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		<title>By: pompies</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-127740</link>
		<dc:creator>pompies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They don&#039;t even use their back line any way. He he he.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t even use their back line any way. He he he.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-127105</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tacitus, i wouldn&#039;t call it blackmail, but both are asking their repsective unions to cede certin things to them or else.

hard to see how you class white&#039;s motives as more sinister than meyer, white might want a longer contract extension, but it could be argued at least he&#039;s not asking for the political power that meyer is (which has a greater impact on everyone else).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacitus, i wouldn&#8217;t call it blackmail, but both are asking their repsective unions to cede certin things to them or else.</p>
<p>hard to see how you class white&#8217;s motives as more sinister than meyer, white might want a longer contract extension, but it could be argued at least he&#8217;s not asking for the political power that meyer is (which has a greater impact on everyone else).</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-127025</link>
		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cab and BMM

There is in fact a huge difference between Heyneke and Jakeâ€™s actions.

Heyneke is not blackmailing his employer with suggestions of a more lucrative offer elsewhere. Jake is.

Heyneke is not asking for better job security or an extension to his contract. Jake is.

Heyneke is requesting greater power over the coaching structures at the Bulls. Contrary to your statements, Jake is not requesting less political interference from parliament, because frankly, that subject is taboo.

Bottomline. Jake is negotiating a better deal for himself â€“ a longer contract, removal of the performance clause, and a bigger salary (thatâ€™s what the whole â€œR 20 million England offerâ€ hints were aimed at.)

Heyneke is not concerned about his own nest egg, but rather about the best way to achieve success at the Bulls.

And Heyneke definitely has not flown to job interviews anywhere else in the country â€“ or in the world for that matter â€“ ala Jake White.

Frankly, there is no comparison between the two situations whatsoever. And no comparison between the integrity of the two men either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cab and BMM</p>
<p>There is in fact a huge difference between Heyneke and Jakeâ€™s actions.</p>
<p>Heyneke is not blackmailing his employer with suggestions of a more lucrative offer elsewhere. Jake is.</p>
<p>Heyneke is not asking for better job security or an extension to his contract. Jake is.</p>
<p>Heyneke is requesting greater power over the coaching structures at the Bulls. Contrary to your statements, Jake is not requesting less political interference from parliament, because frankly, that subject is taboo.</p>
<p>Bottomline. Jake is negotiating a better deal for himself â€“ a longer contract, removal of the performance clause, and a bigger salary (thatâ€™s what the whole â€œR 20 million England offerâ€ hints were aimed at.)</p>
<p>Heyneke is not concerned about his own nest egg, but rather about the best way to achieve success at the Bulls.</p>
<p>And Heyneke definitely has not flown to job interviews anywhere else in the country â€“ or in the world for that matter â€“ ala Jake White.</p>
<p>Frankly, there is no comparison between the two situations whatsoever. And no comparison between the integrity of the two men either.</p>
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		<title>By: wpw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126996</link>
		<dc:creator>wpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[watching the bulls vs Lions game was like watching paint dry... Most SA games are like that. 
Suprisingly the WP vs Sharks game was quite entertaining.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watching the bulls vs Lions game was like watching paint dry&#8230; Most SA games are like that.<br />
Suprisingly the WP vs Sharks game was quite entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: BMM</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126991</link>
		<dc:creator>BMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tacitus
You really contradicting yourself. What Jake did and HM did was exactly the same. They both arguing that they want more control and if they don&#039;t get it then they might as well leave. Jake requesting an extension and/or an interview with the Poms or HM threatening with resignation - whats the difference??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacitus<br />
You really contradicting yourself. What Jake did and HM did was exactly the same. They both arguing that they want more control and if they don&#8217;t get it then they might as well leave. Jake requesting an extension and/or an interview with the Poms or HM threatening with resignation &#8211; whats the difference??</p>
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		<title>By: suparugby</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126983</link>
		<dc:creator>suparugby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nee wat, ons sal die WP wen. Wp het orraait gespeel maar in my opinie was dit die Haaie se swakste game van die jaar (sluit s14 in). Die Wp het hier en daar goeie spelers soos Aplon en Diack (agsteman) en Luke was goed. Maar as n span dink ek ons is net te sterk vir hulle. Ons kan net die game verloor, ek dink hulle kan hom wen nie. Hulle forwards gaan weer swaar kry en op die agtervoet beteken hulle agterlyn nie veel nie. Ons het hulle nommer en hulle verloor die game nog voor hulle loftus toe kom in hul kop! Hulle gaan positief speel en kompeterend wees totdat ons met 8+ voor is of twee dskielike driee druk,dan gaan hulle vou. Onthou s14. Hulle ding mee totdat ons vinnoig score dan dink hulle â€œo hel, hier kom weer n loesingâ€ en dan begin hulle in n verdedigende mode oorgaan en dan is dit verbyâ€¦

Miskien bewys hulle my verkeerd, maar ek sal verras wees. Die WP bring altyd die beste uit die Bulle. Bulle met 15+]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nee wat, ons sal die WP wen. Wp het orraait gespeel maar in my opinie was dit die Haaie se swakste game van die jaar (sluit s14 in). Die Wp het hier en daar goeie spelers soos Aplon en Diack (agsteman) en Luke was goed. Maar as n span dink ek ons is net te sterk vir hulle. Ons kan net die game verloor, ek dink hulle kan hom wen nie. Hulle forwards gaan weer swaar kry en op die agtervoet beteken hulle agterlyn nie veel nie. Ons het hulle nommer en hulle verloor die game nog voor hulle loftus toe kom in hul kop! Hulle gaan positief speel en kompeterend wees totdat ons met 8+ voor is of twee dskielike driee druk,dan gaan hulle vou. Onthou s14. Hulle ding mee totdat ons vinnoig score dan dink hulle â€œo hel, hier kom weer n loesingâ€ en dan begin hulle in n verdedigende mode oorgaan en dan is dit verbyâ€¦</p>
<p>Miskien bewys hulle my verkeerd, maar ek sal verras wees. Die WP bring altyd die beste uit die Bulle. Bulle met 15+</p>
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		<title>By: Staal</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126949</link>
		<dc:creator>Staal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stan,

Wp het glo goed gespeel teen die Haaie en ek dink hulle kom met geweld Loftus toe.  Die Bulle kannie vir altyd die Wp wen nie en onthou die Bulle het ook nou &#039;n nuwe afrigter - dit gaan taai wees.

Dit gaan die Bulle &#039;n jaar of wat vat om weer bo uit te kom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>Wp het glo goed gespeel teen die Haaie en ek dink hulle kom met geweld Loftus toe.  Die Bulle kannie vir altyd die Wp wen nie en onthou die Bulle het ook nou &#8216;n nuwe afrigter &#8211; dit gaan taai wees.</p>
<p>Dit gaan die Bulle &#8216;n jaar of wat vat om weer bo uit te kom.</p>
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		<title>By: MysticBoer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126939</link>
		<dc:creator>MysticBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bluecap - when Gert Small went to France to &quot;steek &#039;n paar kerse op&quot; everybody north of the Juksei was all over him. Now that HM wants to do it, it is suddenly applauded]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluecap &#8211; when Gert Small went to France to &#8220;steek &#8216;n paar kerse op&#8221; everybody north of the Juksei was all over him. Now that HM wants to do it, it is suddenly applauded</p>
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		<title>By: ciccino</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126938</link>
		<dc:creator>ciccino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bulls have great backs, what they lack is good inside center. Friekkie is not an answear at this posision. I would like to see Potgeiter at 12, he looks strong, have played flyhalf so can pass and kick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bulls have great backs, what they lack is good inside center. Friekkie is not an answear at this posision. I would like to see Potgeiter at 12, he looks strong, have played flyhalf so can pass and kick.</p>
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		<title>By: MysticBoer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126936</link>
		<dc:creator>MysticBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tacticus - if it was all about money for Jake he would have left long time ago. He can easily do better (financially) in the NH than he is doing at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacticus &#8211; if it was all about money for Jake he would have left long time ago. He can easily do better (financially) in the NH than he is doing at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126927</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh rubbish tacitus, its exactly the same thing, meyer wants more control over his squad away from the meddling of external influences.

it just happens to have come a week after the white debacle, very funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh rubbish tacitus, its exactly the same thing, meyer wants more control over his squad away from the meddling of external influences.</p>
<p>it just happens to have come a week after the white debacle, very funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicamousa</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126925</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicamousa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to hear the full story too Tacitus (#11), but you are a bit one sided in your summing up of Jake and Heyneke.

Jake also wants more power and authority to select players, to rest players, and to give opportunities with their province. Just like Heyneke.

Handing in a letter of resignation is a pretty big gun to the head as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to hear the full story too Tacitus (#11), but you are a bit one sided in your summing up of Jake and Heyneke.</p>
<p>Jake also wants more power and authority to select players, to rest players, and to give opportunities with their province. Just like Heyneke.</p>
<p>Handing in a letter of resignation is a pretty big gun to the head as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126920</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Die Rugridders gaan weer bloei Saterdag.
Gelukkig is hulle al redelik gewoond daaraan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Rugridders gaan weer bloei Saterdag.<br />
Gelukkig is hulle al redelik gewoond daaraan.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluecap</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126918</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluecap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tacitus, The other thing about The Meyer is that he&#039;ll admit to his shortcomings and look to improve.
As he says, he wishes to &quot;steek &#039;n paar kerse op&quot; with other coaches overseas and learn how to improve his coaching, this, I believe is what makes a good coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacitus, The other thing about The Meyer is that he&#8217;ll admit to his shortcomings and look to improve.<br />
As he says, he wishes to &#8220;steek &#8216;n paar kerse op&#8221; with other coaches overseas and learn how to improve his coaching, this, I believe is what makes a good coach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126905</link>
		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keo

How about some info regarding the boardroom-war that is going on behind the scenes at the Bulls.

According to Rapport, Heyneke gave them an ultimatum and actually handed them his letter of resignation, which forced an emergency board meeting at which they finally gave into his demands.

Apparantly Heyneke is asking for more power over coaching structures and player contracting, while the administrators are resisting him all the way.

According to Rapport, this is an election year, and administrators are electioneering rather than putting the good of the union first.

Get us some up to date info! This is serious stuff. 

Just shows you the difference in character between Heyneke and Jake White.

For Heyneke, its all about taking the Bulls to the next level, and he needs more power and authority to do this. For White, however, its all about more money. Heyneke is tight lipped about the whole thing, keeping it low key and behind the scenes, while Jake shoots his mouth off a day before the Boks play a test against France, effectively holding a gun to Saru&#039;s head. Integrity vs. greed. 

From a Bulls perspective, we need to get the Bulls-fans to back Heyneke all the way in this endeavour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keo</p>
<p>How about some info regarding the boardroom-war that is going on behind the scenes at the Bulls.</p>
<p>According to Rapport, Heyneke gave them an ultimatum and actually handed them his letter of resignation, which forced an emergency board meeting at which they finally gave into his demands.</p>
<p>Apparantly Heyneke is asking for more power over coaching structures and player contracting, while the administrators are resisting him all the way.</p>
<p>According to Rapport, this is an election year, and administrators are electioneering rather than putting the good of the union first.</p>
<p>Get us some up to date info! This is serious stuff. </p>
<p>Just shows you the difference in character between Heyneke and Jake White.</p>
<p>For Heyneke, its all about taking the Bulls to the next level, and he needs more power and authority to do this. For White, however, its all about more money. Heyneke is tight lipped about the whole thing, keeping it low key and behind the scenes, while Jake shoots his mouth off a day before the Boks play a test against France, effectively holding a gun to Saru&#8217;s head. Integrity vs. greed. </p>
<p>From a Bulls perspective, we need to get the Bulls-fans to back Heyneke all the way in this endeavour.</p>
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		<title>By: Staal</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126897</link>
		<dc:creator>Staal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also think the Bulls will struggle this year.

This team has to gell and a new coach is always a disruption. PHuman has his work cut-out for him and it definitely helps him that that &quot;senior players - boks&quot; are not there, because people always resist change.  

The Bulls must make a clean cut and give PHuman all the power - PHuman must have all the backing - even if they don&#039;t win the CC - building needs to be continiously. (groot woord vir &#039;n boertjie)
 
HMeyer must put all his time in the S14 and go that exstra mile to win it... he will have to change some of his methods, gameplans, and structures and although many people don&#039;t rate him as a coach - i think he&#039;s one of the best and as a person, motivator ect. he is up there with the best.

So lets wait and see - but it ain&#039;t gonna be easy!!!!!! But then again what in live is easy?

En om alles korrek in Engels te stel in ook nie maklik nie - so moet my nie laat weet wat is die spelfoute nie asb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think the Bulls will struggle this year.</p>
<p>This team has to gell and a new coach is always a disruption. PHuman has his work cut-out for him and it definitely helps him that that &#8220;senior players &#8211; boks&#8221; are not there, because people always resist change.  </p>
<p>The Bulls must make a clean cut and give PHuman all the power &#8211; PHuman must have all the backing &#8211; even if they don&#8217;t win the CC &#8211; building needs to be continiously. (groot woord vir &#8216;n boertjie)</p>
<p>HMeyer must put all his time in the S14 and go that exstra mile to win it&#8230; he will have to change some of his methods, gameplans, and structures and although many people don&#8217;t rate him as a coach &#8211; i think he&#8217;s one of the best and as a person, motivator ect. he is up there with the best.</p>
<p>So lets wait and see &#8211; but it ain&#8217;t gonna be easy!!!!!! But then again what in live is easy?</p>
<p>En om alles korrek in Engels te stel in ook nie maklik nie &#8211; so moet my nie laat weet wat is die spelfoute nie asb.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126894</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bulls may miss a bunch of Bok backs, but in the second half on Saturday they still made my Lions look ordinary. Granted most of the work was done up front (Pedrie and Dlulane were incredible) but they seem to have real depth in their backs. Delport is definitely going places. And I thought Morne Steyn hardly put a foot wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bulls may miss a bunch of Bok backs, but in the second half on Saturday they still made my Lions look ordinary. Granted most of the work was done up front (Pedrie and Dlulane were incredible) but they seem to have real depth in their backs. Delport is definitely going places. And I thought Morne Steyn hardly put a foot wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: benvk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126880</link>
		<dc:creator>benvk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jake se kop werk nie lekker nie. Hy se mense te vroeg sleg  dan is hy te trots om die na die tyd te kies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake se kop werk nie lekker nie. Hy se mense te vroeg sleg  dan is hy te trots om die na die tyd te kies!</p>
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		<title>By: Bluecap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluecap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Supa, I say Bulls, Cheetahs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supa, I say Bulls, Cheetahs.</p>
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		<title>By: benvk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2006/07/03/bulls-miss-bok-backs/#comment-126875</link>
		<dc:creator>benvk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bulls het die swakste span op papier maar die beste span op die veld. Hierdie is n jaar waar nuwe spelers groot name gaan word. Nou vra ek vir Jake is Solly beter as Tim!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bulls het die swakste span op papier maar die beste span op die veld. Hierdie is n jaar waar nuwe spelers groot name gaan word. Nou vra ek vir Jake is Solly beter as Tim!</p>
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