Fighting Venter to inspire Boks
4 Jun 2008
Former Bok flanker Andre Venter will present the matchday 22 with their Springbok jerseys on Friday.
The Free State hardman performed this duty ahead of last year’s Test season opener against England. The Boks won 58-10 and both John Smit and Jake White lauded Venter’s simple yet powerful message the day before the match.
Bok coach Peter de Villiers was just as thrilled to have Venter accepting the invitation. After 66 Tests for the Boks Venter was confined to a wheelchair in 2006 due to a crippling virus. Despite his disability, he still manages to inspire so many.
“Andre was the obvious choice to present the jerseys to the guys,” said De Villiers. “We are very honoured that he accepted our invitation.
“He was the model Springbok during his career, and his bravery and courage in dealing with the tough cards life has dealt him since his retirement serve as inspiration to us all.
“I could think of no-one better to launch our four-year journey than him.”
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4 Jun 2008, 19:55 pm
#47 RugbyStudent: Ask the Bulls that, not me…. I was begging for Mangweni’s inclusion as well.
I was hoping to high hell that the Bulls would have used Heinie Adams more as well and lamented the fact that quality like him should play in an off-form Fourie du Preez’s shadow….
Merit, my dear fellow, not colour, that is the only correct measure……… form any viewpoint……
Now, with the Bokke, the same questions are asked…. why Bolla in stead of Kokkerot… why not Barrit / Walter Venter in stead of AD Jacobs….
It’s about what is right and wrong, not about what’s politically correct or which Province the coach happens to like.
………. and yeah, you’re a racist swine, it’s clear from your posts !
4 Jun 2008, 19:56 pm
Stop feeding the racially insecure trolls.
4 Jun 2008, 20:02 pm
#44 RugbyStudent:
Oh, and by the way….Snorre WILL BE REMEMBERED for the Wales Test, should his Team be the 1 st ever Bokke team to lose to Wales at home…. that you can be freegin sure of……..
4 Jun 2008, 20:09 pm
Andre Venter really was a true rugby great and, by all measures, Juan Smith is turning into a player of the same mould.
A tough, uncompromising flank that does all the hard work and needs none of the limelight. Smith will go down as a legend in years to come. He is a vital part of our loose trio. I would say even as much as Schalk.
4 Jun 2008, 20:15 pm
If there are 2 loosies of yesteryear that I miss……… it could only be the following 2:
Andre Venter
Ruben Kruger
4 Jun 2008, 20:19 pm
There is nothing quite like that grafter loosie that you never see, but gets in such a huge workload. Venter and Kruger are perfect examples.
It’s interesting as they both played for successful spring bok teams. I can’t think of another post-isolation coach who identified a really good blindside flank and stuck with him. Maybe someone can help me out there..
4 Jun 2008, 20:26 pm
#30 4man:
What ‘cerebral’ component are you referring to when you cannot even comprehend “up to 3 teams”. You might need a micrscope to actually see it to measure it. Which part of ‘up to 3′ can you not understand. If anything far too many of bloggers deliberately distort to bolster their weak, perverted points far too often and that can surely be psychologically measured.
4 Jun 2008, 20:32 pm
#57
Just to make a point on this argument. Stating that up to 3 teams will make the semis is pretty pointless as no teams could make it and you would still be right. What would be the point of making that statement?
In any event, all that counts is who did make it. Nobody remembers who came fourth, let alone fifth or sixth.
4 Jun 2008, 20:37 pm
#43 grootblousmile:
Someone like you only supports a PdeV with a knbife in your hand hidden behind your back just waiting to plunge it into the body. I will not be surprised if you actually do not wish that the game is lost despite the seeming pain you may temporarily suffer. With supporters like you especially, Div. needs no enemies.
4 Jun 2008, 20:38 pm
To wear a Bok 6,7 or 8 you have to be special. We produce outstanding big fast Loosies by the Dozen. Another reason we struggle for balance sometimes.
To be rememberd as a great among greats is special. Venter, Kruger and Teichman were fantastic. Ruben Kruger was our best player on the field in the 1995 world cup.
4 Jun 2008, 20:39 pm
The ***** slapping going on here at the moment belongs on a village people supporters blog.
4 Jun 2008, 20:39 pm
#59 ET:
should read knife.
4 Jun 2008, 20:40 pm
ET
Wait till you see Keo’s article on IOL today. Then you will REALLY flip your lids.
He absolutely rips Piet Snor apart for his foot in mouth escapades in the last few weeks. Don’t get me wrong, Keo, being his liberal self still urges everyone to back Piet Snor, but boy was it nice to see discord in the camp of the proverbial enemy when I read that article.
Don’t worry, however. As is Keo’s pattern, he will rip Piet Snor apart for a while, meet up with him mid-way through his term, kiss and make up, and then get the rights to the Piet Snor-biography.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
4 Jun 2008, 20:41 pm
Or large *****.
4 Jun 2008, 20:44 pm
No-one in Bok History has made as many damaging statements as White Tacitus. The final straw was watching him on tv licking bottom for the English job, not realising that Woodward had long since lost favour by going over to the sport of the anti-******, and then being spat out their.
PDV is doing fine. He should just shave.
4 Jun 2008, 20:47 pm
#65 voshd:
You won’t find me disagreeing with that. White said so many stupid things that he is way ahead of De Villiers in that respect. But then, White had four years to build up his lead. Piet Snor has only had a couple of months, but he seems to be catching up real fast.
4 Jun 2008, 20:50 pm
#63 Tacitus:
People like even Keo have their own hidden agendas and constantly steal ideas off the blogs to curry favour with and /or placate many different groups of peolple on the blogs and elsewhere. So I am not surprised. I saw the headline but choose not to read it. Will probably do so now as you have stimulated my inquisitiveness.
4 Jun 2008, 20:55 pm
#59 ET: I had the same knife behind my back against Jake when he was stubborn and had foot in mouth disease….. yet he came good in the end and hopefully it partly had something to do with the critisism he received on the way.
In the end Jake delivered the WC Trophy, something I’ll always be grateful for.
Who on this blog would ever forget my posts about “Jake the Snake” when he was off line during 2006 and early 2007?
That same knife was being sharpened against Frans Ludeke this season as well…… and the jury is still out whether my “knife” will be used to help end his tenure at the Bulls……. the last 4 matched has bought him a bit of a reprieve for now.
Look man, no coach is perfect and every coach needs to be kept grounded, so critisism is fair…….. and if all goes to plan then Peter Snorre will learn from the critisism and adapt in a positive manner.
One thing you must NEVER expect from old grootblousmile is that he will accept mediocrity……… NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRR !
I’m behind Peter Snorre, will assess him carefully and start judging / praising him during the Tri Nations………. accept it or get lost !
4 Jun 2008, 20:56 pm
Read Keos Article. Oh Dear.
How would the Boks have done without Eddie Jones? The World Cup should not stop us from being critical about Whites mistakes. And their were many. If you believe White was some kind of saint I for one do not. De Villiers does not like White, so what. I hasten to add that White when told that he briefly mentioned PDV in his book replied by saying, ‘Oh did I? I shouldn’t have…’
4 Jun 2008, 20:58 pm
When you are a public figure public judgement comes with the territory. PDV will get knocked down or knifed when he loses just as every single one before him has.
4 Jun 2008, 21:00 pm
#69 voshd:
It’s the Watson issue that divides them, I reckon. De Villiers thinks Watson is a saint. White knows he is a snake in the grass.
4 Jun 2008, 21:09 pm
#68 grootblousmile:
I would love to believe much of what you have posted there but my experiences on Keo reminds me of very many negative and derogatory things you post her and that is where I have to hesitate. But in fairness to you I will not prejudge you here and will watch with interest your reaction. Accept from me, that if Div makes stupid changes for example like Muir did for the Sharks semi I will also be critcal of him. For me the game is always bigger than the team and the team bigger than the player etc.
4 Jun 2008, 21:12 pm
yes white showed his true character when he bluntly refused to pick watson at a time when he was truly the best flanker in SA
4 Jun 2008, 21:14 pm
Andre Venter a beast of a man and a rugby legend
4 Jun 2008, 21:16 pm
#72 ET:
I do not live for your recognition or respect ET……….. so get lost anyway……
You’ve been nothing but a total d@@s with a chppie on the shoulder here on the blogs, so I will not lose sleep due to your lack of acceptance……….. in fact, your opinion is not needed, thanks !
4 Jun 2008, 21:20 pm
#73 molla:
Totally correct you are Molla and to rub salt into the wound he selected Solly Tyibilika instead of Watson. he will not be forgiven for that diabolical act.
4 Jun 2008, 21:30 pm
#75 grootblousmile:
I have never asked for your respect and you should not expect any from me but I am glad to have forced you to placate yourself in no uncertain manner. You have just confirmed that you are an absolute skunk as my thoughts above intimated. The discussion is closed. So rant on if you will as you are no different from a cheap, ‘skinderbek wasvrou’ or ‘skollie’.
4 Jun 2008, 21:40 pm
#75 Gbs
Do you realise you suffer from that dreaded psychotic disease called schizophrenia? You should seriously consider no longer abusing what few Betz cells you now have left.
4 Jun 2008, 21:59 pm
#78 ET:
Are you Ethiger?
4 Jun 2008, 21:59 pm
#63 Tacitus:
I have read that article and it really does not add to much. Gives me the impression that Keo got a negative response for a request and did not like it so now needs to spew off about anything.
By his own reasoning he has no right himself ( let alone you or me) to any rugby opinion because he will not ever qualify to coach a Bok team let alone one in the 3N or the WC for that matter.
However, he may have already sown the first seeds for the team not to play for the coach in large numbers(so fragile is the Rainbow nation, whatever that means) and if that happens they may as well cancel his contract before the 2nd Welsh test. Keo is always a chameleon as whatever he wants to be to the rugby people he will be that colour. It is called promoting his cause.
4 Jun 2008, 22:00 pm
#79 Tacitus:
I do not know who that is.
4 Jun 2008, 22:05 pm
#81 ET:
Just a guy who used to post here with very similar attitudes to yours. I think he was banned eventually.
4 Jun 2008, 22:11 pm
The way I see it is PDV almost has the same CV that Jake White hda when he started as Springbok Coach and there also was daughts on wheather he was up to the job. Give PDV a brake he has earned my respect!
4 Jun 2008, 22:15 pm
why
give him
a brake
then
rather let him
roll
4 Jun 2008, 22:26 pm
How about waiting and see what the team achives under him and then give comentary. Since when are you people coaching specialists? I do not see any of youre names in any provincial or international coaching team!
4 Jun 2008, 22:40 pm
#82 Tacitus:
Does that now mean I have to be ultra-careful or am I already gone? I have already not been so positive about that Keo article which I note is the newest thread here now.
4 Jun 2008, 22:59 pm
Very few players match Andre Venter in my book.The defenition of uncompromising.So many great memories of him playing. And it wasnt that long ago he was charging around.Must be a daily fight just to get around now and do normal sort of stuff in a wheelchair after being such an incredible sportsperson. He will be up for it for sure though. I know he will give the guys a lift.He continues to be an inspiration to myself for his stamina in these very hard yards.What a man.Respect.
5 Jun 2008, 05:42 am
Jissie RugbyStudent, jy is n rassisties pyn in die gat!
Waar het jy gelees dat mense sedert Januarie rassistiese opmerkings oor PdeV maak hier op keo?
Jy, ET en een of twee ander is net daarop uit om kwaad te stook, iets wat ons nie SA nodig het nie, nie nou nie.
Alles wat jy dink en se is op kleur gerig.
5 Jun 2008, 09:19 am
Tacticus
It belonged to Nic Pretorius.
Who is your family connected to ?
5 Jun 2008, 09:27 am
KWAGGA009
Yes, I am. What do you want for it ?
5 Jun 2008, 14:04 pm
#88 Pietman:
As can be expected ‘vuil uil’ coming to the defence of your buddy ‘skollie’(Gbs) are you not?
Who really cares what you think? Your ‘skollie group(and every one knows who you are) are simply Trailer trash whose only claim to fame in life is that you played rugby at mediocre club level and you performed in the most discredited army in the world. Why not try further unravelling the genome so that you can better understand how that brain that has been so pickled by alcoholic consumption really works.
6 Jun 2008, 11:00 am
#91 ET:
Eish, some serious adjectives in that little prose….hang on, let me get a dictionary !!!!
Btw, you don’t use that dirty mouth in any lecturing capacity, I hope, like in teaching….
7 Jun 2008, 04:34 am
#92 Pietman:
Not my fault if your vocabulary is as limited as it is. And you clearly do not, in the English language, know the difference between a noun, verb, an adverb or an adjective. Those sentences have all those and for your education be informed that an adverb modifies/qualifies a verb and an adjective qualifies a noun and genome is a noun and unravelling is a verb,the loaned Afrikaans words are colloquial nouns and so on and so forth. As for ‘dirty’ you clearly do not know what the word means. What is dirty about ‘vuil uil’ or ‘skollie’ and do you remember all those Afrikaans swear words that your group are so limited in using when emotionally disturbed which is on a daily basis. A clear case of the pot(black) calling the kettle(shining silver) black. You and your buddies are just a very bad S.African anachronism. Who really takes you all seriously except yourselves? You are grossly unconvincing always and do never pull the wool over my eyes ever. So get lost
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