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	<title>Comments on: Aussies want laws changed</title>
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	<description>An independent look at South African rugby</description>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-790747</link>
		<dc:creator>SodaJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly John O&#039;Neill is about a million light years ahead of the guys that administrate rugby in South Africa. I wish we had someone that thought about the game more than the next free glass of KWV Brandy in a private box, or the speed limit from Sprinbok to Kimberly. 

Some of the laws are good, and open up the game. Those that lose the character of rugby union in terms of forward play - should be looked at again. 

We need Australia to be strong again. Those that are interested in developing a global game would agree with that. Or else we can just have the Currie Cup and the old N Vs S games. 

And if we think we&#039;re going to beat them easily in the Tri-Nations we might be in for another rude awakening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly John O&#8217;Neill is about a million light years ahead of the guys that administrate rugby in South Africa. I wish we had someone that thought about the game more than the next free glass of KWV Brandy in a private box, or the speed limit from Sprinbok to Kimberly. </p>
<p>Some of the laws are good, and open up the game. Those that lose the character of rugby union in terms of forward play &#8211; should be looked at again. </p>
<p>We need Australia to be strong again. Those that are interested in developing a global game would agree with that. Or else we can just have the Currie Cup and the old N Vs S games. </p>
<p>And if we think we&#8217;re going to beat them easily in the Tri-Nations we might be in for another rude awakening.</p>
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		<title>By: superba</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-790494</link>
		<dc:creator>superba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#20. Wallabie - wrt that comment it would be better not to open up the debate about the aboriginal people. Some of us know about what goes on in the NT , the intervention and the reasons for it.It is a stain on the Australian nation. Drop it!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20. Wallabie &#8211; wrt that comment it would be better not to open up the debate about the aboriginal people. Some of us know about what goes on in the NT , the intervention and the reasons for it.It is a stain on the Australian nation. Drop it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: superba</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-790485</link>
		<dc:creator>superba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#7. If Aust rugby is struggling against league and  afl then that is an Australian problem which reqiures an Australian solution.Hardly surprising that your gates are down when last year you dished up such crap in the S14. If you improved the quality of your performances then the crowds will return.Play crap  rugby even with ELVs and you will still go broke.Don&#039;t expect world rugby to come running to help you guys - sort it out yourselves.Several years ago AFL clinics were held in South Africa and didn&#039;t exactly make an impact - especially having to compete with soccer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7. If Aust rugby is struggling against league and  afl then that is an Australian problem which reqiures an Australian solution.Hardly surprising that your gates are down when last year you dished up such <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> in the S14. If you improved the quality of your performances then the crowds will return.Play <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>  rugby even with ELVs and you will still go broke.Don&#8217;t expect world rugby to come running to help you guys &#8211; sort it out yourselves.Several years ago AFL clinics were held in South Africa and didn&#8217;t exactly make an impact &#8211; especially having to compete with soccer!</p>
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		<title>By: bluebarb</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789836</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[funny that the aussie coaches are moaning about the new laws? maybe they should have a netter around a shrimp barbie and get one story and stick to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny that the aussie coaches are moaning about the new laws? maybe they should have a netter around a shrimp barbie and get one story and stick to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789511</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you should also remember that OZ had won TWO RWC&#039;s, before SA did.

In practice there are really only TWO new rule changes, they are....The ball can&#039;t be kicked out on the full from a pass-back into the 25, and the 5 metre rule. The 5 metre rule virtually replacing the system before Jake brought in his rush defence, so not too much difference there. For MOST of the lineouts we are currently playing exactly the same way as before the change. All these tricky little do-da&#039;s in the lineouts have proved to be useless.

I&#039;d be quite happy with the 5 metre rule, full 7 man lineouts,and leave it at that. No, more Penalty Kicks should be given because players are giving away Free Kicks so they can get into a better defensive position. Perhaps in the defending half, ALL kicks should be penalty kicks thus taking away deliberate players infringing,

Patrick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should also remember that OZ had won TWO RWC&#8217;s, before SA did.</p>
<p>In practice there are really only TWO new rule changes, they are&#8230;.The ball can&#8217;t be kicked out on the full from a pass-back into the 25, and the 5 metre rule. The 5 metre rule virtually replacing the system before Jake brought in his rush defence, so not too much difference there. For MOST of the lineouts we are currently playing exactly the same way as before the change. All these tricky little do-da&#8217;s in the lineouts have proved to be useless.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be quite happy with the 5 metre rule, full 7 man lineouts,and leave it at that. No, more Penalty Kicks should be given because players are giving away Free Kicks so they can get into a better defensive position. Perhaps in the defending half, ALL kicks should be penalty kicks thus taking away deliberate players infringing,</p>
<p>Patrick.</p>
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		<title>By: J.B. Cowper</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789438</link>
		<dc:creator>J.B. Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I prefer the old laws - the game of rugby rules - if we wanted league we&#039;d play league; the old way favors us (Boks) because of the structured and the imperative of forward play with its curious combination of brutality and finesse.  The Aussies were blown out in WC 2007 because they didn&#039;t have a front rank - take away the beauty and importance of the props and hooker and you don&#039;t have rugby anymore; not as I understand it anyway.  He must f@#$%&amp;*ck off right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the old laws &#8211; the game of rugby rules &#8211; if we wanted league we&#8217;d play league; the old way favors us (Boks) because of the structured and the imperative of forward play with its curious combination of brutality and finesse.  The Aussies were blown out in WC 2007 because they didn&#8217;t have a front rank &#8211; take away the beauty and importance of the props and hooker and you don&#8217;t have rugby anymore; not as I understand it anyway.  He must f@#$%&amp;*ck off right now.</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789330</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like he wants to be leader of the new world order or rugby.

Is anyone actually taking this guys comment seriously? Like SANZAR etc?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like he wants to be leader of the new world order or rugby.</p>
<p>Is anyone actually taking this guys comment seriously? Like SANZAR etc?</p>
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		<title>By: RedLion (now supporting the Stormers)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789101</link>
		<dc:creator>RedLion (now supporting the Stormers)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say kick the convicts out of SANZAR and let them join Japan - to be called JPAU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say kick the convicts out of SANZAR and let them join Japan &#8211; to be called JPAU.</p>
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		<title>By: Durban Docks</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789068</link>
		<dc:creator>Durban Docks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok so: 

1) The next Australian Rugby Coach is currently dominating more than any other coach under the new rules.
2)  Oz does not have a scrum.
3)  Oz Rugby is getting taken to the cleaners by gaining grounds and open gates. (NFL &amp; AFL)
4) Oz rugby union has not won anything in some time = pressure.

This is why they are trying to change and hence all judgement and logic has been thrown out the window.

Fark the elvs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so: </p>
<p>1) The next Australian Rugby Coach is currently dominating more than any other coach under the new rules.<br />
2)  Oz does not have a scrum.<br />
3)  Oz Rugby is getting taken to the cleaners by gaining grounds and open gates. (NFL &amp; AFL)<br />
4) Oz rugby union has not won anything in some time = pressure.</p>
<p>This is why they are trying to change and hence all judgement and logic has been thrown out the window.</p>
<p>Fark the elvs</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789062</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wp matador

But that is life in general if one does not demand one does not get...it is very unfortunate.

In business the squeeky wheel gets the oil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wp matador</p>
<p>But that is life in general if one does not demand one does not get&#8230;it is very unfortunate.</p>
<p>In business the squeeky wheel gets the oil.</p>
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		<title>By: wls1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-789045</link>
		<dc:creator>wls1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is right this moment trying very hard to get Mugwabe on his side.lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is right this moment trying very hard to get Mugwabe on his side.lol</p>
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		<title>By: badboybutch</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788997</link>
		<dc:creator>badboybutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wie dink john o&#039;neill is hy? moet almal nou altyd spring as die dom f@kker sy vingers klap.die elvs het nog steeds nie sy land se rugby bevorder nie. maak nie saak wat hy probeer doen nie,die bokke sal steeds beter as die wallabies bly.DIE AUSSIES MAAK MY SIEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wie dink john o&#8217;neill is hy? moet almal nou altyd spring as die dom f@kker sy vingers klap.die elvs het nog steeds nie sy land se rugby bevorder nie. maak nie saak wat hy probeer doen nie,die bokke sal steeds beter as die wallabies bly.DIE AUSSIES MAAK MY SIEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: GriekwasStormer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788986</link>
		<dc:creator>GriekwasStormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of the ELVs is not my cup of tea.  For example the rules at the ruck.  If you play negative you get a short arm against you.  By the time the attacking team can use their sort arm penalty, the defence had an extra 5 seconds to get into place. 5 Seconds that can prevent a try.  This rule is robbing us of good rugby.

I don&#039;t mind about the other rules though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the ELVs is not my cup of tea.  For example the rules at the ruck.  If you play negative you get a short arm against you.  By the time the attacking team can use their sort arm penalty, the defence had an extra 5 seconds to get into place. 5 Seconds that can prevent a try.  This rule is robbing us of good rugby.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind about the other rules though.</p>
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		<title>By: WP-Matador</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788870</link>
		<dc:creator>WP-Matador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Howzit Walla

No mate, no statement or innuendo there. Point is if these wonderful people don&#039;t demand they get NOTHING, very similar to the previously disadvantaged in this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howzit Walla</p>
<p>No mate, no statement or innuendo there. Point is if these wonderful people don&#8217;t demand they get NOTHING, very similar to the previously disadvantaged in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788852</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[19 wp Matador

whats your point?

It seems you have a statement to declare about being aborigine!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19 wp Matador</p>
<p>whats your point?</p>
<p>It seems you have a statement to declare about being aborigine!!</p>
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		<title>By: WP-Matador</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788848</link>
		<dc:creator>WP-Matador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is wrong with this inmate. always demanding stuff. is he an aborigine?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is wrong with this inmate. always demanding stuff. is he an aborigine?</p>
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		<title>By: notabullbutashark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788793</link>
		<dc:creator>notabullbutashark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15.
no aussie product will ever work in sa...we do not like the aussie logo...well, we might eat kangaroo..thats about it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15.<br />
no aussie product will ever work in sa&#8230;we do not like the aussie logo&#8230;well, we might eat kangaroo..thats about it</p>
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		<title>By: 4teen</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788788</link>
		<dc:creator>4teen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#13 ditto!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 ditto!</p>
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		<title>By: 4teen</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788784</link>
		<dc:creator>4teen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O’Neil is fame/bonus seeker and he is propagating rules that don’t reflect too much integrity: 

ELV’s is a joke… if the Aussies were dominating world rugby; no one would have dared to touch the rules. 

I have to agree with PA about the 5m, lineout and the tackle law. That is all that they can look into; looking at this years actual play verses last year&#039;s, there is not that much of an improvement in actual game time.

Back to my initial statement… I really hate the deliberate infringements which only get punished by a free kick, of which the offender, for punishment, then get the lineout ball… and back into the attack they are again; sweet crooked justice hey?

What makes it worse is the referee interpretation of whether it is a deliberate professional infringement or not! 

Believe me… for years to come there will be problems and new gaps for the bookies.

Additionally, if the teams do there home work… and start to THINK, by slowing down the game at just the right point in time, they can actually get stuck into the opposition side of the field.

It’s like playing a new type of “percentage rugby”, the only difference… in this version; by applying strategic offences one gets the upper hand and the BALL every time. 

Nice lesson in life for the children out there hey… the player mustn’t fight because that’s ugly, but it’s ok to bend and break the rules to gain the advantage and possession; the “punishment” is worth it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O’Neil is fame/bonus seeker and he is propagating rules that don’t reflect too much integrity: </p>
<p>ELV’s is a joke… if the Aussies were dominating world rugby; no one would have dared to touch the rules. </p>
<p>I have to agree with PA about the 5m, lineout and the tackle law. That is all that they can look into; looking at this years actual play verses last year&#8217;s, there is not that much of an improvement in actual game time.</p>
<p>Back to my initial statement… I really hate the deliberate infringements which only get punished by a free kick, of which the offender, for punishment, then get the lineout ball… and back into the attack they are again; sweet crooked justice hey?</p>
<p>What makes it worse is the referee interpretation of whether it is a deliberate professional infringement or not! </p>
<p>Believe me… for years to come there will be problems and new gaps for the bookies.</p>
<p>Additionally, if the teams do there home work… and start to THINK, by slowing down the game at just the right point in time, they can actually get stuck into the opposition side of the field.</p>
<p>It’s like playing a new type of “percentage rugby”, the only difference… in this version; by applying strategic offences one gets the upper hand and the BALL every time. </p>
<p>Nice lesson in life for the children out there hey… the player mustn’t fight because that’s ugly, but it’s ok to bend and break the rules to gain the advantage and possession; the “punishment” is worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: SAussie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/03/18/aussies-want-laws-changed/#comment-788757</link>
		<dc:creator>SAussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[9. what you say is true in a way, those who love the game will always love it, but thats not enough to pay the bills, vetkeok your also correct. The other codes in Aus are definelty getting more aggresive when it comes to market share. The AFL is also looking at getting into your neck of the woods, how do you feel about that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9. what you say is true in a way, those who love the game will always love it, but thats not enough to pay the bills, vetkeok your also correct. The other codes in Aus are definelty getting more aggresive when it comes to market share. The AFL is also looking at getting into your neck of the woods, how do you feel about that</p>
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