Breakdown battle beckons
6 Jul 2006
Vodacom Blue Bulls coach Pote Human identifies the opposition’s back row as the greatest threat in Saturday’s game in Pretoria.
The new coach said on Wednesday that his team would be ready for the likes of Luke Watson, Justin Melck and Schalk Brits at the breakdown, and will be looking to cut down on the turnovers.
“We know guys such as Luke and Schalk are dangerous on the ground, but I believe we are well prepared,” Human said.
The style between the two teams differ greatly, especially in the back row. The Bulls don’t play a specialised fetcher, but Tim Dlulane does add some extra intensity to the pack.
“Tim will want to play his natural game without getting involved in a war of words about who the best fetcher is,” said Human. “He is, in any case, a different kind of player and won’t want to compete with Luke.”
In the past few encounters, the Bulls have demolished the Vodacom Western Province pack. But Human is aware of how well the tight five of the Cape side has been playing lately.
“Province will produce a big onslaught. We know that. They have skilful fetchers, their tight five are much better now and Robbie Diack, Francois van der Merwe and Gerrie Britz are all good ball carriers.”
Human has also instigated a change on the wing by bringing in John Mametsa to cancel out the pace that Province possess out wide. “They try to play the old WP-type running rugby. We will have to watch players such as Gio Aplon and Joe Pietersen.”
Mametsa replaces Trompie Nontshinga and Hottie Louw, Hilton Lobberts and Riaan van der Bergh find themselves in the home team’s squad of 22 for the first time this season.
Blue Bulls: 15- Stefan Basson, 14- John Mametsa, 13- JP Nel, 12- Frikkie Welsh (c), 11- Marius Delport, 10- Morné Steyn, 9- Heini Adams, 8- Pedrie Wannenburg, 7- Tim Dlulane, 6- Johan Wasserman, 5- Francois van Schouwenburg, 4- Adriaan Fondse, 3- Rayno Gerber, 2- Gary Botha, 1-Wessel Roux.Substitutes: 16- Kobus van der Walt, 17- Jaco Engels, 18- Hottie Louw, 19- Hilton Lobberts, 20- Neil Powell, 21- Jacques-Louis Potgieter, 22- Riaan van der Bergh.
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7 Jul 2006, 08:49 am
Yoda
I know that.
But if Heyneke who is a master forwards coach. Definitely the best we have, is going to coach backs, then I am worried.
Why not get a specialists backline guy involved?
Jurgens
Ek se nie hy het niks geleer nie. Maar dis moeilik om iemand se persoonlikheid te verander. En ‘n ou se persoonlikheid het baie te doen met hoe hy speel.
7 Jul 2006, 08:51 am
Koos
That is the problem with SA players.
They get too attached to a coach and when he gets taken away they are lost.
Look at the JW saga. Players making demand cos Jake might leave.
Look at Skinstad. Without Alan Solomons, he was not the same player.
7 Jul 2006, 08:51 am
Na Saterdag is dit weer terug ‘drawing board’ toe vir die WP – en Luke gaan wys hoekom hy nog nie in die Springbokspan is nie
Die WP supporters praat maar baie stront, maar elke keer net voor die game. Na die naweek se game begin hulle dan eers weer so Woensdag/Donderdag eers weer met hulle nonsens. Week na week dieselfde storie.
Ek sien net blou.
Met die Voortrekkers saam, moes van die mense agterbly – die wat nie ‘n ossewa kon bou nie en die wat nie osse gehad het nie
7 Jul 2006, 08:52 am
Koos
Ja nee hulle sal seker weer eendag wen solank dit net nie teen die Bulle is nie gee ek nie om nie.
Die argument van wie die Curriebeker die meeste gewen het moet tog reg gevoer word. Die WP het hom die meeste keer gewen,maar toe het die Bulle nog nie bestaan nie en die teenstand was dus swak. Kyk na die aantal jare wat die unie bestaan, hoeveel keer die beker gewen is en sit dit om in suskses persentasie en alamal sal sien dat die Bulle die suksesvolste span(persentasie gewys) in SA is.
7 Jul 2006, 08:53 am
capeflatsboy
waarvan praat jy? hy speel mos nie self vir die bulle nie, fok almal in die sharks speel mos nie soos **** muir nie, o net die wp speel almal soos fester
7 Jul 2006, 08:54 am
Nou die Blou. hello fokkers ….Ek was lanklaas op hierdie site
7 Jul 2006, 08:57 am
Capeflats
Ek sien jy is op ‘n “roll” vanoggend… of is dit op die ” pote”…
7 Jul 2006, 09:06 am
Baas Naas, Jurgens, Koos,
I played both with and against Pote in his EP days. Hard player as you say. I did, however, receive a klap from him in 1981 or ’82, which left me bleeding out of my right ear. And this was in a Sevens match! Haven’t seen the bugger for years. Must look him up again.
7 Jul 2006, 09:08 am
FoxAche
LOL in a sevens game and your ear was bleeding, glad it wasnt a 15 man game
7 Jul 2006, 09:16 am
FoxAche, were you playing with him at the time?
Why did he klap you, were you naughty?
7 Jul 2006, 09:21 am
Jurgens
Dit gaan oor hoe hulle dink.
Die Sharks manne dink op hulle vote. Jy kan sien die invloed van **** & Campese.
Ek hoop ek is verkeerd omtrent Pote.
7 Jul 2006, 09:27 am
capeflatsboy
wat jy se maak nie sin nie
7 Jul 2006, 09:31 am
Ooohhhh , Bulle gaan more moet alles uithaal. Hulle het nog nie beindruk so ver nie. Dink hierdie game gaan ‘n omeswaai wees vir Province. Dis die begin vir goeie dinge vir Province.
7 Jul 2006, 09:35 am
Andre_WP
sorry maar julle het meer as n omswaai nodig
7 Jul 2006, 09:56 am
Pote and Schalk Burger Snr both played for what must be the dirtiest EP side in CC history. And, for EP, that’s saying something. At the time it was difficult to decide who was the biggest thug of the two although Schalk probably edged it due to his lack of concern about hiding it.
7 Jul 2006, 10:01 am
David
dont forget the days when adri geldenhuiz en elandre van den berg played, and domkrag
7 Jul 2006, 10:07 am
I am a WP supporter, but I’m afraid they have to start winning WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND, reach some finals, WIN THE CC…before they can say their is an improvement.
The problem with my beloved WP, is that they play a good game one weekend and **** the next.
All the talk is bullshit. ( yes, BULLshit ). They should start winning, then I’ll believe they on their way somewhere.
Enige iemand bereid om the buk vir busgeld ?
7 Jul 2006, 10:10 am
Kudu
Jy is een van die eerste wp manne wat sense praat van more
7 Jul 2006, 10:13 am
Jurgens,
Praat jy oor die buk-storie ? ( he he )
Nee, net ‘n joke. Maar, ek is ‘n groot WP-man, maar ek kan nie blind wees vir kak wat hier aangaan nie…
7 Jul 2006, 10:23 am
Kudu –
I agree 100%! No more talk!No more. Just play hard and stay out of the media focus. These guys sometimes remind me of JW mouthing off before test we where given our asses, that being said I think it is good for the guys to be confident. And unfortunately bullsh*&^%^%% supporters see any kind off confidence from Wp side to be arrogance.SAME.
O and one last thing. No more has beens for Wp. No more Gus,De Wet,Joubert,de Kock and Greefs. All I want to see is new guys, no-name brands making name….
7 Jul 2006, 10:26 am
Kudu
Eks n moerse bul en ak weet hoe jy moet voel ons is ook deur so n tyd. Soos jy se kry eers n trofee innie kas dan weet jy jy het verbeter
7 Jul 2006, 10:33 am
Jurgens
Yes, Adri tried to emulate Schalk. A friend of mine who grew up in the area reckoned that club matches were like minor gang wars that started and ended in the pub.
7 Jul 2006, 10:35 am
David
those 2 locks once had a big fight with one another at practice
7 Jul 2006, 10:38 am
Who won?
7 Jul 2006, 10:40 am
the other players broke it up after a while and the following saturday thet played lock togehter
7 Jul 2006, 10:46 am
I still remember the disbelief by Province supporters when Schalk joined WP. Although we did need someone to counter Hennie Bekkers generosity in taking lineout ball and then giving it back to the opposition.
It’s a bit strange seeing both their sons playing together.
7 Jul 2006, 11:16 am
David what about George Rautenbach? He was Schalk’s lock partner at EP.
7 Jul 2006, 11:27 am
Jurgens, Koos (59,60)
We weren’t alone. There were 12 other okes klapping each other. The ref (Dave Callaghan’s old man) caught a stray backhand, and landed on his backside. Ah, the memories.
David,
You’re talking about my mates! Andrew Johnson and Boelie Serfontein were also guys with whom you didn’t want to be on the wrong side of a snottie. The late Thys van der Merwe was the most feared, though.
7 Jul 2006, 11:36 am
Jurgens – a learning curve means you learn by experience. One would hopefully see a learning curve moving sharply upwards, but one seldom sees this in species man – as opposed to species woman that is. But I digress, we were talking about Bulls supporters…
Experience will tell you that success and failure come in cycles, so the ridiculously overbearing pronking around of the arrogant Bulls supporters is both funny and sad.
7 Jul 2006, 11:41 am
Hissss, miaaauw!
7 Jul 2006, 11:47 am
Pussycat
this comming from someone whos team dont shine on any level.
Lucky for the bulls things are looking great starting at u/13 level up to s14 level
7 Jul 2006, 12:57 pm
Raak julle ander ouens nie ook gatvol vir die Bulls suporters se kakpratery nie?? Hulle praat van die WP ouens wat windgat is, maar hulle vergeet hoe windgat hulle laasjaar was oor die CC, en hulle gaan aan asof die beker al klaar deur hulle gewen is.
Ek stem saam dat Fester ook JW siekte het en te veel praat, maar moet die ouens dan nou eerder soos skape na die slagpale toe loop en geen selfvertroue he nie. Onthou, elke stelling wat ‘n WP speler of afrigter maak is op ‘n vraag van ‘n verslagewer. So as Keo nou vir Luke vra wat hulle die naweek gaan doen, en hy vertel dat hulle Loftus toe gaan om te gaan verloor, dan bler julle almal weer oor hoe min selfvertroue die span het. Jy wen nie games as jy nie selfvertroue het nie…..
7 Jul 2006, 12:57 pm
FoxAche,
Ah the good old memories of the days when EP was still a powerhouse in SA Rugby and not the mess that it currently is. Pity we cannot put some of that old EP attitude into the S14, although they would probably have been at their worst for the local derby matches against the Stormers, Bulls and Cheetahs and not klap the handbaggers and shacledraggers from Down-under.
7 Jul 2006, 12:59 pm
Baas Naas
With todays yellow and red card system they’d never put together a team beyond the third round.
7 Jul 2006, 12:59 pm
Jurgens – are you simple? No, don’t answer that.
7 Jul 2006, 13:43 pm
Anybody know whats happening with the Fijian that was suppost to join WP. I believe the Puma prop turned WP down?
7 Jul 2006, 14:27 pm
kudu, I’m with you, one okay performance against a sharks pack last week and everyone’s excited. They have to sustain their improvement and get some big wins against the top 4 teams to be considered a force again and to regain some respect.
But at least last saturday gave us some hope because WP were supposed to be destroyed by the sharks(thank goodness Kees Lensing didn’t play).
We are experiencing exactly what the bulls were going through 4 years ago, it’s a pity there was no keo.co.za back then, then we could have been chuning those bulls supporters the same as they are now.
7 Jul 2006, 14:43 pm
Chune, chune chune!!!
7 Jul 2006, 17:54 pm
enjoying the bull horn up your arse, gbs?
28 May 2008, 21:57 pm
Oh, the good old days when Boelie Serfontein (most probably the best eighth man in S.A. at the time – yes, I think that at the time he was better than Jannie Breedt), Pote Human, Andrew Johnson, Schalk Burger, George Rautenbach, Dirk Mostert, Danie Gerber, crash-tackler Dennis Campher, Tobie Hanekom, Giepie van Zyl, Marius Ferreira, André Victor, Mynhardt le Roux, Kobus Delport, Henry Bezuidenhout, Chris Heunis and Doug Jeffery played for E.P. It must have been the meanest E.P. side ever. Campher was feared by all his opponents. The strength of that team was a direct result of the strength of club rugby in Eastern Province at the time (especially teams like Old Collegians, Despatch and the University of Port Elizabeth) and the coaching skills of Stan Terblanche.
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