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	<title>Comments on: NZRU battles to keep Carter</title>
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		<title>By: marvinb</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817255</link>
		<dc:creator>marvinb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NZRFU have to try harder to keep most of their top line players eventually they should open up eligibility but they should only pick five overseas players and the rest from NZ comps]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NZRFU have to try harder to keep most of their top line players eventually they should open up eligibility but they should only pick five overseas players and the rest from NZ comps</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817253</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#21
Cos even still before the last RWC he had a better win/loss record than anybody.How can you sack a man cos of one loss.
Have a look at yourselves first and ask &quot;why does SA get rid of a coach that won the RWC&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21<br />
Cos even still before the last RWC he had a better win/loss record than anybody.How can you sack a man cos of one loss.<br />
Have a look at yourselves first and ask &#8220;why does SA get rid of a coach that won the RWC&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RedLion</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817193</link>
		<dc:creator>RedLion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Both have unforgiving and demanding Fans, Selectors and Media.&quot;

lol cane

It seems that the NZ public, media and selectors have forgiven Henry for his stuff up&#039;s in 2007. Why else give a choker a 2nd chance?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Both have unforgiving and demanding Fans, Selectors and Media.&#8221;</p>
<p>lol cane</p>
<p>It seems that the NZ public, media and selectors have forgiven Henry for his stuff up&#8217;s in 2007. Why else give a choker a 2nd chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes Expatinus</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817183</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes Expatinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like IRB needs to step in. Also look at the mess around contracts aka Bakkies.

I would venture to say things are getting out of hand, IRB not in control anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like IRB needs to step in. Also look at the mess around contracts aka Bakkies.</p>
<p>I would venture to say things are getting out of hand, IRB not in control anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheetha Champs</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817073</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheetha Champs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cane, I agree with you. The only really solid solution to the problem is a global season similar to soccer. If we could garuantee that between the months of May and August (for example) - only tests will be played - we could hopefully end the whole situation of club over country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cane, I agree with you. The only really solid solution to the problem is a global season similar to soccer. If we could garuantee that between the months of May and August (for example) &#8211; only tests will be played &#8211; we could hopefully end the whole situation of club over country.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-817011</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodstuff #15,

On TV earlier this week Robbie Deans said the &quot;normal&quot; defection rate to Northern Climes, was 7 members of his squad.

This rape cannot continue indefinately. (or we are all fooooked).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodstuff #15,</p>
<p>On TV earlier this week Robbie Deans said the &#8220;normal&#8221; defection rate to Northern Climes, was 7 members of his squad.</p>
<p>This rape cannot continue indefinately. (or we are all fooooked).</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816995</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[da Bill,

Hard to argue with that Post.  Except............yes NZ got wipped 3-0 by the poms in R.League.

Why ......because we were trying to merge local NZ Talent, with NRL Superstars with NH players.  And then only &quot;Players the Clubs would release&quot;.

&quot;Players the Clubs would release&quot;. Will this be a catch phrase for RU Tests in the future. Lets hope it never gets to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>da Bill,</p>
<p>Hard to argue with that Post.  Except&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;yes NZ got wipped 3-0 by the poms in R.League.</p>
<p>Why &#8230;&#8230;because we were trying to merge local NZ Talent, with NRL Superstars with NH players.  And then only &#8220;Players the Clubs would release&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Players the Clubs would release&#8221;. Will this be a catch phrase for RU Tests in the future. Lets hope it never gets to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Erfplaas</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816984</link>
		<dc:creator>Erfplaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your walking a thin line Cane 

Goodthing we don&#039;t have the RL is SA :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your walking a thin line Cane </p>
<p>Goodthing we don&#8217;t have the RL is SA <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: goodstuff</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816983</link>
		<dc:creator>goodstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the club NZ! We know all about it, especially the cheetahs (lost 7 starting players to Europe)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the club NZ! We know all about it, especially the cheetahs (lost 7 starting players to Europe)</p>
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		<title>By: The Bill</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816971</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cane, not sure you guy&#039;s will be so keen on League if you keep getting thrashed by GB. 3-0 the last series?

IRB needs to step in here. Restrict the number of overseas players playing in France &amp; England. The Tri-nations need to put pressure while they still have some power left.

If it carries on like this, all the power will be with the clubs &amp; we all know how selfish they can be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cane, not sure you guy&#8217;s will be so keen on League if you keep getting thrashed by GB. 3-0 the last series?</p>
<p>IRB needs to step in here. Restrict the number of overseas players playing in France &amp; England. The Tri-nations need to put pressure while they still have some power left.</p>
<p>If it carries on like this, all the power will be with the clubs &amp; we all know how selfish they can be.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816933</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leeanthonyw,

The pressures on the AB&#039;s are not any greater than the presures on the Boks.  Both have unforgiving and demanding Fans, Selectors and Media.

Sure the AB&#039;s were dejected after their lose to France at the WC. And yes a tear could be detected in Danny&#039;s  eye........... But so so too were France, Australia  and Argentina dejected and tearfull. In fact I never seen so many grown men weep.

You win some, you lose some. They may be Chokers, but hey are Our Chokers.
At least that is...untill we transfer our loyalty and support to the game of RL.

In case any of you Saffas have never played League. It is a least as enjoyable a game &quot;to play&quot; as Rugby Union. To have a good game you don&#039;t even need a Ref. Trying playing Rugby Union without a ref.

Don&#039;t get me wrong. I&#039;m a Union man. I&#039;ve play both and enjoyed them both. But I&#039;m a Union man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leeanthonyw,</p>
<p>The pressures on the AB&#8217;s are not any greater than the presures on the Boks.  Both have unforgiving and demanding Fans, Selectors and Media.</p>
<p>Sure the AB&#8217;s were dejected after their lose to France at the WC. And yes a tear could be detected in Danny&#8217;s  eye&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. But so so too were France, Australia  and Argentina dejected and tearfull. In fact I never seen so many grown men weep.</p>
<p>You win some, you lose some. They may be Chokers, but hey are Our Chokers.<br />
At least that is&#8230;untill we transfer our loyalty and support to the game of RL.</p>
<p>In case any of you Saffas have never played League. It is a least as enjoyable a game &#8220;to play&#8221; as Rugby Union. To have a good game you don&#8217;t even need a Ref. Trying playing Rugby Union without a ref.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I&#8217;m a Union man. I&#8217;ve play both and enjoyed them both. But I&#8217;m a Union man.</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816908</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cane - can you imagine the pressure on the AB players come RWC2011? Even i get the jitters just thinking about the pressure on the AB players and i&#039;m a Bok supporter!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cane &#8211; can you imagine the pressure on the AB players come RWC2011? Even i get the jitters just thinking about the pressure on the AB players and i&#8217;m a Bok supporter!!</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816899</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cane - maybe a world rugby season is what is needed. Then there is no more excuses from anyone. So if a whole bunch of Boks, Ozzies or Kiwis are playing for Bath for e.g. then if the Boks/ABs or Ozs are playing against England then all the international players for either team just don&#039;t play for Bath that weekend instead they play each other in the international.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cane &#8211; maybe a world rugby season is what is needed. Then there is no more excuses from anyone. So if a whole bunch of Boks, Ozzies or Kiwis are playing for Bath for e.g. then if the Boks/ABs or Ozs are playing against England then all the international players for either team just don&#8217;t play for Bath that weekend instead they play each other in the international.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816846</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brawler,

Without a Strong and Marketable S14 and 3N, Southern Hemisphere Rugby is stuffed. The whole of Professional, and a good part of Amateur Rugby is financed by the News Corp deal.

Even now in my home City in NZ soccer is getting better crowds than rugby. In Auckland R. League is getting more support every year.

In Aussie the competition for the hearts and minds of the hoi polloi has always been an uphill battle for R.Union. And they are making no or little progress. NZ&#039;s would rather watch an Aussie NRL (League) game than any Northern Hemisphere Rugby Union match.

This North/South battle for players is a battle of very high stakes in this part of the World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brawler,</p>
<p>Without a Strong and Marketable S14 and 3N, Southern Hemisphere Rugby is stuffed. The whole of Professional, and a good part of Amateur Rugby is financed by the News Corp deal.</p>
<p>Even now in my home City in NZ soccer is getting better crowds than rugby. In Auckland R. League is getting more support every year.</p>
<p>In Aussie the competition for the hearts and minds of the hoi polloi has always been an uphill battle for R.Union. And they are making no or little progress. NZ&#8217;s would rather watch an Aussie NRL (League) game than any Northern Hemisphere Rugby Union match.</p>
<p>This North/South battle for players is a battle of very high stakes in this part of the World.</p>
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		<title>By: THE MAULER</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816795</link>
		<dc:creator>THE MAULER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think its time they start doing what they do in the football and let players play wherever they want to and still represent their countries! I know that it could deplete the international teams like england but it could be great to see a player like Carter in a Sharks jersey!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its time they start doing what they do in the football and let players play wherever they want to and still represent their countries! I know that it could deplete the international teams like england but it could be great to see a player like Carter in a Sharks jersey!</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816777</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#6 leeanthonyw 
April 15th, 2008 at 12:18 pm 
&quot;I thnk the failure at last years RWC has had a huge impact on the psyche of the Kiwi players&quot;.

Last weekend at Loftus they didn&#039;t look too &quot;psyched out&quot; to me Lee.

And those Highlanders look more &quot;psycho&quot; than &quot;psyched out.&quot;

Speaking of psychopaths, Bakkies has been quiet lately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 leeanthonyw<br />
April 15th, 2008 at 12:18 pm<br />
&#8220;I thnk the failure at last years RWC has had a huge impact on the psyche of the Kiwi players&#8221;.</p>
<p>Last weekend at Loftus they didn&#8217;t look too &#8220;psyched out&#8221; to me Lee.</p>
<p>And those Highlanders look more &#8220;psycho&#8221; than &#8220;psyched out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking of psychopaths, Bakkies has been quiet lately.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816763</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#5 Cheeta Champs,

The reason (NZ only pick domestic based players) is the same reason SA had the same Policy, up untill this year.

It is thought that the exodus of players heading North, would become a deluge.

Leaving NZ S14 and NPC  sides  totally gutted by the lure of the Euro and the Yen.

It has been reported that Carter has been offered US$1.2 Million  for a season up North. We cannot comprehend paying any player anything like that.

The attractions of Heiniken Cup rugby don&#039;t just revolve around money though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 Cheeta Champs,</p>
<p>The reason (NZ only pick domestic based players) is the same reason SA had the same Policy, up untill this year.</p>
<p>It is thought that the exodus of players heading North, would become a deluge.</p>
<p>Leaving NZ S14 and NPC  sides  totally gutted by the lure of the Euro and the Yen.</p>
<p>It has been reported that Carter has been offered US$1.2 Million  for a season up North. We cannot comprehend paying any player anything like that.</p>
<p>The attractions of Heiniken Cup rugby don&#8217;t just revolve around money though.</p>
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		<title>By: leeanthonyw</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816699</link>
		<dc:creator>leeanthonyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thnk the failure at last years RWC has had a huge impact on the psyche of the Kiwi players. I don&#039;t think they want to go through that pressure again, it must be immense for the AB players. I for one wished they had beaten the French last year, especially seeing as France were rubbish against England. But to see the scared look on the faces of the AB players as they stood there and watched Jauzion score the winning try just showed up the mental cracks in the AB armour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thnk the failure at last years RWC has had a huge impact on the psyche of the Kiwi players. I don&#8217;t think they want to go through that pressure again, it must be immense for the AB players. I for one wished they had beaten the French last year, especially seeing as France were rubbish against England. But to see the scared look on the faces of the AB players as they stood there and watched Jauzion score the winning try just showed up the mental cracks in the AB armour.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheetha Champs</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816681</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheetha Champs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont know why the Kiwis insist that when a player is playing overseas, he is no longer elligible for play for the All Blacks. That rule will change next year when all of a sudden McCaw and Carter are playing in France.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know why the Kiwis insist that when a player is playing overseas, he is no longer elligible for play for the All Blacks. That rule will change next year when all of a sudden McCaw and Carter are playing in France.</p>
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		<title>By: Katsesnor</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/15/nzru-battles-to-keep-carter/#comment-816654</link>
		<dc:creator>Katsesnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a flat world (as per Thomas Friedman). Building walls to counter Globalization 3.0 is counterproductive. People and money, like water, takes the path of least resistance (best opportunities).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a flat world (as per Thomas Friedman). Building walls to counter Globalization 3.0 is counterproductive. People and money, like water, takes the path of least resistance (best opportunities).</p>
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