Banned Lima’s tournament over
24 Sep 2007
Brian Lima’s fifth World Cup ended in disgrace, with a three week suspension for a dangerous tackle.
Lima should have been cited for his attempt to take off Andre Pretorius’s head, but inexplicably he escaped any form of punishment.
On Saturday he connected Jonny Wilkinson and this got him penalised during the game and cited afterwards.
He appeared before a disciplinary on Monday and was banned for three weeks.
The RWC statement said:
“Following a RWC 2007 judicial hearing the Judicial Officer Professor Lorne Crerar upheld the citing complaint and confirmed that Samoan centre Brian Lima breached Law 10.4(e) and committed a dangerous tackle during the Samoa versus England match on Saturday, 22 September in Nantes.
“The Judicial Officer determined that the reasons for the Referee’s decision in awarding a penalty for the offence were wrong and could not accept the explanation of the player that there was no intention to commit a dangerous tackle.
“The tackle was inherently dangerous and the swinging right arm of Brian Lima connected with considerable force on the neck/throat of the England number 10 Jonny Wilkinson.
“The Judicial Officer accordingly determined it was a deliberate rather than reckless act. In categorising the seriousness of the offence, the Judicial Officer determined it was mid-range.
“The player is extremely remorseful, has never been sent off or cited before, is of exemplary character and has outstanding references as to his character and role model attributes.
“The Judicial Officer accordingly discounted the mid-range entry point of six weeks suspension to three weeks. In respect of the Tournament this means that the player will miss the next match against the USA with a two week suspension thereafter. The player has 48 hours in which to appeal the decision.”
43 Comments
24 Sep 2007, 18:35 pm
24 Sep 2007, 18:36 pm
Yeah right, when it’s against a bok player it’s acceptable, but against royal game like JW, then he’s punished.
Good riddance to Lima, if he had been banned like he should have been for the deliberately recless act against AP then this would not have happened.
24 Sep 2007, 18:52 pm
If there was any consistancy then he should have gotten off scott free from this. The Judiciary Commitee is a farce. He should have been cited against SA. But let one of our players just think of foul play then its imediately – “Hoek toe Jannie!”
24 Sep 2007, 19:16 pm
Now , there we go, South Africans are fair game but you can’t do it to anyone else! Lima should have been banned way back, Perhaps the judiciary commitee stands in the dock with Lima insofar as they get it screwed up on a regular basis – to the extent that they are accomplices in this ongoing farce!.
24 Sep 2007, 19:18 pm
Lima deserves a massive ban- he is guilty of commiting the worst piece of foul play in this competition.. Problem is, the Wilko tackle wasn’t it.
24 Sep 2007, 19:21 pm
One wonders what enticements were offered and by whom such enticements were offered to pursuade them to make the belated and unjust complaints against Steyn. We all know whose style of duplicity fits the profile.
24 Sep 2007, 19:25 pm
It’s the Arstralians mate……….Guaranteed….
24 Sep 2007, 19:29 pm
Lima – Brutal Vaka.
24 Sep 2007, 19:29 pm
But Boks don’t cry, hence no citing.
24 Sep 2007, 19:33 pm
Nou sal iemand asseblief aan my beduie waar daai Ozzie skaapwagter die idee gekry het om Scalla vir 4weke te skors, en Lima kry eers f@khol, en toe na sy 2de probeerslag slegs 3weke??? Ons rugbybase is rugraatloos. Dit is hulle werk om bietjie die IRB ouens aantevat oor hul houding tenoor SA rugby. Ek kry die idee die ouens van die IRB het geen respek vir ons rugby leiers nie omdat hulle weet dat meeste van die ouens kwota aanstellings is. Hoekom is daar nie meer oud rugbyspelers betroke by SARVU nie?
24 Sep 2007, 19:34 pm
Why wasn’t he cited for the AP tackle? But this time, he tackled England’s darling – hence the citing.
24 Sep 2007, 20:34 pm
6 & 7
Rog and ruck
yeah I bet the Aussies offered them a gold watch – that is the traditional form of bribery in rugby, is it not?
24 Sep 2007, 20:35 pm
High tackle by Zidane on Johnny?
24 Sep 2007, 22:25 pm
11
I disagree. He hit Pretorious on the shoulder and there was a clash of heads. He caught Wilkinson on the head in the first tackle and round the throat in the second.
24 Sep 2007, 23:38 pm
Big
Hit you are on crack!! He charged in head high and head first. And MASSIVELY LATE. If ever there was clear intention to maim and decapitate it was Lima’s tackle on AP!
The IRB stinks, no, positively REEKS of corruption.
A question: If there is no video evidence at all of Steyn biting – how can the citing commisisoner even have basis for a citing? Is he not supposed to review the video evidence first and then make a call on that basis? If he is just going on hearsay (because a Tongan with vested interests complained) that is PISS POOR legal basis.
24 Sep 2007, 23:39 pm
I guess when Lima hits Wilkenson high, he gets banned. When he hits Pretorius its ok.
But if you bite a pacific Islanders finger “maybe”, you get cited.
Seems to me this disciplinary commitee clearly does not want the boks to win.
The anti bok approach is so blatant, its embartresing.
24 Sep 2007, 23:40 pm
ricane
Perhaps “glass house” is the appropriate term for the AB’s mate, because you guys are just untouchable by any kind of rugby jury right now. Your precious poster boys’ brand is so valuable to the IRB, they are determined to get a win for them.
25 Sep 2007, 00:11 am
ye right “‘The player is extremely remorseful, has never been sent off or cited before, is of exemplary character and has outstanding references as to his character and role model attributes.”" ….. with a nick like “The Chiropractor”
25 Sep 2007, 00:13 am
17 sJam
The AB’s have nothing to do with any of this, so I dunno what you are on about – we are on the hard side of the draw remember.
We didn’t play in or against any of the teams involved in any of the citings.
have our boys done anything that could possibly have drawn a citing? (unlike the Aussies who have been lucky).
One easy way to be untouched by a jury is to avoid commiting professional fouls like biting people and attempting to decapitate them in midair…stick to playing rugby and you’ll possibly not go home early.
I want to see the Boks in the final, and I’d like to see your best players in that game.
25 Sep 2007, 00:20 am
perhaps the hardest tackler I have seen on a rugby field(well, him and Uli)
will be rermembered for all the right reasons
by his people(and Hougie )
25 Sep 2007, 00:24 am
you reap what you sow!! Farewell Brain, the chiropractor! Take an early shower and go back home where you belong
25 Sep 2007, 00:38 am
Greatest,wat van joggie jansen se tackle op daai all black jarre terug?
25 Sep 2007, 00:43 am
He lived by the sword; he died by the sword.
25 Sep 2007, 00:45 am
#22 true
Uli was the best bok tackler I have seen..pulled
off many try saving tacklers in his career.
25 Sep 2007, 00:46 am
#23 well put Tackler
25 Sep 2007, 01:05 am
Honiball was the best Bok tackler. He was simply devastating.
As for Lima-good riddance. He should have been cited for his tackle on AP.
25 Sep 2007, 01:23 am
17
Its true. The ABs escape everything. The powers that be want them to win.
25 Sep 2007, 01:25 am
26
De Wet Barry and Butch James are also all time great Bok tacklers.
25 Sep 2007, 02:35 am
James was armless.
25 Sep 2007, 02:46 am
IRB has always been so one-eyed, whats new?
Ref for SA-Tonga game should go back to the legal profession where he came from and where he is better suited. He can dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s and still see nothing. He was pathetic, and that’s a compliment.
IMHO, official-dome is killing the game. To many refs have a god-inferiority complex.
25 Sep 2007, 02:51 am
IRB is elected by all the rugby nations. So which one eye is their only seeing eye, then? And has “always” been?
25 Sep 2007, 03:05 am
The Lidless Eye see’s all,
nothing may you conceal.
25 Sep 2007, 08:00 am
cane what about Hayaman’s punch against the Italians – I suppose that was written off as just Hayman trying to stop the Italian’s mascara going in his eye? Untouchable brother, and you know it. You have been for years.
25 Sep 2007, 08:01 am
If Schalk had pulled a punch out, that would have been him for the RWC. Hell they would probably have tarred and feathered him for good measure.
25 Sep 2007, 10:08 am
So little Johnny gets a bump and the world goes Ooooooh cite him. Bollocks!
25 Sep 2007, 10:30 am
We must just make sure that we give the IRB absolutely no chance of citings. By this, we should “walk-away” from situations and let the opponents deal with the issues. I know that we are “harre-gat” and don’t step back, but sometimes you need to. I hope that this gets drilled into our players by the team management.
25 Sep 2007, 10:53 am
About time. Lima is a THUG. He should have been banned from rugby 8 years ago!!!
There are quite a few other candidates who shouldn’t be allowed to playas well. Lima is a crying disgrace to rugby.
25 Sep 2007, 11:03 am
“The player is extremely remorseful, has never been sent off or cited before, is of exemplary character and has outstanding references as to his character and role model attributes.”
If ever there was one single piece of evidence to prove what a farce the IRB citing procedure is, it’s this quote. Lima and exemplary character and role model? And Rashied Staggie is probably a Sunday school teacher.
25 Sep 2007, 12:48 pm
If I am not mistaken, Lima almost destroyed Andre Jouberts world cup in 1995! Correct me if I am wrong, if not, then his record speaks for itself. Any tackle on the shoulder line is considered dangerous and any attempted tackle, by this I mean without using arms, is dangerous and illegal and merits according to the laws, immediate red card!
25 Sep 2007, 13:19 pm
What about Pieter Mulder (before he injured his neck). In his younger days he was by far the best and most devastating defender I have seen.
25 Sep 2007, 13:22 pm
Japie wasn’t bad either allthough he became somewhat thugish in the end.
25 Sep 2007, 17:42 pm
Tight 5 – comment # 36
Spot on, Buddy – they do have to learn to walk away else they are gonna get screwed. Very much like hockey (ice variety), it’s always the retaliator that gets caught – in this case it’s always the Bok that seems to get it.
26 Sep 2007, 00:37 am
Tight 5
i think it was mike umaga not brian .
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