Butch battles on
23 May 2006
Injury-prone flyhalf Butch James says the groin strain he picked at the Springbok training camp in Bloemfontein was not serious.
“I could have trained yesterday (Sunday) if I wanted to but I decided to rest and I’ll be running again on Wednesday,†James told Daily News rugby writer Zayn Nabbi. “I’ve just strained my groin, nothing else. I think it might be because of the cold weather in Bloem, which my body isn’t used to, but I’m pretty sure I’ll be fine.â€
The 27-year-old said it was great to be back, both with the Sharks and Boks.
“I was just happy to be playing Super 14 and I never expected a call up this soon after my comeback,†admitted James. “It’s a bonus that I’ve been selected for the Boks and the atmosphere is much better than the last time I was here,†he said.
James last played Test-match rugby in 2002 when he was part of the infamous Springbok team that lost 53-3 to England at Twickenham.
141 Comments
23 May 2006, 16:14 pm
Butch is a legend!!! Nearly as good as Fleckie and Skinstad!
23 May 2006, 16:16 pm
Why is he there…we all know he can’t play rugby
23 May 2006, 16:17 pm
Nah wpw – its gonna take a pretty serious rugger player to eclipse the legend that Fleck is…..
23 May 2006, 16:18 pm
had a dream last night in which jw on a press conference took the blame for the injuries that his top players are suffering from . when I woke up, I remembered the statement by the boks that no player/s got injured doing the fitness training. sound a bit like those movies saying “no animals were hurt during the making of this movieâ€, doesn’t it?
23 May 2006, 16:19 pm
I don’s see Flekie & Skinstad as legends..
but Ja I like Butch & I think he’ll get the backs running this year..
I am worried about his high tackling & I’m sure we’ll see him in the bin sometime this year!
23 May 2006, 16:19 pm
Butch needs roids.
23 May 2006, 16:20 pm
I wonder how his Sharks commercial manager (aka Strauli) is going to take his comments on ‘different atmosphere to last time I was here’?
23 May 2006, 16:21 pm
Butch is an idiot…can’t believe he is there and Fleck is no legend………….jaco is still our number 1 there
23 May 2006, 16:22 pm
why does everyone keep bleating on about butch’s high tackling? that was sorted out years ago.
he can get the backline moving and is pretty solid in defense, and he has a pretty good goalkicking average.
23 May 2006, 16:24 pm
Steyn
How is Butch an idiot ? Just so I can support you on this one.
I like been on a winning side of a solid argument and you sound as if you have one.
Share with me so I can abuse him on my next thread
23 May 2006, 16:25 pm
jaco no1 for aimless kicking?
23 May 2006, 16:25 pm
Butch is overrated, he is not the answer at flyhalf and will probably cost the Boks a game or two by being sent off for not using his arms…
23 May 2006, 16:25 pm
Steyn you are idiot. Shut up and support the guys or piss off.
23 May 2006, 16:25 pm
Phone Dr Noakes
23 May 2006, 16:26 pm
Swapo, Butch was by far the best fly-half in 2004. And his discipline has improved. Unless you are stuck back in time? He tackles hard and gets the backs going.
23 May 2006, 16:26 pm
Ebay.
The biggest benefit is to think that MAYBE and just maybe we will get a real flyhalf playing flyhalf.
Not one province in SA had a guy they would ink in before any other team member.
Jissie. we fill in the number 10 last. hectic for a coach.
23 May 2006, 16:27 pm
Ig, i know that comment of yours was tongue in cheek but Robbie Fleck really is a legend… Any oke who can take the AB’s apart is one. MJ, Fleckie and Rayt Mordt…
23 May 2006, 16:29 pm
Calm down Shai. I can understand the guys fearing that Butch will cost the boks penalties or worse still yello cards. Remeber how the refs used to target him? Also he usually only used his hands to throw punches.
23 May 2006, 16:29 pm
I was being seriaaaaas wpw
23 May 2006, 16:33 pm
wpw
We make okes legends easily dont you think.
The problem I have with that is how do you measure the legends who DONT score tries.
I mean , some tightheads have taken scrums apart and revieved a few extra pork chops with the after dinner meal as reward. They also paid for the guys taxi home probably. But certainly did not dedicate hall of fame status upon them and far as I remember the words like legend were not even used in their presence.
Come on buddy. be real or lets get real.
Fleck scored a few good tries.
but hey so did marius.
23 May 2006, 16:33 pm
i am a wp/stormers supporter and i rate butch as one of SA’s best flyhalfs if not the best when on form. he is a brilliant player and together with Davidson they basically carried the Sharks to 2 x S12 Finals… Butch also sorted out his tacking ages ago. Even if he did tackle like that every so often it would keep the opposition on their toes. Here we have a player who the NZ’ers and also the Aussies respect and they are damn scared of him too.
What do our supporters do? They say he is ****. I would rather prefer an in form Butch playing in a WC semi final than Jaco or Hougie or even Pretorius!
23 May 2006, 16:34 pm
Steyn
answer me please pal.
kindest thanks
23 May 2006, 16:34 pm
Butch is overplayed
23 May 2006, 16:35 pm
amazon, i know. I know mj, fleckie and skinstad are not legends like Mordt, small, naas, etc. If you are a regular on KEO you will know why i am saying Fleckie is a legend. Does anyone know who exactly started it?
Ig?
23 May 2006, 16:35 pm
wpw
ditto to your words old chap
23 May 2006, 16:38 pm
WPW
keo started it with his articles about how he was doing overseas.
Halstead nearly had the legend word slip in there,,,, but keo will never allow.
I had to squash the idea…. You can understand that there are people reading this and not knowing about the LEGEND status offered so humouresly
23 May 2006, 16:39 pm
Now if only we can find out if Mallet will offer butch a contract. I hope he will come to the Cape…
23 May 2006, 16:39 pm
Butch has a good strategic brain I recon I just can’t stand teh way he tackles.
He runs in as though he is goign to destroy the person he is aiming for any decent flyhalf just has to step half a metre to teh side and he goes flyign by half way down the pitch and is out of the game for teh next 2 minutes.
The lack of arms makes it so easy to step outside his tackle. I can’t believe he hasn’t changed this over all the years.
Ok when he does eventually hit someone it hurts but the amount of times this happens is few and far between.
Until his moer them attitude changes he is just average.
Jaco is a brilliant rugby brain and has ample pace of the mark and vision to spare. First choice by a long way.
I think he is lacking confidence at teh moment to back himself to attack teh line. Typical SA supporters ruining a talented players self asteem.
When he just got back from overseas i.e Tri-nations 2004 where we won he was at his best. 2 years with stupid SA supporter that can’t se his talent and his confidence is down again.
Also seen with many others including PERCY!!
23 May 2006, 16:41 pm
***** James is a Rugby League player and not just because shoulder charges are legal in Diet Rugby.
23 May 2006, 16:41 pm
What’s wrong with Fleck? I think some of you just have sour grapes coz you have not made it like Fleck has. Who are you? What are you? Does anyone know who you are?
23 May 2006, 16:41 pm
amazon, do you support the Sharks?
As for Halstead, i hope JW calls him up for the Boks. He is really doing well overseas and he almost always gets over the advantage line. the sharks wouldve made the semis if halstead was still in durban…
23 May 2006, 16:43 pm
is there anybody out there who wish we could use tony brown?
23 May 2006, 16:44 pm
Butch James is n “game loser” ! Hy is strafskop en n kaart op twee bene! Skinstad was n show case en n never was. Ja robbie fleck was wel een van die senter van suid afrika wat enige ou kon laat worry het as hy aan die bal gevat het!
23 May 2006, 16:44 pm
calm down bigg. fleckie was good but not consistent enough to be a great like danie gerber or james small…
amazon, can you see what i mean about South Sydney ******? They are vrek scared of butch…
Mike H, he hasnt tackled recklessly for quite a while now…
23 May 2006, 16:46 pm
bigg
china, it may have struck a personal chord with you but with most I think it is simple opinion. not breaking someone down but rather limiting their percieved status to one that inadvertadly does not show MORE disrespect to ones who have bled on the rugby field before him.
but if fleck is a legend to you then he is I guess. so your point is actually taken.
23 May 2006, 16:47 pm
ja min_gepla, daai show case het vir jou land n TN titel gewen en n hele paar oorwinnings agtermekaar. 17 as ek reg is…
23 May 2006, 16:48 pm
Amazon
Marius is a legend !!!!
23 May 2006, 16:49 pm
wpw.
ja , but first SA.
i agree re Halstead.
jacobs or barrit outside and the zulu boys will score everytime they touch the ball.
23 May 2006, 16:50 pm
rude
Marius is a legend . I am glad somewone agrees.
jislaaik . i thought no one was going to see the light. some times I think people have no real rugby knowledge
23 May 2006, 16:51 pm
It amazes me how ppl can criticize good players who represented SA but just becos they played for a rival province it gets said that they are overrated or were just not good enough.
I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion but when ppl call guys like skinstad or butch or fleckie **** players then i just have to wonder about the type of supporters we have out there.
Eg. I support WP but i wish we had guys like bakkies or P3 in the WP team, or a guy like gary botha, or juan smith or ruan pienaar. It doesnt matter to me if i support wp, i still think Juan is better than JVN or Ruan is currently better than Bolla and De Kock…
23 May 2006, 16:51 pm
WPW – I was actually not having a go at you – we mates remember
Allot of people on this site have said some derogatory things about him in teh past which pisses me off – that is pure jealousy. **** I would love to walk into a pub and everyone knows who you are.
23 May 2006, 16:51 pm
Ek dog Rugby is n span sport!
23 May 2006, 16:52 pm
Amazon
Marius is a legend. I mean, look at the hard driving tackles he made in the Bulls game.
Legend man, legend…
23 May 2006, 16:52 pm
Butch cant tackle. Cant kick. Cant get the backline running. Gives away a yellow/red card in every game.
Why is he there?
23 May 2006, 16:53 pm
WPW – well said! I would love to have Ruan, Juan, Fourie, jaco, bakkies matfield & co in the CAPE…
23 May 2006, 16:54 pm
bigg
george bush walking into a baghdad bar. Something along those lines ?
I know what you mean, we all want to have some respect. Aretha Franklin style
23 May 2006, 16:54 pm
I think Gus theron is a legend of note – he must be in the hall of fame
23 May 2006, 16:55 pm
Bigg
Why dont you just support another province. Much easier than to get all those in the Cape
23 May 2006, 16:56 pm
Rude
But unfortunately if you want to be a centre for SA now you have to have you hair even longer and longer now. And blonder.
White boots also help
23 May 2006, 16:56 pm
min_gepla
jy’s reg maar hoe is dit dat jy vergeet dat hy ook in daai span was. hy het baie goed gespeel toe hy onder mallet gespeel het…
nickster
which games are you talking about? Any recent ones? When last was butch james sent off in a rugby game?His last full season was in S12 2003 and he took the Sharks to the final… Was he **** then too?
23 May 2006, 16:58 pm
Amazon
Speaking of George Bush; Just in from News 24
“BUSH PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FIRE Crawford, Texas (AP) — A tragic fire this morning destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. The fire began in the presidential bathroom where both of the books were kept. The bathroom suffered severe smoke and water damage during the one alarm blaze, and both books were completely destroyed. A spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had almost finished coloring the second one.”
23 May 2006, 17:00 pm
Butch is our very own Johnny Wilkinson.
23 May 2006, 17:01 pm
Rudebud – there is no way I could leave my belovered WP/Stormers. I know they playing really KUK rugby at the moment but I can’t leave the sinking ship. I have a feeling though next year we will have some life boats and tugs to help us to become Super 14 2007 champs he he
Must go guys cheers
23 May 2006, 17:01 pm
Rude
I must go now china. Thanks for spur.
I as a last comment would like to see tim dlulane take solly ‘s place. or just get a look into the ext squad.
Long live rugby.
23 May 2006, 17:03 pm
wpw, I dont know the stats, but Butch got a card in almost every one of his tests.
Who CARES about Super 12/14. Theres a big difference between that and playing for the Boks.
They should just call him Mr Red Card.
23 May 2006, 17:03 pm
let Butch play-he’s the sort of player who brings the right attitude to the camp and at his best takes n defences with unmatched conviction. The sort of player you would follow into Mordor.
23 May 2006, 17:07 pm
i guess we will have to agree to disagree nickster…
Last yr Schalk Burger also got a few yellows and jake dropped him for a game or two but quickly realised what a big mistake it had been. I suppose i will do the research for you and try to find out how many times butch was sent off. Cant be more than once. (red cards that is)
23 May 2006, 17:08 pm
mpho
You have a way with words. I agree
What I would like to know is if you had to choose 1 player fifteen times over to play each position on the field. Who would it be????
15 schalk burgers ? but you front row will be weak.
15 ollies ?
15 brent russels ?
15 bakkies’ ?
how about 15 schalk britz’s
23 May 2006, 17:10 pm
15 Pierre Spiesse
23 May 2006, 17:11 pm
amazon, in my opinion schalk brits is overrated.
If you had to choose based on talent alone or attitude i would go for:
talent: JDV/Jantjes/Fourie
attitude: Burger/Bakkies/Juan Smith
23 May 2006, 17:12 pm
Min
You think they would beat a fifteen of wahl bartmans. you will battle with the rolling malls / Maybe
Remember ” where there is a wahl ….. there is a way”
23 May 2006, 17:13 pm
wpw
so who would your 15 man team to w cup then be.
15 jantjies’s
or 15 burgers ?
23 May 2006, 17:15 pm
Amazon
I will take 15 Ollie’s. Just remember to turn them around at halftime so that they can play in the opposite direction
23 May 2006, 17:16 pm
Why am i not surprised, min gepla seems to be a bulls supporter… i reckon he doesnt even support the other bok players playing for other provincial teams…
23 May 2006, 17:18 pm
amazon, jdv’s. 15 burgers on the field will only give me 6 players left at halftime. the rest would either be sin binned or sent packing
23 May 2006, 17:18 pm
cheers, let me be off like a muslim’s foreskin.
23 May 2006, 17:19 pm
Ja ek is maar ek is en trots daar op. Maar ek kyk nou nie hier na die trui nie ek kyk na die rugby speler en ek se jou jou hy gaan nog een van die groot springbok name word{pierre Spies}
23 May 2006, 17:19 pm
Rude
you are taking only one risk involved in that deal.
post match dinners ?
post match dinner VENUE. I mean the church hall wont fit everyone.
youve got to think about sponsors willingnes to sponsor jerseys. No 1 … they will spend double or tripple on fabric
No 2…… The sponsors logo may be distorted after being stretched like that and read something else. Much like the guy with the tatto on his ding dong.
Lots of problem my friend…….Think very very very carefully before you sign anything.
23 May 2006, 17:19 pm
wpw.
you are funny.
I am also really off now too.
Pump it Rude and co
23 May 2006, 17:23 pm
Amazon
Cheers boet; of as well.
23 May 2006, 17:27 pm
I’m not too sure about Butch, with that swinging arm around the opposition’s neck and shoulder charging in the tackle…hopefully he has had enough reflection time and is going to use his brain this time round!!!
23 May 2006, 17:27 pm
15 frik du preez’s or zinzan brook’s please..
23 May 2006, 17:30 pm
Coldwatershark..You are right. Mpho excellent comments
23 May 2006, 17:42 pm
butch is by far the best flyhalf we have… and geeze okes that still complain about his tackling obviously hasnt watched his last 20 or so games…
i wont say he is a legend yet (but definitely better than fleckie ‘who’ and i a bobby boy… butch s actually a rugby player.. ad hard and respected one at that…
23 May 2006, 17:47 pm
big g,
Stop talking **** – Butch hasnt played 20 games in the last 3 years. And 2 years ago he was still auditioning for WWF with his clothesline wrestling moves.
23 May 2006, 17:49 pm
and ‘the rock’ was scared senseless as well, just like the aussies and kiwi’s…
23 May 2006, 17:49 pm
Butch needs to be in the flyhalf mix – if he comes good he’ll be our No 1.
I mean, look at our choices:
AP -inconsistent and injury-prone. Can be brilliant, then throws it all away with a brain-****.
Jaco – confuses himself and/or his team mates or kicks the ball away at 100mph.
Monty – has been steady rather than spectacular for the Sharks, but only a stop-gap.
Bosman – talented, but too inexperienced. 50/50 option-taking.
Morne Steyn – too young and confused by being coached by HM and playing outside FdP “serial skopper”.
de Waal, Grant, Hougaard – all too limited.
Who else then – James is well worth a shout.
23 May 2006, 17:49 pm
Jake White should stick to Hougaard and form him into a complete flyhalf. Hes a specialist flyhalf that can kick like hell, defends well and has all the other abilities that Jake needs.
Jake has a whole year, Derick is the man.
23 May 2006, 17:51 pm
big g,
How can you claim that butch “I’m always injured” James is a better player than Skinny and Fleckie when he’s hardly had a professioanl career?
Fleck played 31 tests, butch played 9… but you want to compare them…
Oh and skinstad played 34…
23 May 2006, 17:52 pm
To compare butch to fleckie and skinstad is laughable. I rate butch but how many tests has he played for SA? Fleckie and Bobby have done well for SA. Definitely deserved to be there and were pretty good players for the Boks… Espec Skinstad…
23 May 2006, 17:55 pm
great minds think alike né vinnie?
the king ‘aka’ die waarheid
Is jy van jou kop af. Hougaard cant even make the bulls team. he is **** and shouldve moved to wp last yr when he had the chance…
citizen c, good comments bro…
23 May 2006, 17:56 pm
derickak ja… come one sometimes i wonder if certain one eye supporters can look past provincialsm and actually pick the best players and not just because he is a bul and maak die bulle amal bokke nie.. geeze derick and steyn like grant rose and jaco (matchstick scary poof squeek to me) are all so limited in the allround category and like farts in a thunderstorm will be blown away the first time a real rugby player hits them hard…
bosman, i think is a good prospect, and pretorius is lethal when not injured and on form and butch, well in my humble opinion, he is the man…
23 May 2006, 17:58 pm
fleckie was always the laughing stock of the bacline and his defense was kak to put it mildly, at least he had a temper and some yellow cards… bobby had all the skill but none of the brains, which could work, but didnt for him as he shoulda’ve played a lot mre tests than what he did…
23 May 2006, 17:59 pm
How do even know if Butch is good enough – its not like we’ve been able to judge him on current form (how if he hasnt palyed) and his form before he got injured was terrible.
He does look the part and looks a lot mor comfortable than the rest but im afraid he’s another jonny wilkinson and i dont think he’ll ever play another compelte season.
wpw… great minds mate…
23 May 2006, 18:00 pm
cause he smahed up his knee big g… you have selective memory mate…
23 May 2006, 18:00 pm
I have to say im a bull , but cannot stand hougard
23 May 2006, 18:01 pm
Got this from IOL:
Fears that Butch James’s career is once again in the balance have proved unfounded after the Sharks flyhalf said that the groin strain he picked at the Springbok training camp in Bloemfontein was not serious.
“I could have trained yesterday (Sunday) if I wanted to but I decided to rest and I’ll be running again on Wednesday,†said James on Monday night.
“I’ve just strained my groin, nothing else. I think it might be because of the cold weather in Bloem, which my body isn’t used to, but I’m pretty sure I’ll be fine.â€
The 27-year-old has suffered crippling knee injuries for the past three years and has spent more time in the stands than on the field.
23 May 2006, 18:03 pm
Think he’s going to kak a bit in France then next year…
23 May 2006, 18:04 pm
Can anybody confirm how many games he has played over the last three years?
23 May 2006, 18:06 pm
big g, stop being so biased. butch is a good player but not yet in the same class as skinstad. Bobby had vision, good hands and could link the forwards with the backs. I watched him play most of the tests he did and he was brilliant. To say he had no brains is a joke. He was actually one of the more intelligent players who actually think on the field.
I will always rate a guy who doesnt just wanna bash over the opposistion, even Juan Smith does this, Burger, and most of the bulls plsyers.
Cheers, i’m leaving now…
23 May 2006, 18:06 pm
o ja, bobby injured his knee in that “car accident” mos, clever boytjie…
23 May 2006, 18:07 pm
23 May 2006, 18:07 pm
wpw certain things like brains etc you only find out if you personally meet the guy or play with or against him…
23 May 2006, 18:08 pm
If Bobby is so clever why does he play centre for richmond rugby club!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
23 May 2006, 18:09 pm
okay big g.
I’ve met Bob. Several times. And he’s a bright guy. He talks **** on sky but he’s still a bright chap.
23 May 2006, 18:12 pm
okay min_gepla,
It looks like i have to explain this to you.
Bob IS NO LONGER A PRO RUGBY PLAYER. He plays to keep fit and he plays with his boet.
Bob has more than enough on his plate to keep him busy including a job at saatchi&saatchi, one of the most prestigious advertising firms in the world.
He also has interest in more businesses than you have uopa vessies and only plays rugger for fun now, the way it should be.
23 May 2006, 18:12 pm
So did Bolla rub Deepheat on the strained ‘muscle’, or is that just a rumour…?
23 May 2006, 18:13 pm
Was it his muscle or somebody else’s?
23 May 2006, 18:15 pm
The Carter-Mauger combo – virtually 2 flyhalves next to each other – for the ABs and Crusaders brings a thought to mind.
Butch’s style of play could be surprisingly effective with a de Villiers or Bosman at inside centre, but certainly not Barry. Would be defensively solid too.
23 May 2006, 18:36 pm
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT JANNIE DU PLESSIS IS DOING IN WHITE’S BOK SQUAD???
IT SEEMS AS WHITE MIGHT NEED BACKUP TO STEADY EDDIE… AS YOU CAN SEE WHITE ALSO DOESN’T FULLY TRUST EDDIE’S SKILLS.
But i guess Jannie is there only for the world XV or just in case for the test against the scots, thats all he is gonna get this year being a bok… maybe a one-jersey wonder!?
Keo confirm!!!!
23 May 2006, 18:57 pm
vinnie then with all respect mate, u cant be the sharpest tool in the shed either..
23 May 2006, 19:02 pm
23 May 2006, 19:09 pm
people like steyn and co called butch an idiot ??? look in the mirror ya f**ing dorks hes prolly 100 ttimes brighter then you
2ndly 90 % of you saying hes useless its purely ur pathetic provinscialism comming out sadly you need to grow up
butch cant tackle??? he happens to tackle and put the fear into the sheep shagging kiwi’s and roo banging aussies thats why they had to try get rid of him with **** publicity
if he played for province or bulls for example youd be worshipping him
heres another example of fickle supporters
marius joubert was a hero there for so long
he nhow goes through a slump like any sportsman and most of you say hes rubbish and who knows what else you call him?? did you province or SA supporters call him that when he was playing great rugga???? seriously some of you are pathetic
23 May 2006, 19:13 pm
And sharks_lover calls us one-eyed
And for the record I still support the dream team of barry and MJ…
23 May 2006, 19:19 pm
wpw bobby was a good player yes and yes he could make things happen but to have left out teichmann for him is worst mistake ever made in bok rugby
teichmann at the time was the best 8thman but also the greatest capt for SA ever even louis luyt admitted that in his book
butch is the skinstad type player because he does a lot of the unexpected and also one doesnt compare a flyhalf and a 8thman
compare apples with apples
and im not gonna run down bobby he did his best and thats what we should remember
23 May 2006, 19:21 pm
Butch is a idiot , he says all this **** and when he plays next week he`s gonna injure his knee or groin for sure , then it is gonna be serious !!!
Jake should get Derick there right now , he is a gr8 player , and he will play even better if he`s around de Villiers , Montgomery , J.Fourie , just give him a chance !!!
And to WPW post 81 – Derick can`t make the team if he is injured you idiot !!! you just jealous cause he`s not playing for your kak team !!!
23 May 2006, 19:22 pm
actually vinnie im not one eyes i wasnt running down anyplayer read carefully and also ur not one of those idiots i was referring to as i didnt find ur comments bad
23 May 2006, 19:27 pm
hougaard now you are one of the idiots i was referring to
wpw is atleast an honest and open minded rugby supporter
and not provinscialistic like you
for one ur prolly hougaards gat gubba ? you bend for him??
yes he kicks great i wont argue that
but he doesnt get his backline away great and doesnt read the game all that great thats why even the blou trulle dropped him
theres in morne steyn a far better flyhalf then hougaard
open ur eyes mate see the light ur stuck in darkness
23 May 2006, 19:29 pm
and heres one for the record if played properly and in the right position jaques fouries is prolly south africa’s best rugby player
23 May 2006, 19:32 pm
WPW bro i agree min gepls is a total idiot and seriously needs to be ignored
he never hAS anything good to say about any player unless hes a blue bull
sad case of idiocy
23 May 2006, 19:35 pm
eish now vinnie went silent , me thinks i pissed on his batteries lol jk
23 May 2006, 19:36 pm
bulls supporters seldom has anything good to say about other good players, cause then al die bulle is mos nie bokke nie..
23 May 2006, 19:38 pm
i recon this bok backline could course havock
15 percy / jvdw
14 snyman
13 fourie
12 jdv
11 habana
10 james
9 pienaar
23 May 2006, 19:40 pm
just about right here…
but i would one day in the merry future like to see jaque fourie in the full back position again…
23 May 2006, 19:43 pm
lol gerhardt
min gepla is pure boknaai lol
and for the record although hes a great inside center i recon if his kicking is worked on a little bradley barritt could be the next honibal and i dont doubt that for a minute
23 May 2006, 19:46 pm
gerhardt fourie is such a talent he shines in any position and hes so big and strong hed prolly play great at flank too
but outside center is his best position , i do agree though if we have a problem at full back hed be a great option
23 May 2006, 19:49 pm
gerhardt is the other chap from our sharks site.. om the one who flirts with vanessa, sharkgirl and reds etc, please do not get us confused he he…
the thing is fourie cutting in from full back, big stroong and at pace, geeze that will be awesome to watch, these jac and percy poofetrs are just a bit too light and scared…
23 May 2006, 19:54 pm
in 2 years time after the worldcup:
15 fourie
14 olivier/jdv
13 jdv/murray
12 barrit
11 habana
10 butch
9 pienaar
maybe a bit biast and optimistic but they…
23 May 2006, 19:55 pm
he he…
23 May 2006, 20:59 pm
Why doesn’t Jake back Meyer Bosman? The guys showed some promise. Ask Naas Botha, Joel Stransky or Henri Honnibal to take the young lad under their wing. Or doesn’t Jake rate their input?
15.) Percy Montgomery
14.) Tonderai Chavanga
13.) Andre Snyman
12.) Jean de Villiers
11.) Jaque Fourie
10.) Meyer Bosman
9.) Ruan Pienaar
8.) AJ Venter
7.) Juan Smith
6.) Schalk Burger
5.) Victor Matfield
4.) Danie Rossouw
3.) Eddie Andrews
2.) John Smit
1.) Os Du Randt
23 May 2006, 21:01 pm
How bout giving this team a run, at least against the Scots
23 May 2006, 22:57 pm
Sharks_Lover
FYI Derick Hougaad wasnt dropped he got injured in the game against the Blues , and I am not provincialistic I know who the best flyhalf in the country is . But you would probaly say Butch James cause you are provincialistic !!
Oh yes , before I forget … I am not your mate , I am a girl !!!! So piss off to your boring team and kiss my arse !!!
23 May 2006, 23:04 pm
The fella I’d love to see at fullback is Brian Habana – he’d be another Christian Cullen.Jaque Fourie wouldn’t be a bad option though, but he’s good anywhere in the backline..
Brian’s creativity is wasted on the wing, and we have some fine young centres coming through.
24 May 2006, 02:05 am
Everyone goes on about how **** Butch’s defense is bla bla. They forget that the last time he played like that was back in 2002. Funny how people can’t see past first impressions. In 2003 with that Scottish flyhalf townsend with him he calmed down and played some great rugby, playing in every game I think. In 2004 he also played the whole season and was the best flyhalf in the country by far. This was the last real time Butch played, how can you say he’s been **** if he was by far the best flyhalf in the country when he played. Jake White made no secrets about the fact that he was his first choice flyhalf. Jake White knows how good players are and picks them whether in form or not knowing that he can get them back to form either through the right confidence building or correct coaching. Butch when he’s over his groin and fit again is our best bet at flyhalf. Watch him be devestating in the trinations.
24 May 2006, 02:37 am
Butch James’s tackling is really perfectly armless.
24 May 2006, 07:30 am
About time we have a Bok with a little more aggression and combativeness.Go you good thing and show Pretender Pretorious and Jackass Jaco the way.
24 May 2006, 08:10 am
Thanks tackler, and you are completely dickless
24 May 2006, 08:19 am
YoMama # 6, on the roid issue in the Bloem cold the only roids he’ll be getting is hema -roids.
24 May 2006, 08:20 am
Very punny Tackler.
24 May 2006, 08:34 am
If butch stays uninjured till the world cup,he will be the flyhalf that helps south africa win the cup next year.
24 May 2006, 11:58 am
Tiaan Snyman is a better bet;
Jorrie at 12
eish; legends in the making
24 May 2006, 12:23 pm
15. J Fourie
14. O Ndungane
13. JDV
12. W Olivier
11. Habana
10. Butch
11. Ruan Pienaar
24 May 2006, 13:02 pm
nice backline just missing Hougie on no10
24 May 2006, 13:16 pm
Hougie is useless and all u Bull supporters want him in.
24 May 2006, 13:29 pm
hougie useless?? how dare u call the point machine useless….. last time he played against butch …. butch couldnt play he was so stressed out and also hougie got 3 curriecup wins under him how many does butch have ? zeroooooo
24 May 2006, 13:36 pm
Hougaardt is Kak, he’d be the last guy I’d put flyhalf. Morne Steyn is alot better but is a bit inconsistent
24 May 2006, 14:35 pm
yeah a kak player that won so many games and that score so many points. Sure — thats why Western Province the top team cos they have all the “good” players.
poepel @ jean div and thanx for letting us reach the semi-final with your distinctive tackling.
24 May 2006, 20:13 pm
firstly hougaard girl i dont kiss dirty **** *** so stfu you idiot………..
2ndly the sharks boring ??? you thick ******** wake up all the world knows the bulls are the most boring they only know one style and if they didnt buy refs they loose far more then they would win??
youre arrogant and totaly one eyed
you see i can name players that to me are the best in SA rugby and fourie truelly is .. then again what does an idiot know about rugby!!!!!!!!!
and he aint a shark ………. look past ur own team for a change …freaking clown
24 May 2006, 20:16 pm
mmmmmm ****** ur name says it all……
is it at all possible to look past a bull player for you poor people in pretoria????
its a springbok team not blue bulls team
and unlike you i dont care who they put in the team i try support not damn play selector so theres a big diffs and if they put hougaard in the team id still support would you with james there??
the way you carry on i guess not
iots like the pathetic song you play at loftus everytime you get points … that says it all
24 May 2006, 20:22 pm
nou terug om met normale mense te praat
i have to agree that if butch stay injured for now id use the free state kid……… although to me barritt is a better bet with passing and running skills meyer bosman does offer a good boot and that helps a lot
if not him use morne steyn he is a good flyhalf
and his defence has gotten much better
if butch is injured though i reckon bok back like could look like this
percy
snyman
fourie
jdv
habana
jvdw
pienaar
and in anyones language thats a good backline
24 May 2006, 20:24 pm
maak die sharks almal bokke lol
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