Botha’s contractual bungle set to explode
1 Apr 2008
Bakkies Botha’s transfer saga continues to get more twisted, with both the Bulls and Toulon laying claim to him.
Botha is one of a number of elite players targeted by the French second division club, who already own Botha’s Springbok lock partner Victor Matfield, legendary Australia scrumhalf George Gregan, All Blacks Anton Oliver and Andrew Mehrtens, while All Blacks great Tana Umaga coaches the galaxy of stars.
When keo.co.za spoke to millionaire Toulon president Mourad Boudjellal on a recent visit to the club, he explained that Botha had signed a pre-contract with them, and would join on 1 April. He said the document indicated Botha’s intent to sign an official contract but explained that Botha was now legally obligated to join the club.
The Bulls, however, refused to release the player, despite his request, citing the fact that he was bound to the franchise by a four year contract he signed in late 2007.
This website has learned that Boudjellal last week showed the Toulon media the contract with Botha’s signature on the dotted line. Boudjellal insisted that they would secure Botha’s services irrespective of the Bulls’ assertions to the contrary.
If Botha failed to arrive on the specified date, Boudjellal said the club would proceed with legal action against the player. As it stands Botha is with the Bulls in Perth preparing for their Super 14 match against the Force. Unless the lock has developed a supernatural ability to teleport himself across the world, he is unlikely to show up for work in the south of France.
Toulon claim they have sent a copy of the signed contract to the South African Rugby Union [Saru]. However, Saru general manager of policy and regulations, Christo Ferreira, insists he has not received anything of the sort – but explained that manager of national teams Andy Marinos may be in possession of the document. Marinos asked to be contacted later on Tuesday, but would neither confirm or deny having received the contract.
“If the two parties are looking for mediation on the matter, the IRB usually deals with that. But Saru may intervene if they are requested to [by the IRB] although that hasn’t been the case to date,” Ferreira told keo.co.za.
Botha’s agent, Bernie Habana, failed to respond to questions around where the process stood, while Bulls CEO Barend van Graan was vehemently opposed to discussing the matter. “Please don’t ask me about Bakkies. I’m not talking about that. No comment,” Van Graan barked.
As it stands both the Bulls and Toulon have a contract with Botha, and Toulon will feel they have a watertight case should they opt to take legal action. The Bulls won’t relent on their position that the player has committed to them for the next four years, so the battle could get even messier in the coming weeks.
How Botha got himself into this situation is perplexing. He has no escape clause in his Bulls contract. In fact, he requested a long-term contract from the Bulls so that he would have financial security. Yet he, or his agent acting on his behalf, felt it appropriate to sign a legally bonding document with Toulon and he now finds himself in the middle of a brutal battle.
By Ryan Vrede
441 Comments
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1 Apr 2008, 15:08 pm
348
lol
1 Apr 2008, 15:13 pm
Hello boys/girls
I am feeling sensitive…..she is upset with the Zim elections. She believes if Mugabe gets back in her relations will leave the country.
Mugabe
has redistributed land
has redistributed ownership of the economy
has redistributed businesses
is currently redistributing VOTES.
True indigenisation!!
1 Apr 2008, 15:15 pm
Mugabe in the lead! Latest news
1 Apr 2008, 15:18 pm
Mugabe will ensure that the vote goes to a second round and he will win.
This time he would be prepared and just maybe those extra ballot papers were preparation for this.
A second round means not many observers as they were expecting just one round so would have head off home.
This Bob is too crafty!
1 Apr 2008, 15:20 pm
Is the Varsity final at UCT or Stellenbosch?
I hope its Stellies, as an Ikey living there I would luuurve to rub it in.
1 Apr 2008, 15:22 pm
Walla
As I understand it, the results are announced at the various constituencies after the counting. The MDC based their prediction on this. So far the MDC has accepted that the announced results are basically the same as their figures. So we need to sit this one out in my opinion.
1 Apr 2008, 15:29 pm
BOB MUGABE IN THE LEAD…The ****** syphilitic C**t will ensure he keeps his evil ****** hands at the helm.
Yes, I take this personally…and its now time that someone makes a plan to kill him – GENUINELY.
The results boys, you can bet yr asses will be rigged…(if Bob keeps THAT LEAD….)
I’d love to tell him he has won, then shoot him between the eyes whilst shouting APRIL FOOL (and Jan fool, Feb fool, March fool etc etc)
1 Apr 2008, 15:29 pm
#356
agree.. no breaking open the champagne yet
1 Apr 2008, 15:30 pm
#355 – You ain’t got nothing to rub in yet brother….
1 Apr 2008, 15:30 pm
Ruck
You organise the money I’ll arrange the rest!
1 Apr 2008, 15:33 pm
AB
True..yet they are saying that the presidential vote is very different to the parliamentary.
I think historical zanu pf loyalists have voted Mugabe out but have shown loyalty to the party by keeping Zanu Pf in Parliament.
This vote has clearly shown that they are tired of the old man but are keen to keep the party alive as they, the public, think there are good elements in Zanu.
Mugabe is scared to announce victory as he does not know where his key players loyalty lies…I believe he wanted to announce victory to test where these peoples loyalty.
This is a theory!!
Mugabe has nothing to lose…if the **** hits the fan he can walk away and wil;l be granted amnesty.
There are some elements in his heirarchy who have much to lose.
Dont get me wrong he wants to stay in power..at best but there will be more desperate people in his set up.
1 Apr 2008, 15:36 pm
the MDC are expecting these results
99 – MDC
96 – Zanu Pf
the rest will get the remainder.
see Shoab akhtar has been given a five year ban.
1 Apr 2008, 15:36 pm
The whole Zimbabwe debacle is the ultimate revenge for the Jameson raid. South Africa stood by while Rhodesia went down the drain and now the New South Africa is standing by while Zimbabwe goes down the drain. Its pitiful.
1 Apr 2008, 15:40 pm
marlinspike
Jameson Raid? What are you talking about? The Jameson raid was the English coming from Botswana area into the then Transvaal! English vs ZAR!
1 Apr 2008, 15:47 pm
363
not sure (and this is said tongue in cheek … my own cheek that is), but i believe there are more millionares in zim that in any other african country!
1 Apr 2008, 15:52 pm
AB
I am building up an annoyance to the different media outlets who give varying results on the elections.
Go from one media outlet to another and there is no consistency…just speculative results.
This just fuels fire for Mugabe as he has not announced anything and remained calm and he will portray his results to be true whilst everyone else is scrapping the barrel to find there own numbers to sell a story.
The Zimbabwean shows = MDC 117, Zanu 51
Zim electionresults = MDC 99, zanu 77
MDC unofficial = MDC 99. zanu 96, Makoni 10
BBC = Mugabe has 36%, MDC 58%
then later they say – Mugabe 41%, MDC 49%
Observers say – mugabe 43%, MDC 48%
Skynews – MDC 60%, Mugabe 30%
Nothing from zanu other than ZEC.
This is how mugabe is going to win this…. create an atmosphere of chaos and then they will come in calmly and say we have won and how are the results.
Human nature tends to want control and stability and Mr G will use this to his benefit..they are going to use this and everyones energy will be spent after such a lengthy time speculating.
Mugabe is a master!
1 Apr 2008, 15:54 pm
365 asha1
Try billionaires…next month trillionaires!
1 Apr 2008, 15:57 pm
Walla
If I was the MDC I would have videoed each of the 220 odd results at constituent level as proof!
But this is a wise old fox!
There were some reports that Mugabe spend last night at Mbekis official residence here in Pretoria/Tswane!
1 Apr 2008, 16:01 pm
i wanna ****** stomp mugabes head into the sand!!!! i have many mates up there still taking safaris, trying to hold things together whilst bob plays his games. their salaries dont even allow them to buy a pack of batteries! they are the fortunate ones as they have access to foreign exchange from guests though.
he must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 Apr 2008, 16:01 pm
366# Walla
I think you have read Bob’s strategy perfectly!
That’s is exactly how he is going to manipulate the uncertainty…one announcement from him, and we have staus quo.
Anyone objects, he is a dead man.
1 Apr 2008, 16:05 pm
AB
Mbeki/Mugabe, who’s who in the zoo…
Won’t be surprised at all if the mofo sneaked into Pta for some moral support and another shot of ‘silent diplomacy’.
1 Apr 2008, 16:06 pm
bob will be dragged through the streets by his ankles as the raging mob burns his house to the ground and the people gorge themselves on the stockpile of food he has hidden in his basement.
all his cronies will suffer the spear. the people will not stand for another stolen election!!!
i will join them in solidarity by drinking bollingers and zambezi lager and pretending to be on a houseboat in my pool until i get so pissed that i drown or sober up sharpish!
1 Apr 2008, 16:07 pm
burn muthf#cker burn! loose the dogs of war on his ***!!
1 Apr 2008, 16:10 pm
Pietman
I personally think the vote will be reflected as a roughly equel division which would then create an artificial “transition government” that can start renewing Zimbabwe.
WRT the presedential election; the outcome here is going to be very interesting!
Some commentator today said that in the 3 week period to the next Presidential election (if nobody wins with a 51% margin) Mugabe can not act as President as his term of office is over.
1 Apr 2008, 16:14 pm
Will we see Military rule in Zim shortly…..
With the rest of the world (SA, USA & UK) doing f-all…..
After all it’s a piddling African country, not an oil-rich country…
1 Apr 2008, 16:14 pm
Ranger/Walla
But if Mad Dog pulls this one off somehow, what then?
Where is he going to go with that country?
Zim will only get foreign investment and assistance, and guys like us willing to go there and help out in any way we can if it is a ‘Bob free zone’ .
So, whether he wins or not, I think it is the end of the road for Bob.
Zim cannot survive another 6 months without foreign aid.
(And then there were some bloggers here only a few months ago with our cricket tour, talking how Zim has enough food to feed SA! Remember them? I do…)
1 Apr 2008, 16:17 pm
ja piet, dont take jokers like that seriously though. wheres all the food then? what a laugh.
we will see a revolution in zim if bob sneaks it. he has had his time and hungry people are dangerous.
1 Apr 2008, 16:17 pm
COOL RANGER….I see we are on the same DIE YOU USELESS ************* C**T DIE tyrade here, whilst an Australian gives us the latest news…
I am just so desperately worried for the “innocents” in Zim, because the facts have to be faced…..all hell is going to break loose..
But the conflicting stories coming out….I also heard Bob is HERE in SA already – part of the “I’ll get out with my head hild high” Thabo brokered deal….Don’t know if its true…AB – this equal vote thing, I have been told is ALSO part of the Thabo brokered deal….What to believe?
If its not true..I hope to God the SADF is armed and ready to enter Zim…
1 Apr 2008, 16:18 pm
Mugabe ‘haat’ sy mense deur die korrupte wyse waarop hy sy land ‘regeer’ of eerder tiraniseer.
Maar ‘haat’ lê nie net in dade nie maar ook in woorde soos hierdie:
“The ****** syphilitic C**t will ensure he keeps his evil ****** hands at the helm.”
“burn muthf#cker burn! loose the dogs of war on his ***!!”
‘n Mens is nie op hoër morele gronde as jy soos ‘n ‘hatemonger’ skryf nie. Dan is jy net so sleg as Mugabe.
Onthou daar is ook jonger kinders wat op hierdie poslyste lees, omdat hul lief is vir rugby, so asb dink tweekeer voor jy iets skryf.
Ekself gee nie om oor wat hier geskryf word nie, of dit sport of politiek is nie, maar ek dink ons moet wel so skryf dat ons nie in ons skrywes doen wat Magube in sy land doen nie, en dit is om haatdraend te skryf nie.
1 Apr 2008, 16:18 pm
AB
I see here on CNN that the opposition and Mugabe are in conference right now, so perhaps some coalition/’transition’ type of government, as you say.
Won’t work as long as Bob is in there.
1 Apr 2008, 16:20 pm
Rangerman
You remember those bloggers, ’16 inch’ and his following?
With the Proteas tour last year?
All of a sudden they are nowhere.
1 Apr 2008, 16:20 pm
“The most sinister (option) is that he would declare the results to be null and void.
This would place him in significant conflict with the opposition who would contest his decision,” said Pretoria-based analyst Chris Maroleng.
“This would have a high degree of violence attached to it, and could see clashes” between the MDC and forces loyal to Mugabe.
However, Maroleng said such an option carried big risks as Mugabe was no longer guaranteed the loyalty of the armed forces.
“He is receiving diminished support from the security sector who have been his main backers.”
ha ha you syphilytic old fukwit! live in fear until the knock comes on the door. you will die you sonofabitch!
1 Apr 2008, 16:24 pm
alf
Noble words my friend! This is a killer of a nation that 10 years ago was referred to as the “breadbasket of the world”
He does not deserve the respect normally given to human beings!
1 Apr 2008, 16:24 pm
alf
i am not claiming any high ground! i am advocating a mass murderers removal by any means neccescary. yes, i hate him. i hate what he has done to his people. but i see your point mate.
to all the kiddies reading this, please ignore my rantings about bob “the syphylitic fukwit” mugabe.
thanks.
1 Apr 2008, 16:25 pm
#379 – Then I hope those young children read what I have written about the evil **** that is Mugabe…I feel no remorse, no guilt, no moral urge…..
I am voicing my opinion, which I am entitled to, and this opinion just happens to be, BURN MOTHRFUCKKKER MUGABE BURN….
1 Apr 2008, 16:26 pm
hopefully any young kids reading our rants will understand how reprehensible it is to behave in the manner he has!
1 Apr 2008, 16:28 pm
#385 – And NO, I do not love my neighbour, if my neighbour IS MUGABE….and I do not forgive…..if the person I have to forgive is MUGABE….**** HIM.
1 Apr 2008, 16:28 pm
However, Heidi Holland, granted a rare interview recently with Mugabe for a new psychological profile, said he would never voluntarily give up office.
“I am sure emotionally he is quite incapable of admitting defeat,” she told AFP.
“He has built himself up into a world where he can only be right, he can’t be wrong.
“His traditional response to disillusionment or rejection is revenge, that you can see throughout his career.
“I don’t know who would be able to persuade him he should accept defeat.”
ho ho ho, the people will persuade you old man.
1 Apr 2008, 16:28 pm
Alf you old diplomat…..
Just think about it….. if we’re sooooo freegin tired of old Mugabe…. how freegin murderously tired are the people in Zim of him?
I see news24 is also speculating that he might already have left Zim into exile…..
Wherever in the world he hides, his life is not safe, because there will be easier access to old Bob…. in ZIM he had a few kilometres cleared around him for fear of assasination, elsewhere he will be within riflescope range…
1 Apr 2008, 16:30 pm
I hope that the Bulls & Toulon both sue bakkies for more money than he has ever made in his entire life…
1 Apr 2008, 16:30 pm
#387 – Will I be “going down” for saying that? Maybe, but then I get a shot at Mugabe, Idi, Hussein and a few others I am guaranteed to bump into “down there…”
1 Apr 2008, 16:32 pm
Nobody will sue Bakkies John_Psycho….. there are no legal grounds for it…..
1 Apr 2008, 16:32 pm
#389 – Perhaps Bob is in Haiti?
1 Apr 2008, 16:34 pm
I started aFacebook group: Mugabe to be exterminated very quickly we have 20 members!
1 Apr 2008, 16:36 pm
#394 – I must join….I named the crack team to take him out yesterday…Troy Flavell, Ali Williams, Bakkies Botha, and Fanie Oelschig (to trash talk…)
These are the people to do the exterminating…where is your facebook group?
1 Apr 2008, 16:36 pm
Speculation abounds that Mugabe will go into exile in Namibia or in Malasia…
I recon Bob will first try to hold onto power by declaring the Elections null & void and instituting Martial Law through his loyal Defence Force…. then when the chips are really down, he’ll be on a plane into exile…
1 Apr 2008, 16:37 pm
If Mugabe leaves the country…thew elections will be rigged.
A victory announcement is going to test the ‘BITE’ of all zimbabweans like what happened in 2002…if there is no response Mugabe will be back to confirm his presidency.
1 Apr 2008, 16:38 pm
Ranger
The author of ‘Dining with Mugabe’?
She was on TV here earlier, and she said he is a highly intelligent man.
But, she said also, he “doesn’t ever think with his heart”, he is always scheming on his next move.
Zimbabwe belongs to him, like your home belongs to you. He doesn’t allow any interference in ‘his backyard’. He takes serious offence to that, however well intended, she said.
The man is sick…
1 Apr 2008, 16:39 pm
Ruck
Search for it on facebook : “Mugabe to be Exterminated”
1 Apr 2008, 16:41 pm
ja pietman, i have read parts of her new book. will read the whole thing soon. have you read “when a crocodile eats the sun”? excellent.
he is indeed a sick man, but unlike in most cases where i would advocate kindness and forgiveness, he has gone too far…
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