Bok management shocks
24 Apr 2008
Lions manager Peter Maimane is the new technical adviser for the Springboks.
Maimane, who played prop for the Bulls Vodacom Cup team, was initially offered the job of team manager or logistics manager. He turned down both, and was then offered the post of technical adviser, seemingly as an afterthought. The 36-year-old previously served as the Lions technical adviser last year and was also the Bulls manager in the Super 12 under coach Rudi Joubert.
Maimane said he was told of his appointment to the national team two weeks ago when the Lions were in Christchurch, while he added he was excited to help the Boks with technical matters. “I am a rugby person and I wanted a pure rugby appointment,” Maimane told keo.co.za from Canberra.
“My main job will be to get information on the opposition. Things such as their key decision-makers, line-outs, defence, and so on, and then to give that information to the necessary people in our team,” said Maimane.
Maimane applied for the Springboks’ managerial position in 2006 when Zola Yeye got the job instead, but is happy now to be involved in the national set-up. “I am very excited – everyone wants to serve their country at the highest level and you want to see yourself in the green and gold,” he said.
Meanwhile, Liston Ntshongwana, a prominent businessman and former diplomat, is set to be named as Springbok manager. According to members of the committee charged with appointing the national coach and his support team, the position will be a more ceremonial one than in the past.
Saru recently announced that rugby writer Andy Colquhoun would head up their communications department, but no other appointments have been officially revealed.
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24 Apr 2008, 18:36 pm
#157 saffa_guy: Saffa I think Allistair is in the right place, a better place now. He is actively involved with a team on the up and up. With a good, open-minded creative coach. He is well placed for a ‘proper” coaching position soon. And he will do well. He needs to position himself in a place where he is “next in line” not go backwards.
24 Apr 2008, 18:36 pm
208# ET
Of course they can claim to bet the best in any sports pre-1994, what are you talking about!
Naas Botha, Dingaan Thobela, Danie Gerber, ‘Loop en Val’ Matserathau, Titus Mamabola, Tap- tap Makhatini, Gerrie Coetzee, Gary Player, Wayne Ferreira, Kevin Curren, Baby Jakes, Errol Tobias, Avril Williams…you name them.
24 Apr 2008, 18:44 pm
#224 Luger: Luges – be gentle on my Lions.
24 Apr 2008, 18:48 pm
224# Luger
Not too far fetched, don’t joke about it!
It is very possible, given the rugby talent in the EC.
24 Apr 2008, 18:52 pm
hello all!!
what’s up?
Pieta, hoe lyk dinge daar waar dit ver is?
24 Apr 2008, 18:54 pm
daar kuk my battery – moet eers donnerse plug gaan soek.
24 Apr 2008, 19:06 pm
#254 Pietman: Are you ganging up on me boet?
24 Apr 2008, 20:24 pm
#252 Pietman:
It is really quite simple to counter.Not a single name mentioned by you belonged to a non-racial sporting code union, board or organisation such as SARU(the original one), SACBOC(Howa cricket org.)etc. and therefore never pitted their skills against those that played in the non-racial unions like Eric Majola, Pieter Jooste(now selector), Peter Mkata, Salie Fredericks, Cassiem Jabaar, Temba Ludwaba, the Rector of U. Stel.(I think that he still is) who played for TygerbergRU (all excellent rugby players). So how can any of your names who were not exposed to all call themselves the best. Cassius Clay(Ali) was the best because he fought and beat all of the other that thought they were better.
You slowly take 2 steps forward and then 1 & 1/2 backwards and as a result those games that Luger refers to will not take place in such an distrusting, unyielding,resistant atmosphere.
24 Apr 2008, 20:41 pm
#3 Kerneels:
So the present white coach is free of all responsibility now as the tech. advisor has a superior role to play you would leave all to believe. Too rich.
24 Apr 2008, 21:05 pm
#258 ET: ET I think you have the wrong altitude.
24 Apr 2008, 21:08 pm
#259 ET: Totally agree with you. I am a Lions fan. I am sick of Loffie’s “rebuilding” phase. Ludeke is to blame for Bulls but nobody criticizes Loffie? Seems odd to me.
24 Apr 2008, 21:13 pm
#260 SodaJoe:
Please explain.
24 Apr 2008, 21:16 pm
#262 ET: It’s a joke boet. Goes back to the Coastal thread a few days ago with Katman, WPTID, etc. Read the word again.
24 Apr 2008, 21:21 pm
#262 ET: ET I get tremendously excited to see you, Saffa, BokinNZ, Mshiniwami, etc, etc on this site. it makes it “normal” and good for rugby and diverse opinions. The site is altogether more inclusive and interesting with many point sof view.
I think what frustrates a lot of people is lack of humor and the harping on about things in the past, albeit who inequitable and wrong the past was. It’s over. Truthfully the present is now more important in every way.
So… stay in – keep saying what you think, but every now and then realize that a lot of people who read, post are pretty intelligent, very passionate and your “friends” who embrace the fact that you wear a different Tshirt.
it’s ok, just lighten up.
24 Apr 2008, 21:22 pm
SJ, I did read your post #551 last Thurs. but time then and after did not allow me to respond and the momentum was lost. From what I recall you were insinuating that I might be overlooking Black racism or reverse racism. Let me assure that as much as I abhorred racism in the past so much do I hate it today .It does not matter where it emanates from. The problem with our country is that what we really need is South Africanism and not, as in the past, Afrikaner nationalism(Nats. & worse) or as at present African nationalism(ANC). Let us just have South Africanism and people will pull together and not in opposition to each other.
24 Apr 2008, 21:26 pm
SJ, I have to rush somewhere I hope to take up the discourse later if you will allow me. Thanks.
24 Apr 2008, 21:31 pm
#265 ET: I can think of very few people on this site who would not embrace the concept of South Africanism with all their hearts.
It’s a concept with altitude.
I’m here for about an hour. Love to chat more.
24 Apr 2008, 22:47 pm
#263 SodaJoe:
I saw the word ‘altitude’which harks back to last Thurs. but deliberately focussed on the ‘wrong’ component to get an idea of your specific thinking.
24 Apr 2008, 22:54 pm
SJ, I have to mention that I noted, with much interest, that you support Leeds United and I hope that support is as strong now as it could be as I know of no other team that has been so badly maligned as the once mighty Leeds. A 1000 curses on all those responsible esp. that crook Ridsdale.
25 Apr 2008, 00:52 am
#58 RugbyStudent:
Good, honest questions RS, but I suspect you are less likely to get adequate, let alone honest, answers to your questions. It is too painful sometimes to be honest.
25 Apr 2008, 01:16 am
#269 ET: SOUL MATE!! It’s been a long hard time. Especially with the Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U brigade taking the Keo quality down. But I also support the Lions – so I think my character is deeply flawed.
25 Apr 2008, 01:27 am
#85 BokiNZ:
These guys where never ever and would not want to be linked to the S.A. Rugby Federation. These guys are true blue national players of the original non-racial S.African Rugby Union(SARU). And black Springboks is not our term. The colours where black with a gold collar and this national team would play against most time the non-racial WP ( C.T., who were most times the national champs) or Kwaru(Kwazakhela,P.E.) or City and Suburban(Athlone,C.T.) or EP. Federation was the then sell-out body who allowed the white national body to use them to window dress the racist situation. However, there was no Kwaru in Eric Majola’s time and so he played for the non-racial EP team as did his son Khaya in cricket. The Majola family were also provincial table tennis players for EP.
25 Apr 2008, 01:32 am
#272 ET: Interesting. I know Wikipietman will dig this. Now play nice. He’s a very good dude. With a massive interest in empowering non-racial rugby TODAY.
Yesterday is yesterday my friend.
25 Apr 2008, 01:32 am
#271 SodaJoe:
Hey don’t give up on Leeds they are coming good again and are likely to be in Div. 1 next year. They have been my team since the days of Billy Bremner and his wonderful band of warriors. They are the only English team I ever have followed the fortunes of and I check there progress on cyber every day as I do with WPStormers.
25 Apr 2008, 01:36 am
That is why I said positive things about his desire to know the past.
Remember a knowledge of our past dictates the future road we want to travel and how we get there. Cultural ignorance only breeds distrust.
25 Apr 2008, 01:41 am
#274 ET: I am 46. I have supported Leeds (for better and some very worse) for 39 years. My Ruby (aaargh ****** Red) anniversary is next year. I started because of Albert Johanson.
Loved it when the Chief ruled the Yorkshire dales (and still does in many areas) and what we would give to have Philemon Masinga in a Bafana jersey now.
ET – it’s very hard to drive always looking in the rear-view mirror.
25 Apr 2008, 01:52 am
Amazingly Albert was associated with Jhb football and not CT which is what one would expect and in fact all Saffers associated with Leeds have Jhb. connections like the Chief, Masinga, Hartze and Rascid Khan.
25 Apr 2008, 02:00 am
Brother you need to go to sleep. Unless you’re still marking papers. But I am sure you have lectures in the morning.
I am about to go and drink some good red wine. (just for a change).
ET – it’s very hard to drive always looking in the rear-view mirror. Just thought I would drop that in again.
25 Apr 2008, 02:01 am
#277 ET: PS who are Hartze and Rashid Khan? I don’t know them.
25 Apr 2008, 02:12 am
Bernard Hartze and Rashid Khan were exciting Jhb. boys who played for a very successful Cape Town Spurs which was my team of the ’70s and early ’80s. Both were on trial and offered contracts to play for Leeds but could not adjust to the then very cold and snowy England. Global warming has now made the winter less severe.
25 Apr 2008, 02:12 am
#280 ET: OK now have a good dos.
25 Apr 2008, 03:51 am
#85 BokiNZ:
Again to this post, it seems to me you are confusing the non-racial Soccer Federation with the sell-out Rugby Federation(Errol Tobias,Dougie Dyers etc.).
The national non-racial rugby union was the original South African Rugby Union(SARU).
25 Apr 2008, 05:22 am
282# Bok
That’s what I thought, after our discussion over the past few weeks….the original SARU that PdeV played for.
25 Apr 2008, 06:42 am
#116 BokiNZ: and #94 Pietman etc.
Let me provide the missing link in the history of S.African rugby :
The original national, non-racial South African Rugby Union(SARU) was in every sense(accept money) the equivalent of Danie Craven(and others’) racist S.African Rugby Booard(SARB). The earliest and oldest unions were WPRU(non-racial), Boland, E.Province, SWDistricts, Griquas, Border,Tvl., Tygerberg(CT northern suburbs),City & Suburban(Cape Flats/Athlone), W.Prov Board(Langa ,Gugs. & Nyanga), Kwaru(‘Zakhela,New Brighton, PE), Natal(small & weak) and unions along the Cape West coast and Namakwaland amongst others.
W.Prov Board(Lagunya) had a small breakaway faction which barely formed the Leopards(Linton in this article, Cushe and Dolly Ntaka etc.) to sometimes play touring teams like ’72 England(John Pullin), 1974 Br. Lions(Willie John McBride’s noble Warriors),etc.
Also the SA Rugby Federation another small breakaway only in the rural W.Cape(Dougie Dyers,E.Tobias etc.) formed the Proteas to play touring teams because of the world-wide pressure that was developing against Craven’s SARB.
The guys you mentioned in your posts all came from orig. SARU affiliates like Kwaru with the exception of Eric Majola because in his playing days there was no Kwaru ,so he played for EP who are older than Kwaru for whom Cheeky and his brother Valence played.
Pietman you should know that U.Stel’s. Rector was a Saru cap and a Tygerberg capt. and #9.
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