We were robbed!
17 Jun 2006
Scotland coach Frank Hadden has blamed poor officiating for costing his team an historic first win over the Springboks in South Africa.
The key mistake, Hadden told the post-match press conference, was the TMO decision not to award Simon Webster’s try minutes before the break. “As far as I’m concerned Simon did get an awkward bounce and did fumble the ball before the try, but he did not knock the ball on,” Hadden complained.
“It doesn’t matter how many times you look at it, the ball does not go forward from his hands. I think we can feel fairly agrieved at that as I have no doubt that was the critical turning point of the match.”
The incident occured a minute before the break, with the Scots trailing 12-5. A try then and with the possible conversion – it was scored near the uprights – would have levelled matters at half-time.
Several other areas bothered Hadden, but in particular at the lineout, where the Scots competed superbly he felt the officials had let his team down. “There were lots of little areas. We were very upset at how the Springboks were allowed to close the gap at lineout time. I know the South Africans have an impressive lineout, but if they are allowed to just come crashing across the gap you then really have very little opportunity to win the ball.”
“The high tackle on Jason (White) as well. When the guys gets smashed around the head and non of the officials appear to see it you have to worry about what’s actually happening,” continued Hadden.
Hadden felt his team had done enough to secure an historic first ever win over the Boks on South African soil. “It was a very special performance especailly after last weekend. I think we did enough to earn victory.”
Springbok coach Jake White felt differently when asked the same question. “Well, if you look at the score it was 29-15 so, no, I don’t think they did enough to win it.”
By Andrew Hollely, at the EPRU Stadium
41 Comments
17 Jun 2006, 18:21 pm
and it starts…….
17 Jun 2006, 18:21 pm
Bloody hell, to be claiming a robbing at 29 -15 is a bit rich!
17 Jun 2006, 18:22 pm
whine whine whine whine whine……
17 Jun 2006, 18:22 pm
Agree, we were pretty average!!!
17 Jun 2006, 18:24 pm
Stront!
17 Jun 2006, 18:30 pm
In Florida, it is illegal to tie an alligator to a fire-hydrant for more than 15 minutes.
17 Jun 2006, 18:30 pm
He fails to remember that Scotland’s second try coming off Jaco’s mistake, was a blatant off-side. So, no, they shouldn’t have won and were not robbed. In any case, we are going to have to pick our game up in a big way against France.
17 Jun 2006, 18:31 pm
Anybody know what the score between Baby Boks and Le petit Cockerels is?? Should be almost half-time.
17 Jun 2006, 18:32 pm
Stop whining dude. Webster’s “try” was disallowed because he knocked the ball. Perhaps its a question of you not wanting to see the knock?
If you must *****, ***** about Patterson’s intercept.
And, while you’re slamming the officials, be sure to mention the overlooked offsiede the preceded your second try.
Are you friends with Eddie Jones?
17 Jun 2006, 18:39 pm
and he forgot to mention his team was offsides when they scored of jaco’s f&ck up
17 Jun 2006, 18:49 pm
Some people don’t think before they make stupid comments to the press. what an ***, now he looks like an idiot to evryone. sorry mate, this is rugby, bad decision or not, deal with it. you lost, no, you got wollaped and now you say you were cheated. grow some balls buddy.
17 Jun 2006, 19:00 pm
rastafox: 11-10 to bokkies at half time
17 Jun 2006, 19:03 pm
Ta Just
Just found irbu21 website you watching???
17 Jun 2006, 19:20 pm
score SA 14 Fr 10 , SA down to 14 men , sin binned
17 Jun 2006, 19:46 pm
sa win 14 -10 what a brave game played last 25 min defending with 20 of that with 14 men
17 Jun 2006, 19:50 pm
Brilliant stuff from the U/21. I haven’t got any nails left
17 Jun 2006, 19:52 pm
u21 game quite tight
17 Jun 2006, 20:49 pm
Having watched the game on tv, I hope it was a real wake up call for JW, or he is going to get nailed very severely soon…this was pathetic, worse than the disgrace against the world cup guys…major changes are needed…
17 Jun 2006, 21:42 pm
skim
17 Jun 2006, 23:30 pm
Mixed feeling about the game but…
Scotland seemed to arrive at the game with the intention of spoiling for the first 20 or so minutes and the bokke fel for it. Keep in mind folks that this scotish side did very well last year and is not to be taken lightly.
Bokke – you went to sleep afer last week and have some work to do but i have faith that it can be polished as the ground work has ben done. Concentration must be kept fop the full 80.
For all thoughs poking at JW – give it a break, he takes it one game at a time and has done fatastic for us since taking over from the idiot and can only get better. Give him support rather than beer spilling armchair tacktics.
18 Jun 2006, 00:18 am
Welcome to the big league Frankie,here bitching and moaning helps ****,ask Eddie Moans,get your team into gear and make sure you win and when others wine tell them to look at the scoreboard.
18 Jun 2006, 02:36 am
That’s the dumbest statement I’ve heard in years. That supposed try was an obvious knock on so whats he whining about. The bottom line is that the Scots were **** and the Boks less ****.
18 Jun 2006, 05:10 am
i love jakes comment, cough look at the scoreboard cough
18 Jun 2006, 05:59 am
Bloody whinging Scots go home.
18 Jun 2006, 09:57 am
Lost major respect for the Scotts after this test series, they have moaned and ocmplained about everything. They played better yesterday, the Boks played KAK, yet we still whooped them.
18 Jun 2006, 10:04 am
It’s so unlike the Jocks to whinge, whine and make excuses.
They are usually exemplary in taking their medicine.
18 Jun 2006, 10:10 am
In my view that first Paterson try was legit. All the camera angle reviews either confused or hypnotised the TMO,
The second half try that was awarded shouldn’t have been – so it just evens out really.
The Scot’s gameplan in the 2nd test was more effective, but it relied heavily on spoiling.
18 Jun 2006, 10:11 am
All in all, the Scots are better than we’re giving them credit for – though they badly missed Ally Hogg.
18 Jun 2006, 12:33 pm
Citizenc, Hogg played in both tests – Simon Taylor was badly missed though.
I was about to say that Scotland got some respect back after the Durban thrashing but now I read Hadden’s comments and have to hang my head in shame! Webster did knock the ball on in the act of scoring, no argument. Paterson’s intercept however should have stood in my opinion, a most bizarre passage of play that which ended with a 14 point swing on the basis of that decision. McFadyen was a country mile offside when he scored though, perhaps the officials felt some kind of obligation after the previous ****-up..?
Some of the comments beggar belief though! Last week heroes this week zeroes – grow up, it takes 2 teams to make a game. What happened this week was a) Scotland were more up for it, b) the Boks were not at full tilt and c) they are saving themselves for the French next week.
18 Jun 2006, 12:42 pm
The ref made the difference. The Paterson try should have been given. Spreadbury was as bad as Kaplan. The rugby refs sure gives the soccer guys a run for their money.
18 Jun 2006, 12:58 pm
Don’t be bloody stupid Hadden….you’ll need to play a lot better than that to beat even a ****** Bok side for the first time in SA in almost century.
18 Jun 2006, 13:00 pm
The try was no try…..the issue was not concerning the ball in the air but the second before that, Patterson lost in slightly forward in the tackle before regathering and doing the juggling in the air bit.
18 Jun 2006, 13:05 pm
Ooops! Mixed Hogg and Taylor up. Thanks jonny.
18 Jun 2006, 14:01 pm
StPete not quite sure which incident you mean? The ref called the play back for a knock on by Webster when he went back to field a long kick – could have went either way really, and he should have blown up earlier because it was clear that a scrum 5m out for the Boks is advantage enough, why let play go on for some 30 seconds – I bet it was another Dickinson call!
Citizen, an easy mistake to make. Scotland have a back row to proud of in White, Hogg and Taylor. Where we lack international class is in the front row and centres. Henderson and di Rollo are not good enough to play test rugby and as for the front row…….. I don’t need to say anything as Os said it all yesterday!
The French on the udder hand will not be so easily dominated at scrum time.
18 Jun 2006, 15:11 pm
The ref didn’t know that….he he knew was that the try was dissallowed.
But I agree…a very long “advntage” played.
19 Jun 2006, 01:47 am
Bloody pathetic. Whinging coach. Looks like the new Eddie Jones.
Excuses are bad. Blaming the ref in a match where you were outscored 2-1 is pathetic. Like my grandpa always says, “As is verbrande hout.”
19 Jun 2006, 09:17 am
theres something radically wrong in the game of rugby that a sporting contest has to be decided on penalties which have no effect on the game
you can blow for just about everything but what interference did it have on the opposition
the first 2 penalties to the springboks were purely technical nature of no benefit to the scottish and yet the springboks had 6 points on the board
if i park my car for 5 minutes in a busy no stopping are at midnite surely i am not going to be towed away unlike during the rush hour when there is a reason for the no stopping sign
the refs dont blow like this because most of them are scared they will be criticised for not blowing to the etter of the law
what a load of trash buy yet a massive contributor to the game which is so boring and unfair at present
19 Jun 2006, 10:09 am
Interesting stance on the law there, Norman. Have you watched ANY rugby over the past five years?
Take your sour grapes to France. We have excellent wine here in South Africa.
19 Jun 2006, 10:39 am
ag stop talking ****
19 Jun 2006, 11:09 am
not only have i watched rugby over the last 5 years but i also refereed for over 30 years and coached a top university side in south africa that produced many springboks
it was not the maties but there contribution to our rugby was enormous and they were always a pleasure to watch as was the ikeys
cab ,youre entitled to your opinion for what its worth
19 Jun 2006, 11:25 am
norman, my comments were directed at Hadden, there is no need for such sore losers, especially coaches.
he feels aggrieved by a decision, so what?
the long and the short of it is that Hadden feels cheated and that the officials were against scotland (even tho none of them are thankfully SA so the old perceived bias no longer holds). He is merely frustrated that his side despite being talked up where clearly destroyed by the boks in every department.
have nothing against the scots, but no time for the yobbo poor loser mentality that seems to be indicative of modern day NH coaches and Eddie Jones. Its still a gentleman’s game. Hadden can learn from JW in this respect.
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