Stormers win Rassie tug-o-war
24 Jul 2007
Rassie Erasmus will not attend the World Cup due to his commitment to the Stormers.
After a meeting on Monday involving Erasmus’s lawyer, Saru MD Jonathan Stones and manager of national teams Andy Marinos, it was learned he will stay behind to work with the Stormers.
Erasmus was recently appointed Senior Professional Coach at the Cape franchise which sees him coaching the Stormers as well as occupying the Director of Rugby position. After signing a four-year contract he is expected to start preparations for next season from 1 August.
Since coaching the Cheetahs in the Super 14, Erasmus has helped the Boks as a technical adviser to coach Jake White. Having no official contract with SA Rugby he joined the Cape union last Friday.
48 Comments
24 Jul 2007, 17:23 pm
My first no. 1. Dragons?
24 Jul 2007, 17:23 pm
Nie asof dit Weeee Peeeee help nie.
Ek hoop hulle speel volgende jaar in die 2de liga. (Kaas & Brandewyn kompetisie)
24 Jul 2007, 17:35 pm
thats a joke.
surely they can let him go for a month over the world cup ? if anything it will help his position … will make a heap of contacts etc.
besides …. surely its in the boks interest to have him there.
that said i cant believe SARU never gave him some sort of contract
rugby is, officially, run by palookas
24 Jul 2007, 17:38 pm
COMe ON AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give the guy a farkin contract SArugby you fookin bustards.
And now he stays, when we all need him to go.
And so the foot shooting starts.
Like I said: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR%RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24 Jul 2007, 17:38 pm
Typical WP\Stormers mentality…….thinking of themselves over national interests!
24 Jul 2007, 17:39 pm
rassie you ****
24 Jul 2007, 17:45 pm
Een se brood is die ander se dood…
24 Jul 2007, 17:46 pm
Smart move by Rassie!
24 Jul 2007, 17:46 pm
Maybe the Bok can pay Rassies services for a month.
He was one of the best bok loosies of all time and the Boks are going to need him
24 Jul 2007, 17:47 pm
5. big dawg
Not saying you’re wrong, but when has WP/Stormers done that before?
24 Jul 2007, 18:01 pm
Looks like the dawg is not so big after all.
24 Jul 2007, 18:01 pm
Pity, Rassie has a lot to add. Clearly the Cheetahs benefited greatly from him and would have been nice to have him there at the WC, helping with strategy as we go along.
Rassie, book off sick man and go to France.
24 Jul 2007, 18:08 pm
Bud,I was working so didn’t have time to answer!
WP is a graveyard of talented players,WP simply have to have the best players on the market and then they ruin their careers.Think about Big Joe,Schalk Brits,Tonderai Chavanga,Marius Joubert,Gerrie Britz,Hanyani Shimange and Brent Russel…..all these players careers have stalled badly at WP\Stormers.
It doesn’t just stop with players,Nick Mallett’s reputation has been damaged by his stint with WP.Kobus van der Merwe was a reputable coach before heading to WP.luckily Gary Gold has escaped being painted with the unsuccessful brush for the moment cos he has been primarily coaching u/21 this season and was assistant coach previously and therefore not in the firing line.
The Stormers constantly ignore national interests in the S12\14 by playing national players out of position (before you get all grumpy,I know other teams do this too).
Basically Cape rugby should be looking internally for their solutions and not externally.They have the rugby player factory known as Stellenbosch university so why the constant need to poach players and coaches from other provinces?
Good fight,good night!
24 Jul 2007, 18:19 pm
everybody thinks its rassie!! its the players of the fs thats preforming!!!
FS playing well but in the top structure somthing is not right. they think they are gonna be the best team in the country if they buy just two or 3 grey boys its a team game!!!
They need to keep the whole FS cravenweek team there!!
24 Jul 2007, 18:21 pm
is the country’s rugby gonna turn black after the RWC? what about contracts? Anyway it wont last long!! they will see that they cant cope and blame it on apartheid!!!!
24 Jul 2007, 18:21 pm
runningriot…..more like running idiot!
24 Jul 2007, 18:43 pm
tipies Stormers…hulle kak span is vir hulle belangriker as Suid-Afrika se nasionale span wat deelneem aan die WERELDBEKER!
24 Jul 2007, 18:49 pm
maybe jake didn’t need his input,jake’s springboks are run by jake only.
24 Jul 2007, 19:09 pm
Defintiely something else going on here.
That media report from SARU stinks to high heaven with the things they didnt say.
The report runs along the lines of ‘they sat down with Rassie for a meeting today and concluded he would not be goign to the WC’.
Think there’s been a big falling out here. My guess is with his royal whiteness.
24 Jul 2007, 19:10 pm
Its no coincidence that Jake annoucnes Eddie Jones is consulting and he hopes to get SCW onboard and then a few hours later Rassie is suddenly out of the picture.
Think a bit further Supa…
24 Jul 2007, 19:27 pm
province before country again?
24 Jul 2007, 19:37 pm
#2 tshwaneerder
Kaas en brannewyn liga bestaan net in “Pirtooria” – die kaap maak “brannewyn” van al die drek wat oorgebly het van die swakste druiwe en verkoop dit aan die “Tshwaneerders”, want hulle weet dit gaan gedrink word saam met Fanta Grape.
24 Jul 2007, 20:12 pm
Vinnie has a point there, rassie out to be replaced by Eddie Jones, Jakes old mate.
But you guys are slow this evening, nobody has blamed Luke Watson yet……
24 Jul 2007, 20:42 pm
# 20 Vinnie – don’t often go lol – far too serious about my game – but ” his royal whiteness” had me in stitches! Even over here in Pomerania that is funny!
24 Jul 2007, 21:46 pm
Grow up girls. Eddie Jones will be with the Boks for one week — that has nothing to do with Rassie not going to the World Cup. More likely, WP wouldn’t release him.
24 Jul 2007, 22:10 pm
Lets hope Eddie can get our backline firing and Rassie can get the stormers firing we need to tap that large talent pool.
If Rassie can perform with a wider selection of talent then he will prove his worth for a future SA coach. He has to build depth out of the large local pool and managing an extended squad well. I would say a S14 final is now the bar.
I think its the logical tri win decision here Boks win WP wins and SA rugger wins!
24 Jul 2007, 22:14 pm
#5: Selfish? Dont come with that bullshit I can also make other provinces look guilty. Heyneke played Fourie Du Preez with a injury in the super 14 final.
That meant Fourie Du Preez was F***ked for the Boks for any game before the world cup….but why he was played in the Super 14 Final is totally understandable. WP need a miracle and thats very clear , so maybe that is why Rassie is gonna be starting now allready. Rassie is a great coach and I think a genius, BUT …. his tactics has not worked in the Super 14 and free state were the only SA team that could not win one game away from home ….. that could have eventually counted against him
24 Jul 2007, 23:02 pm
Erm, nowhere in this article does it mention any WP/Stormers interference. The meeting on Monday was between Rassie and SARU, effectively.
I know how we all love to slate WP because they’re the most successful Currie Cup side in history, but perhaps it’d be a good idea to read the facts before setting off on another misplaced tirade.
24 Jul 2007, 23:09 pm
cant blame Rassie or WP coz SARU would not formalise his involvement with a short contract.
But what a short sighted approach this is. A trip to the world cup would have been invaluable experience for Rassie seeing as he is destined to coach the boks in the future.
all you conspiracy theorists are a joke. the problem is you guys speculate and repeat opinions unti they become fact in your own little heads. crazy.
24 Jul 2007, 23:27 pm
Jeez the Stormers management (admin) really have no clue about nurturing at all. The quicker the go the better for WP.
Instead of allowing the guy two months to be part of the (winning) world cup squad, and pick up massive experience from Jake on how to run a tour, they insist in him staying and supervising pre-season conditioning (which any old donkey can do). These guys have the vision of a mole in a sandstorm.
24 Jul 2007, 23:43 pm
I don’t think that it has anything to do with Saru\Jake White as suggested by Vinnie…..get a job at keo.co.za mate cos you’re sensationalism skills are right up there with the best of them!
Bottom line,Rassie made a committment to WP and they have every right to ensure he prepares the Stormers for the Super 14.One would have hoped that they might have allowed him 2 months with the Boks with national interest at heart,not to mention the learning curve as Sjambok pointed out.
Instead they are being selfish and taking a hard line approach to benefit themselves.
I wouldn’t bet against JW phoning Rassie a few times during the RWC though.
By the way,Eddie Jones is with the Boks on a CONSULTANCY basis and is not replacing anyone as suggested – read the article china!
25 Jul 2007, 02:18 am
This is the same Rassie who couldn’t manage to coach the joint Currie Cup champion Cheetahs to anything better than 4th out of the 5 South African super-rugby franchises, right?
So, what’s the fuss about, then?
25 Jul 2007, 04:00 am
Tackler….still sporting that “Jason Eaton mullet” ha ha ha…..guess life in Wellington is similar to Germiston after all ha ha ha ha
25 Jul 2007, 04:21 am
“Business in the front; party at the back”, hey?
25 Jul 2007, 04:26 am
In good spirit Tackler,lol….ever wondered why David Hasselhoff is such a huge superstar in Germany.It must be that hairdo
25 Jul 2007, 05:46 am
DAmmit
25 Jul 2007, 06:23 am
If you come from Johannesburg, you’re a Joburger.
If you come from Cape Town, you’re a Capetonian.
If you come from Durban, you’re a Durbanite.
If you come from Germiston, are you a Germ?
And what if you’re from Kakamas?
25 Jul 2007, 07:45 am
There goes the World Cup for South Africa…
25 Jul 2007, 08:52 am
Don’t blame the Stormers, the final call probably lies with Rassie.
Rassie is overrated, he did not really perform at the Cheetahs, cashed in and left for the highest bidder.
25 Jul 2007, 08:58 am
A 4 year contract???
25 Jul 2007, 09:03 am
Charlie
Did you actually put your faith in the coach whose team managed to win 4 Super 14 games to be the difference in SA winning or losing the World Cup?
25 Jul 2007, 09:27 am
Reminds me of when Heyneke Meyer hinted that he wouldnt accept a post of assistant bok coach, he wanted the top job.
Where are his national interests?
25 Jul 2007, 09:48 am
I thought the run-up to the WC was too smooth…
And so it begins.
We wait with baited breath for Khompela to wade in – six gun’s firing…
25 Jul 2007, 09:53 am
Comment by Supa Die Bloubul : July 24, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Supa
Jy klink soos n suurgat.
It was Rassie who wanted his contract with WP to start on 1 August.
What should WP have done? Refused and said he must rather stay with the Boks (who he doesnt have a cotract with) while their team is struggling?
Talk about a stupid comment.
And and before i forget, Paul Delport is gonna be a LEGEND!!!
25 Jul 2007, 09:56 am
Comment #15 runningidiot
What a comment….Then they say there are no racist biggots on this site…
Viva Butana!!!Viva!!
25 Jul 2007, 10:18 am
This is an interesting development……….
Firstly, SA Rugby needed Rassie to be in France as he in all probability would be the coach at the next World Cup. So it would have been a great experience for him and good investment for SA Rugby.
Secondly, this issue about a contract with SA Rugby is balderdash…didn’t Rassie volunteer to coach FS free of charge in his first year? That doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be paid by SA Rugby which he is. So what’s the big deal. From his perspective, he’s enhancing his chances of being JW’s successor by being with the team and excelling as technical coach exactly as JW did in the 95 RWC. Short sigted Rassie.
Thirdly, Rassie leaves FS Rugby to take up the position at SA Rugby then dumps SA Rugby within 2 months for WP…Perhaps his real reason was to leave FS Rugby and he used SA Rugby as the escape.
In short, Rassie’s made a bad (in my view) career limiting move.
Nonetheless good luck Rassie.
25 Jul 2007, 12:06 pm
Couldn’t agree with you more darrons1……Cape Town is an awesome place to live but WP rugby is riddled with problems and they keep blaming everyone else!
With the team they have had on their books they should have been top half of the Super 14 for the last few years as well as being a force in the Currie Cup……..WP rugby is a graveyard of talent!
25 Jul 2007, 12:20 pm
If you guys read the Planetrugby article it seems that both Smit and Jake begged Rassie to stay and that Jake was hoping for a “Winwin” situation whereby Rassie would still be able to travel with the team. John said it would definitely have a negative effect on them if he wasnt at the WC.
I think Rassie has been a bit short sighted on this one. The experience he would have got from being at the world cup would have gone a long way in furthering his career as others have mentioned.
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