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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-828120</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonah Lomu first came to prominence in Sevens. His talent might well have gone unnoticed but for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonah Lomu first came to prominence in Sevens. His talent might well have gone unnoticed but for that.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAnotherFan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-828095</link>
		<dc:creator>JustAnotherFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#16. Hey &quot;Simple Simon&quot;, if which dream did you have a friend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16. Hey &#8220;Simple Simon&#8221;, if which dream did you have a friend?</p>
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		<title>By: miteemunkee</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-828071</link>
		<dc:creator>miteemunkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol, I makes me mad... :-P  &quot;It&quot; makes me mad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I makes me mad&#8230; <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8220;It&#8221; makes me mad</p>
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		<title>By: miteemunkee</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-828070</link>
		<dc:creator>miteemunkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I makes me mad when people attack sevens rugby for no reason.  Play sevens for sevens sake.  I think it is a great sport and a lot of fun to watch, who cares if sevens benefits 15&#039;s or not...  I would like to see better players play 7&#039;s more often and that is one reason I am excited for kabamba to play 7&#039;s again.  7&#039;s should be in the olympics, it is fun to watch, and it makes money so stop attacking the sport and enjoy it for what it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I makes me mad when people attack sevens rugby for no reason.  Play sevens for sevens sake.  I think it is a great sport and a lot of fun to watch, who cares if sevens benefits 15&#8242;s or not&#8230;  I would like to see better players play 7&#8242;s more often and that is one reason I am excited for kabamba to play 7&#8242;s again.  7&#8242;s should be in the olympics, it is fun to watch, and it makes money so stop attacking the sport and enjoy it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: molla</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-828048</link>
		<dc:creator>molla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[16
when compared with an ape]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16<br />
when compared with an ape</p>
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		<title>By: McSchalkBurger</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827738</link>
		<dc:creator>McSchalkBurger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article should not have been written! Why go look for a storm in calm water? I enjoy watching sevens when it&#039;s on!! Just leave the bloody game alone dammit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article should not have been written! Why go look for a storm in calm water? I enjoy watching sevens when it&#8217;s on!! Just leave the bloody game alone dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827526</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, my friends call me Simon &quot;Razor Sharp&quot; Borchardt because I have an abnormally high IQ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, my friends call me Simon &#8220;Razor Sharp&#8221; Borchardt because I have an abnormally high IQ.</p>
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		<title>By: Windhoek.Lager</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827370</link>
		<dc:creator>Windhoek.Lager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-827363&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14 saffa_guy&lt;/a&gt;: Yep, pretty much have to agree with saffa_guy.

Then again, to his credit Simon has never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer and, by gum, he&#039;s right!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-827363" rel="nofollow">14 saffa_guy</a>: Yep, pretty much have to agree with saffa_guy.</p>
<p>Then again, to his credit Simon has never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer and, by gum, he&#8217;s right!</p>
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		<title>By: saffa_guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>saffa_guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another &quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;journalistic&quot;&quot;&quot; piece by Simple Simon the local JJ Harmse &amp; Stephen Bullard hybrid. Previous works has been such utter tripe not even gonna bother scanning this piece. Rather gonna go scan Die Son for works of somewhat superior quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another &#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;journalistic&#8221;"&#8221; piece by Simple Simon the local JJ Harmse &amp; Stephen Bullard hybrid. Previous works has been such utter tripe not even gonna bother scanning this piece. Rather gonna go scan Die Son for works of somewhat superior quality.</p>
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		<title>By: halfgk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827289</link>
		<dc:creator>halfgk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Does Sevens justify the time and money invested in it by Saru and Sasol?&quot; The most idiotic remark I&#039;ve heard in a long time. The question should be &quot;Does Saru and Sasol promote sevens enough to justify the money invested in it?&quot;. Players are after the big bucks and fame. That&#039;s the 15 man game. Offer the same in 7&#039;s and you can keep your players and build on them. I would love it if 7&#039;s got more tv coverage, because it&#039;s really exciting to watch. But most people don&#039;t watch a match if they don&#039;t know the players. The same goes for 15&#039;s, most Sharks\Bulls\Stormers supporters won&#039;t watch a Cheetahs\Lions game becasue they might not know the players. 7&#039;s is developing into it&#039;s own game. Good 7&#039;s players are not necesarily good in the 15 game, and vice versa.
On a diffirent note, the only reason Basson didn&#039;t make it at the Bulls, was beacuse they were too stupid to see the guy was better than anything else they had in their backline. He is an exciting player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does Sevens justify the time and money invested in it by Saru and Sasol?&#8221; The most idiotic remark I&#8217;ve heard in a long time. The question should be &#8220;Does Saru and Sasol promote sevens enough to justify the money invested in it?&#8221;. Players are after the big bucks and fame. That&#8217;s the 15 man game. Offer the same in 7&#8242;s and you can keep your players and build on them. I would love it if 7&#8242;s got more tv coverage, because it&#8217;s really exciting to watch. But most people don&#8217;t watch a match if they don&#8217;t know the players. The same goes for 15&#8242;s, most Sharks\Bulls\Stormers supporters won&#8217;t watch a Cheetahs\Lions game becasue they might not know the players. 7&#8242;s is developing into it&#8217;s own game. Good 7&#8242;s players are not necesarily good in the 15 game, and vice versa.<br />
On a diffirent note, the only reason Basson didn&#8217;t make it at the Bulls, was beacuse they were too stupid to see the guy was better than anything else they had in their backline. He is an exciting player.</p>
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		<title>By: zoeloe shark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827287</link>
		<dc:creator>zoeloe shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee Simon, your attack on 7s has been relentless. Give it a rest. The one suggestion I do have is to play the SA leg in a proper stadium, with a proper festival atmosphere. Durban in December would be flippen great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Simon, your attack on 7s has been relentless. Give it a rest. The one suggestion I do have is to play the SA leg in a proper stadium, with a proper festival atmosphere. Durban in December would be flippen great.</p>
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		<title>By: tight head</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827268</link>
		<dc:creator>tight head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sevens is a game that should have nothing to do with the 15 man game.
The last place I would send an up and coming youngster in the 15 man game is to sevens.
They learn more bad habits then good ones.
Promising youngsters must play 15 man rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sevens is a game that should have nothing to do with the 15 man game.<br />
The last place I would send an up and coming youngster in the 15 man game is to sevens.<br />
They learn more bad habits then good ones.<br />
Promising youngsters must play 15 man rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: beer boy</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827230</link>
		<dc:creator>beer boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i honestly think sevens is a waste if you play guys like demas and neil powell. use it to give the talented youngsters a go. players like the ebershon twins, wilton peterson, watermeyer, dippenar, matt turner and de jongh. all these players are future bok canadates so why not let them play all over the world and in front of huge crowds on an internatonal level??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i honestly think sevens is a waste if you play guys like demas and neil powell. use it to give the talented youngsters a go. players like the ebershon twins, wilton peterson, watermeyer, dippenar, matt turner and de jongh. all these players are future bok canadates so why not let them play all over the world and in front of huge crowds on an internatonal level??</p>
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		<title>By: Steel Shark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827206</link>
		<dc:creator>Steel Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really see the big deal most major rugby countries treat 7&#039;s exactly the same Australia, New Zealand, England, France etc.

Fabian Juries... man that guy had talent it&#039;s probably too late for him but still would be interesting to see him back in the 15 man game agian one day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see the big deal most major rugby countries treat 7&#8242;s exactly the same Australia, New Zealand, England, France etc.</p>
<p>Fabian Juries&#8230; man that guy had talent it&#8217;s probably too late for him but still would be interesting to see him back in the 15 man game agian one day.</p>
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		<title>By: kaksioek</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827195</link>
		<dc:creator>kaksioek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story made a lot more sense before the Boks beat the Kiwis in the final in Adelaide and underlined their No.2 status. How many other sports are South Africa No.2 in? This season the Bok Sevens team is performing consistently better than any of our Super 14 teams, apart from maybe the Sharks. The time and money invested by Saru and Sasol is obviously well justified.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story made a lot more sense before the Boks beat the Kiwis in the final in Adelaide and underlined their No.2 status. How many other sports are South Africa No.2 in? This season the Bok Sevens team is performing consistently better than any of our Super 14 teams, apart from maybe the Sharks. The time and money invested by Saru and Sasol is obviously well justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Stavros Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827173</link>
		<dc:creator>Stavros Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-827171&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;6 Simon&lt;/a&gt;: 

Simon, that is not the point at all.

Of course they would make the team and certainly they would both deserve it. And yes I can think of others too. But so what?

My point is that we are probably getting ahead of ourselves if we truly believe that quotas in sport are now a thing of the past. I&#039;ll believe it when I see it. 

I am not attacking you here, I think you get enough of that from others on a bad day; I&#039;m debating one comment...

&quot;Saru would have no choice but to make the country’s best players available&quot;

Saru would definitely still have a choice. And I&#039;d expect they would exercise it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-827171" rel="nofollow">6 Simon</a>: </p>
<p>Simon, that is not the point at all.</p>
<p>Of course they would make the team and certainly they would both deserve it. And yes I can think of others too. But so what?</p>
<p>My point is that we are probably getting ahead of ourselves if we truly believe that quotas in sport are now a thing of the past. I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it. </p>
<p>I am not attacking you here, I think you get enough of that from others on a bad day; I&#8217;m debating one comment&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Saru would have no choice but to make the country’s best players available&#8221;</p>
<p>Saru would definitely still have a choice. And I&#8217;d expect they would exercise it.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Habana and Chavhanga would both make an Olympic Sevens team on merit, and I can think of a few others too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Habana and Chavhanga would both make an Olympic Sevens team on merit, and I can think of a few others too.</p>
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		<title>By: stofjas</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827168</link>
		<dc:creator>stofjas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asking around and most of my friends do tend to watch the sevens games when it is on tv, live or on repeat.  the reason no-one seems to care about if the boks loses against tonga is that you have to realise that sevens is a mercurial game where just one loose pass can cost you a game without time and bring it back. the whole game is played in &quot;injury time&quot;
one of the reasons sevens in south africa is not doing as well as in other countries supporters wise is that the SA leg is in crappy George.  Shit, there were more people at a recent lions home game than there were at the george sevens.  it&#039;s not in a venue where anyone really cares.  take it back to stellenbosch like the old winfield 7&#039;s used to be. That used to be a party, not unlike the games at twickers, adelaide etc etc.  SARU is shooting sevens in the foot by shoving it to some backwater.  when overseas people look at the broadcast from george they will only be under the impression that rugby is only watched by white, overweight middle aged men, which george seemed to mostly made up of.  Looks like in george, aFter matric, bring on the boep, the checkered shirt, the socks pulled up to under the knees and pattern baldness!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking around and most of my friends do tend to watch the sevens games when it is on tv, live or on repeat.  the reason no-one seems to care about if the boks loses against tonga is that you have to realise that sevens is a mercurial game where just one loose pass can cost you a game without time and bring it back. the whole game is played in &#8220;injury time&#8221;<br />
one of the reasons sevens in south africa is not doing as well as in other countries supporters wise is that the SA leg is in crappy George.  <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>, there were more people at a recent lions home game than there were at the george sevens.  it&#8217;s not in a venue where anyone really cares.  take it back to stellenbosch like the old winfield 7&#8242;s used to be. That used to be a party, not unlike the games at twickers, adelaide etc etc.  SARU is shooting sevens in the foot by shoving it to some backwater.  when overseas people look at the broadcast from george they will only be under the impression that rugby is only watched by white, overweight middle aged men, which george seemed to mostly made up of.  Looks like in george, aFter matric, bring on the boep, the checkered shirt, the socks pulled up to under the knees and pattern baldness!</p>
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		<title>By: Stavros Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/04/25/the-sevens-debate/#comment-827166</link>
		<dc:creator>Stavros Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whilst that may be so that is just one small part of the Olympic team to represent the country. 

You need to look at the FULL SA team being sent over. 

Consider our hockey team&#039;s past experiences as an example... 

Where transformation is most active, that is where you will find the hardest pressing for quotas, which we know does not always lead to the very best players being picked. And rugby is certainly in the spotlight. Not swimming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst that may be so that is just one small part of the Olympic team to represent the country. </p>
<p>You need to look at the FULL SA team being sent over. </p>
<p>Consider our hockey team&#8217;s past experiences as an example&#8230; </p>
<p>Where transformation is most active, that is where you will find the hardest pressing for quotas, which we know does not always lead to the very best players being picked. And rugby is certainly in the spotlight. Not swimming.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Er ... our Olympic committee recently approved an all-white swimming team for Beijing (21 swimmers, if I remember correctly)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er &#8230; our Olympic committee recently approved an all-white swimming team for Beijing (21 swimmers, if I remember correctly)</p>
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