Snyman’s stint may be over
18 Jun 2006
Andre Snyman’s injury bogey seems set to continue. The utility back may have broken his wrist in the 29-15 win over Scotland.
Snyman’s international career was interrupted by dual ankle breaks several years ago, but he managed to fight back and earned a re-call to White’s Bok squad this year.
He started on the wing in the first Test last weekend, but injuries to the the Bok midfield pair of Jean de Villiers and Jaque Fourie meant Snyman was handed the No 13 jersey and partnered Wynand Olivier in a new-look centre combination on Saturday.
His effort before being replaced was hardly inspiring. His coach tried to defend him afterwards: “Andre is trying as hard as he can. It is unfair to criticise as he is new to our setup. It really is difficult for him.”
Snyman was taken to hospital last night for scans and will get the results today. Even if they do not reveal a break it is unlikely the big man will be considered for the Test against France.
It might create an opportunity for White to start Bryan Habana at outside centre, although Fourie could be back. “I’m hoping to have Jaque back next week and I will have a chat with de Wet to see whether he is available. Habana is good at either 11 or 13,” said White.
Os du Randt was also removed, but White said it was merely a precautionary measure and he should be fine to take on the French.
By Andrew Hollely, in Port Elizabeth
33 Comments
18 Jun 2006, 10:07 am
Skim eats chicken and smokes….
18 Jun 2006, 10:08 am
That should read “skim smokes chichen”.
18 Jun 2006, 10:15 am
habana at 13 will be great to watch, finally put out his credentials, he was wasted on the wing against the scots
18 Jun 2006, 10:21 am
Habana vs Jauzion at 13 Froggies to break the line at will.
18 Jun 2006, 10:21 am
That should read Skim praat kak.
This is not entirely bad news. Snyman is not good enough anymore. Same as Pruik Paulse.
18 Jun 2006, 10:31 am
Habana is not an centre, does’nt have a step, hardly ever passes, and does’nt know about holding the defensive line-how many times have you seen him step up to try and intercept and create a dog leg?
18 Jun 2006, 10:32 am
Good riddance.
Hopefully this will retire him from international rugby for good, but his hands are so poor he can probably play with a broken wrist and no one will notice.
18 Jun 2006, 10:47 am
i hate to see a player get injured but what the hell was this pretender even doing in the squad.
he offered nothing and his bulk does not seem to break through the defense. Watch Chris Latham do it and you will get the picture…
cheers Snyman, go pump some roids.
18 Jun 2006, 10:58 am
Hey, I do not smoke.
18 Jun 2006, 11:03 am
“Even if they do not reveal a break it is unlikely the big man will be considered for the Test against Scotland.”
Jeez Andy, how many beers did you have last night?
18 Jun 2006, 11:08 am
but i do eat the chicken!
18 Jun 2006, 11:24 am
How on earth can anyone guage the performances of the centers yesterday when Matfield,Burger and Jon Smit where in the way all the time?
As for me….in what was a very ****** game, the best performers for the Boks where Juan Smith, Andre Snyman and Du Preez.
18 Jun 2006, 11:30 am
Danie also had another decent performance……….but 6.5/10 scores for those above mentioned names.
18 Jun 2006, 11:32 am
Stop being so critical of Snyman he showed some good things yesterday and is a solid player. Perhaps you armchair critics should try playing rugby sometime and I don’t mean schools or club. Very easy to criticise but your criticisms do show a basic lack of rugby knowledge endemic in South Africa amongst the majority of fans, administrators, coaches and press. It’s about time you imbeciles realised what a gem you have in Jake White. If Snyman is good enough in Jakes eyes he should be more than good enough for you ******* morons. There is nothing worse than having to listen/ read to uninformed, unintelligent and unworthy comment from a bunch of useless arseholes such as yourselves. As for your comments Ratel, enough said you are a prick who probably never played rugby to any level worth mentioning. I know this because no rugby player worth his salt makes comments of that nature about a fellow player who has just been injured.
18 Jun 2006, 11:43 am
I thought Snyman was OK. He did what he was brought in for.
Next week I’d like to see Wynand at 12 and Fourie at 13.
On Skysports the commentators said that De Villiers & Fourie were thought of as the best in the world.
18 Jun 2006, 12:09 pm
Snyman is an experienced campaigner and quality player.He is new to the Bok setup under Jake and has been targeted for his experience.There has always been a question surrounding his handling as this has let him down before.So far he has had little opportunity to do right or wrong and made his first start at outside centre in quite some time.
It seemed yesterday the forwards had decided before the game that losing Jean and Jacques was too much to bear and they would deputise in the midfield.There is no room for a tight forward who is meddling in the midfield and not doing the hard hards up front.In this regard Danie Roussow has had two very decent performances,but is still playing the tight-loose as a blindside flank and with Victor having elected this as his preferred role in the team,we were again found short staffed at the breakdown.
Our numbers in midfield fail to create an advantage as it is without fail a lumbering forward that crashes up a few metres and provides slow ball due to a lack of support.This is a weak area of the game that has been seen three weeks running.We simply have to commit our forwards to the rucks and mauls and leave the running to the backs.One or two ball carriers from the pack is more than enough and the reason for picking a big back like Snyman is to have that extra power in support.
Our present combination sees Schalk playing a lone role at the breakdown,the locks and flanks looking for ball in the backs and nobody running the ball carriers shoulder for the pass or cleanout and securing of possesion at the tackle.
This will be costly against anyside that is better equipped than the hapless Scots.
The personell are there it is just a question of defining roles on the park.I do believe our pack is good enough at set-piece time and we have locks able to dominate the lineouts in Botha and Matfield.I would again say that Bakkies is the missing ingredient,despite Roussow showing good form.There must be an enforcer who hits the rucks and mauls defensively well not just on attack.
The selection of Juan Smith and Joe van Niekerk is a risky one as too often these two players compete against each other rather than combining and complementing each other.Again this is a fixable problem.Juan needs to provide more support for Schalk and get his hands dirty at the breakdowns.Joe can then play the ball carrier role.The beauty of the Kiwi back three is the combinations they run.The recipe is simple a fetcher playing to the ball,a powerful blindsider cleaning up and supporting and a number 8 that is good at covering for the other two.The versatility of the number 8 is key and he needs to be an intelligent player.
18 Jun 2006, 12:45 pm
Creep back into your hole DEE DAH you ******. This is a public forum and everyone has a right to their opinion.
By the way, if you judge rugby knowledge by someones level of participation, then Jake White knows nothing according to your criteria.
18 Jun 2006, 12:46 pm
Give Habana a few runs at No 13 with JF on his outside. Would be tactically useful if these two could swop positions at times.
18 Jun 2006, 12:53 pm
Plenty options at 13.
Who covers fullback?
18 Jun 2006, 12:53 pm
When’s Russel going to get a go again?
18 Jun 2006, 12:54 pm
Jaco is more a fullback than he’ll ever be a flyhalf. Anyone know what is Butch’s injury status?
18 Jun 2006, 13:08 pm
Bluecap – oops.
Don’t drink beer, but had kak loads of shooters
18 Jun 2006, 13:55 pm
Well we could always use another backs coach. he’s got the experience and should be of age
18 Jun 2006, 13:56 pm
Ratel
Read my post I praised JW and his abilities, abilities gained through participation in rugby at all levels over a prolonged period of time. Your qualifications seem to be ownership of a computer with internet access and a supersport subscription. As for holes, try pulling your head out of yours you rugby ignoramus.
Yes this is a public forum but that certainly doesn’t make stupidity and ill informed comment exempt from criticism.
18 Jun 2006, 14:39 pm
DEE DAH
You equated playing rugby to knowing rugby.
Jake White did not play rugby at all levels and my qualifications is of no importance. Snyman is a player with poor hands and there’s nothing your comments can do to change it. You don’t have to be a plumber to know what **** looks like.
Go **** yourself.
18 Jun 2006, 15:25 pm
Good riddance to rubbish. Finally my dreams are coming true. Bobby Skinstad or Schalk Brits are better centres/wings than Snyman.
Now we just have to replace Paulse…
18 Jun 2006, 16:31 pm
Paulse is a legend!
18 Jun 2006, 16:32 pm
viper and ratel you 2 make a cute couple !!!!
couple of clowns
as for some of the guys that give constructive critism
butch will be playing for sharks on friday
russel still out injured
so to henno mentz
fact is the centers didnt mess up for us on saterday it was juan smith and schalk that kept knocking ball after ball and also slowing down backline moves
also once again its proven jaco is not a flyhalf
his option taking lets him down badly
now to the under 21″S
what a great defensive performance where a referee allowed the french to play offside as they wish
use professional fouls all the time and just blow the hell outa the boks
for example the baby boks musta spent 30 of the 35 min second half in their 22
and yet they tackled the hell outa the french
the defensive work of barrit for example was just pure brilliance ….
even the 9 min extra time the ref played was outragous
he tried his damn best to help the french along with the 2 ****** linesman
the laast time i saw defence of this nature we won the world cup in 95
awesome guys awesome
18 Jun 2006, 16:37 pm
rastafox i agree 100 % with ur comments mate as im sure you saw i too feel the loosies cause a lot of problems trying to be centers
18 Jun 2006, 16:39 pm
and so too dee dah i agree with you
and have said this in here many times before
theres one thing making comments and asnother just being plain stupid and mean when the people making the comments prolly didnt even make the 6th team at their school
well if they went to school
18 Jun 2006, 16:47 pm
Snyman is trying too hard.His role is at RW.If he can join the line at speed from ball won from set piece play from right side field position he is unstoppable.His defensive abilitiies are also of the highest standard. I wish him a speedy recovery.
Regarding the loose trio and taking into account current form as displayed in Super 14 why not AJ at no8 and Wannenberg at no7? AJ in my opinion showed to be very effectve in supporting Brits in winning the ball and cleaning out for Sharks, while Wannenberg has carried the ball up well all season, although it can be said his distribution needs to improve.Schalk remains at no.6 but needs to stay on his feet more. Smith playing below form. Van Niekerk to play off bench as game breaker. When will someone play Brent Russel at scrumhalf? If only for his unquestioned ability to make quick decisions that change defence into attack, what a player, what a waste!
18 Jun 2006, 17:38 pm
Pedrie played good rugby this year , he can break trough like Danie did Saturday , how about having both plus Bakkies and Schalk together with a great fetcher amongst them and FDP
18 Jun 2006, 22:13 pm
Jipee hi yaye!!!
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