Toulon’s locked on to Vic
13 Feb 2008
Victor Matfield’s popularity in Toulon makes his status in Pretoria look silly. And Bakkies Botha is not far behind.
To say Matfield is worshipped in the quiet French city would be an understatement. Matfield is a religion – one that has attracted thousands of disciples in the two months he’s been in Toulon.
On Tuesday morning about 50 Toulon supporters gathered at the club’s training ground (around 5km from their home ground, Stade Mayol) to watch their deity practice alongside legends like George Gregan, Andrew Merhtens, Anton Oliver and head coach, Tana Umaga. By the afternoon session that number had swelled to close on to 200 (I’m told that the captain’s run on Friday’s attracts around 1 000 spectators), all discussing one thing – the impact Matfield has made since his arrival.
Matfield took just two minutes into his debut to capture the hearts of the Toulon faithful, stealing a lineout in his 22 then proving to be a secure target for Oliver to aim at. Five minutes later he was dragged down 30cm from the tryline.
“If he had scored from that try the stadium would have cracked in half because of the noise the fans would have made,†Patrick Fornet, president of the Toulon supporters club told keo.co.za.
“Matfield has been an absolute star for us. Here in Toulon, Matfield is God.â€
But even “God†isn’t resting on his laurels. Matfield’s work ethic in the practice sessions was outstanding, and his conditioning is not in question. He consistently beat the loose forwards in 40m sprints and as always was at the head of the pack in repeat 80m brisk runs. His team-mates report that his gym work is brilliant.
Matfield looks at home in this environment, and has taken to his new-found fame with consummate ease. He gladly indulges those fans who wait for hours just to get close to him after practice, signing autographs and posing for photographs. Afterwards the fans always have the same question for him: “When is Bakkies coming?â€
A fortnight ago keo.co.za reported that Toulon had expressed an interest in signing Matfield’s Springbok blood brother. The Bulls said then that they were reluctant to release him but acknowledged that Toulon, backed by billionaire president Mourad Boudjellal, had the financial resources to buy out his contract (with four years to run, Toulon will have to pay around R10 million to lure Botha to the south of France).
The Bulls on Monday said they would refuse to release Botha, but a source close to Toulon has told keo.co.za that Botha has already signed a pre-contract. An intent to join if you like.
Matfield, who spoke to Botha on Tuesday about the rumours that he’ll join, was reluctant to offer details of their conversation, saying: “ I never called Bakkies to convince him to come here. He will make the decision after careful consideration and it’s not my place to pressure him into a decision.â€
Botha is sure to be offered a generous salary. Matfield is reported to be on multi-million rand deal and Botha is sure to be appraised similarly.
The talk about Botha is incessant. “He is a warrior, the type of player we love here at Toulon,†Fornet said.
“When we see a player like him, it’s like he was born to play here. When he comes, it’ll be a big piece in the puzzle in place. The important thing then is that we have him and Matfield playing in the same team, not just one of them.â€
It is yet uncertain whether Matfield will return to the Bulls in mid-March. His contract has a escape clause that will allow him to leave should he choose to do so. At present he is uncertain about what to do, but admits to missing the hype in the build-up to the Super 14, especially since the Bulls take on an old foe this weekend.
“Bulls versus Stormers are the kinds of games I live for,†he said. “To miss it is killing me but I guess that’s the trade off you make when signing for a European club.
“The Stormers will probably feel it’s their best chance to beat us … [he pauses]… when I say “us†it shows that I’m still a Bulls boy at heart. Anyway, they’ll feel they are in with a chance, especially since they’re at home. Look out for [former Bulls lock] Adriaan Fondse. He’s a class act and will have something to prove. But the Bulls have a really good squad and I’m sure they’ll do well.
“I’ve got Kudu Club, though, so I’ll get to watch it. I wouldn’t miss it for anything in the world.â€
By Ryan Vrede in Toulon, France
108 Comments
13 Feb 2008, 10:37 am
Will Victor also be posing for the Deiux de Stade calendar this year? Are he and Bakkies *** ICONS 2?
13 Feb 2008, 10:42 am
Rather sickening, actually.
This is destroying South African domestic rugby.Something must be done.
The French supporters are CERTAINLY not entitled to watch our best players every weekend while we have to be satisfied with the leftovers back in SA.
It is fundamentally WRONG.
13 Feb 2008, 10:43 am
Hello Taci….mwa mwa
13 Feb 2008, 10:43 am
hah, even victor gets shafted by sky’s kak super 14 coverage. good old kuduclub, saved me too when i lived in hol-land
13 Feb 2008, 10:51 am
good morning everyone
i know this is not a sharks thread but because keo is always late here is some news for those that care
**** Muir’s Sharks team named to play the Western Force at The Absa Stadium Durban on Friday evening shows few surprises as they look to get the season off to a good start.
After two preseason warm-up games, the last a week ago against the Lions, Muir has pretty much got an idea of the depth of his squad, and the lineup for Friday night’s 7.10pm Vodacom Super 14 match has a familiar feel about it.
Unfortunately there is an injury cloud hanging over Frederic Michalak, and he has been bracketed in with Francois Steyn at flyhalf. Should his calf muscle niggle not recover, Steyn will take his place, and Stefan Terblanche will then play at fullback.
On the bench, one of Jean Deysel or Albert van den Berg will wear the number 19 jersey depending on the former’s recovery – also a minor niggle.
In the front row, Beast Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis and BJ Botha provide both stability as well as an exciting element in open play. Johann Muller will lead the side, with Johan Ackermann partnering him at lock. As to be expected, the loose-forward trio is made up of three players who compliment each other’s strengths: Jacques Botes, AJ Venter and Ryan Kankowski.
Ruan Pienaar and Frederic Michalak are the anticipated halfback pairing with JP Pietersen and Henno Mentz on the wings, Bradley Barritt and Waylon Murray partnering in the midfield and Francois Steyn wearing the fullback jersey.
The Sharks proved in both 2001 and 2007 that getting the season off to a winning start, and then sustaining that momentum stood them in good stead for a finish on or near the top of the log.
While the exploits of the Crusaders have shown that a team can start slowly and build up momentum, there is no doubt that, like the Force, the Sharks will look to get the season off to a winning start.
Sharks Starting XV
15. Francois Steyn / Stefan Terblanche
14. Henno Mentz
13 Waylon Murray
12. Bradley Barritt
11. JP Pietersen
10. Frederic Michalak / Francois Steyn
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. AJ Venter
6. Jacques Botes
5. Johann Muller (Capt)
4. Johan Ackermann
3. BJ Botha
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Beast Mtawarira
Reserves:
16. Craig Burden
17. Kees Lensing
18. Jannie du Plessis
19. Jean Deysel / Albert van den Berg
20. Rory Kockott
21. Adrian Jacobs
22. Stefan Terblanche.
A final squad will be announced once the fitness or otherwise for the match has been finalised.
13 Feb 2008, 10:52 am
OK Ryan, its S14 time now. Who da fukc cares bout what Vic is doing or saying.
Enough please!
13 Feb 2008, 10:54 am
That’s just about enough of Big Vic for 2 days.
Let’s discuss the Sharks team
13 Feb 2008, 10:54 am
5 – That really is a formidable looking team. To have Jannie and Kees on the bench says something about your depth.
13 Feb 2008, 10:54 am
isidigi thats why i posted some news on the sharks team for friday night
13 Feb 2008, 10:54 am
#7 – Those who have given him *** icon status are interested……
13 Feb 2008, 10:55 am
Did Keo send Ryan to France, or is he there anyway for his gap year?
13 Feb 2008, 10:56 am
Sharks-lover
Look again, you’re sure its an injury cloud dangling over Freddie?
13 Feb 2008, 10:57 am
even the tongan is not getting a place
he is going to have to lift his standard to get into that team
13 Feb 2008, 10:58 am
Hiya Katman. Remember to let me know about Saturday. I tried to get a ticket for Bod…..for love, money or electricity..there is nothing available.
13 Feb 2008, 10:58 am
isidigi this article is fresh off the sharks blog
13 Feb 2008, 11:01 am
Go Bakkies go , wow and i tought rugby was big in South Africa
13 Feb 2008, 11:02 am
Lets talk about the STORMERS……
Goodbye to soft-touch Stormers
- Wednesday, February 13, 2008
The Vodacom Stormers will be hoping to use Saturday’s opening Super 14 fixture against the Vodacom Bulls as the first step towards erasing their long-held reputation for being a team of softies.
New coach Rassie Erasmus, after being in the enemy camp plotting against the Stormers for so long, has a good understanding of the Cape team’s weaknesses as perceived from outside. And apart from bring some much needed structure to the Stormers’ onfield approach, he will also be looking to them to toughen up.
Erasmus denies that it was him who told the story, but there is one doing the rounds that has it that when he was at the Cheetahs preparing for a match against the Stormers or Western Province, he put the Stormers/WP team list up on the board and asked his players to identify the really hard opposition players that needed to be taken special care of.
The legend has it that apart from the irrepressible Schalk Burger, the Cheetahs were unable to put too many other identifying marks on the Stormers/WP team-sheet.
“I don’t know who told you that, I know it definitely wasn’t me,†laughed Erasmus when it was put to him. “But yes, obviously there is an impression in the rest of the country that the Stormers are best when the game is open and wide and becomes more like a sevens contest, and that they are not so good when it is tight and the battle is of a physical nature.â€
Erasmus has been working on changing that, and he hopes that the addition of two tight forward imports in the form of Brian Mujati (ex-Lions) and Adriaan Fondse (ex-Bulls) will make a massive difference to the Stormers approach. However, he also says he has been pleasantly surprised by the level of physicality that he has encountered from the Stormers players since he has been working with them in the build-up to this Super 14.
“It may be an advantage to have been in the enemy camp before because I do have a good idea of how the opposition perceive the Stormers, but then I don’t think the previous coaches were unaware of what the biggest Stormers weakness was either,†said Erasmus.
“It is one thing knowing what the weakness is, and another thing rectifying it. That the Stormers players are soft may to some extent have been the perception I arrived with, but it is not something I have noticed in training. It is too easy to form a perception and then accept it as fact. Maybe the problem has been that sometimes the Stormers have just not placed enough consistent focus on this aspect.
“It is all a question of attitude. I know from my own experiences as a player you would often have a guy that everyone thought was soft, but then if the coach or the players around him said the right thing it would spark him and he would suddenly transform into the meanest bloke around who was not afraid of anything and who would not back down from anyone.â€
Erasmus might be onto something here. Last season the Sharks were surprised by the WP physicality in a Currie Cup match at Newlands, but then watched in shock the following week as they saw the same team almost run away from the Blue Bulls at Loftus.
The draw Erasmus’s team has been handed for the new season will demand that they get up consistently and a lot of questions are set to be answered in the first fortnight.
“Everyone is saying the Bulls game is incredibly important, which it is, but that game does not stand on its own. The next week we go to Durban to play the Sharks and then we come back to Newlands to play the Crusaders. Not only are those teams all extremely physical, but they were also the number one, two and three finishers from last season.
“In South African rugby teams and individuals get tagged too easily. Something happens, someone speaks about it, and then the whole country believes it. If we can front up in all of those first three games then we will know that this physicality thing is not a problem and we have beaten it.
“At the moment it is hard for me to say for sure whether the perceived weakness remains there or not as I have yet to coach these guys in a big game. But we will know soon because you cannot ask for a more physical start.â€
I AM A FECKIN STORMER….
13 Feb 2008, 11:02 am
Pulling your leg sharkman.
Like I said before, most S14 coaches i thing have a loosing cross behind their Sharks encounter in their pre-season planning.
13 Feb 2008, 11:02 am
Freddy injured a calf muscle so its touch and go
time will tell , and there is still a couple of days to go.
On the other hand i feel steyn might be a awesome sight at flyhalf
he didnt play against the lions but when steyn came on against the cheetahs in the warm up game he changed the whole game to get the sharks that draw
so lets see , all i know is the sharks have huge depth
13 Feb 2008, 11:03 am
Sure, ruck. Will let you know. I also failed in my quest to secure a ticket for Bod. I’m hoping that one of my party cancels.
13 Feb 2008, 11:04 am
I hope Adriaan Fondse flattens JP Nel, if he receives the opportunity…(Up close he is a big strong boy…young Adriaan…)
13 Feb 2008, 11:04 am
lol isidigi its cool bro
13 Feb 2008, 11:08 am
Quotes:
The talk about Botha is incessant. “He is a warrior, the type of player we love here at Toulon,†Fornet said.
“When we see a player like him, it’s like he was born to play here. When he comes, it’ll be a big piece in the puzzle in place. ”
What the hell!!? You lot are in the damned 2nd division! That’s like Sheffield Wednesday saying “Wayne Rooney was born to play for us!” The French are PATHETIC! Screw the french! At least the Sharks got their own back. Even the French players want to play in REAL rugby games. Not that **** up North. Oh it sickens me.
13 Feb 2008, 11:09 am
Ruck
You’re forgetting our man Bolla. The sight of the newly improved beefed up stronger and faster version will have JP shitting his pants.
Bolla don’t flatten his opponents, he buries them under the turf!!
13 Feb 2008, 11:10 am
#17 Ruck,
I know you’re a fairly regular blogger at Keo, but truly, this has turned to a Sharks discussion…
13 Feb 2008, 11:11 am
#24 – Isi, if after 78 minutes no Stormer has had the opportunity to flatten JP, I swear I will invade the field and do the feckin job myself…..I give a **** for the repurcussions.
13 Feb 2008, 11:11 am
#25 – Who are the Sharks?
13 Feb 2008, 11:13 am
Sharks Starting XV
15. Francois Steyn / Stefan Terblanche
14. Henno Mentz
13 Waylon Murray
12. Bradley Barritt
11. JP Pietersen
10. Frederic Michalak / Francois Steyn
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. AJ Venter
6. Jacques Botes
5. Johann Muller (Capt)
4. Johan Ackermann
3. BJ Botha
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Beast Mtawarira
Beside Beast (love ya man), AJ, Frederic (Frenchie) and Henno, this could be a Springbok team. The Sharks are the new Bulls. No wait, what a lame comparison!!
13 Feb 2008, 11:14 am
Ms Ruck
Perhaps he means the “Shawks” (phonetically speaking) ?
13 Feb 2008, 11:15 am
Haha Ruck. That’s like asking “Who are Toulon?” Oh wait… Who ARE Toulon????
13 Feb 2008, 11:15 am
Hey Ryan
You should ask Anton Oliver what it feels like to have something to throw at… must be something new for him to be winning so much of his own lineout ball…
13 Feb 2008, 11:19 am
Sure Vix will be along in the next couple of days but I just got an email to say little Vixene (will that suffice as a female Vix?) was born a little while ago, everything went fine and mom and baby are doing well…doctors are still trying to wake up Vix after he passed out at the sight of a little blood!
Geluk boet en sterkte met die min slaap!
13 Feb 2008, 11:20 am
#28 – i agree with you. Your forward pack looks awesome on paper. I have the Sharks to be top SA team. I am too scared to pick em to win the comp – cos we all know the Sharks don’t win finals.
BUT: this is a very good team indeed. Kankowski has to watch his discipline. And you better hope Michalak and Steyn don’t both implode in the same games…..(a rotation policy would be better) They are so talented, yet inclined to do such bizarre things.
I think Waylon is going to have a great season 2.
Do not take the Perth quokka throwing jaw breaking trash lightly….The Force will run yr boys.
OK – Sharks discussed..BACK TO THE STORMERS?
13 Feb 2008, 11:21 am
Evening koos
You still in the office
13 Feb 2008, 11:22 am
27 – perenial chokers
13 Feb 2008, 11:22 am
lol, sounds lekker for Victor. nice little town.
Great team, some real legends like Grergan and Umaga too.
13 Feb 2008, 11:22 am
I don’t mind where our Boks are playing. The only thing that does worry me slightly is the standards they play. I seriously doubt that Matfield must perform at the same level at Toulon every week as he would do at the S14. I hope he doesn’t sit back & enjoy the “easy” living of earning da bucks but fading away from international rugby because of playing below-par club/provincial rugby. This is exactly what happend to Jaco vdW when he played for NEC in Japan. Then when he came back to SA it was too late to get back to S14/international level.
13 Feb 2008, 11:22 am
who is the stormers???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? lol
13 Feb 2008, 11:22 am
CONGRATS TO CUZZY….
13 Feb 2008, 11:24 am
Ruck
What has Cuz done ?
13 Feb 2008, 11:25 am
#38 – We are the team who has won 2 Currie Cups between 1996 and now…….(Actually had a trophy in the cabinet)
13 Feb 2008, 11:26 am
Princess, Cuzzy has become a daddy for the first time. Little girl.
13 Feb 2008, 11:26 am
Hi Guys, Speaking of S14 any ideas of a good fantasy league?
13 Feb 2008, 11:29 am
Ruck
See, that is how you know there is a God & she is woman. She gives the wild boys daughters to worry about
I highly reccomend using a Spa as a hiding place … Primped & Folder within an inch of my life then finished with a 30 minute scalp massage
13 Feb 2008, 11:33 am
#44 – LMFAO. Hell, that actually sounds pretty good. The only massage I’m getting to day is those of the mispelt message type…
13 Feb 2008, 11:36 am
Is this Toulon mob top of their league? Will they be promoted next season?
13 Feb 2008, 11:36 am
Ruck
It was FABULOUS … now organising dinner out at a fabby new place that has things like Gorgonzola & Pear Bruschetta on the menu in addition to gorgeous wines by the glass !
Yes, an all round tough day …. ssiigghh
13 Feb 2008, 11:38 am
Die stormers gaan hierdie jaar herleef dis verseker. Dink die Bulls supporters is bietjie bekommerd hierdie jaar. Maar die team om dop te hou is die Sharks. Gaan moeilik wees om hulle te klop. Dis die span wat die beste op vorm is volgens my. Stormers gaan volgende jaar stem dik maak maar hierdie jaar gaan hulle defnitief verbeter op die vorige paar jare.
13 Feb 2008, 11:39 am
Ruckles
Meeting Cuzzy a bit later for a couple of beers. We’ll tjorts the first cold one on you!!!
13 Feb 2008, 11:42 am
Yes, even as a Sharks fan I am too cautious to make great predictions about chokers.
The Stormers on the other hand… well, what can a GREAT coach do with an average team? Let’s be honest here? Some stars in Grant at flyhalf, Bolla at scrummie, De Wet Barry, Jean De Villiers and of course Schalk the Hulk. But can the rest of the forwards provide a platform to build on?
13 Feb 2008, 11:42 am
To ruck#17 you are indeed a fecking stormer but keep that to yourself as it sounds like you have a mental health issue.I am sure there must be a therapist you can talk to about your problem ,and i hope they find a cure for you.I hear there are some good therapists in pretoria the home of the super14 cup but then again maybe you are incureable.MY BLOED IS BLOU.
13 Feb 2008, 11:48 am
Do the muppits have a virtual league this S14? If so what and where.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
13 Feb 2008, 11:48 am
#51 I hope they can find a cure for that awful disease you have! Blue blood? Wow! Not enough oxygen I guess…
13 Feb 2008, 11:49 am
#1 Ruck – that is the funniest thing I have read in a long while.
I nearly burst
13 Feb 2008, 11:50 am
13 Sharks lover
The Tongan is in Japan and is only expected here in March!
13 Feb 2008, 11:51 am
52.
Mistral they have a muppet league on testrugby dot com
13 Feb 2008, 11:56 am
Couzy my ou maat baie geluk aan julle drietjies!!!
Maar smaak my jy sukkel met die swys ding, brand net gate!!
13 Feb 2008, 11:59 am
Cant wait to see the sharks klap the stormers and bulls…should be fun to read the comments from the fans then ^^
13 Feb 2008, 12:02 pm
Tacitus
When the overseas announcements started happening last year the 1st few came out of the Sharks and other non-Bulls camps. (I have a long memory)
You treated the news with some glee and said that it was the Engelse souties (I paraphrase) ducking and no Afrikaans speaking Bull would desert.
Of course a week later Gary Botha signed and rumours of Matfield broke.
Therefore your views appear to be inconsistent?
Or is it only fundamentally wrong for Bulls to leave? Strange fundamentals.
I agree something needs to be done but we cannot do it alone.
Our only hope is the IRB capping the number of foreign players in a side.
That is very tricky in Europe because Europeans have freedom to work anywhere in Europe.
Cheers
13 Feb 2008, 12:03 pm
Dagse Mense! What with all this talk about the super 14 starting this weekend, we`re forgetting the real issue here, the Sports Illustrated Fantasy League!!! My team (Menace to Sobriety)will never fall down first or spill their drinks. Aside from that, STORMERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!!!!
13 Feb 2008, 12:05 pm
#59 Eddie Jones,
Chill out. The Sharks will mostly choke. Then the Blou Bloeds and the Rucks will come out in force! Not Western…
13 Feb 2008, 12:06 pm
ruck katman, no luck here either, bod might have to watch from the pub…
if toulon get promoted into the first division, do they form part of the heinekin cup, or how does it work?
13 Feb 2008, 12:10 pm
Ms Ruck
Bertie has a ticket – Bod should be kinder to him
13 Feb 2008, 12:10 pm
What is it with you guys and Victor!!!!!!!!!!! He is playing for a 2nd division team
13 Feb 2008, 12:13 pm
Buck, did you actually drop a hint with your wife to sacrifice her ticket?
13 Feb 2008, 12:14 pm
13 Feb 2008, 12:15 pm
If Toulon get promoted to the first division, will they then be restricted to two (?) foreign players in their squad / match 22?
13 Feb 2008, 12:16 pm
64 – Just like he always has.
13 Feb 2008, 12:18 pm
#68 katman
If they do they’ll be in the kak because the whole team’s foreign
13 Feb 2008, 12:19 pm
#69 If Victor was always playing for a second div team what division you recon the lions are in?
13 Feb 2008, 12:21 pm
Lions are bubbling under. Next big thing. Watch this space.
13 Feb 2008, 12:22 pm
lol allesisblou
13 Feb 2008, 12:23 pm
72 Next best thing since the stormers – lol
13 Feb 2008, 12:23 pm
from the warmup match vs the sharks, i’d say the lions are right up there with the mighty elephants!
13 Feb 2008, 12:25 pm
lmoa
13 Feb 2008, 12:25 pm
*lmao
13 Feb 2008, 12:27 pm
#74
mighty
hahahahahahaha
Nothing mighty about that bunch of clowns
13 Feb 2008, 12:28 pm
75 – Lag my ‘ôl af?
13 Feb 2008, 12:32 pm
79 s̻ maar so Рdis eintlik lmga
13 Feb 2008, 12:32 pm
Testrugby . com
Is a good virtual rugga site, get into trouble with my girlfriend cos I get so involved in it….
13 Feb 2008, 12:32 pm
katman
serious question. whats the breakdown f wins/losses in superrugby games between the sharks and lions/cats? i have no idea and wikipietman and wptid are nowhere at the mo.
13 Feb 2008, 12:32 pm
Keo and co
Great articles, really beats the “rent-a-quote” rubbish that we have had to deal with
Tacitus
Soon Supersport will broadcast Top 14 games from France then you can put your Ge Korsten and Steve Hofmeyer CD’s on watch the best of the best play. As this is only the start. The total package is looking better every year and old Vic can even watch Kudu Club beacuse he has electricity
13 Feb 2008, 12:35 pm
81 – Don’t know, Rangerman. All I know is they are kak scared of us.
13 Feb 2008, 12:37 pm
lol katman!
i only ask because my swaer is getting a little jumpy at the moment. he is staying in durbs and seems a little bleak at the moment.
13 Feb 2008, 12:37 pm
Katman, look at this:
Does that look familiar to you? Maybe an E pill? Coz you’re dillusional mate!
13 Feb 2008, 12:40 pm
Probably just the side effects of a potent vindaloo, Rangerman. I’d tell your swaer to take the sport section to the john for a good half hour and then sleep it off.
13 Feb 2008, 12:43 pm
alles is blou kom mandag!
13 Feb 2008, 12:43 pm
Ditto, Green Machine: :-0
(yours was a suppository)
13 Feb 2008, 12:43 pm
Fark, that didn’t work.
13 Feb 2008, 12:44 pm
katman – i did, she wouldn’t budge…
13 Feb 2008, 12:46 pm
Haaalllooo Almal,
Wil net laat weet dat als goed gegaan het met mammie en die babatjie.
Baie dankie vir almal se wense en voorspoed, ons het dit na aan ons harte gesit!!!!!!
GO BULLS!!!!!!
13 Feb 2008, 12:46 pm
Sal hier wees maandag
13 Feb 2008, 12:53 pm
Mirag allesisblou!!!
Kan nie wag dat die S14 begin die swaer…
13 Feb 2008, 12:56 pm
hey cuz!!!!!
are congrats in order?
13 Feb 2008, 13:00 pm
oops! sorry cuz, i see your post above now.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Feb 2008, 13:00 pm
*SIGH*
13 Feb 2008, 13:13 pm
congrats cuzz, is it a boy or a girl?
13 Feb 2008, 13:15 pm
Cuzzy
To put ‘hostilities’ aside for now.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
There is nothing more exhilerating than being a Dad for the first time.
well done…you will enjoy regardless of the late nights.
13 Feb 2008, 13:17 pm
90 – Buck, risky move there. Careful.
13 Feb 2008, 13:47 pm
Those frenchies have got big bucks.
This doesn’t bode well for our game. If these okes can buy out a contract they can pretty much suck our teams dry.
And Toulon is second div. by the way.
HKGK.
13 Feb 2008, 13:47 pm
Maybe all those supporters came to watch Gregan and Merhtens and not Vic – Aus websites says the same thing just changing the name of the guy they came to watch…
13 Feb 2008, 13:51 pm
All those smaller French clubs worship their players like Gods
13 Feb 2008, 13:51 pm
Its obviously the same with the Bulls too,look how Tacitus worships Pierre Spies.
13 Feb 2008, 14:08 pm
#103 – Ok, so does that make Pierre Spies a *** icon now? I’m gettin confused about when a player can actually be called *** ICON…..
13 Feb 2008, 14:51 pm
““Bulls versus Stormers are the kinds of games I live for,â€
I know what you mean Vic, my father told me when I was young, it was more important then when the Springboks play the ABs!!
13 Feb 2008, 16:11 pm
Does someone know how Toulon is doing in the league? They are playing second division so in theory they should be cleaning up with all their big names??
13 Feb 2008, 16:40 pm
Sharks by 10 against the Force.
13 Feb 2008, 16:41 pm
geluk met die eersteling cuzzy.
alles wat mooi is vir julle drie.
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