Boks have Test attitude
2 Jun 2006
Springbok coach Jake White has a proud unbeaten record on home soil. And he is not about to let that slip against the World XV tomorrow.
“The law of averages will dictate that we will eventually lose at home,” White said at Friday’s press conference. “But we are working hard to maintain that record for as long as we can. A defeat against the World XV is not an option.”
Stand-in captain Jean de Villiers says everything has gone according to plan. “The preparation this week has been very good. Although it is not official, we are approaching this match as if it is a Test. The only thing that has changed is the captain,” grinned de Villiers.
The Boks are favourites to beat an experienced, but ageing World XV at Ellis Park tomorrow, which will provide a fantastic launching pad for the more important assignments later this month. Two Tests against Scotland should be easily negotiated, before the crunch June fixture against a full-strength France in Cape Town.
The altitude is also expected to be a major factor for the team that was thumped 46-19 by England last weekend.
The team that runs out at Ellis Park is likely to change dramatically by the time the Boks take on France, especially with several first-choice players due back from injury.
However, the team de Villiers leads out tomorrow has exactly 400 Test caps between them – and they are considered a second-string outfit. When White started his career as Bok coach against Ireland in Bloemfontein in 2004, the team that gave him an opening 31-17 win had just 179 caps.
It illustrates just how far the Boks have come under White’s guidance.
By Andrew Hollely
179 Comments
2 Jun 2006, 13:42 pm
De Villiers is a LEGEND!!! But not yet in the same class as Fleckie!!!
2 Jun 2006, 13:46 pm
De Villiers is good, no need to argue that, but he has alot to learn to be the best in his position in the world. But he will get there.
2 Jun 2006, 13:49 pm
handbag
That is our favourite quote
“he will get there”
2 Jun 2006, 13:51 pm
Wpw – you can’t compare Jean to Fleckie. Fleckie was too much of a hot-head..!! Jean’s more of a thinker, and an intelligent footballer. No comparison in my books.
2 Jun 2006, 13:51 pm
jake white is a clone of clive woodward , i think he must have written every word woodward said down and changed a few thigs and know he repeats them …
hopefully jake white will quit soon and manage kazier chiefs …
2 Jun 2006, 13:56 pm
grey,
You’re not a Jake man, are you?
2 Jun 2006, 13:59 pm
Jondood, what I mean is that he needs to work on some aspects of his game before we can call him world class, but I think he will be better than Fleckie, remember when Kayser made Fleckie look like an idiot? I will always remeber that.
2 Jun 2006, 14:00 pm
Foxache ,
i am counting the seconds till he gets booted and we get a new coach …
2 Jun 2006, 14:01 pm
Fleckie is a legend of note!
2 Jun 2006, 14:01 pm
Jake White is the man to take us to the World Cup.
2 Jun 2006, 14:08 pm
I reckon Jean is much better than Fleckie already!
2 Jun 2006, 14:12 pm
De Villiers – 20 test caps & 11 tries
Fleck – 31 test caps & 10 tries
I am aware that De Villiers played alot of games on the wing before anyone raises that point!
2 Jun 2006, 14:18 pm
Fleck was ‘n ****** clown
2 Jun 2006, 14:23 pm
Ons vleuels is minstens bedrieglik….bedrieglik stadig
2 Jun 2006, 14:29 pm
O vok hier’s Jeremy weer.
2 Jun 2006, 14:40 pm
Grey based on what exactly? as very succesfull tenure as Coach?
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Or because you just dont like him and would prefer to see Cobus Vandermerwe in his place
2 Jun 2006, 14:41 pm
wpw, Do you know what a legend is? De Veliers has playd 20 test caps and scored 11 tries and you call him a legend. Legends are centres like Danie Gerber, Manetjies Roux, Jogie Jansen, John Gainsford. I would have understood if you said Pieter Muller, Japie Mulder, Henie Le Roux and even Andre Snyman but Jean De Veliers is no where near being a legend!
2 Jun 2006, 14:42 pm
o mejufrou, vok n krok. ****** foken foken…
2 Jun 2006, 14:43 pm
no arguing with what jw has done, but i’m worried that the same guy who got us from 6th to 2nd, may be the reason that we may end up 4th or 5th again. my reason for thinking so? not selecting in form players (yeah, i know class blah blah blah), giving the opposition their teamtalk and not keeping his options open (cobus visagie will NEVER play for the boks). his know-it-all, never-wrong attitude,may cost us in the end.
2 Jun 2006, 14:43 pm
Aaah. Imagine Jean apprenticing on the inside with the legend that is Fleckie mentoring and providing tactical, mental and defensive guidance playing 13.
What a prospect…Jean, might one day then reach those dissy heights held alone in the world by Robbie
2 Jun 2006, 14:46 pm
there is something wrong with all of the dudes here…Fleck is no legend he was and still is a idiot….get with the program idiots
2 Jun 2006, 14:47 pm
Nice article Andrew
The Boks should win well, but neither Jaco nor Ricky have shown great form this year.
I’d certainly think of Jean as much of a hot head as Fleckie, but he looked like a rabbit in the headlights in yesterday’s interview snippet on Boots ‘n All, so maybe he’s just finding his feet. Jean has too many flashes of petulance for me to believe he’ll scale great heights, irrespective of his talent. I hope the captaincy settles him down. The Wet One is pretty solid in mid field though and maybe he’ll turn out for the CC.
Can’t see why all the aggro about Jake though, he’s done all right. He does communicate a bit like a teacher but at least he’s better than all his predecessors except Mallet. Straueli always reminded me of a refugee from Joost’s security company.
Gafster in the team is a puzzle. He must be as much of a gamble as picking any one of the young bloods, or even Russell. His BMT seems absent almost always.
I would have selected a couple of replacement centres for the bench from the Sharks or Cheetahs. An outrageous gamble would be to play Russell at 10 with good front foot ball. His acceleration could embarass Spencer, hell even Jaco’s got enough acceleration I suppose.
2 Jun 2006, 14:48 pm
bergie
fleckie kon nie eers al daardie goed (tactics, defence…) self bemeester nie- hoe de hel gaan hy iemand mentor?
2 Jun 2006, 14:49 pm
Dawn 15
Perhaps they’re suggesting you put a cap on it all?
2 Jun 2006, 14:53 pm
What’s eating you Sarky.
Put a cap on the length of your posts.
2 Jun 2006, 14:54 pm
ja, nice article Andrew.
2 Jun 2006, 14:57 pm
All people above r very unfair on White. Ever since re-admittance the Boks have been good on year, losers the next. Under White they have been competitive 2 years on the trot and i invisage the same for this year!
2 Jun 2006, 14:58 pm
leean
I do agree with you…but if the muppets here can’t put anything negetive they will have nothing to talk about
2 Jun 2006, 15:02 pm
Steyn
pls stop being so negative over the other muppits…
2 Jun 2006, 15:03 pm
lol suparrugby……….i hear what you are saying
2 Jun 2006, 15:03 pm
To all the above, Fleck was great and i will always feel sorry for him, coz he was discarded in his prime. However Jaque Fourie would run Flecks’ **** into the ground, and be able to repeat that week in week out. Jaque Fourie will the best 13 in the world soon and remain there for a few years. Has anyone notice how machine like he is? No pain, never looks tired, energy comnig out the wazoo!
Comparing JDV to Damien Traille, Traille wins for me coz of his kicking, but JDV can break the game line. If Butch can click at 12 with Fourie and JDV goes back to the wing, the BOks will destroy everybody
2 Jun 2006, 15:04 pm
2 Jun 2006, 15:05 pm
butch is not the answer at 12
2 Jun 2006, 15:06 pm
ASHA1 do you knwo Jake White?
I know him and when you chat to him he is a far different person to how the Press portray him.
A famouse Quote from Derick Warwick
“Believe nothing you read in the press and 10% of what you see on the news”
2 Jun 2006, 15:06 pm
leeanthony,
i agree with your general sentiment, but your choice of wording is likely to make fleckie squeamish.
2 Jun 2006, 15:07 pm
wls, he actually looks like one of the most softspoken self-effacing guys i’ve seen. saw him at a keo get together at the walkabout with Nick Mallet.
2 Jun 2006, 15:08 pm
And the other legend Bob is also back in SA and in CPT.
It is almost enough to make me go out and buy a bottle of Tassies – the good old days…
2 Jun 2006, 15:09 pm
I know JDV/Fourie will be first choice. I have a sneeky suspicion White is looking for another 13 to partner Julies. TO be honest i liked seeing Julies/Fourie, coz Julies will never do anything stupid he will just play his normal game and feed Fourie. JDV can be a bit of a show boater and try and take on the world himself!!! But it seems like White may use Julies/Wynand.
2 Jun 2006, 15:09 pm
i dont think jake white likes me very much.
ah well.
2 Jun 2006, 15:12 pm
leenanthony, afraid we part ways on Julies, he is supakak. 1st choice 12 is Jdv, 2nd DwB and 3rd WO.
2 Jun 2006, 15:13 pm
PissAnt – that’s why you are not in squad….unlucky pal!
2 Jun 2006, 15:13 pm
CAB i bumped into him after there first trip to UK, and he was so honest about the loss to England and open about the things that went wrong. yet to half the poepals on here that makes him a prick. As opposed to someone like Straulli who kept saying (even after the world cup) Judge me then. JW walks the walk.
God only knows why Bok supporters are so negative. Must be a dutchmen attitude. (as a nation we are very negative – this comes from our forfathers sleeping with everything they encounterd on the great trek through SA )
2 Jun 2006, 15:14 pm
ben,
I knew there was a reason…
2 Jun 2006, 15:16 pm
PissAnt…politics china!
2 Jun 2006, 15:16 pm
wls
no i dont know the guy, have never met him or graham henry and thats why i think i can be more objective. i’m gonna take graham henry as example to state why i’m worried about jw. when gh started coaching the ab’s he used a flatline attack. what he wanted to achieve was good, but in practice didnt work because of teams defensive lines and the boks’ now famous rush defense. other teams learned from it and used it.
now g henry, although he and the players stated in the media that they believe that the flatline attack is the right way to go, changed it all and use a far more deeper attacking line and its working for them.
this guy was willing to look at his plan, see that it wasnt working and change it! i believe as a coach you need to be able to be proved wrong.
2 Jun 2006, 15:17 pm
wls, ya i don’t know with some of our lot sometimes, you’d swear we were still losing every other test match. PA and Ig probably right tho, perhaps he needs to invest in a PR man, but i reckon its bloody funny.
Jake is his own man, he is not a big mouth or arrgoant and as you say he has walked the walk. Its the first time in years players actually want to be involved with the boks again, isn’t it strange why all of sudden the old boks playing in foreign lands all want to come back to SA?
2 Jun 2006, 15:17 pm
Probably my Craig Davidson attitude, maybe I should ask him out for coffee.
Keo, where did you and Mallet hook up to sort out your differences?
I want to give this the best chance possible and that place obviously has something.
2 Jun 2006, 15:22 pm
cab
i agree with you bud,everyone wanted to leave when the ship was sinking,but now that it’s steady again all players overseas suddenly wanna play in the RWC under Jake White cos he has taken them back to being a force in world rugby.
2 Jun 2006, 15:24 pm
Syd Nomis made the speach at the jersey ceremony today. And, as happened in his day, he played numorous games for the Boks apart from 25 test (midweek games etc) he emphasized the importance to the Boks that every time you pull on the jersey, you represent your country.
I like the fact White is bringing back tradition etc .
2 Jun 2006, 15:27 pm
yip too right Ben,
gecko, yes Syd also got his teeth knocked out running down the wing, at newlands, if memory serves.
2 Jun 2006, 15:28 pm
cab – he probably had them pulled, a capetonian habit from the flats
2 Jun 2006, 15:29 pm
asha1 good point. But i think the main reason for the Boks sticking to the gameplan is, because it actualyl works. Bear in mind the only time it does not work is when the Bosk dont implement the plan properly.
Cab how right you are. I just get gatvoel of the total negativity that we read week in week out.. Hell who has beaten us at home in 2 seasons under white? no one. Away from home we have come mighty close in the last two seasons (a minute and three minutes) from beating the AB’S at home.. no other side in the world can claim that, yet before every season we have the same nobjockys claiming the worst BOK season yet lol.
2 Jun 2006, 15:29 pm
ha ha … no seriously, it was horrific, the whole front row went for a six in a tackle.
2 Jun 2006, 15:29 pm
lol
2 Jun 2006, 15:31 pm
Watchit Gecko
2 Jun 2006, 15:32 pm
Oaks, I think White is doing well. I think he treats players with respect. I was watching boots and All last night, and in the highlights it showed the guys celebrating the trinations win, did you see how they were hugging the oak – shows respect, they all dig him. He not stuoid like streaulie
2 Jun 2006, 15:34 pm
Dawn – No critism on Capetonians. I am from Bellville after all.
2 Jun 2006, 15:34 pm
Biggest looser coaches since re -admission:
1st: Streulie
2nd: 1992- John Williams I think
3rd: Markgraaf
2 Jun 2006, 15:35 pm
Jake White’s strong points are that he is a traditionalist and believes in continuity.3 years ago supporters were complaining that the team was chopped and changed on a weekly basis,3 years on we have the continuity SA rugby has been craving and supporters now want to change a winning team.
I think Jake is doing a fantastic job in the face of stern challenges and coming up on top more often than not.
2 Jun 2006, 15:35 pm
Bowlouw – Carel Dup for his record, although not his ideas.
2 Jun 2006, 15:36 pm
Dawn
Snoek selling well today?
2 Jun 2006, 15:36 pm
Best Coach: Kitch, White, Mallet, Mac??
2 Jun 2006, 15:37 pm
jondood – snoek always sells well in CT
2 Jun 2006, 15:37 pm
agree boylouw.
2 Jun 2006, 15:37 pm
Kitch – 14 wins in 14 games……can’t argue with that!
2 Jun 2006, 15:38 pm
good: Kitch, Mallet, White.
ok: Sonnekus, Markgraaf
average: Mac, Carel Dup
bad: Williams, Straueli
2 Jun 2006, 15:40 pm
Agree ben, SA supporters are weired. i minute they hate too many changes, the next they complain that Jake always chooes the same players, one minute they are complaining there are not enough players of colour, the next there are too many, one minute there are not enough over seas players being considered, the next there are too many etc etc poor ******* – and he has to deal with all the muppit politicians who know squate about ruggers
2 Jun 2006, 15:40 pm
Jean would “FLECK” Robbie Fleck like a “pup snoek”
2 Jun 2006, 15:40 pm
MAc was good, but the dutchies did not like him
2 Jun 2006, 15:41 pm
bl – ja, but his record wasn’t great either
2 Jun 2006, 15:41 pm
dawn doesnt sell snoek, its just a body odour so leave her alone…
2 Jun 2006, 15:41 pm
Flek was a good province player – average International player.
2 Jun 2006, 15:44 pm
I think Mac laid alot of the foundation for the RWC success in ’95 but he did not have the authority & ability to create a disciplined environment like Kitch did.
Kitch’s greatest ability was that he kept things simple and they worked.
2 Jun 2006, 15:48 pm
Ja en nee. If you look at the ’95 team – Mac could never settle on Joubert as his fullback, he never played the Stransky and Le Roux combo. The front row had to be re-jigged. Kruger was brought in at flank, and Christie settled on Joost as 9. That’s quite a lot of changes.
2 Jun 2006, 15:52 pm
Jean a legend? He is very good, but not a legend. Tim Horan, Danie Gerber legends.
2 Jun 2006, 15:53 pm
guys
what we had over the last two years was consistency, which is good. as jw like to say when asked about certain players is that he know the guy’s ability at test level.
thats exactly the reason why you need to test someone else. if the experiment doesnt work, you can always fall back on your player who proved his worth at test level.
but what if, just what if, you’re experiment work.
one word for it…..
depth!!!!!
2,3 players in nearly every position keeping each other on their toes. players can be rested/ managed without weakening the team, to make sure they peak at the ultimate time….
the world cup!!
2 Jun 2006, 15:54 pm
did oom kitch ever take a team overseas?
2 Jun 2006, 15:57 pm
jdv is goed olivier is net better check hoe het easy het olivier driee gedruk
2 Jun 2006, 15:58 pm
Yes – 1994. They played Wales & Scotland in test – beat both, won all the other games except Scotland A in the rain. Beat Swansea 0 then the top Wales team 78-7.
1995 – Tests against Italy & England – won both.
2 Jun 2006, 16:00 pm
They also played against the Baa baa’s in Dublin but they lost that 25-15 playing ‘the brains game’ as Kitch called it.
2 Jun 2006, 16:01 pm
cheers gecko.
i wasnt sure.
2 Jun 2006, 16:01 pm
Jake Here…..
I pick who I want to pick, becase I can… so waa wa wa waaa waaa.
2 Jun 2006, 16:02 pm
yes PISSANT Kitch took the Boks to several major victories,in CARDIFF;EDINBURGH;ROME;TWICKEHAM
http://www.genslin.us/bokke/SARugby.html
2 Jun 2006, 16:03 pm
yes the BOKS lost to Scotland A ,the game was played at ABERDEEN GRAMMAR SCHOOL in Aberdeen
2 Jun 2006, 16:03 pm
Ben – indeed.
2 Jun 2006, 16:07 pm
why?
2 Jun 2006, 16:08 pm
actually markgraft was a good coach, helluva talent spotter, pity he was such a tyrant.
2 Jun 2006, 16:08 pm
do you guys know where one can bet a few rands on this years test results? given the attitudes of a few muppets here, i may be able to retire at the end the year!!
2 Jun 2006, 16:08 pm
the oke knew his rugby tho…
2 Jun 2006, 16:10 pm
dunno about SA betting sites,but ladbrokes in the UK are quite good.
2 Jun 2006, 16:15 pm
ben, old StM suggested oddschecker, reckon SA are at 6-1 to win the RWC. lets hope they trip up this weakend and the odds lengthen.
2 Jun 2006, 16:21 pm
that’s a tough call cab…..get rich or SA lose their unbeaten home record!
2 Jun 2006, 16:23 pm
I’ll put good money on the ozzies to sort soemthing out by next year.
WOnder what their odds are.
2 Jun 2006, 16:24 pm
was actually meaning getting rich and sa losing their unbeaten home record!!!:)
2 Jun 2006, 16:24 pm
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Better pray for wins this year….
2 Jun 2006, 16:24 pm
I’d happily replace an unbeaten home record for a better away record.
2 Jun 2006, 16:25 pm
What the hell is that? An ostrich?
2 Jun 2006, 16:26 pm
98
2 Jun 2006, 16:26 pm
99
2 Jun 2006, 16:26 pm
100 is mine!
2 Jun 2006, 16:26 pm
LOL !!!
2 Jun 2006, 16:28 pm
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!
Fooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkk !!!!!!!!!!
2 Jun 2006, 16:28 pm
(78) – Drunkblinkers . . . HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA – shot for starting my weekend off on such a funny note!
2 Jun 2006, 16:29 pm
vinnie
call me stupid (LOL), but what was that about?
2 Jun 2006, 16:30 pm
actually Ben, yeah you’re right, bugger the money, we must win it all.
2 Jun 2006, 16:52 pm
Can someone please tell me why Jake doesn’t try Jean at flyhalf? Look at some of the great flyhalves today, Carter(was inside center), Larkham(was fullback), Matt Rogers(was fullback) and even the talented Giteau. We need a guy with vision at such a critical position and Jean de Vil has most vision in backline.
Move him to flyhalf and Habana to inside with Fourie outside.
2 Jun 2006, 16:59 pm
ASHA1 ok im up for some betting
cause i back the Boks and got a feeling with the ammount of negative plonkers on here ill make a fortune.
so hows about we start with Saturdays game
R150.00 says we win by 20
2 Jun 2006, 17:00 pm
What about Fourie at 10:
http://www.suparugby.co.za/Pages/Default.asp?More=Mossie%20could%20be%20the%20next%20Larkham&FeatureID=7129&SectionID=79
2 Jun 2006, 17:02 pm
ag come on. a provincial side could beat the worls xv.
2 Jun 2006, 17:03 pm
bloody interesting gecko, hard to believe.
2 Jun 2006, 17:11 pm
Whassuuuup?
2 Jun 2006, 17:12 pm
yeah gecko,I read that yesterday with alot of interest – he’d have to work on his kicking game though…..although having played fullback at provincial level,I’d imagine it can’t be too shoddy.
2 Jun 2006, 17:13 pm
No Gecko 10 is a specialist position. I sometime think the success of Larkham at 10 wa ssimply a divine plant to set rugby discussion in SA back 30 years.
What does a home test record matter when SA to win the RWC will need to win 3 big matches away from home on consecutive weekends?
2 Jun 2006, 17:16 pm
StM, come off it, Larkham is unconventional, but he is a great flyhalf, remove your bowler hat and free your victorian mind.
2 Jun 2006, 17:19 pm
He is incredibly elusive, despite the heavy traffic in this channel he continues to slip and create gaps, wonderful players, this is one instinctive player great vision.
The brumbies/austrlia are a different outfit when he is injured. Still, Giteau and Rogers in particular could make phenomenal flyhalves.
2 Jun 2006, 17:21 pm
yes ST MICH,remove your bowler hat,paisely smokers jacket,slippers and jump in that **** infested THAMES
2 Jun 2006, 17:25 pm
post 114,just love it,laughing like hell
2 Jun 2006, 17:26 pm
StM was the whale they saw in Thames recently.
2 Jun 2006, 17:27 pm
apparantly StM has played sport at the highest level.
2 Jun 2006, 17:28 pm
Darts?
2 Jun 2006, 17:29 pm
I mean, they call it a sport here. Snooker too.
2 Jun 2006, 17:30 pm
i would bank on checkers though…
2 Jun 2006, 17:30 pm
yes i know, they are’nt proper sports, but it is only fair we let StM tell his own story.
2 Jun 2006, 17:32 pm
perhaps not…if i was a betting man, tiddlywinks.
2 Jun 2006, 17:34 pm
He’s just grumpy cos England are 6th in the world and even though Australia lost 8 out of 9 tests last year,they are still ranked higher than england!
2 Jun 2006, 17:34 pm
STM bwhahahahaha why Should England always hark on about there Home victorys, LMFAO they hahve had fuckall in the way of any victorys away from home since 2003, Please dont tell me this world cup win in 2003 will be talked about like the Football, BECAUSE **** THATS GOTTEN OLD. England Soccer world champs according to 905 of the British population.
2 Jun 2006, 17:35 pm
dont mention the soccer world cup…
2 Jun 2006, 17:35 pm
test attitude, whatever, this thread stinks…
2 Jun 2006, 17:36 pm
**** wls, i said dont mention the soccer, he has probably gone and jumped in the thames now!
2 Jun 2006, 17:38 pm
Well then he’s got an average of 10 mins to live
2 Jun 2006, 17:38 pm
apparantly soccer and rugby are 2 different games..
2 Jun 2006, 17:41 pm
yes PA/wls, unfortunately StM’s passion appears to be the roundball game, this is why such opinion can never be taken seriously.
big g, totally different, the one’s a proper sport.
2 Jun 2006, 17:41 pm
tell that to beckham big, he kicks better than johnny w and his kicks go much higher over the cross-bar.
and he does not even use a tee
2 Jun 2006, 17:42 pm
in hungary, masturbation is a sport… sorry for the straight ladies, but quick coming is actually a winner there.. he he
2 Jun 2006, 17:43 pm
is beckham that silly little fella with the squeaky voice and the plastic wife? at least they have taste naming their kids after shakesperian characters.
2 Jun 2006, 17:44 pm
no no, that is jaco he he…
2 Jun 2006, 17:44 pm
lol
2 Jun 2006, 17:47 pm
yeah it is a good thing their child was not conceived in the bathroom of the local KFC
2 Jun 2006, 17:47 pm
Pissant LMFAO God help the World if the Limesy win this world cup, Thankfully they wont because they dont have ROONEY LMFAO.. any nation that pins there hopes on a 19 year old Scouser desearve to live on a mudpit.
2 Jun 2006, 17:47 pm
col. sanders has a nice ring to it though…
2 Jun 2006, 17:49 pm
yes the ashed was bad enough thank you.
they are now the best cricketing nation in the world too.
2 Jun 2006, 17:49 pm
Knowing the bekhams it would more than lickly be Mcdonals, Ronald Mc Donald Beckham LMFAO BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2 Jun 2006, 17:50 pm
**ashes
2 Jun 2006, 17:51 pm
PA, dont tempt fate, still the missus is unlikely to be in the KFC, a drumstick is likely to double her weight overnight. on the plus side, protein’s meant to be good brainfood.
2 Jun 2006, 17:52 pm
i reckon she loves KFC pops cab…
2 Jun 2006, 17:52 pm
Does Ollie still appear on Spur ads in SA?
2 Jun 2006, 17:54 pm
britney spears = pringles
2 Jun 2006, 17:54 pm
Oh man the ASHES, funnily enough won by a South Africa HA HA.
2 Jun 2006, 17:55 pm
lol, dont know who’s worse, that end of the spectrum or those spectacularly useless floppy toffs at the other end.
yesterday saw a picture in the paper of Prince Willy sharing a joke with Rooney, good god could not even begin to imagine what common wit they share?
2 Jun 2006, 17:56 pm
I bumped into Posh at Bluewater shopping mall, shes flipping small. Had 2 bodyguards, about 6 store guards and some guide bloke.
when they sat in the resturant near us they took up an entire corner.
Felt sorry for her lol.
2 Jun 2006, 17:57 pm
a scouser with lovely white legs that has a penchant for grannies and a floppy toff with a thinning bald spot and all the charisma of a bowling ball.
2 Jun 2006, 17:59 pm
LMFAO
Have you ever heard these morons talk? No wonder the Americans like to say they invented English, ha ha.
And there Teeth, Fookin hell mate, almost as bad as there penchant for not Bathing during the week.
2 Jun 2006, 17:59 pm
i suppose it was a knock-knock joke cab.
2 Jun 2006, 18:01 pm
PA, you cant help but hose yourself. nonstop comedy.
2 Jun 2006, 18:09 pm
Sat next to Posh in Blues once. Face liek a pizza. A real shame. No suprise Beckham looks elsewhere.
You misunderstand my comments on Larkham. A fine player. But jsut because he succesfully made the transition SA (as usual taking their idiot medicine from the Aussies) think playing elsewhere in the back line is now a precursor to becoming a 10. Let me Brent Russell and JDV have also been mentioned. Get over it.
2 Jun 2006, 18:16 pm
Imagine if England won the football WC?
We’d be champions at Rugby, football and at the same time hold the Ashes.
These really are vintage years to be an Englishman. Can I dare dream?
I remember being in SA just after the boks won the Amateur World Cup, won some African football tournament and lost in the semi’s of the cricket one day world cup. By Jupier the nation celebrated then.
2 Jun 2006, 18:19 pm
pommie hattrick? whats the world coming to.
2 Jun 2006, 18:21 pm
By the way Cab you understate my achievements.
I have played sport at the VERY highest level. An important distinction my dear chap and one I will demonstrate at our rendezvous in the West Car Park this Autumn. Now dont come wearing one of those Bok starter jackets.
2 Jun 2006, 18:27 pm
St Michel
Is that dogging in West Car Park at the highest level.
2 Jun 2006, 18:28 pm
StM, i am a superb sportsmen myself, i would even venture that i could circumnavigate your *** with a roundball in the car park before firing off a beckham like volley into the windshield of your land rover.
2 Jun 2006, 18:30 pm
‘Supp BokinOzzie
2 Jun 2006, 18:31 pm
Tel him cab.
An Englishman is always a great sportsman until they compete internationally, then they are great whiners.
2 Jun 2006, 18:32 pm
St M, you sound like a real wanker.
2 Jun 2006, 18:34 pm
The english are only good as ttheir stories then nothing else.
2 Jun 2006, 18:35 pm
Only in the bathroom skim
2 Jun 2006, 18:36 pm
Hmmmm youre gonna miss 500 if you hang around here.
2 Jun 2006, 18:36 pm
no no boys, you misunderstand the English, they are a very strange bunch, but can be quite hospitable, which is their folly.
StM has generously invited us all round to his place for tea and tiffin after the game. I also don’t know what tiffin is, but it will be a good opportunity to pocket some wedgewood china.
2 Jun 2006, 18:38 pm
good night ladies, good weekend, have some pints.
2 Jun 2006, 18:40 pm
Before the game old chap. The invitation afterwards depends on your behviour, general appearance and ability to front up after another resounding thumping at HQ. And dont worry the English are famous throughout the world for their magnaminity in victory.
2 Jun 2006, 21:00 pm
StMichel was on the beach in SA,he was the pink faced ,t-shirt tanned lad wearing the Birmingham football top,plastic blow up shark under the arm,sandles with socks and tatoo of queen on his arm.With all those plastic bangles so that he could look “ethnic”
2 Jun 2006, 22:55 pm
Re 113: the same as it mattered for England to build “Fortress Twiks”. It builds confidence in the team, confidence that will eventually spill over overseas.
England did it long enough to win the World Cup, even though, in 6 years prior to it, they had only played 4 matches in the southern hemisphere.
2 Jun 2006, 22:58 pm
Famous in victory is right, for their arrogance and inbreeding.
2 Jun 2006, 23:02 pm
St Mich, the only time a Pommie has the pleasure of my company is when he/she demonstrates that their behavioural standard is higher than the English average (i.e. somehow approaches the bottom rung of South African of good clothes taste and manners). To date, you don’t qualify as your behaviour here is little better than the druggies I see walking through Cambridge city centre. Go back to Eton (which does not rival the top SA schools) and bend over for the headmaster…that’s a boy, be a good chap now, take it like a man…
2 Jun 2006, 23:39 pm
Are there actually people who care about this game ? It’s just a money spinner.
2 Jun 2006, 23:52 pm
sit back and enjoy some different rugby, BlueBlood. It’s away from the boring Tri Nations routine that will soon be upon us again.
3 Jun 2006, 06:51 am
Jeez bluebloood
Perhaps this game will give us a showpiece of attacking rugby we so crave. Its more likely we’ll go into conservative mode in the official tests than this one sso as Mikeybrass says,enjoy it. I look fwd to all games ,its been a long time since the last Bok game and that wasnt a great one. But last seaosn was pretty goo. The boks have done nothing wrong yet,we have everything to be positive about…..ffsakes we havnt even pleyed yet and some guy wrote he wants to get rid of his bokjersey.
As the doos minister of safety says….’get out the country then.’And leave your jersey for me. Boks thru thick and thin !!!!!!!!!!
3 Jun 2006, 07:40 am
Jake White has hoodwinked all and sundry!!!
In the build up to todays “Test” against the World XV Jake White has boxed clever.In removing his senior players through “injuries” he has allowed a second string Bok team to play through necessity and not choice.This perception has been created to dupe the sponsors who would naturally insist on a full-strength Bok team, the fans who believe their heroes need recovery and the players who play today who need not feel any pressure.
This was always going to be a tricky fixture,a must win “unofficial” test where the opposition are high calibre players,but have nothing to lose and everything to gain.With a tough season ahead of the Boks Jake really didn’t need his top players involved in this encounter.He has afterall the two Scotland Tests for his first XV to find their feet and warm up.
Yes Jake has created some hype in the media for a game that could easily have lost it’s lustre and spared his stars.It has given him the opportunity to test his depth in a relatively
pressure free environment and some players will today give indication of their ability at a higher level.
All said and done Jake has pulled the wool over most eyes and well done to him.This is a season where the Bokke must decide if they are men or mice and in Jake White we have the perfect mind to plot the road to the top.
3 Jun 2006, 11:53 am
Well spotted Rasta
Jake is a clever guy
Go Bokke!
5 Jun 2006, 02:16 am
I heard from Tana that St Micky’s great acheivement was winning the WC Tiddlywinks, Mr Umaga, who was set to oppose him in the final, defaulted, making some excuse about having forgotten his handbag.
The real reason he confessed later, was that the opening 2 minutes of listening to St.Mickeys mindless drivel was all he could handle, and he would rather forfeit the Prestige of being World champ than listen to it for a second longer!
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