Bob’s unfinished business
12 Mar 2007
Is Bob Skinstad too old, too fat or simply too good?
In his most revealing interview since coming home, Skinstad tells SA Rugby magazine why he wants to make another contribution to the game.
“When I announced I was returning to rugby I read that I was too old, that I had a beer boep, that I was too fat and that the game had passed me by,” he says. “The only way to counter those reports was to start at the back and work my way up again.”
Skinstad, who picked up 8kg of muscle in two months, believes his experience gives him an edge over the younger generation.
“I knew I would be up against guys who were physically stronger and faster, but I also knew they were mentally younger. The gym can’t give you life experience and the quickest 40m time doesn’t give you wisdom.”
Skinstad also reveals what was said during chats with Dick Muir and Jake White last year, how living in London changed him and why his wife and five-month-old daughter have given his life balance.
Also in the new issue of SA Rugby magazine:
– Why the High Performance Centre has failed
– How John Plumtree has given the Sharks pack an edge
– How the Sharks went from Super 14 chumps to potential champs
– John Mitchell rates the Boks’ World Cup chances and gives Luke Watson some advice.
– Graham Henry explains why the All Blacks can still get better
– Can Sevens save Gcobani Bobo‘s career?
– Jonny Wilkinson‘s magical return
– Naas Botha on why age shouldn’t matter in rugby
– Jonathan Kaplan defends Super 14′s under-fire referees
– Nick Mallett gives his verdict on the early Super 14 rounds
– Rassie on the new ruck laws
– We reveal AJ Venter‘s other life
– Who knows Monty better: wife Tasmin or team-mate Butch James?
189 Comments
12 Mar 2007, 12:03 pm
Too Good! the guy is a LEGEND!
12 Mar 2007, 12:03 pm
Bobby Stinkgat, you better start playing now boet, the comp is about halfway already…..
12 Mar 2007, 12:05 pm
reckon **** has a long term loosie plan for this tournament. britz, bobby and daniel have hardly played. i think they will start to feature on tour.
12 Mar 2007, 12:06 pm
Bob’s looking big. Cant WAIT to see him play. He should fukn go to the WC man, close your eyes and pick him Jake!!!!
12 Mar 2007, 12:10 pm
grootblousmile,Bob will take danies spot in the world cup squad one time my cuz!
12 Mar 2007, 12:10 pm
Pommie
You would change your view if you have seen him on Friday night!!
Sharks bought a has been and **** knows it!!
12 Mar 2007, 12:12 pm
I read in the papers that he was the difference between the Wildebeest and the Cheetahs and the reason why they won the game. But tell me what you saw.
12 Mar 2007, 12:13 pm
Ernest,Bob has more talent in his left big toe than the entire bulls loose trio put together
12 Mar 2007, 12:21 pm
Jeez, seems like the cover is aimed at the Female readers!!
Gonna be pretty funny walking into pick n pay and picking this months issue.
Thanks guys!
12 Mar 2007, 12:25 pm
Spook.
That’s the point! What guy wants to be seen picking up this magazine!!
The hardened rugby supporter will think he’s just bought the GQ.
12 Mar 2007, 12:26 pm
Legend Skinstad
12 Mar 2007, 12:27 pm
Spook,if you are a bulls supporter then you wouldnt want to give the game away now would you! LOL
12 Mar 2007, 12:28 pm
Johnny I agree Bobby has got heaps of talent but he will not be effective in this years S14 as he has been out of BIG rugby for to long.
Danie could make Bobby his ***** if and when he wants to.!!!!!!!!
12 Mar 2007, 12:28 pm
Dawn,and your point is? Would rather have bob on the cover than say…Gary Botha!
Jislaak,that boetie is a hond of note.
12 Mar 2007, 12:31 pm
Ernest,dream on pal! Looks like Danie is making Pedrie his ***** at the moment,saw them winking at each other on weekend.
Bob has what Danie can only dream of having and thats talent! As the age old saying goes,form is temporary,class is permanent!
12 Mar 2007, 12:32 pm
lol @ #14 “hond of note”
heh heh
12 Mar 2007, 12:35 pm
Bobby will give Danie a good pakslae en sommer n pk too.
12 Mar 2007, 12:36 pm
Think ill have to send my girlfriend in to buy the mag for me!
But hey, still looking forward to the mag, always a good read!
12 Mar 2007, 12:38 pm
Spook you can always send Dawn to pick it up for you : )
12 Mar 2007, 12:39 pm
Well said pommie.
Spook,you sound like a wet my boy!
Wake up its the 21st centuary.You may creep out of the closet now and leave your moms skirt alone.
12 Mar 2007, 12:40 pm
Ha ha!!
Im sure Dawn wont mind!
12 Mar 2007, 12:43 pm
Ag Johnny Bravo
Its called a joke my friend! Do you really think thats gonna stop me from buying the mag. Look at the Mens Health mag every month. Come now boet! And i buy that every month.
Slow down on the Brandy, its on 12:45. Cut back to singles.
12 Mar 2007, 12:51 pm
Johnny’s on the pappegaaislaai mate.
12 Mar 2007, 12:52 pm
I think that Bob should go to the WC – so far no #8 has impressed me this year.
12 Mar 2007, 12:54 pm
Dude have you been watching Ryan Kankowski play? The kids a genius. Bob should go however I agree.And Spies should be his understudy.
12 Mar 2007, 12:56 pm
RL
Not even Ryan Kankowski??
12 Mar 2007, 12:59 pm
TOO OLD
Bob is Finished
12 Mar 2007, 13:03 pm
Kankowski is good but he is still a kid – give him a few years to settle down. I would go for Bob and Big Joe – they have been there and done it and they can do it again.
12 Mar 2007, 13:07 pm
He’s got a bloody good rugby brain…SA needs players like him
12 Mar 2007, 13:08 pm
Compared to the conditioning levels of the All Blacks ..Bob is pretender. He hasn’t even proven himself on the pitch yet.
Over hyped ..big protential, nothing to back it yet.
12 Mar 2007, 13:09 pm
Monarchs would be well advised to use Anne Laing’s split seconds on their covers.
12 Mar 2007, 13:10 pm
What exactly has Kankowski done? He’s been average in open play. But he’s been very poor under the high ball, and actually I hold my breath everytime someone passes to him and when he takes a tackle, he drops more balls than JP Pietersen and thats saying alot.
12 Mar 2007, 13:11 pm
Foreskin is a hasbeen!Danie is no good!No one better than JS at the moment.
12 Mar 2007, 13:14 pm
Who’s Foreskin?
12 Mar 2007, 13:14 pm
please not joe v niekerk!!!agree kankowskis might be a little too young for bok duty.but no harm in giving him a show in tri nations
12 Mar 2007, 13:15 pm
#34 Bobby
12 Mar 2007, 13:17 pm
DAWN,WHY U TO ASK THAT Q? LOL
12 Mar 2007, 13:25 pm
agree 100% send joe and bobby at 8, the best this country will have have
12 Mar 2007, 13:26 pm
Big Joke is not a hasbeen…… he is a hasbeen’s hasbeen…… forget the tosser, he cannot even make the Stormers team….
….on Bobby, let him prove his worth in the Run-on Sharks S 14 team before singing his praises….
….. now writing Pakslae off is stuuuuuupidddd, who was the best SA forward on the E O Y Tour 2006??
Best loosies in SA at the moment: Baywatch, Ernst Joubert, Juan Smith, AJ Venter…..
….. ek lag vir julle fokkers!!
12 Mar 2007, 13:27 pm
This edition of the mag is not gona sell well
judging from the cover.
too *** (aka too Cape Town)
12 Mar 2007, 13:32 pm
I can’t view this thread at work, I get embarrassed every time I refresh my screen and have Bobby’s naked torso enblazened across the screen!
12 Mar 2007, 13:32 pm
Careful greatest13gerber, Johnny Bravo is going to have a full go at you now. Wait for it!
The minute i said something about the cover, he goes off that we in the 21st blah blah blah!!
Wait for it.
12 Mar 2007, 13:34 pm
grootblou, joe is injured . you right i will take pakslae he is brilliant, but the bulls forwards werent blessed with the brain of a complete athlete like joe or bob, you have to have those two when firing on all charges.
12 Mar 2007, 13:34 pm
gbsmile,
enige persoon wat nie vir pakslae wil kies nie, het, of n baie swak geheue of weet nie dat in die forwards jy harde manne moet hê nie. ek meen pakslae het die souties verlede jaar mal gemaak saam met Juan.
Harde manne is CJ, Guthro,GBotha Bakies,Hendro, Pakslae, Juan,AJ, Schalla ens ens. Bobby en Joe is filmstêre en niks meer nie. Talent ja maar hul raak weg as die game hard begin raak.
Daar’s nie n manier dat n mank Joe die span kan haal nie man!!! Wat v Baywatch wat fenominaal is die jaar? Maak liewers plek in groep vir hom.
ek hoop JW weet wat hy doen as hy die span kies vir WC.
IMO
12 Mar 2007, 13:37 pm
Lol yeah,yeah..do you think Frik du Preez would
walk into a store and buy this mag??
I don’t have to be a rocket scientist in marketing but that cover is Cape Town *** in my books and not very appropriate considering the majority of its readers are men.
12 Mar 2007, 13:41 pm
true staal, but the english side last year were the worst side ever, stevie wonder would have run circles around them, you have to have guys like danie and juan, world class players, we dont have a player that links the backs and forwards like joe or bob.
12 Mar 2007, 13:44 pm
Most of you are going to kak me out and Ig will probably threaten to ban me again, but I stand by what I think, and that is that that guy, Bobbie, is one of the greatest rugby players that ever lived, anywhere.
If he’s got his mind right, he’ll be back big time.
Only problem is that I have no idea what we’re going to do with all the loosies we’ve got. Smith, Schalk, AJ, Kabamba, Ernst Joubert, Daniels, Bobbie, Wikus, Danie, P3 etc etc.
Help so ‘n bietjie uit mense.
12 Mar 2007, 13:45 pm
Gbs.Pakslae maak my die donner in!
12 Mar 2007, 13:46 pm
#39 at least he was something not a never was bitter person like you
12 Mar 2007, 13:48 pm
#47 What are you?? the Bobby Skinstad Fan club president??..Snap out of it or better still move to Bulls country where real men live.
players are judged on the field not on paper.
12 Mar 2007, 13:50 pm
Ansie,greatest showboat ever!,not bad but the greatest!!!! —- never!.Did you have the privilege to see JP Rives??
12 Mar 2007, 13:50 pm
I agree with your nickname; I know a bit about Danie. But Bulls country????? Het destyds altyd vir my soos ‘n vreemde land gevoel toe ek daar gaan speel het.
12 Mar 2007, 13:52 pm
Tolla, I know this is going to sound a bit windgat, but I had the privilege to play against J-P. Bobbie is/was better than him.
12 Mar 2007, 13:53 pm
46 neels,
we have the link between forwards & backs – FdP.
forget about links – we need quick ball – hard/fast forwards will get ball/turn ball over for the backs.
Who’s the Ab’s link??
Richie = Fetcher
Collins = Ab’s Pakslae
Forgot the other flankers name but he’s also a hard ******* as well as a fetcher.(Plays for Canes)
AB’s link is their scrumhalf!!
We play with to many players who stand at flyhalf / centre – cause they wanna be the link?? But who’s gonna secure the ball for us?
We need 8 hard manne voor to supply backs with good quick ball – IMO.
12 Mar 2007, 13:55 pm
53 ansie,
na daai stelling nou moet ek ongelukkig alles wat jy sê met n bietjie sout vat!!!
12 Mar 2007, 13:58 pm
Ansie
Lyk my jys nie van hier nie!!!
As jy vir my kan sê wie die Franse se losskakel was daai tyd sal ek jou glo??
12 Mar 2007, 13:58 pm
good point staal.very true.
12 Mar 2007, 14:00 pm
Ou Staal, praat ons nou van Bobbie of iets anders? Ek staan vas by wat ek geskryf het in daardie verband. Maar wees tog ‘n bietjie genadig – ‘n “ou toppie” soos ek is geregtig daarop om van tyd na tyd so ‘n stelling te maak. Eendag vertel ek julle almal van ‘n ou met die naam van Rob Louw.
12 Mar 2007, 14:04 pm
i will still back joe and bobby though.
12 Mar 2007, 14:04 pm
Ansie,jy’s welkom om jou sê te sê! Ansie klink net bietjie snaaks.Kom ons noem jou Oubaas Markotter okay?
12 Mar 2007, 14:06 pm
58 ansie,
Rob Louw – who he?
LOL.
12 Mar 2007, 14:07 pm
Dear Webmaster,
Please ban ernest1, unless he suports his post #6. If he can’t remember let me paste it for him: “Pommie You would change your view if you have seen him on Friday night!! Sharks bought a has been and **** knows it!!”
I went thro the all the comments to see if ernest1 had any information to let us know what Skinstadt was doing on Friday night, to check if there was any reason to support him that **** had bought a has been, but nothing! I honestly thought that ernest1 was at some niteclub and found Skinstadt pissed and making a fool of himself. This is what he seems to imply. Obviously ernest1 is only spreading rumours for the sake of it.
I am tired of this type of rumour-mongering, the last time it prematuredly ended Rassie Erasmus’ career.
For the record I am not yet convinced on Skinstadt. I also note that Skinstadt only set the rugby world alight as a super-sub never as starting line-up, so this is not a post by some Skinstadt fan.
Webmaster get ernest1 to substantiate his statements, or apologise or be banned from the site.
Thanks
12 Mar 2007, 14:11 pm
He’s got the skills and the looks! Thats enough for me…:lol:
12 Mar 2007, 14:11 pm
Luv SA, going a little too far aren’t you?
12 Mar 2007, 14:15 pm
“Webmaster get ernest1 to substantiate his statements”
If we had that policy i would have to ban close to everyone. So i guess not.
It is ok for people to have different and varying opinions without the world ending.
12 Mar 2007, 14:16 pm
Choose……
Ab’s Collins vs SA Bobby or Pakslae….
a no-brainer!!!!!!
12 Mar 2007, 14:16 pm
I would however like to hear how Bob did on the weekend and is he any closer to joining up with the super14 team? Ernest1?
12 Mar 2007, 14:16 pm
Molly I agree!!
12 Mar 2007, 14:17 pm
melissa,
66 meant as a rugby player – lol.
12 Mar 2007, 14:17 pm
Ig. Thats the spirit,well handled
12 Mar 2007, 14:20 pm
I tell you if our loosies for the WC are Schalk Burger, Luke Watson and Danie Rossouw, with Skinstad on the bench weve got it made.
12 Mar 2007, 14:22 pm
Tolla, but alas, he seems to have dropped that pearl and run, maybe he’s going to other sites to find some info to back up his claim.
12 Mar 2007, 14:23 pm
71 pommie,
what about Juan???? Spies, Baywatch, Hendro, Joubert, Aj, P3, ens ens.
O-ja Luke is te kort!
12 Mar 2007, 14:26 pm
Pommie
penalties,penalties!!!
12 Mar 2007, 14:28 pm
Staal het te veel goeie loosies op die oomblik.Maar waar gaan ons senters kry??
12 Mar 2007, 14:29 pm
Juan loses out because he doesnt know how to pass a rugby ball. Spies would also be on the bench. P3 never, Baywatch extremely unlucky, Scholtz is a better lock,Ernst Joubert unlucky, AJ in my team as a reserve lock/flank.
12 Mar 2007, 14:31 pm
luv sa…are you bobby?
12 Mar 2007, 14:35 pm
I have no idea who I’d want as my favourite loose trio… Schalk and Juan would be favourites, 8th man, I’m not so sure. But there are so many loosies performing nowadays.
12 Mar 2007, 14:35 pm
#62 Where are you living at the moment? London?
12 Mar 2007, 14:39 pm
I am going to leap to the defence of both Bob and Joe here. In my humble opinion, Bobby has never been a “bruising”, physical loosie. At the start of his career it was all energy and raw talent. His ability to spot a gap, step through the tackle and offload is what set him apart and probably the reason for his inclusion in a springbok team along with the likes of Andrew Aitken and Corne Krige back in 1997.
As his cereer developed, Bob become a hell of a lot smarter about how he made his way around the park. He was never a “head-down”, “route-one” player. He always looked for the support and always linked, not always successfully, but it was his approach to the contact situation that made him special. Some of his best rugby was played linking with Joe van Niekerk. Bob drew the defenders and gave the Joe the space to make the yards.
This is the kind of player we need at the world cup. Whether Bob is the answer remains to be seen. I think Juan Smith is leaps and bounds ahead of any other loosie to fulfill this role for the boks. And i look forward to seeing his interplay with a guy like Joe. Some people have written the “not-so-big-during-2006/2007″ Joe van Niekerk off, but he is a player with tons of experience who does not throw 50/50 passes. He can grind it up in typical Bulls fashion or he a swivel and wind his way into gaps. The other form loose forwards in SA at the moment do not fulfill this role.
To conclude, we need smart loose forwards in the springok team. And by smart I mean players with “vision”, who can play the situation when right opportunities arise. And to be able to do this, a player must have experience (i.e. he has done it before). Bob has done it before…and so has Joe. I suppose there is only one spot available for an out and out ball carrier in the springbok loose trio and it would seem this spot belongs to Juan at the moment, but i do feel that having Bob on the bench at the world cup would be a great strategic advantage. Bob has achieved it all in rugby, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. And deep down we all want a guy like that in our team.
12 Mar 2007, 14:39 pm
75 tolla –
o hel ek weet nie, ek sien die manne praat nou weer van De Wet (dis nag as hy speel man).
Spelers soos JdV, JFourie is IMO die bestes wat ons het. Jean is nou wel nie op standaard nie maar miskien is die patetiese balbesit wat hy kry deel vd probleem.
Bulle – miskien WO/Julies as backup? Res – nee wat.
Sharks – ek rate nie vir Barrit te veel nie! Lyk nie of hy die ander ouens in die span kan lig nie.
Stormers – behalwe JdV – niemand.
Cheetahs – Beste seker is Ronnie Cook. Laaik hom maar nie seker dat hy beter is as die bestaande bokke nie. Miskien Bosman – maar hy tackle soos sy agterent.
Lions – behalwe JFourie – ek dink nie Pretorius is goed genoeg nie – het spoed maar nie baie “bol” nie.
12 Mar 2007, 14:46 pm
Staal as JdV nie gaan reg kom en JF moet beseer raak het ons groot bollie op senter.
12 Mar 2007, 14:47 pm
82 Namwp,
verseker – maar ons het darem n backup op senter – Big Vic!!
12 Mar 2007, 14:48 pm
luke watson speel nogal baie op senter.
12 Mar 2007, 14:49 pm
#80 Obiwan, I hear you on Juan at the moment and Bob in his day, but come aannnn…Big Joke van Niekerk in the same same sentence???
12 Mar 2007, 14:49 pm
Ek gedog hys backup losskakel.Hehehe
12 Mar 2007, 14:49 pm
Waylon Murray looked quite good this weekend.
12 Mar 2007, 14:51 pm
Umm,no he is just too F^%$ed up.
12 Mar 2007, 14:51 pm
Namwp hy speel n verskillende backline posisie elke game.ek dink hy probeer sy ideale posisie tekry.
12 Mar 2007, 14:52 pm
Pommie yes he did but is he good enough for int rugby.
12 Mar 2007, 14:53 pm
84,
nee wat hy’s te kort vir n senter.
12 Mar 2007, 14:54 pm
Staal,lyk my Skinstadt is nou keo se nuwe “pet project”.laasjaar was dit luke.
12 Mar 2007, 14:59 pm
92 fern,
ek het seker die beste chirp so n paar jaar gelede op loftus gehoor van n man en vrou wat wag dat die stormers na die game buite Loftus oppad is na hul bus toe (Bob het 3 knocks gevat in die game – 2 met oop doellyn voor hom!!!).
Vrou vir man: “Gooi my asb in Bobby se arms as hy verbykom”
Man vir vou: “Ek sal dit nooi doen nie want hy sal jou laat val”
LMAO!!!!
12 Mar 2007, 14:59 pm
Fern ek nie so gepla met Sa se voorspelers nie dis die klonp daar agter wat hoofberekings besorg.
12 Mar 2007, 15:02 pm
Staal Dis mos julle en die Saders die naweek.Speel hulle AB’s?
12 Mar 2007, 15:02 pm
Staal dis die waarheid daai.ek **** aan die binnekant van sy onderlip staan daar “Inflate to 2 bar”.Namwp ek stem saam,jake moet nou nuwe ouens agter probeer voor die wc.
12 Mar 2007, 15:03 pm
Bob “the tongue” is in the same class as rudolf strauli and corne krige.
All three a disgrace to the game,jersey and humanity in general.
12 Mar 2007, 15:06 pm
Wie en wat se kombinasies.Niemand behalwe Fourie du Preez en JF het al hand op gesteek nie.
12 Mar 2007, 15:09 pm
namwp,ons het kak en n plan sal gemaak moet word.
12 Mar 2007, 15:18 pm
95 Namwp,
Nee hulle speel nie BA’s nie – ook nie seker dat hulle die Ab’s nodig hettie.
Daai ouens is amper onstuitbaar op tuisveld.
ek hoop nie Hm kies nou so omdat hy amper die “game wil prysgee en spelers rus nie” – ek twyfel.
97 bblood,
kyk Bob het baie “ballsence” maar talent bring jou net sover! Jy moet wragtag hard wees as jy n loosies wil wees want dis verstommend hoeveel knocks daai ouens van in n game – ek het jare in die kleedkamer gesit en net my kop geskud as daai manne die fisio opsoek – die lywe is vol trapmerke en pimpelpers en blou.
Ek dink Bob het die flair maar het hettie die hart en lyf (ongeag hoe die foto lyk) om daai houe te vat nie.
Kyk na CKrige hy het die hart gehad en nie die lyf nie – wie het meer hart as hy gehad? – kyk hoeveel keer was hy beseer. Hy het sy lewe gegee maar nie altyd bly staan na die fight nie.
Dis wat JCollins, Juan en Pakslae iets besonders maak – jy weet dit as hulle jou van voor aanvat.
En soos een oud Sprinbok eendag vir my ges̻ het Рhoe langer jy speel hoe meer versigtiger raak jy vir die harde manne wat hulle is te onnosel om te weet hoe seer hul jou maak.
n Mens noem dit RESPEK. Kan jy respek afdwing in die tackle,losgamaal ens ens.
Rugby is 90% geweld (ongeag wat die “purists wil sê”) en en vandaar dat n goeie kleintjie as n reel nie beter is as n goeie grote nie.
IMO.
12 Mar 2007, 15:19 pm
Staal jy kan al die ballsense in die wereld het maar as jy saam met 14 idiote speel help dit niks nie.
12 Mar 2007, 15:22 pm
fern,
waar’s walla??? Wonder wat sê die man nou?
12 Mar 2007, 15:24 pm
staal die manne raak maar stil,hy kosentreer seker op die krieket.as ek moet kies tussen bob en kabamba kies ek kambamba enige dag.
12 Mar 2007, 15:26 pm
delport gaan sy gat sien die naweek teen die crusaders.
12 Mar 2007, 15:26 pm
eishhh maar wat van Baywatch??
12 Mar 2007, 15:28 pm
wat?Baywatch op senter?Hy het klaar die hare om nonu tematch
12 Mar 2007, 15:29 pm
Geez, but there are some really DUMB people on this site.
The guy hasn’t even started for the Sharks in the Super 14 and he is the most talked about player! The crowd went wild when he ran for his ten minutes, and here he is gracing the cover of SA Rugby. Guarantee sales will go up.
He is a legend, even if you are a one-eyed supporter and will always have hordes of fans. He is a good buy for a franchise always leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to marketing even if he doesn’t take to the field.
ever wondered why ryk neethling is so much more famous than Roland schoeman even although Roland hands him his *** every time they compete…
12 Mar 2007, 15:31 pm
kevin, I am not talking about him, I am telling the world what a piece of sh*t he is.
12 Mar 2007, 15:32 pm
he is not a legend by any stretch of the imagination.
12 Mar 2007, 15:33 pm
Staal, Fern, etc is it true that the devide between North and South is so far apart that you guys can not see how great Bobby Skinstad was? And that he was born to lead the Springboks? And that Corne only got the job because Bob fell vitim to a motor car accident?
Or does the brandy blur your vision to the point that the only aspect of a loose forward you are cabable of noticing is how hard he hits his opposition?
12 Mar 2007, 15:38 pm
110 bboy,
i take notice of your opinion and even you have the right to say something. I will also defend your right to an opinion – but it is not to say that i have to second your opinion.!!
stop insulting me when i differ from you please.
What the hell has North & South got to do with this?
12 Mar 2007, 15:39 pm
blueblood
You probably said the same **** when the sharks bought Percy and made the wheelchair jokes about Ackerman.
Only real has-been playing super 14 this year is Bostik leonard at the bulls – now that is a **** buy. i’m just waiting for the plonker to dye his hair black again, he might then be a little more marketable!
12 Mar 2007, 15:39 pm
bobby was an average international player and a good provincial player, I will give him that.
But all this hoohah about him is pathetic. All the female rugby supporters think he is a rugby god who can do no wrong. These self same people fall into the Os Snyman category. We were watching rugby once and I asked a lady what team she supports. She asked me if bobby was playing and he was, so I said yes, and she asked who he is playing for and I said WP and she said “oh,then thats who I support”.
Pierre Spies is ten times better than bobby was.
12 Mar 2007, 15:40 pm
Even though he has been out the game for some time, I will still pick the legend Bobby Skinstad ahead of:
Donkey Rossouw
Pedrie Wanneberg
AJ Venter
Pierre Spies
Anton Leonard
Jaques Cronje
12 Mar 2007, 15:42 pm
Ag please, Pierre Spies ? Then why isin’t your almighty bobby playing for the Bokke? Why isin’t your ***** ****** super bobby star playing in the green and gold?
12 Mar 2007, 15:44 pm
111 Touchy touchy, did I strike a nerve?
My point is that you guys up north are prejudice to wards the great Bobby Skinstad.
Bobby is a lose forward. LOSE forward. All you guys can think about up north is strenth rather than genius and ball skills.
12 Mar 2007, 15:46 pm
115 bblood,
now you’re loosing it!!
12 Mar 2007, 15:47 pm
115 The master Jake White has not announced his squad yet.
You all know that if ever there was a couch to select Bobby for the Boks it is Jake.
12 Mar 2007, 15:52 pm
There’s no place to hide on a rugga field Bob
12 Mar 2007, 15:53 pm
117 Thank you Staal for keeping your aggresive friend Bluebeard onder control…I never thought Afrikaans people used the Lord’s name in vain.
12 Mar 2007, 15:58 pm
Bob will go to the WC. South Africa will beat New Zealand in the final. If ever there was a team that chokes in Rugby WCs its the All Blacks. Our forwards will jsut about outmuscle all the other packs, regardless of who our loosies are. No one will match our pack. We just need a solid flyhalf.This must be Steyn and he must be backed up by Butch. We need Percy as the kicker.Fourie Du Preez must be backed up by Ruan Pienaar.Centres are our main problem. At this stage I would take De Wet Barry as inside with Bradley Barrit as backup. Outside must be Jacques Fourie and Jean DV. Wings will be Paulse, Habana, Ndungane and Jaco Pretorius.
12 Mar 2007, 16:02 pm
Pommie, where is the transformation in that team? Unfortunately thats something we need to think about.
12 Mar 2007, 16:04 pm
pommie why Paulse???
12 Mar 2007, 16:08 pm
Ill add JP Pietersen as cover for Monty. Now weve got three potential starting players of colour. It is quite scary to think who will be left out at the expense of transformation.Ruan might get unlucky with Januarie coming in. Among the forwards weve got big problems because on merit only Kabamba gets picked at this stage.
12 Mar 2007, 16:09 pm
115 – Shame, poor old Blueblood is getting upset at the thought of Bob going to the WC07, and his beloved little Spiesie staying at home.
Spies is every bit as good as Bob was in his heyday. AT NIGHT WHEN HE IS DREAMING!
Most of you guys on this site are fucked up – Pick my team! No, pick my team! No pick my player cause yours is kak! Bloody stupid.
A player could have had the best 20 games in a row ever, then you’d still get a Blue Bull saying that their 40 year old charity case player is better.
Get a life please.
ps. Congrats to the Bulls and Sharks players – Outstanding wins over the weekend.
John Smit looked better. Murray played well. Fourie best in the world. Habana playing rugby again. Uys a lone ranger for the Stormers.
12 Mar 2007, 16:11 pm
123 Hes got loads of experience and an educated boot. Phillip Burger actually merits selection above him, but gavament wont allow our best team to go, you and I and the rest of the Rugby loving community out there know it.
12 Mar 2007, 16:12 pm
125 ruff,
where does this Uys come from? He can play a bit!
Stormers loosies were also very good but without support from the t-5.
12 Mar 2007, 16:13 pm
126 pomkie,
okay now i understand the selection.
12 Mar 2007, 16:13 pm
pomkie = pommie
sorry
12 Mar 2007, 16:16 pm
ruffneck go piss with the puppies. you havent been bloggin here for long so dont throw insults around. True some people let emotion govern their statements, but so be it, its harmless and actually leads to solid debate.
12 Mar 2007, 16:17 pm
I found that quite affectionate from you staal – for a moment there I thought you might be hitting on me! lol
12 Mar 2007, 16:18 pm
Uys is from Bredasdorp, played at Maties. Actually played flyhalf for Boland Craven Week if Im not mistaken.
12 Mar 2007, 16:20 pm
I like the way Bluebeard went straight to his basket as soon as his master ordered him to.
Staal, will he come out again to find a bone or is he waiting for your command?
12 Mar 2007, 16:20 pm
131 pommie,
not to worry we don’t endulge in that sort of thing north of the jukskei.
12 Mar 2007, 16:21 pm
only been blogging for about a year, so i probably dont qualify for the “act like an idiot to call yourself a true supporter club”. damn!
12 Mar 2007, 16:23 pm
well consider yourself lucky then I guess and go to bed.
12 Mar 2007, 16:24 pm
what an idiot
12 Mar 2007, 16:25 pm
135 Like water off a duck’s ***, Ruffneck! Pommie has no right to tell you off, this is a public blog site.
12 Mar 2007, 16:26 pm
The next thing you twats are going to say is that the moon is made of cheese. There is no doubt thta mr. Skinstad was, and I guess could still be, one of the most talented players to run onto a rugby field. Class I think not. It takes more than a couple of good games to be rated as class. Bob wasted a whole career because he had no class, he thought he was bigger than the game and what happened, the game spat him out. Taking him to the world cup can work and he has got a couple of months to prove he can still play at this level but going down memory lane when every thing was being built around Bobby he was pathetic. When it counted the most we had a split Bok team with Booby stuck in the middle(lets not forget the week before the Stomer played a home semi)hope he has grown up like every one claims.
12 Mar 2007, 16:29 pm
I am so glad Skinstad is back. Watching him comentate on sky sports was so frustrating coz he looked like he could still play top flight rugby. But i m afraid we do need a charismatic player in the Boks and i don’t know yet who will be sacrificed to allow Bob in the Boks.
12 Mar 2007, 16:31 pm
Educated boot.
I hate that phrase.
12 Mar 2007, 16:32 pm
The more I look at that cover, the less I like it.
12 Mar 2007, 16:33 pm
Hello all
wassup
as for spook comment #22 Mens Helath is just for **** no wonder you dont mind picking up a mag
hehehe
12 Mar 2007, 16:34 pm
Bobby might or might not make it but he is still a legend in his own mind
12 Mar 2007, 16:34 pm
IG howdy if you are around
12 Mar 2007, 16:35 pm
hallo Mr Lam
12 Mar 2007, 16:36 pm
Howdy Lam
12 Mar 2007, 16:37 pm
Players do not need to be charismatic lee, only fire and brimstone preachers.
Staal is correct, a loosie must be a hard *******.Skinstad has porcelain balls. He cannot handle it. It is all good and well when the game opens up and he shines with the team going forward,this can be done against the minnows.But this years S14 is an indication of what is going to happen at the WC. It is going to be hard.
Did you not learn the lesson the stormpies have been giving us week in and week out, the platform is set upfront and there is no place for powder puff’s.
12 Mar 2007, 16:38 pm
Stall wat se jy
gaan dit goed?
12 Mar 2007, 16:38 pm
Yeah, his hips is a wide as his shoulders
12 Mar 2007, 16:39 pm
ive got blog withdrawel over the last two weeks and still two weeks of limited access left
you okes have a good night
cheers
12 Mar 2007, 16:40 pm
I’m going to reserve my judgement on Bob until he plays, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves, getting your knickers in a knot on a player who hasn’t played yet, wait a while and then we can start this fight.
12 Mar 2007, 16:40 pm
Mr Lam
What u up to????????????
12 Mar 2007, 16:41 pm
Molly
It’s not his play IT’S THAT COVER!!!
12 Mar 2007, 16:41 pm
And… I think Spies is not that into the rough stuff either, he’s a ball runner and there is nothing wrong with that.
12 Mar 2007, 16:42 pm
Dawn, some people are actually talking about his play… although I don’t think the cover has ever been a hit with the people on this site, except that one of Fran Steyn, maybe its because he was on the rugby field that it was deemed ok.
12 Mar 2007, 16:45 pm
Spies is a lot smarter, harder and stronger than bob.He just needs experience. Remember he moved from wing to loosie and is still learning the craft
He has tons more speed than bobby and a better step. He is not shabby in the line out either.
12 Mar 2007, 16:46 pm
Cant understand why there is a debate about Bobby. He’s a has been…………
12 Mar 2007, 16:47 pm
and has been one for years
12 Mar 2007, 16:48 pm
149 Mr Lam,
bit surprised actually – didn’t think the Bulls had ANY chance down under!
12 Mar 2007, 16:48 pm
Xkreni, he was actually a Loosie they tried to put on the wing, after that failed they moved him back. And I don’t think he is stronger than Bob, or harder, he wouldn’t even come close to AJ in the toughness stakes.
I would actually like to see them run next to eachother, could be interesting to see.
All your points are you presuming that he is better, I would love to see some facts, cause I’m guessing him and Bob would be the same in the lineout too.
12 Mar 2007, 16:48 pm
Spies is a lot smarter, harder and stronger than bob – based on what ?
Spies hasn’t played wing in two seasons, he was an 8th man at junior levels except when he played for the junior Boks on the wing.
In my mind Spies = Hype !
He still has a log way to go. He could be a great player if he keeps his head about him.
As to Bob, when he actually plays some rugby i will pass judgment.
12 Mar 2007, 16:53 pm
Spies sal sy verdediging moet opknap en meer sy werk doen. Ek twyfel egter nie dat hy dit in hom het nie. Hy speel ook soos sy coach dit v hom verwag maar ek moet darem se dat ek ken daai laaitie vandat hy 7 jaar oud is.
Hou hom dop – moet hom nie nou-al afskryf nie.
Hy is ook iemand wat nie met sy kop in die wolke loop nie.
12 Mar 2007, 16:58 pm
Hey,
I see Bobby is doing an impression of me on the cover photo.
12 Mar 2007, 17:00 pm
staal ek rate ook vir spies,ek dink nie dat meyer se gameplan hom altyd komplimenteer nie.
12 Mar 2007, 17:15 pm
all I’ll say is it takes something to chase your dream…to walk away from a cushy life any of us would dream of, to put yourself at the mercy of the public’s self righteousness, and put your body at the mercy of the monstrous back three’s in this years S14…8 kg’s in 2 months, running on on Vodacom Cup games, moving to Durban…He’s got my attention, and if he can crack it wouldn’t that be a come back of Micheal Jordan proportions?…Respect Bob. Good Luck brother.
12 Mar 2007, 17:16 pm
die ding van Spies is dat hy geleer is om aan te pas.
Hy is daai tipe ou wat 10 keer harder sal probeer as hy swak speel. Hy het alles wat n jong rugbyspeler nodig het en ek dink hy het ook die coach wat hom sal help. Ek meen hel hy is nog bloedjonk.
Ek en sy pa was baie goeie vriende en Pierre (Ouboet soos ons hom noem), gaan dit nog vêr bring. Om die waarheid te sê hy het al klaar vrek baie vermag. IMO.
12 Mar 2007, 17:18 pm
Jamied,
I’m just not sure his motive is right, he’s been gone for how long? And now he comes back, like 8 months before the World Cup, and hopes to make it, when it was so easy to leave it all behind in the first place.
I would rather pick people that have been committed to SA from the beginning.
12 Mar 2007, 17:18 pm
166 jamied,
great post.
Ya we need to congratulate Bob for the decision he made. A great Skinstadt might be a plus for the Sharks – it’s now in his hands.
12 Mar 2007, 17:26 pm
168 Molly,
I don’t know what his life was like 4 years ago, I think he thought he was done…and he didn’t go easily, he even gave JHB a pretty solid crack before he left and lets be honest the Cats outfit must have been a nightmare to work with…he’s clearly made a decision and is going for it…that’s gotta be a tough call and the odds are stacked against him but who knows…
en staal, 167 nice post yourself, the kids got good a great ‘houding’ en ek dink ook hy gaan ver gaan. remember how good big joe looked running off bob back in the day…I think he’d have a great influence…
12 Mar 2007, 18:17 pm
Bob’s abs are almost as good as mine.
12 Mar 2007, 18:29 pm
I also saw Bobby on friday night, he was playing for the wildebeest… Played a great game actually, showed great tactical acumen and leadership, made some telling tackles too. His only blemmish is he got yellow carded early in the second half….
I suspect #6 was just expressing an opinion…
12 Mar 2007, 18:39 pm
on the game…
12 Mar 2007, 22:17 pm
pakslae is a lock. end of story!
comparing two playes of different styles is like comparing TWO PLAYERS OF DIFFERENT STYLES.
someones earlier comment, who would you rather have in a tussle against jerry collins?
collins vs bob or danie.
an unbias reply would be that collins would hand both danie and bob their arses in the physical exchanges. whereas in the link and support play bob (on previous form) would outshine collins. danie would have rings run round him by collins.
throwing spies into this arguement is typical rugby banter. this kid at the moment has to back up his game in his 2nd season or he becomes another 1 season wonder. spies has oodles of talent and has shown he could possibly make it at the highest level, and having the tutorship of skinstad on his doorstep would help his performance curve and his professional career.
but the stone age thinking of some rugby supporters wouldnt want their player spies to be polluted with bob skinstad speak fearing that spies will become a showpony, glitzy superstar that relies more on his skills than koppestamping opposition.
12 Mar 2007, 22:26 pm
is the mag available in auckland?
12 Mar 2007, 22:31 pm
ideal loosies for world cup. the following at their best are unrivaled in SA.
schalk, juan, aj, bobby, big joe and spies. danie must go as a lock – and nothing more barring a horrific injury list like we had last year.
the world cup is gonna be played at the end of summer, not in winter – its not gonna be typical NH conditions – so no need for dinosaur loosies.
by the way – Australia is the only team ever to win a world cup in the NH….
12 Mar 2007, 23:32 pm
good reminder there munkiboi about aussie only team to win in NH. that makes for some interesting re-analysis
i agree with your list of loosies too.
12 Mar 2007, 23:35 pm
keo
are the articles from old SA rugby editions available to read online? in auckland the only rugby mags i can get my hands on, are one eyed kiwi worshipping mags and the ones from pommieland.
id love to get a read of some sa rugby articles, even if they are a month old. cheers
12 Mar 2007, 23:53 pm
Bobby you legend … we deffo going to avail ourselves of his services at the WC
13 Mar 2007, 01:19 am
So big joe and Bobby are now bok contenders in ppls minds??? are you on smack, or is nostalgia more important than form…?
13 Mar 2007, 08:56 am
8 kg of muscle in 2 months???? Hahahahaha. He should sell his secret to the pro bodybuilders. Even with all the steroids in the world they battle to put on 8kgs of pure muscle in 2 months!!!!!!
Nice try.
13 Mar 2007, 09:27 am
It’s a little too early to be shouting praise from the rafters for Bob….but it’s also too early to discount him entirely. In his day, he was a fantastic rugby player. Yes, he had a bad attitude, he was arrogant and he had a strange compulsion to point his tongue at everyone…but he was a supremely talented rugby player. My choice for starting loose trio for the WC… Watson(6), Ernst Joubert(7) and Spies(8). With Rossouw and AJ on the bench.
13 Mar 2007, 09:42 am
Pommie # 121
The boks are winning the AB`s one out of ten games.That is when the AB`s are on their k@kste and the boks on their best and the game on SA soil.
“Our forwards will just about outmuscle all other packs” – I don`t know what the world “outmuscle” means (its only used by saffas).While you are busy outmuscling yourselve McCaw will be running with the ball making yards.
“Need a solid flyhalve” – You don`t have one.
“We need Percy as a kicker – Old percy will kick alright and thats about it but first teach him to catch the high ball.
“De wet Barry at inside” – for heavens sake!!
Your whole post sounds like a dream of some lunatic.
13 Mar 2007, 09:48 am
Can you guys not remember what Bobby and Joe did when they played together. As a team, if they are on form it will be a unbeatable combination.
They can not be played in every game but if the fields are fast they have the skill to demolish any oposition.
Just think of this, Skalla, Bobby & Joe in perfect shape and playing well.
We have incredible depth in our loose forwards this year, Ernst, Baywach, Pakslae, JS, AJ… none of them will let ANY side down.
13 Mar 2007, 11:33 am
Namblack
Butch James and Francois Steyn are solid flyhalves who would walk into most teams in the world. Percy is suspect under the high ball but brings alot of experience to the back and has been playing some excellent rugby this year. Maybe you should watch De Wet Barry objectively and tell me if he is really as poor as people would make him out to be. The Springbok pack will outscrum, outjump and drive any team in the world off the ball. That is outmuscle in my view – hopefully this enlightens you. This would neutralise the effect of guys like Richie McCaw and allow guys like Schalk Burger to make the metres. One out of ten times you say? Go read your stats again boy.
13 Mar 2007, 11:34 am
Why dont you and your all blacks go CHOKE on that once again.
13 Mar 2007, 14:27 pm
So what are you saying,the AB`s will loose the WC because they will choke or because they will be outmuscled by a Only-Rustenburg-Winning-by- intercept-try Boks?
Which one of the two.
Try first things firts.Firts try win the S14 without 22 AB`s then the worst England team in history.Then you try and out muscle us and if that does not work hope for the AB`s to choke which will probably not be against you because you will not reach the final.
Stop hoping for things and start producing results!!
13 Mar 2007, 17:40 pm
Sien Bobby het niks van sy Rooi Rose en Sarie voorblad gesiggies verloor nie … waarvoor nou n kaalbolyf op n mans tydskrif?
Nee wat Bob ek dink jou besigheid in London het jou meer nodig as die Sharks.
14 Mar 2007, 02:34 am
There is nothing like a 5 month old daughter to shake you awake and make you focus on whats important, and what tyou want. and what you always want is your little daughter to be as proud of her daddy as she can possibly be.
Make no mistake, he WILL be back, come hell or high water…
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