Kiwi wrap (Fri)
19 Jun 2008
Keo.co.za brings you the latest news from New Zealand.
Tialata tired of tough talk
Neemia Tialata can’t wait to have a crack at Matt Stevens after the English prop criticised the All Blacks scrum.
Speaking to rugbyheaven.co.nz, Tialata said these kinds of battles should be fought on the paddock, not in the papers. But if Stevens wants to talk the talk, he’d better be able to walk the walk.
“If you’re going to come out and bag the opposition or the player you’re up against, you’ve got to be able to back it up. So I’m here, I’m waiting. We know they’re going to bring it. It’s a good challenge.”
Tialata is relishing a utility scrummaging role, but is still keen to brush up on the other aspects of his game.
“I love (running with the ball),” he said. “It used to be my focus coming through the age-grades. I’d try to get my hands on the ball whenever I could. But in this environment you do your job first, you do the little things. Then when I do get my hands on ball I’ll give it my all.”

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20 Jun 2008, 09:24 am
#50 molly:
Agreed!
20 Jun 2008, 09:25 am
#50 molly: I think its because in general people do not understand the reality of what Rape is and its consequences! I have many friends who work at Rape crisis and FAMSA, who deal with the consequences daily and often they have to see kwaks themselves to get over the trauma they have to assist some women and men through!
20 Jun 2008, 10:07 am
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20 Jun 2008, 10:14 am
The charges have been dropped after the boy friend handed the police his ‘girl friend’ a blowup doll, which be had loaned to the English lads who wanted to make a porn movie. He reported them because they had not washed her… before returning it to him.
20 Jun 2008, 10:22 am
It’s irresponsible to assume the girl wasn’t raped because she had consensual *** with one, or even more, of the players. Everyone here seems happy to fall into that trap. And rapists often get off scot-free because of this “promiscuity” defense.
She could have had *** with a player and then been raped by others. Or she could have decided not to go through with it at all and been raped by the guy who thought he was owed something.
I don’t know what happened and I’m not about to crucify anyone one hearsay. But I’m also not prepared to exonerate a rapist simply because his victim “was gagging for it”.
20 Jun 2008, 11:27 am
#21 Big Hit: why do you keep harping on about 7/8th place, we were losers at the world cup just like your team, doesnt matter were you finish if you dont win it …….
like a dog with a tiny little scrap on a bone huh Big *** ??
your only as good as your last game, and your English team were shite ??? truth hurts doesnt it …. (waiting for the , its not our strongest team sob) even with your strongest team in the AI’s as you refer, we would have had a whole season to gel and find combinations, so we will put your 1st string side (if you ever play them, but then, that would mean fronting up, and we all know how the English go there, look at gallipoli. fine English planning there ) to the sword as well……how is your padded cell this evening ??
20 Jun 2008, 11:30 am
29 KiaKahaNZ Well, we now know that this story is a steamy pile of horse manure… NZ doesn’t have any women attractive enough to be called a model
20 Jun 2008, 11:40 am
#57 seamus: You’re kidding, or you’re dumb. NZ is knee-deep in complete ******* like Kylie Bax, Rachel Hunter, Jeanette Thomas, the cute little TV3 weather nymphette…
They’re everywhere!
20 Jun 2008, 11:54 am
#58 TheTackler:
Who are these people?
20 Jun 2008, 12:12 pm
#59 Dawn: Having gewgled them, I can tell you that Kylie Bax is a girl that doesn’t own a single item of clothing that’s not at least 70% see-through. Could be a NZ textile quality issue though. Rachel Hunter has a similar problem and often seems to abandon her clothes altogether as a result. Both have well developed mamaries – possibly an evolutionary result of this continued exposure for warmth and protection. Not sure. Jeanette Thomas is way more obscure and I think she’s Tackler personal tissue girl.
20 Jun 2008, 12:20 pm
Tackler, you strike me as a weak man. Compared to SA, NZ has very few ‘*******’. I’m one of them, and I don’t meet too many of my kind…
20 Jun 2008, 12:28 pm
#59 Dawn: Rachel was an international supermodel who was once wedded to Rod Stewart and did the whole Playboy centrefold thing and all. Kylie too. Jeanette hosts the consumer-rights show “Target” on TV3 and that super-cute little TV3 weather babe is… gosh, I’ve forgotten her name!
No, it’s come back to me. It’s Toni Marsh. Very attractive wee minx!
20 Jun 2008, 12:49 pm
#61 TheTackler: You have used the words knee deep and can only mention 3 attractive( not stunning at all ) women. Spent an hour in any of the malls and you will see hundreds of even better looking girls/women. In SA they are the rule in NZ the odd exception. Problem with kiwi women is they think they are so liberated they do not even want to look like a woman – fat, foulmouthed, no make up and short dike-like blond spiky hair and black clothes. But as they say beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
20 Jun 2008, 13:20 pm
#62 petoors: I could mention 333, but everyone reading this would lose interest. So three will have to do.
20 Jun 2008, 13:54 pm
I cant wait to see the Kiwis taking the English “Angel Barbie” style this weekend and putting 70 points past them.
Nothing like a raping your women to get a nation angry at you. Will the English never learn.
Go the BLACKS !
20 Jun 2008, 14:48 pm
58 TheTackler – I’ve been to NZ more time than I can remember and have only seen one or two fairly decent chicks in all that time. They are even uglier than the Highlanders pack.
20 Jun 2008, 16:02 pm
#52 GirlShark:
You better prepare yourself for Aus because if you watch AFL you are going to be watching an increadiable number of people who have been up on rape charges. Rugby league is not much better.
Prepare to be appalled at how much winning is put first
20 Jun 2008, 16:09 pm
#58 TheTackler:
bwhahahaha
knee deep in swamp donkeys!atually shoulder deep!
since when are you into girls?
dont they find it odd that you still live with your mom?
20 Jun 2008, 16:13 pm
#55 katman:
Agree.
US military have had 278 soldiers on rape charges in the Philippines alone!
Succesful convictions = 6!
Rape is serious **** and jumping to one conclusion or another does not help at all. You would have to be a complete twathead to say for a fact that something didn’t happen when the facts arn’t out yet just because it is the team you support.
20 Jun 2008, 16:16 pm
It is pretty sick how a discussion on rape got turned into how attractive people are!
20 Jun 2008, 17:08 pm
#58 TheTackler: Tackler, its no surprise you repeatedly name the same 3 women, proving everyone else’s point, way to go.
#62 petoors:
#68 church – like chch but pronounceable: there hasn’t been a formal complaint, all you’re doing is speculating on speculation and trying to draw a negative inference.
20 Jun 2008, 17:25 pm
#62 petoors:
bwhahahaha.classic!brings back memories from my holidays in nz.
20 Jun 2008, 17:35 pm
#68 chch, true don’t have stats but the brit army in africa have numerous rape or gang rape charges pending. o too the UN forces. can’t sweep this abuse of human right aside just because we have the power.
20 Jun 2008, 17:38 pm
I googled toni marsh.
sure she is a nice person but not a stunner by any stretch of the imagination.
dont believe me?go check her out.
tackler you must be getting blind from whacking off to those All Black team photos.
she is average
20 Jun 2008, 18:59 pm
Is this the same Toni Marsh that played for France?
20 Jun 2008, 22:29 pm
#73 Fern: She’s a hottie.
20 Jun 2008, 23:29 pm
#48 GirlShark: hey look, I would never ever support the rape thing either, point is this, she went back to the room, then about 4 others joined them, things got a bit wayward, and someone wanted to play tag wrestling aong the way – yeah, they certanly stepped over the line, and should be dealt to accordingly.
I was more referring to the soft nature of a little snuggle under the duvet, so stop being so dam precious about that intention.
21 Jun 2008, 00:30 am
#76 KiaKahaNZ: you don’t know if any of that is true, so why are you quoting it as fact?
21 Jun 2008, 02:22 am
Still.. “Angel Barbie”, hey? And the poor naive Poms fell for that one? Jeez, you’d make a blimmin fortune selling insurance policies amongst that lot, hey?
For only fifty quid you’re covered for life against any blood loss occasioned by being bitten by a donkey anytime in the prime donkey-biting hours of 2am and 4am in South Western Patagonia. That’s within a 1000km radius of the Taj Mahal.
Just sign here…
And give me your fifty quid. Yes, those green folding ones will do very nicely.
It’s been a pleasure doing business with you, my English friend !
21 Jun 2008, 02:48 am
yo Tackler, shut up, good lad
21 Jun 2008, 02:51 am
#79 Big Hit: Hit you where it hurts?
21 Jun 2008, 03:16 am
And this, from a reliable South African and therefore impartial media source…
“Players on future English tours face a ‘*** ban’ as Rugby Football Union (RFU) officials scramble to avoid a repeat of the sexual assault scandal that rocked the England tour to New Zealand this week.
The alleged incident was said to have occurred in a private room at the plush Auckland Hilton Hotel, just hours after the 20-37 defeat at the hands of the All Blacks.
British newspapers reported on Friday that English bosses are looking at a ban on players having female guests in their rooms, following confirmation of an allegation of rape against members of the England team.
The Guardian newspaper said the RFU is considering the introduction of the ban from next season.
The RFU has agreed to a new set of standards, with the new code of conduct set to come into force from 1 July when players will sign their new elite contracts.
The union also said four of its players deny allegations of rape made against them.
It has also been confirmed that they are refusing to speak to police and said this was on the basis that no formal complaint has yet been made by the alleged victim.
A statement issued on Friday said: “Those players have each received legal advice from lawyers engaged to independently consider their interests.
“In the absence of any formal complaint in this matter the players were advised to decline the request made to them to voluntarily attend upon the Police and they are fully within their rights to do so.
“The players continue to deny the allegations and have the full support of the England management, coaches and players.”
Auckland City police also put out a statement revealing that the players were refusing to answer questions.
The RFU said there was a “positive dialogue” ongoing with the police.
The spokesman added: “The England squad fully understands the frustration felt by many members of the public and the media regarding the lack of information the squad have been able to provide. We hope it is understood that in the context of an on-going police investigation that this is a difficult time for all concerned and that when it is appropriate to do so further comment will be made.”
Police confirmed that the allegations are that a woman was raped and/or sexually assaulted by four players. No formal compliant has been made.
Auckland police flew to Christchurch in the hope of speaking with the four players alleged to be involved.
It is understood the 18-year-old woman’s boyfriend contacted police after she returned from Auckland’s Hilton Hotel, where an assault allegedly took place following a post-match drinking session in central Auckland last Saturday night – a session that continued into the early hours of Sunday morning.
Auckland City police communications manager Noreen Hegarty said the players had advised police via lawyers they declined to be interviewed at this stage.
Hegarty said the investigation would continue as “thoroughly as possible” before police reviewed the file.
“Any decision about where to take matters from there will depend on the outcome of that review.”
A formal complaint could be made at any time in the future.
The allegations have made headlines throughout British media, with concerns the sordid nature of the claims would ensure they overshadow anything that happens on the pitch during the team’s two-match tour against the All Blacks.”
Ooooh! Not too good, hey? Car stompers are one thing, but rapists?
Ehhh?
21 Jun 2008, 03:23 am
#80 TheTackler: lol, you wish, I’m not that easily offended, you could post stuff all day and it wouldn’t bother me
that last article tells us nothing new and provides no proof of anything
21 Jun 2008, 04:27 am
#75 TheTackler:
get your hand off,you are going blind.she is averager.serious.
how hard can it be to be a weather girl in nz?
you just have to say:it’s raining
every day.
if you call her a hottie you are mental.
21 Jun 2008, 05:21 am
#83 Fern: Toni’s smoking hot. And she’s .. well, I’ll stop there. You haven’t seen her in swimwear!
21 Jun 2008, 06:39 am
BH – its true, just accept it will you
GO THE ALL BLACKS !!!!!!!!!!
21 Jun 2008, 07:01 am
#84 TheTackler:
I dont rate a *** guy’s opinion on woman highly at all.
21 Jun 2008, 08:34 am
#86 Fern: Me too. (And it’s WOMEN, not woman.)
21 Jun 2008, 09:21 am
Angel Barbie is a member of the NZ trapperazi – wil do anything for a few bucks
21 Jun 2008, 12:15 pm
#39 Fern:
And that exactly what the Blind Kiwi chick said as you lasted you 2 mins.
“but you can only play what is in front of you”.
What you meant to say that 95% of all Kiwi turned you down and that makes them ugly.
21 Jun 2008, 12:18 pm
#62 petoors:
This is silly.Our ladies are better than yours.Grow up man.This is a rugby site,obviously you have more faith in your women than you do your rugby players
21 Jun 2008, 12:53 pm
#90 Hurricane: We have the WC and have better looking woman than your doggies. Four more years chokers!
22 Jun 2008, 00:04 am
#88 petoors: I agree. Its a honeytrap designed to negatively influence England in the test series. Well it worked but people won’t forget it just like they won’t forget Umaga/Mealamu getting away with what they did on the Lions tour in 2005.
#85 KiaKahaNZ: you have no proof of anything, you’re just another media led sheep believing what you want to believe.
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