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	<title>Comments on: Botha&#8217;s contractual bungle set to explode</title>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-804119</link>
		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Mr Habana needs a course in contract reading 101.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Mr Habana needs a course in contract reading 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803781</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid i don&#039;t know much of the details, just what M Boudjellal said to the press and a few things they&#039;ve said independently.

Botha was thought to have a contractual release clause with the Bulls and he was supposed to be quite interested in leaving. He signed a precontract and we were merrily waiting for him to come when SARU and the Bulls said there was no such thing. It came a bit as a shock, it means someone&#039;s lying between SARU/Bulls and Bernie Habana. Personnally i have lots of doubts on Bernie Habana, he&#039;s already made talks for Bryan and Wynand Olivier with french club Aviron Bayonnais will both of them had contracts running with the Bulls until 2009, i remember the president of Aviron Bayonnais being quite confident as well, we even saw both players in Bayonne with a scarf of the team on their shoulders at the stadium. I don&#039;t need to tell you that these players still do not play for Aviron Bayonnais. I&#039;m afraid the same is happening again and Bernie Habana made talks while it was impossible for Bakkies to leave SA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid i don&#8217;t know much of the details, just what M Boudjellal said to the press and a few things they&#8217;ve said independently.</p>
<p>Botha was thought to have a contractual release clause with the Bulls and he was supposed to be quite interested in leaving. He signed a precontract and we were merrily waiting for him to come when SARU and the Bulls said there was no such thing. It came a bit as a shock, it means someone&#8217;s lying between SARU/Bulls and Bernie Habana. Personnally i have lots of doubts on Bernie Habana, he&#8217;s already made talks for Bryan and Wynand Olivier with french club Aviron Bayonnais will both of them had contracts running with the Bulls until 2009, i remember the president of Aviron Bayonnais being quite confident as well, we even saw both players in Bayonne with a scarf of the team on their shoulders at the stadium. I don&#8217;t need to tell you that these players still do not play for Aviron Bayonnais. I&#8217;m afraid the same is happening again and Bernie Habana made talks while it was impossible for Bakkies to leave SA.</p>
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		<title>By: Biscuit</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803326</link>
		<dc:creator>Biscuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Romain,

I have one question.

Firstly no-one is denying that Botha signed a contract.

However it has been mentioned on this blog (by GBS I think) that there is a suspensive condition on the contract. The suspensive condition is apparently that the Bulls release him from his current contract.

If this is true then the suspensive condition has not been met and the contract is unenforceable by Toulon.

Any more info?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Romain,</p>
<p>I have one question.</p>
<p>Firstly no-one is denying that Botha signed a contract.</p>
<p>However it has been mentioned on this blog (by GBS I think) that there is a suspensive condition on the contract. The suspensive condition is apparently that the Bulls release him from his current contract.</p>
<p>If this is true then the suspensive condition has not been met and the contract is unenforceable by Toulon.</p>
<p>Any more info?</p>
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		<title>By: CoachPete</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803190</link>
		<dc:creator>CoachPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Bakkies just gets up and leaves to play for Toulon, it will be a breech of contract with SA rugby and Bulls, so his boks days will be over. IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bakkies just gets up and leaves to play for Toulon, it will be a breech of contract with SA rugby and Bulls, so his boks days will be over. IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803181</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there.

To everyone thinking this is an april&#039;s fools, believe me: it&#039;s not.
I&#039;ve personnally seen the press conference where M Boudjellal shows briefly the signed paper and says that he will sue Bakkies if he doesn&#039;t show up on April&#039;s 1st.

We&#039;ll see how it goes although i doubt it&#039;ll go well for us (Toulon). Bakkies will probably remain in SA and it might be for the best. We&#039;ll be able to recruit second rows that are more interested into committing into the club than into their paychecks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.</p>
<p>To everyone thinking this is an april&#8217;s fools, believe me: it&#8217;s not.<br />
I&#8217;ve personnally seen the press conference where M Boudjellal shows briefly the signed paper and says that he will sue Bakkies if he doesn&#8217;t show up on April&#8217;s 1st.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how it goes although i doubt it&#8217;ll go well for us (Toulon). Bakkies will probably remain in SA and it might be for the best. We&#8217;ll be able to recruit second rows that are more interested into committing into the club than into their paychecks.</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
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		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bakkies would not have agreed to something which he cannot deliver on - there would always have to be suspensive conditions in teh contract (i.e. only IF he can get out of the other contract with eth Bulls,then he agrees to join Toulon). No self respecting agent would ever agree to anything else.

There is no way that Toulon can &quot;enforce&quot; a contract like that with a suspensive agreement.  Sounds Like toulon are blowing a lot of smoke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bakkies would not have agreed to something which he cannot deliver on &#8211; there would always have to be suspensive conditions in teh contract (i.e. only IF he can get out of the other contract with eth Bulls,then he agrees to join Toulon). No self respecting agent would ever agree to anything else.</p>
<p>There is no way that Toulon can &#8220;enforce&#8221; a contract like that with a suspensive agreement.  Sounds Like toulon are blowing a lot of smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: grootblousmile</title>
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		<dc:creator>grootblousmile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Train,

Not sure, I know he is supposedly the Agent for Meisiekind, Bakkies, Bryan

An un-accredited Agent is only allowed to act if he is family...... like Bernie with his son, Bryan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Train,</p>
<p>Not sure, I know he is supposedly the Agent for Meisiekind, Bakkies, Bryan</p>
<p>An un-accredited Agent is only allowed to act if he is family&#8230;&#8230; like Bernie with his son, Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Train</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803149</link>
		<dc:creator>Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks GBS - do you know how many players Bernie looks after?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks GBS &#8211; do you know how many players Bernie looks after?</p>
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		<title>By: ddrek</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803130</link>
		<dc:creator>ddrek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bakkies is overrated anyway. a world class player does NOT ONLY shine when the team is winning and dominating....ala Bakkies. They show there class when the team is doing poorly too. Somneone like Latham always shows his class and his danger...always. Vic shows his class. Breyton used to in his 1999 to 2002 era and Andre Joubert etc ... when they got the ball you just felt like atleast they would do the best thing or get the team on the front foot again.
Bakkies just disappears ! Far too often.How many lineout steals this S14 ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bakkies is overrated anyway. a world class player does NOT ONLY shine when the team is winning and dominating&#8230;.ala Bakkies. They show there class when the team is doing poorly too. Somneone like Latham always shows his class and his danger&#8230;always. Vic shows his class. Breyton used to in his 1999 to 2002 era and Andre Joubert etc &#8230; when they got the ball you just felt like atleast they would do the best thing or get the team on the front foot again.<br />
Bakkies just disappears ! Far too often.How many lineout steals this S14 ?</p>
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		<title>By: OCO</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803123</link>
		<dc:creator>OCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wallabie,

RM is still investigating whether he would be elligible to run for president in SA - first choice - or the cost of being put into suspended animation to await his next &#039;coming&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallabie,</p>
<p>RM is still investigating whether he would be elligible to run for president in SA &#8211; first choice &#8211; or the cost of being put into suspended animation to await his next &#8216;coming&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: grootblousmile</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803064</link>
		<dc:creator>grootblousmile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Train,

I doubt whether &quot;the Player Agency&quot; in Cape Town has anything to do with this..... Bernie is his own worst enemy, not having been accredited as Player Agent with SARU yet.

I think nothing will come from the threats of Toulon.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Train,</p>
<p>I doubt whether &#8220;the Player Agency&#8221; in Cape Town has anything to do with this&#8230;.. Bernie is his own worst enemy, not having been accredited as Player Agent with SARU yet.</p>
<p>I think nothing will come from the threats of Toulon&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Train</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803060</link>
		<dc:creator>Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could this article be about trying to embarrass Bernie Habana and thereby boost a player-agency based in the Cape?

In fairness though - this does sound like bit of a cock-up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this article be about trying to embarrass Bernie Habana and thereby boost a player-agency based in the Cape?</p>
<p>In fairness though &#8211; this does sound like bit of a <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>-up.</p>
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		<title>By: marlinspike</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803046</link>
		<dc:creator>marlinspike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Signing off.
Enjoy your evening morning etc wherever you may be, its a bright sunny day in London today, and the Sharks are going to kick arse this weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signing off.<br />
Enjoy your evening morning etc wherever you may be, its a bright sunny day in London today, and the Sharks are going to kick arse this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: marlinspike</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803045</link>
		<dc:creator>marlinspike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#427 Wallabie

From your lips to Gods ears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#427 Wallabie</p>
<p>From your lips to Gods ears.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803042</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marlin

It is becoming less of that.

Some security officials are concerned that the vote against Mugabe was too big that a popular uprising is inevitable if Mugabe announced victory.

Mugabe has been persuaded at least to delay this or not to do it at all.

The delay in results I believe is that Mugabe is in negotiation with MDC and to prevent party factions from fighting..this is why we are seeing even results being announced.

I have hope for Zimbabwe...I hope this all pans out according to what media reports are saying.

MDC has kept there lines of communication open with moderate zanu pf party members and more importantly the most influential man to the defence...Solomon Mujuru.
Solomon headed up the army whilst fighting in the liberation war and so has immense respect from the military.
Morgan approached him so he could open up communication with the military which is a direct indication that support for Mugabe is severely waning and Mugabe is beginning to realise this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marlin</p>
<p>It is becoming less of that.</p>
<p>Some security officials are concerned that the vote against Mugabe was too big that a popular uprising is inevitable if Mugabe announced victory.</p>
<p>Mugabe has been persuaded at least to delay this or not to do it at all.</p>
<p>The delay in results I believe is that Mugabe is in negotiation with MDC and to prevent party factions from fighting..this is why we are seeing even results being announced.</p>
<p>I have hope for Zimbabwe&#8230;I hope this all pans out according to what media reports are saying.</p>
<p>MDC has kept there lines of communication open with moderate zanu pf party members and more importantly the most influential man to the defence&#8230;Solomon Mujuru.<br />
Solomon headed up the army whilst fighting in the liberation war and so has immense respect from the military.<br />
Morgan approached him so he could open up communication with the military which is a direct indication that support for Mugabe is severely waning and Mugabe is beginning to realise this.</p>
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		<title>By: OCO</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803041</link>
		<dc:creator>OCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alf #423,

I was an hour ahead of you on that! Mind you, every day here in the ME is 1st April!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alf #423,</p>
<p>I was an hour ahead of you on that! Mind you, every day here in the ME is 1st April!</p>
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		<title>By: OCO</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803040</link>
		<dc:creator>OCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alf,

Good to see ya. The Us of A is only interested if there is an economic benefit. In other words, if the equation (monetary benefits - cost of invasion) is positive then the dumb yanks will intervene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alf,</p>
<p>Good to see ya. The Us of A is only interested if there is an economic benefit. In other words, if the equation (monetary benefits &#8211; cost of invasion) is positive then the dumb yanks will intervene.</p>
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		<title>By: marlinspike</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803038</link>
		<dc:creator>marlinspike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#421 Alf

Its the lack of oil in my opinion.
Although some press in the UK has been saying that the USA were about to intervene in Zim. Maybe this is why Mugabe is ready to stand down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#421 Alf</p>
<p>Its the lack of oil in my opinion.<br />
Although some press in the UK has been saying that the USA were about to intervene in Zim. Maybe this is why Mugabe is ready to stand down.</p>
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		<title>By: alf</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803035</link>
		<dc:creator>alf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OCO, dit is 1 April]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OCO, dit is 1 April</p>
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		<title>By: OCO</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/01/bothas-contractual-bungle-set-to-explode/#comment-803034</link>
		<dc:creator>OCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Bothas&#039; contract does explode, does he have to clean up the mess?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bothas&#8217; contract does explode, does he have to clean up the mess?</p>
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