his medical staff had informed him that several of the players at the camp were â€œon the edgeâ€.

However, while White fumes about the Super 14 coaches overusing players, it needs to be remembered that when he had the opportunity to give the top players much needed consecutive (continuous) rest by giving them off the last end of year tour, he did not use it.

When a possible extra test against Italy was also mooted for the end of year tour, White was also all for it.

And instead of giving his players a rest opportunity at the end of the current season, which could be important before next yearâ€™s World Cup, he has instead managed to convince SA Rugby that they should be rested during the Currie Cup.

This effectively means that the players will be â€œrestingâ€ at a time when their season is still on the go as White will be calling them into action for the end of year tour to England and Ireland, where three tests, and maybe a possible fourth against a World tea, are scheduled.

On top of all of this, White has stated, according to reports, that he will not be resting Springbok skipper John Smit during the international season. He may have his reasons for this, but then Heyneke Meyer undoubtely probably had his reasons for playing Botha against the Crusaders.

Jake is staring to lose the plot. Bakkies was managed so well, everybody complained he hasn&#039;t had more than 60 minutes the whole season, anf NOW he has been overused. Shut up JAke, you are looking like a fuckin idiot. And Habana was rested against the Crusaders. Jake obviously would have rested Habana in a Semi-final! And he stated John Smit is not going to have any rest. 

Jake is becoming like Woodward, more and more. I&#039;m starting to get  a dislike in him....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I juts red this on the Supertsprt site.</p>
<p>By Gavin Rich:<br />
White added that his medical staff had informed him that several of the players at the camp were â€œon the edgeâ€.</p>
<p>However, while White fumes about the Super 14 coaches overusing players, it needs to be remembered that when he had the opportunity to give the top players much needed consecutive (continuous) rest by giving them off the last end of year tour, he did not use it.</p>
<p>When a possible extra test against Italy was also mooted for the end of year tour, White was also all for it.</p>
<p>And instead of giving his players a rest opportunity at the end of the current season, which could be important before next yearâ€™s World Cup, he has instead managed to convince SA Rugby that they should be rested during the Currie Cup.</p>
<p>This effectively means that the players will be â€œrestingâ€ at a time when their season is still on the go as White will be calling them into action for the end of year tour to England and Ireland, where three tests, and maybe a possible fourth against a World tea, are scheduled.</p>
<p>On top of all of this, White has stated, according to reports, that he will not be resting Springbok skipper John Smit during the international season. He may have his reasons for this, but then Heyneke Meyer undoubtely probably had his reasons for playing Botha against the Crusaders.</p>
<p>Jake is staring to lose the plot. Bakkies was managed so well, everybody complained he hasn&#8217;t had more than 60 minutes the whole season, anf NOW he has been overused. Shut up JAke, you are looking like a <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym> idiot. And Habana was rested against the Crusaders. Jake obviously would have rested Habana in a Semi-final! And he stated John Smit is not going to have any rest. </p>
<p>Jake is becoming like Woodward, more and more. I&#8217;m starting to get  a dislike in him&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anvil</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84858</link>
		<dc:creator>Anvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 09:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frazer, Let me give you a hint.

75 - 14
43 - 10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frazer, Let me give you a hint.</p>
<p>75 &#8211; 14<br />
43 &#8211; 10</p>
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		<title>By: Frazer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84844</link>
		<dc:creator>Frazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 08:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anvil - WTF are you talking about?  The Iraqi womens team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anvil &#8211; WTF are you talking about?  The Iraqi womens team?</p>
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		<title>By: sparticus</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84727</link>
		<dc:creator>sparticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 07:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Must admit that while Jake is correct in general about player burnout in this instance he might be off the boil , I mean Bakkies played only 60 mins of most games this year and Habana if anything needs to play a bit more and he was badly off form midway only coming right now.

PS - WPW - Post 55 , LMAO - good one!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must admit that while Jake is correct in general about player burnout in this instance he might be off the boil , I mean Bakkies played only 60 mins of most games this year and Habana if anything needs to play a bit more and he was badly off form midway only coming right now.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; WPW &#8211; Post 55 , LMAO &#8211; good one!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anvil</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84705</link>
		<dc:creator>Anvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 07:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RiCane,

Re the Bulls,I am dissappointed about the Bulls performance.But given their on and off form,I think they did well to get to the top 4.

Frazer,  
  Shady pines retirement 15 would better your women in black.Just like the Bulls did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RiCane,</p>
<p>Re the Bulls,I am dissappointed about the Bulls performance.But given their on and off form,I think they did well to get to the top 4.</p>
<p>Frazer,<br />
  Shady pines retirement 15 would better your women in black.Just like the Bulls did.</p>
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		<title>By: spokie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84669</link>
		<dc:creator>spokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 07:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the rate this injury spree is going the springboks are going to cancel their season because Jake only believes in picking a certain group of so-called â€œwunderkindsâ€ or â€œchosen â€“onesâ€. He has the chance to rest some of these players and to develop new talent but his to stubborn to do it. I smell a wippin coming this seasonâ€¦.and the excuses has already been formulated!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the rate this injury spree is going the springboks are going to cancel their season because Jake only believes in picking a certain group of so-called â€œwunderkindsâ€ or â€œchosen â€“onesâ€. He has the chance to rest some of these players and to develop new talent but his to stubborn to do it. I smell a wippin coming this seasonâ€¦.and the excuses has already been formulated!</p>
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		<title>By: B4theGame</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84646</link>
		<dc:creator>B4theGame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So JAKE - its fine to complain!! What is the solution??? U had the chance end of 2005 to NOT take key players on tour, yet u did??

Everybody&#039;s head is on the chopping block at CC, S14 and Int level - so why would any team NOT use the resources they pay a fortune for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So JAKE &#8211; its fine to complain!! What is the solution??? U had the chance end of 2005 to NOT take key players on tour, yet u did??</p>
<p>Everybody&#8217;s head is on the chopping block at CC, S14 and Int level &#8211; so why would any team NOT use the resources they pay a fortune for?</p>
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		<title>By: Frazer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84627</link>
		<dc:creator>Frazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ricane - The Shady Pines Retirement Home first 15 could do better than the Bulls did....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ricane &#8211; The Shady Pines Retirement Home first 15 could do better than the Bulls did&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pussycat</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84624</link>
		<dc:creator>Pussycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Superbul - your post no 4 is a rambling hotchpotch of addled nonsense.  Anyone wanting a good laugh on a Monday morning, have a gander at it.

Initially I thought one would have to just remove any sense of style and class to become a Bulls supporter.  Now I&#039;ve realised you have to have a complete brain removal - maybe just leave the stem.

Superpussycat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superbul &#8211; your post no 4 is a rambling hotchpotch of addled nonsense.  Anyone wanting a good laugh on a Monday morning, have a gander at it.</p>
<p>Initially I thought one would have to just remove any sense of style and class to become a Bulls supporter.  Now I&#8217;ve realised you have to have a complete brain removal &#8211; maybe just leave the stem.</p>
<p>Superpussycat</p>
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		<title>By: Bluestripe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84618</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluestripe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough wpw,

guess the point I&#039;m trying to make, is that there has to be more scientific ways to establish which players are playing how much rugby at what intensity and there should be guidelines to measure against. Not this generalised &quot;too much rugby&quot; thing...

I&#039;m sure if you ask Heineke&#039;s opinion on Bakkies this season, he would argue that he managed Bakkies quite well throughout? And he&#039;s probably not wrong either.

Maybe we can get that dry-cleaner in Pta to keep the records for them - check how many times he cleaned each players&#039; jersey and how dirty they were...!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough wpw,</p>
<p>guess the point I&#8217;m trying to make, is that there has to be more scientific ways to establish which players are playing how much rugby at what intensity and there should be guidelines to measure against. Not this generalised &#8220;too much rugby&#8221; thing&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure if you ask Heineke&#8217;s opinion on Bakkies this season, he would argue that he managed Bakkies quite well throughout? And he&#8217;s probably not wrong either.</p>
<p>Maybe we can get that dry-cleaner in Pta to keep the records for them &#8211; check how many times he cleaned each players&#8217; jersey and how dirty they were&#8230;!!</p>
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		<title>By: ricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84617</link>
		<dc:creator>ricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anvil #42. ite a different attitude this year and it shows in the close games.
I dunno if we can beat the saders, we can certainly play better the that excuse of a Bulls team did, and we can do better than we did against the Saders earlier in the season, which was a very close game.
We have what it takes to win, will we do it
It will defintely be an exciting finale to the season!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anvil #42. ite a different attitude this year and it shows in the close games.<br />
I dunno if we can beat the saders, we can certainly play better the that excuse of a Bulls team did, and we can do better than we did against the Saders earlier in the season, which was a very close game.<br />
We have what it takes to win, will we do it<br />
It will defintely be an exciting finale to the season!</p>
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		<title>By: Paws</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/05/21/white-slams-player-abuse/#comment-84603</link>
		<dc:creator>Paws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 06:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Jake .. best you start developing some depth in all the possitions .. you are already a year to late on that score, but rather late than never.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jake .. best you start developing some depth in all the possitions .. you are already a year to late on that score, but rather late than never.</p>
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