Monty the master
14 Aug 2008
In a SA Rugby magazine exclusive, former Bok fullback Andre Joubert pays tribute to Percy Montgomery.
Playing for your country can be a lonely business at times. It’s not just about adoration and the bright lights. Sometimes, when it is going against you, and the crowds who normally support you are suddenly hypersensitive to your every false move, it feels like the world is against you.
It was for this reason that a couple of years ago, when Percy was going through one of those troughs that all top sportsmen do, I wrote him a letter of support. It was after a game at Newlands against Australia. He actually didn’t play badly at all, but it seemed that the crowd thought he was going through a nightmare, and the media were quite critical the next day.
I told him in the note to back himself, to believe in himself, not to listen to the well-meaning advice of others. I reminded him that only he knew what he was tasked to do for the team, what his job was, and whether he was succeeding or failing. Supporters can be fickle, but you have to remain true to yourself, and true to the team goal.
I think that generally Percy has been true to that. There have been a few hesitant moments, of course there have. He wouldn’t be human if there hadn’t been, but then that happens to everyone. For the most part though he has done everything the team could possibly expect of him, and he has been the consummate professional.
Our careers did not overlap that much. There were only two times that we shared a dressing room, one of which was in the final Test that I played at Loftus in 1997. It was that famous match against Australia, where we thumped them 61-22 in the final game of the Tri-Nations, running all over them in the second half.
I can’t remember too much about Percy. I had just come back from a spell out of the team, and I think we were all too concerned about playing for our own places to really think too much about what other players were doing. Percy was just one of several young guys in the dressing room.
He had played against the British & Irish Lions, and in that year’s Tri-Nations matches at outside centre. From what I recall, he kept very much to himself. He was a quiet member of the team, but then that tends to be the case when you are young. I wasn’t present later on, when he became a senior statesman, but I do know from watching him play on the field that he was a guy who appeared to exude a calmness which was transmitted to those around him.
One of my abiding memories of that Loftus Test, which also turned out to be Carel du Plessis’s last as coach, was setting up Percy for one of his first tries at international level. It came when a ball was kicked into touch near the halfway line. I summed up the situation, saw that the Wallabies didn’t have a lot of guys back, and I threw out a long throw to Percy who used his pace to score the try.
His unbelievable pace is what I remember about Percy’s play in those days. Those who had played against him spoke about how quick he was. He had started out for Western Province at flyhalf, but then moved to centre, which was where he played when we were team-mates.
As it turned out, it was me who gave him his first opportunity to move to fullback when I injured my knee and was unavailable for Nick Mallett’s first tour as coach to Italy, France and Britain. Justin Swart may have played in the first Test against Italy in Bologna, but then he was injured, and Percy took his chance of filling the last line of defence with both hands.
It was a great tour for the Boks, and Percy, both with his general play and with his goal kicking, was one of the shining lights. That set up his career, and from there it was hard for me to grab back the No 15 jersey. Nick had a winning team, they had momentum, and there was no need to change the winning combination.
If there is one thing that has disappointed me about Percy it is that I am not sure he has ever really done full justice to his potential as an attacking fullback. With his pace, he could have been devastating joining the line. He had the potential to rip defences to shreds in the same way that Christian Cullen used to when he was playing for the All Blacks.
The fullback orientation has changed quite a bit in the modern game. It has become much more of a defensive position than it used to be. It started changing towards the end of my career, and I got around it by setting myself up as a second flyhalf in the team.
Percy, with his early experience of playing flyhalf, was ideally suited to do that, to have an impact on the game by helping set up plays, but it is not something that he often did. Had he done so, I think he could have been even more effective. Apart from his pace and his distribution skills, he also has an excellent tactical brain and tactical kicking boot.
I don’t know why, but under Jake White the Springboks tended to neglect the fullback as an attacking option. I think Percy could have done more earlier in his career to turn matches in his team’s favour by getting involved from first phase. The Boks tended to shovel the ball back to the flyhalf, but if they could split the line more often – perhaps use Percy as a decoy on the blindside – I think it could have made the Boks so much more potent on attack.
But there again, so much depends on what game the coach wants you to play, and maybe Percy was just fitting into the game plan that the situation demanded. Generally you could not fault his catching and his field kicking, while his goal kicking is one of his biggest attributes.
I found it quite strange that he lost his place in the Bok team in 2001 through a perception that his goal kicking was inconsistent. I have always seen it as one of his biggest attributes and I don’t think enough of a fuss was made of this aspect of the successful Springbok World Cup campaign last year.
Percy was unbelievable during the tournament in France, and I think the Boks drew a huge amount of confidence from the calm way he went about striking the ball over from all angles and distances. Having a guy in the team who can kick like that makes a huge difference to the all-round confidence of the players.
They know that if the situation is set up, the kicker will make sure. It is quite different when your place kicker is less reliable and you aren’t quite sure if he is going to be able to capitalise properly on the pressure you exert on the opposition.
This is particularly important in a World Cup, and in a World Cup final even more so. It was the make-or-break game that comes around only once in a while, and yet if Percy felt any nerves, he did not show it. Every time the opportunity was created for him, he made sure, and by keeping the scoreboard ticking over, the Boks ensured that England were always playing catch-up, and thus always the team under pressure.
I watched the game on television and was amazed to learn from people who were there that Percy was actually carrying an injury from an early stage of that game. He did not look injured to me, but it is a tribute to his commitment and his bravery that he was able to play through an injury and produce such a match-winning performance.
Then again, it is probably a product of having played overseas for so many years. Jannie de Beer is a player who I played against often and never really rated that highly, but then he went overseas for a few years, and after his return, he was just a completely different player. His improvement was astounding.
Percy will probably be the first to admit that he was one of those guys who had several different careers. There was the time before he went overseas, when maybe he was still impressionable and vulnerable in the sense that he would still produce the odd scatty moment. But when he came back from Wales in 2004 to play for the Boks, you could tell that here was a professional, finished product.
I think we have seen something similar just recently from Butch James, who also underwent a major growth process as an international rugby player when he worked under Eddie Jones. There is a lot to be said for exposure to the professional approach of the northern hemisphere clubs. Percy’s approach is very professional and he appears to have his head in the right place.
He also quite clearly looks after his body very well too. He went something like 80 Tests without being injured, and you can’t do that without being supremely fit. To me that is another one of his big strengths as a player – he has done the hard work to ensure that he is physically up to the challenges that get thrown his way.
But even if you are physically fit, the nature of South African rugby is such that longevity is only really reserved for special players. When I say this I am referring to the chopping and changing that South African rugby tends to do, not just between players used in the team, but coaches as well.
Every new coach has a new idea and a different view on the merits of the individuals who are available to him. For instance, my last Test was also Carel’s last, but he had only been coach for eight matches. In that time, he had used a lot of different players, and then he made way for Nick.
Percy survived this transition between coaches, and then several other similar situations later on. It was a masterstroke on Jake White’s part to bring him back when he did, and the experience he built up through his career was crucial to the success of the Boks at the 2007 World Cup.
He is a bit like a good wine in that I don’t think I ever saw Percy play as well as he did at that World Cup. It was not just his goal kicking that was invaluable, but the way he kept things together at the back. As I mentioned earlier, he has a calmness about him that rubs off on the players around him, and it was clear that the youngsters in the team responded to him.
Given the chopping and changing that goes on in South African rugby, it is an incredible achievement on Percy’s part to be on the threshold of playing 100 Tests for the Springboks. It is a testament to the way he cares for his body and the overall professionalism of his approach – he has bounced back from setbacks, and he hasn’t allowed them to beat him.
I think that is an important lesson for all young players coming through who dream of being like Percy and following in his footsteps. As I wrote to him in that letter, it is important to believe in yourself and what you are doing. He came through that ordeal by playing good rugby and doing his talking on the field. That has always been his way, and I salute him for it.
– This article first appeared in the August issue of SA Rugby magazine.
542 Comments
14 Aug 2008, 06:55 am
2 LEGENDARY FULLBACKS. I agree though that Percy could have been more devastating with that pace he had…probably didn’t back himself coz of the boooing crowds…what an embarrassment we were.
14 Aug 2008, 06:57 am
I think we have evolved as supporters though. With all the errors Steyn makes I’ve never heard a single boo from the crowd
14 Aug 2008, 06:58 am
Every now and then you still see glimpses of that pace of his though..only really turns on the afterburners when a definite try is in site eg Wales Test try
14 Aug 2008, 07:03 am
#2 flanka:
It was mainly the Bulls supporters who booed him. Bloody idiots.
14 Aug 2008, 07:05 am
#4 David: His hair style didnt help him much in that regards in those days
but Monty is a REAL legend.
14 Aug 2008, 07:06 am
“In a SA Rugby magazine exclusive, former Bok fullback Andre Joubert pays tribute to Percy Montgomery.”
That is quite obvious. It its is extremely well written and not riddled with spelling mistakes, grammatical errors and logical inconsistencies that would be the hallmark of Keo journalism.
14 Aug 2008, 07:06 am
Face it, after 100 tests, Percy still can’t handle the up-and-under.
14 Aug 2008, 07:10 am
#2 flanka:
Cause Percy hadn’t single handedly won a test match against Aus when he was 19, his defense was piss poor, he didn’t get the same distance on his kicks and he was not so physically imposing as Steyn. He had more pace than Steyn though.
14 Aug 2008, 07:14 am
Tackles- he has gotten a LOT better in that department- granted he wasn’t that reliable 8 years ago with tne up and unders but he has improved- no dispute there.
14 Aug 2008, 07:19 am
#6 klingon_x: Actually the same team that works for keo.co.za works on SA Rugby magazine (and SA Cricket, Business Day mag etc etc)
14 Aug 2008, 07:20 am
Simon just ignore his dig at u guys. I feel u all do a great job- otherwise there wouldnt be as many hits there are.
14 Aug 2008, 07:22 am
#7 TheTackler: well he handles them well enough, especially during world cup finals…and manages to bounce off cameras with consumate ease….give him his dues and move on
14 Aug 2008, 07:29 am
#6 klingon_x: why do you put yourself through this anguish, day after day….are you some kind of self-flagellating martyr?
14 Aug 2008, 07:29 am
two legends of the game, Rolls Royce and Hair Dryer
14 Aug 2008, 07:29 am
before you s[hit in your pants…consummate
14 Aug 2008, 07:30 am
#7 TheTackler: And who in the NZ team boast a RWC medal like Percy Tackles? O sorry I forgot, it’s a useless competition not worth competing in.
14 Aug 2008, 07:31 am
#15 BuckT: Now you’ve stuffed up s[hit. Please try again!!!
14 Aug 2008, 07:34 am
#5 bangkok-bok: Haha, now u see some of the atyles coming out nowdays…Steyn with his 1970′s perm…Oliviers well kept mane
14 Aug 2008, 07:34 am
Percy is, was and will always be a legend of SA rugby – and half of the Loftus bunch and all others who judge people on their hair colour, hair lenth etc are and has always been a bunch of hooligans.
14 Aug 2008, 07:35 am
styles*
14 Aug 2008, 07:35 am
#17 Alibaba: sh]it…dam!!
14 Aug 2008, 07:37 am
#19 Alibaba: Or was I being a bit harsh now? I’ll retract that: Half of the Loftus bunch and all others who judge people on their hair colour, hair lenth etc are NOT and have NOT always been a bunch of hooligans.
14 Aug 2008, 07:42 am
#5 bangkok-bok:
The comparison between the reaction to the coloured “traitors” who support the ABs and the Bok supporters at Loftus who booed their own fullback when he ran onto the field is an interesting one.
14 Aug 2008, 07:43 am
#8 klingon_x:steyn still has the worst haircut in south africa. Looks like he’s growing a birds nest
14 Aug 2008, 07:45 am
David- point noted… Great analogy and quite apt…
14 Aug 2008, 07:47 am
24 flanka – agreed. But I have this weird ‘Samson’ theory that certain playes play better when they have their ‘strength hair’. Have u seen how Zane K’s form has dipped since he cut his bush?
14 Aug 2008, 07:47 am
#7 TheTackler: and after 20 years and 200+ test matches, new zealand still can’t handle a world cup.
14 Aug 2008, 07:47 am
I will repeat something I said elsewhere…
The word ‘legend’ gets used quite often in South African rugby, and although every person has his own favourite, or hero, it is title used too often in my view.
But I can see why. You see a legend according to the dictionary is actually a noun, it is a ‘a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical’. So in actual fact anything or anyone, depending on the storyteller, can become ‘legendary’ because of the story that is told about them.
….
For this reason I do not believe Percy should be called a legend, because nothing about your career and what you did as a Springbok is nonhistorical or even a fable.
Percy is what the dictionary describes as; “noble, significant, loyal, humble, notable, remarkable, exceptionally outstanding”.
Percy is one of the very few, Springbok Greats!
Well done Percy on becoming the first Springbok to earn 100 caps!
(With a whole lot of other stuff in the middle which I left out because it is way too long.)
14 Aug 2008, 07:51 am
Percy truly was (in his earlier career) the one we loved to hate. Every gf I have ever had has fancied his pants off. lol
14 Aug 2008, 07:52 am
#28 PissAnt: sound, as usual.
14 Aug 2008, 07:58 am
#28 PissAnt: You related to Tackles Pissie? “lol”
14 Aug 2008, 08:08 am
#31 Alibaba:
Nah, maybe the bits inbetween I left out will indicate that I am actually a great fan of Percy.
As for tackles, Percy might after 100 test still not be sound under a high ball, but NZ after 20 years still can’t win the World Cup.
14 Aug 2008, 08:10 am
#23 David: Good point – which is worse?
14 Aug 2008, 08:12 am
#32 PissAnt: And if the Boks had been at the 1987 World Cup we might we talking about how the All Blacks have NEVER won the tournament.
14 Aug 2008, 08:12 am
It’s great to see Monty getting his dues. Now if someone could just slap Steyn and put a 15 on his back we could all move on.
14 Aug 2008, 08:13 am
#28 PissAnt: And there I learned something new. Thanks PA, interesting.
14 Aug 2008, 08:14 am
maybe jouba can do some writing for keo.co.za.
i must admit when he made his debut for SA vs the Lions in in 1997, I was 14 years old and made a tape recording of my pre-match prediction and when it came to my comment on percy, i said in a very nasal voice: “i dont think so..”
99 tests later i salute u percy..
14 Aug 2008, 08:16 am
#32 PissAnt: You are one of the people who always post level headedly about rugby, so I respect your opinion – no worries there. The question about your being related to Tackles was “tongue in cheeck” because you were correcting grammar…
14 Aug 2008, 08:18 am
Robbie Deans drops Nathan Sharpe for trip to SA and Luke Burgess out after a training incident on WED. Tuquiri, Horwil,and Elsom doubtful for 1 st test as well! Ashley Cooper as well, interesting.
14 Aug 2008, 08:19 am
#35 kaksioek: Agree, then we will have a solid fullback who can punish the opposition with drop goals from his own 10 meter line. A FB also doesn’t need to pass that often, so that little problem of Steyn is also taken care of, and we can have Connie at wing to replace JP, and then we will have a real potent back three – but maybe Steyn is too white and will stuff up the numbers in the team?
14 Aug 2008, 08:20 am
#39 grant10: Who did he replace them with?
14 Aug 2008, 08:22 am
kak- I agree 100%. I am also one of those who wholeheartedly believe 15 is Steyn’s best position. Why he is always played out of position is perplexing…
14 Aug 2008, 08:25 am
The problem is that Steyntjie wants to be a flyhalf.
14 Aug 2008, 08:26 am
#41 Alibaba: check 28 man squad on news 24. I type slowly! Surprised about Sharpe, he is there Enforcer?
14 Aug 2008, 08:26 am
#34 Simon: you probably would have won 91 and 99 as well – so you’d now have five and England would have one
14 Aug 2008, 08:27 am
#43 kaksioek: Steyn will become the next Bok 10.
14 Aug 2008, 08:27 am
#45 vindicated: wait – you were at 99
14 Aug 2008, 08:28 am
#47 vindicated: Thanks anyway.
14 Aug 2008, 08:28 am
He doesnt have the skills for a flyhalf. Loves his crash ball-type attack, not fast enough in ditribution, kicking game at 10 not good enough and is selfish. Dont get me wrong- I rate him a LOT but his best position is 15- there he has time to kick (huge boot) and can attack with space. Also he is great on defence- what u want in 15.
14 Aug 2008, 08:31 am
#49 bangkok-bok: nothing that the coaches wont fix, Steyn has the x factor!
14 Aug 2008, 08:32 am
Squad: Stirling Mortlock (captain), Ben Alexander, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Berrick Barnes, Al Baxter, Richard Brown, Sam Cordingley, Ryan Cross, Matt Dunning, Rocky Elsom, Adam Freier, Matt Giteau, James Horwill, Peter Hynes, Hugh McMeniman, Drew Mitchell, Dean Mumm, Stephen Moore, Wycliff Palu, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Benn Robinson, Brett Sheehan, George Smith, Timana Tahu, Lote Tuqiri, Lachie Turner, Phil Waugh, Dan Vickerman
14 Aug 2008, 08:34 am
Horwill, McMeniman, Mumm and Vicerman – plenty of options at lock for Deans. I suspect he will start with Horwill and Vickerman with McMeniman on the bench – depending on wheterh Elsom can play or not.
I don’t think he will play Waugh and Smith in the same team again.
14 Aug 2008, 08:34 am
#33 Kerneels:
I can understand certain people supporting the ABs for historical reasons, although I believe it’s misguided today. The booing of Percy, for me, was unforgivable as this was a Springbok team and treating one member in that fashion undermined the whole side that they were there to support.
14 Aug 2008, 08:35 am
Granted GRANT – he has BUT he aint a number 10
14 Aug 2008, 08:36 am
#38 Alibaba:
Ah right, got you!
14 Aug 2008, 08:36 am
Great article from the Rolls Royce of fullbacks.
14 Aug 2008, 08:37 am
#53 David:
Wasn’t John Smit also boo’d?
After a snotting from the AB’s?
14 Aug 2008, 08:39 am
#52 Kerneels:
I think McMenimam is there as cover for 7 & 8 rather than lock. I’d start him at 7 (our 7).
14 Aug 2008, 08:40 am
#57 PissAnt:
Yeah. At least that was after the game.
14 Aug 2008, 08:41 am
#58 David: That is why I think he will be on the bench if Elsom can play, he covers both lock and flank. Waugh will be there to cover for Smith.
14 Aug 2008, 08:43 am
#60 Kerneels:
So who will replace Waugh at 7 (6)?
14 Aug 2008, 08:45 am
#53 David: IMO both sets of ‘fans’ should be dragged into the street and shot like the curs they are. But that is just me.
Nothing can justify either.
I have/had a (white) buddy who supports the ABs because he doesn’t believe our racial quotas/targets (whatever the politically correct term is this week). It makes just as much sense as supporting the ABs because of apartheid 20 years ago.
14 Aug 2008, 08:47 am
Agreed kerneels
14 Aug 2008, 08:49 am
According to RugbyHeaven, Mcmeniman will play in place of Elsom in the first Test. They are also worried about Tuqir’s knee. Good stuff.
14 Aug 2008, 08:50 am
Good morning jobseekers
14 Aug 2008, 08:50 am
#62 Kerneels:
They’ll always be idiots.
After the lineout debacle against the ABs, I can’t see RD going into a match against SA without 4 lineout jumpers. He should have played McMeniman at blindside against the ABs.
14 Aug 2008, 08:51 am
#66 David:
Sorry “There’ll always be….”
14 Aug 2008, 08:51 am
#61 David: If they can, start with 6 Smith 7 Elsom and 8 Paulu with waugh and McMeniman on the bench.
If Elsom can’t start, play Mcmeniman with Waugh and Mumm on the bench.
14 Aug 2008, 08:52 am
#65 Dawn:
Morning daybreak.
14 Aug 2008, 08:52 am
#64 kaksioek: Snap…seems my crystal ball was correct.
14 Aug 2008, 08:53 am
100 Tests for SA – not bad for a Namibian
14 Aug 2008, 08:53 am
#65 Dawn: Dag Dawn.
14 Aug 2008, 08:53 am
Not even the crack of dawn is safe anymore
14 Aug 2008, 08:54 am
#68 Kerneels:
Yeah, I agree, that’s their best combo.
14 Aug 2008, 08:54 am
#71 vindicated: I see your boys just snuck past us in the hockey…lucky if you ask me.
14 Aug 2008, 08:56 am
How come we discussing Aussie lineup?
Who cares?
14 Aug 2008, 08:56 am
#73 bangkok-bok: Oooo…mentioning the word ‘crack’ and ‘dawn’ in the same post will get you in trouble! Now if you mention ‘getting up’ or a similar innuendo you will be banned for life!
14 Aug 2008, 08:56 am
#75 Kerneels: was that the 10-0 result ?
14 Aug 2008, 08:57 am
#71 vindicated:
Strictly speaking, Walvis Bay was still part of SA when he was born and not SWA. Although it was under dispute.
14 Aug 2008, 08:57 am
76 Dawn: Agreed- who cares about their line up?
14 Aug 2008, 08:58 am
#77 Kerneels: is it that anal here ? honest?
14 Aug 2008, 08:58 am
#78 vindicated: Yes, but we prefer to see it as a 1 – 00 loss.
14 Aug 2008, 08:58 am
#76 Dawn:
It’s called the opposing team. Sometimes it’s nice to know the composition of the side you’re playing.
14 Aug 2008, 08:59 am
#73 bangkok-bok:
I wish I had ten bucks for every time I’ve heard that one!
14 Aug 2008, 08:59 am
#80 bangkok-bok: you will when they kick your arse in Durban
14 Aug 2008, 08:59 am
#81 bangkok-bok: Nah, just kidding. Dawn just doen’t take anything lying down.
14 Aug 2008, 09:00 am
#84 Dawn: sorry dawn- I will strive to do better next time
14 Aug 2008, 09:00 am
Dawn
What do you think about the people in Cape Town that will support the All Blacks on Saturday
Do you have an opinion on that ???
14 Aug 2008, 09:01 am
#86 Kerneels: really? must be hard to always be taking something standing up.
14 Aug 2008, 09:04 am
#85 vindicated:
You so damn rude. It’s unbelievable.
14 Aug 2008, 09:05 am
#88 vindicated:
Go read the thread. I’m not re-hashing the whole thing here.
14 Aug 2008, 09:05 am
#86 Kerneels:
14 Aug 2008, 09:06 am
#89 bangkok-bok: Stop with the in-your-endo’s…
14 Aug 2008, 09:07 am
#85 vindicated: they will NOT kick our arse in Durban. End of story..
14 Aug 2008, 09:08 am
#93 Kerneels: wasnt that Freddie’s swansong?
14 Aug 2008, 09:08 am
#94 bangkok-bok: They might
14 Aug 2008, 09:08 am
#71 vindicated:
Percy was born in Walvis Bay when it was still part of South Africa.
14 Aug 2008, 09:11 am
Why are you guys sparring with Vindicated – their most capped player came from Zambia.
Anyway I’m off. Chat later.
14 Aug 2008, 09:11 am
#93 Kerneels:
Kerneels hou nou op!!!!
14 Aug 2008, 09:12 am
#97 WP Till I Die:
I’ve already told him that. Although being an Aussie I suppose it needs repeating a few times for him to understand.
14 Aug 2008, 09:13 am
#49 bangkok-bok: The boy wants to play flyhalf, given some time in the position he will make it his own. He is something rare, if Larkham ,Giteau [ also selfish?] can do the job, so can Steyn. We have no real class alternatives . I believe come the Lions Tour next year Steyn will be in the saddle.
14 Aug 2008, 09:14 am
#88 vindicated:
What do you think of the people in Perth that supported the Springboks when they played there?
14 Aug 2008, 09:15 am
#102 WP Till I Die: They were all south africans!
14 Aug 2008, 09:16 am
morning anyone who cares.. just ran into PdV having a post-gym stroll in Adderley Street. Walking around with a silly smile and being mobbed by everyone. Got a cool pic with him. Our receptionist says he looks like he’s about to break out in tears in the photograph.. heheh. hella nice fella, but a bit distracted
14 Aug 2008, 09:17 am
#100 David:
It makes me wonder – does the fact that my uncle was born in Gweru in 1960 make him a Rhodesian or a Zimbabwean?
Or does the fact that my greatuncle was born in Gabarone in 1951 make him a Bechuanalander or a Botswanan or even a Brit colonial?
14 Aug 2008, 09:17 am
Most of them were South Africans that have migrated there
I thought it was very astute of Rugby Australia to take the game to Perth where traditionally it has had a very small following
I think there will be a lot more SA Interest in whats happening in Perth soon too
You know – Ma and Pa flying over from SA to see thier kid playing for the Force
14 Aug 2008, 09:17 am
#102 WP Till I Die:
How are you babes.
14 Aug 2008, 09:18 am
#101 grant10: Peter Grant needs time there- he is a REAL number 10- LOOK – I am a HUGE Steyn fan- but he will be our next Monty (only bigger and stronger)- he needs to be groomed for 15. But the again I’m a believer that Spies should play wing so…
14 Aug 2008, 09:18 am
#106 vindicated:
Man, just go away.
You must be hell to live with, spewing vitriol all day like bile.
14 Aug 2008, 09:20 am
I am also a big believer that Tacitus is the most astute poster on keo. That man knows his rugby!
14 Aug 2008, 09:20 am
FLECK IS A LEGEND !
14 Aug 2008, 09:20 am
#101 grant10: i feel steyn has had his best games at fullback/ wing..or at least has been crtitised less by everyone
14 Aug 2008, 09:20 am
#104 salamihoelykit:
Where do you work? I’m near Thibault Square.
14 Aug 2008, 09:21 am
#106 vindicated: or maybe the whole family flying to Perth to see their boyjie line up in the Gold of Australia for the first time
14 Aug 2008, 09:21 am
#101 grant10:
Riding off into the sunset?
Steyn has neither the mental or physical agility to be an international class
10.#105 WP Till I Die:
Interesting point, although the enclave of Walvis was finally ceded to SWA rather than having a name change.
14 Aug 2008, 09:21 am
for a good laugh go see the new bulls song thread….ahhh made my day
14 Aug 2008, 09:21 am
#110 bangkok-bok: That is true only when he is not so emotional involved
14 Aug 2008, 09:22 am
emotional = emotionaly
14 Aug 2008, 09:23 am
#107 Dawn:
Oh never mind.
14 Aug 2008, 09:24 am
I have been a silent watcher of this site for almost 2 years (sad I know) and Tisme you are also someone whose opinion I respect…
14 Aug 2008, 09:24 am
#113 WPTID… pretty close to you, just behind the SARS building…
14 Aug 2008, 09:26 am
#120 bangkok-bok: Thanks BB…..OK then ….. TACKLER IS A LEGEND !!
14 Aug 2008, 09:26 am
#121 salamihoelykit:
So if I run downstairs right now, I’ll still catch him???
14 Aug 2008, 09:26 am
#110 boet that comment just made me wonder if you aint old tac to put us off guard lmao
14 Aug 2008, 09:27 am
#107 Dawn:
I’m good, babes. Thanks for asking.
When is the Firm reconvening?
14 Aug 2008, 09:28 am
#125 WP Till I Die:
When Wallabie comes.
14 Aug 2008, 09:29 am
#6 klingon_x: The same writers who write for this site write for SA Rugby mag
14 Aug 2008, 09:29 am
hehe.. sorry dude, happened at about 8:30.. but they are staying at the Cullinan Hotel, so if you feel like standing around til they appear… The virgin active might also be a good bet- i saw the physio there yesterday, and i was the one with the silly smile hehe
14 Aug 2008, 09:30 am
#126 Dawn: Who is Wallabie?
14 Aug 2008, 09:30 am
#125 WP Till I Die: yes – when are we getting together again
14 Aug 2008, 09:31 am
#125 WP Till I Die:
Although I am open to suggestions.
14 Aug 2008, 09:31 am
#121 salamihoelykit:
You should come meet the Firm sometime.
I see great things for the Firm – a clubhouse, monthly meetings, fundraisers, cloak-and-dagger activities…
14 Aug 2008, 09:32 am
#130 vindicated:
It would actually be very pleasant to meet you in the flesh, vindicated.
Dawn has (voluntarily or not) taken on the role of Grand Organiser of these meets. She is the central conduit through which these things must go.
14 Aug 2008, 09:35 am
#133 WP Till I Die: allthough she tends to invite me then dis-invite me before the event – I think she likes teasing
14 Aug 2008, 09:37 am
#134 vindicated:
She’s a woman, isn’t she?
14 Aug 2008, 09:39 am
#132 WPTID… sounds like a plan- i think ill start working on positive contributions in case i piss someone at the Firm off.. sounds like an affiliate of pagad..
14 Aug 2008, 09:41 am
I salute you Percy you have overcome obstacles that would have seen a lesser man cower away from, you hold just about every Springbok record there is. Nobody can take that away from you. Go out in glory on Saturday and make your 100th game one for all of us to remember. Once you have hung up those silver boots you will be able to sit back and say “I made a difference”, not many people get to say that.
14 Aug 2008, 09:44 am
#136 salamihoelykit: lol
14 Aug 2008, 09:44 am
#136 salamihoelykit:
Not an affiliate.
Pagad works for the FIRM.
14 Aug 2008, 09:45 am
#135 WP Till I Die:
Jy vat my laag.
14 Aug 2008, 09:46 am
#134 vindicated:
We all know you have to get permission from your wife.
Nothing to do with me.
14 Aug 2008, 09:46 am
Percy u are a hero! My (THAI) girlfriend has watched like 20 games but LOVES u! Have a cracker mate- u have my whole support.
14 Aug 2008, 09:47 am
#139 WP Till I Die:
We also have several politicians in our back pocket.
Soon we will control Peter de Villiers as well.
14 Aug 2008, 09:47 am
#142 bangkok-bok:
Adam’s apple?
14 Aug 2008, 09:49 am
#139 WPTID.. let me know when you guys are having a meet, maybe i’ll join you for an ‘orange juice’
14 Aug 2008, 09:49 am
#135 WP Till I Die:
I am hurt to my very core.
You calling me a tease.
14 Aug 2008, 09:52 am
#146 Dawn:
OK, then I’ll call you a “sure deal”.
14 Aug 2008, 09:55 am
LOL WPTID
14 Aug 2008, 10:00 am
Percy is a legend
14 Aug 2008, 10:11 am
hi guys, im here – cant wait for saturday – wptid ? any predictions mate ?
14 Aug 2008, 10:12 am
Fantastic, another article about my favorite player. So did anyone get an answer out of Percy when he was suposed to be on the Keo offices yesterday?
Methinks our legs were being pulled?
14 Aug 2008, 10:13 am
#146 Dawn: did you ever track down Dan Carter.
WIPD was hinting that you had “plans” for him!
14 Aug 2008, 10:13 am
percy is a great player , i salute him .in sayng that ,i think his ‘sell-by’ date starts on sunday
14 Aug 2008, 10:17 am
#150 daneb:
31-28 to the Boks.
14 Aug 2008, 10:19 am
Even in hockey SA gets the short stick ( pun intended ) from refs. SA goalie after 10/0 defeat at the hands of Oz:
Chris Hibbert, Suid-Afrika se doelwagter, was ná die wedstryd effens omgekrap.
“Australië se tweede doel moes nie toegeken gewees het nie, want dit was nie ’n doel nie. Ons het die skeidsregter gevra om eers by die televisie-skeidsregter seker te maak voordat hy dié doel toeken.
“Toe hy weier, het dit my ontstel en van toe af het ek nie gespeel soos ek kan nie,” het Hibbert gesê.
14 Aug 2008, 10:22 am
man did we drink at the watering hole last night.
i blame all the nasty vibes flowing here yesterday.
my head is sore.
14 Aug 2008, 10:25 am
jirre wptid . ,you dont have any confidence in the bokkies hey? my score all blacks by at least 12 points !
14 Aug 2008, 10:27 am
35-23 bokke!!!!!!!!!
14 Aug 2008, 10:31 am
#156 rangerman
In the spirit of hangover reconciliation and positivity, i apologise for assuming racism when there wasnt any. tis obviously a sensitive subject with me, and part of it is obviously my baggage. i dont care for pc-ness either, and didnt realise the whole herschelle thing was between friends. but some people on this site just upset me.
14 Aug 2008, 10:36 am
#159 salamihoelykit: accepted unequivocally mate!
ja, we were having a laugh but it was maybe close tot the line. i can understand you getting bleak as there are many bigots hanging around here, of all colours!
14 Aug 2008, 10:36 am
#156 rangerman: personally, I think you are sub-consciously preparing for the worst
14 Aug 2008, 10:37 am
#161 vindicated: haha.
personally i dont give a toss what you think.
14 Aug 2008, 10:38 am
#161 vindicated: so why are the aussies dropping like flies? they arent suffering from 3 games in a row are they?
14 Aug 2008, 10:40 am
so far reports indicate elsom, tequilla, burgess. sharpe has been axed.
whats going on?
i hope deans isnt sending a developement side over?
14 Aug 2008, 10:40 am
#162 rangerman: yes i gather that – but on Sunday morning if there are little warning bells ringing in your head than dont say I didnt warn you
14 Aug 2008, 10:41 am
probably wont affect revenue anyway as we love watching aussies get a beating.
14 Aug 2008, 10:41 am
#161 vindicated:
Oh shut the hell up
14 Aug 2008, 10:42 am
#166 rangerman: yeah, well pity you havent been able to see the Aussies getting a beating in the last two games between our nations
14 Aug 2008, 10:44 am
#168 vindicated:
You hear me?
14 Aug 2008, 10:46 am
#165 vindicated: lol, losing to the side that PUMPED your team would be bad, yes.
14 Aug 2008, 10:47 am
#167 Dawn: morning beautiful.
14 Aug 2008, 10:47 am
#169 Dawn: i am hanging BADLY today.
14 Aug 2008, 10:52 am
#170 rangerman: I think the Boks should start thinking about how they can beat the Aussies
Out of the last 6 games – you’ve lost 4
14 Aug 2008, 10:53 am
#171 rangerman:
Am not so hot meself.
Already been called a “tease” this morning.
Men disappoint me.
14 Aug 2008, 10:53 am
#173 vindicated: blah blah blah.
live in the now chappie.
next weeks game is all that counts.
14 Aug 2008, 10:54 am
#174 Dawn: ja, no man is perfect dawnie.
nothing wrong with being a bit of a tease.
14 Aug 2008, 10:55 am
#175 rangerman: ok – so I look forward – but you look back
I wouldnt expect anything more from you
14 Aug 2008, 10:55 am
i walked past frans steyn last sun and didnt even say hi.
cant believe i was that stupid!
i must say, he is one big bloke.
14 Aug 2008, 10:56 am
#177 vindicated: are you mental?
14 Aug 2008, 10:59 am
#179 rangerman:
Please take my advice.
Just ignore.
14 Aug 2008, 11:00 am
#180 Dawn: ok, ok dawnie, but i love tangling with vindicated from time to time.
he is entertaining.
14 Aug 2008, 11:01 am
its dead here today.
14 Aug 2008, 11:03 am
vindicated can i ask if you’re a saffa living in oz or a proper brucie? just trying to figure the thought processes behind the trolling…
14 Aug 2008, 11:04 am
#179 rangerman: I just want to see you write “three home games to come” – just once more before Saturday – i have become so accustomed to seeing that phrase
14 Aug 2008, 11:05 am
Is this photo an attempt to make the Boks look darker?
14 Aug 2008, 11:06 am
#180 Dawn:
What’s going on here!
14 Aug 2008, 11:06 am
#185 church – like chch but pronounceable: is what an attempt chch?
14 Aug 2008, 11:06 am
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14 Aug 2008, 11:07 am
#185 church – like chch but pronounceable: scratch that, i am hanging big time.
cognitive collapse.
14 Aug 2008, 11:08 am
#183 salamihoelykit: he is a brucie living in cape town.
14 Aug 2008, 11:10 am
#183 salamihoelykit: listen dipstick – you cant say Im trolling just because you dont agree with me
or was it the hard facts like 2 from 6 that you didnt like
and just cause you dont like to deal with or accept the reality doesnt mean I was trolling either
14 Aug 2008, 11:11 am
thanks rangerman… somehow that makes him ok in my book:)
14 Aug 2008, 11:13 am
#191 vindicated:
hmmm on this site would it be considered trolling or polemics
14 Aug 2008, 11:15 am
#191 vindicated
sorry if i offended you matey. true enough about the 2 from 6. i suppose what hurts the most about losing to the sheepcuddlers is that we really shouldnt lose to you. losing to the othercuddlers (kiwis) is easier to swallow because they’re pretty bloody good, but with the exception of gits, stirlo and your back row, the rest of your guys wouldnt even make our squad…
14 Aug 2008, 11:16 am
#192 salamihoelykit:
that was before you read 191 right?
14 Aug 2008, 11:16 am
#192 salamihoelykit:
Is he still OK in your book?
You’ll learn. The hard way.
14 Aug 2008, 11:16 am
#183 salamihoelykit: here is an example of trolling
#163 rangerman:
#164 rangerman:
14 Aug 2008, 11:17 am
#194 salamihoelykit:
For barks sakes don’t apologise to him.
Ever.
14 Aug 2008, 11:17 am
#194 salamihoelykit:
but wouldn’t you also love to have their coach
14 Aug 2008, 11:17 am
#197 vindicated:
Listen you troll.
Rangerman is bigger, sexier, smarter, and stronger than you.
Don’t take your small man syndrome out on him.
14 Aug 2008, 11:18 am
#198 Dawn:
hehe …. that is exactly what Wallabie used to be like. They all settle down after a while
14 Aug 2008, 11:20 am
#197 vindicated: dipstick?
trolling?
surely not? i was just asking for comment on the injury ridden aussie squad and wondering if 3 hard games in a row had anything to do with it.
simple really.
you choose not to answer but rather throw past match stats at me.
now settle down vindicated. salamy was just asking a question.
dipstick.
14 Aug 2008, 11:20 am
#197 vindicated:
That is not trolling. Hang around a while
14 Aug 2008, 11:21 am
ok, out for a while.
i think three hard days blogging have fatigued me.
i certainly feel injured.
14 Aug 2008, 11:22 am
#194 salamihoelykit: thats the problem isnt it “we really shouldnt lose to you”
14 Aug 2008, 11:22 am
#202 rangerman:
If you want to abuse someone else then don’t sign your own name as “dipstick”
14 Aug 2008, 11:22 am
What they use to call Andre in his playing days again ? something to do with a car ?
14 Aug 2008, 11:22 am
#205 vindicated:
The next generation will grow up being more used to it
14 Aug 2008, 11:23 am
#198 Dawn- its part of my new philosophy of not letting idiots in traffic and on keo disrupt my tranquility:)
#199 chch… yes that would be nice. but i was lucky enough to meet PdV this morning, and two things struck me- his vice-grip handshake (believe it or not) and a knowing smile.. makes me want to go place a bet in the boks. winning that is! dont underestimate the Div!
14 Aug 2008, 11:23 am
#204 rangerman:
See ya rangerdude. Be back by game time
14 Aug 2008, 11:25 am
Referring to earlier posts.
Anybody who boos a Springbok player has no right to call themselves a Springbok supporter, or a loyal South African for that matter. I cringe when I hear it.
Another thing, hissing and booing when a kicker (from whatever team) is taking his kick, is the pitomy of bad manners…I cringe every time I hear that too. 30 years ago you would not have heard this from a South African crowd. Unfortunately one of our main current rivals started it. We should just stop doing it.
Well done Percy, you took some huge lumps in the early part of your career, not many 19 year olds would have stood up from that, you are near the end of you international career, with all kinds of SA records and in better shape and a better player than you ever were before. You typify what every young sportsman/woman should be trying for. Well done…and I am relishing the coming of the moment when I see you run out on Saturday against our oldest and main rival, who we always respect and who always respect us.
14 Aug 2008, 11:26 am
#211 4man: oops “epitomy”
14 Aug 2008, 11:26 am
#209 salamihoelykit:
What do you do to have met Pdv today ?
14 Aug 2008, 11:27 am
#204 rangerman
cheers fella… works calls for me too
14 Aug 2008, 11:27 am
work even
14 Aug 2008, 11:29 am
#211 4man:
You aren’t meant to boo when people kick. You just wave yours arms and make lots of noise.
14 Aug 2008, 11:29 am
Church: to avoid boring anyone with repetition, see post #104
14 Aug 2008, 11:31 am
#211 4man:
It is the disrespect of national anthems that gets me. In Aussie bars no one sings or even bothers to stay quiet. Aussie folk try to tallk to me during ours or the Haka!
14 Aug 2008, 11:31 am
#217 salamihoelykit:
You have to learn to do the linky thing
14 Aug 2008, 11:33 am
#218 church – like chch but pronounceable: You probably know then who I was referring to as the perpetrators. I love the Haka and for me a favourite part of the game is the Anthems. I remember Mark Andrews singling “flower of Scotland” lustily alongside the Scots in Edinburgh, in reverence to his forefathers….they loved him for that. The Haka is unique, I know the other islanders also do their Haka’s, but it doesnt move me as much.
14 Aug 2008, 11:34 am
#213 Church
What was cool was that he stopped and chatted a bit.. cant imagine many other coaches giving you the time of day!
14 Aug 2008, 11:35 am
#216 church – like chch but pronounceable: Unfortunately I even disagree with that, I just think its bad manners…anyway just my opinion. The players are used to it now, but it is not any less reprehensivle…reminds you of the thin end of the wedge.
14 Aug 2008, 11:35 am
#218 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Don’t worry, at bars here I’m usually the only one standing up, hand on chest, singing the full anthem.
That being said, at least most of our blokes stay quiet during the anthems.
14 Aug 2008, 11:35 am
#219 Church
technologically challenged am i
14 Aug 2008, 11:36 am
#222 4man: oops reprehensible dunno whats up with my typing today!!!
14 Aug 2008, 11:36 am
#220 4man:
Heck, most of the time I sing the anthem of every nation we’re playing against as well – I just love the symbolism behind me, it really moves me.
Yes, sometimes I even sing God Save The Queen… (but then instantly retch
)
14 Aug 2008, 11:37 am
#226 WP Till I Die: ha ha…yes I will have to sing it when I get my dual citizenship….but Liz is alright she actually typifies everything good about the English.
14 Aug 2008, 11:37 am
#220 4man:
It always looks better when it is not done inside Welsh changing rooms
14 Aug 2008, 11:40 am
#201 church – like chch but pronounceable: are you new here on this site ?
14 Aug 2008, 11:40 am
#12 BuckT: yep percy handled them in the world cup final pretty well. we will never know how any of the all black players will perform in a world cup final. maybe all of them pass out from all the stress and choking
14 Aug 2008, 11:40 am
#228 church – like chch but pronounceable: Arent they allowed to do it on the field in Wales…I seem to remember some press about stopping it….I would like to have that journo in my sights, while driving a good rifle.
14 Aug 2008, 11:40 am
#222 4man:
I fully agree – I feel ashamed when I’m at Newlands and the crowd boo’s an opposing kicker, I feel like I want to sink into my seat.
Unfortunately it seems as though the “winning is everything” mentality has become so endemic to school sports/sports in general that sportsmanship has been left at the wayside.
That being said it was really nice to see a schoolboy rugby match the other day, after the match the two opposing teams were shaking each other’s hands, there were even a few hugs given and jerseys being handed out.
But the best was when one of the players had put in a big tackle on an opponent that left the opponent lying, the player who put in the tackle immediately ran back to check on the guy, was present while the medics came on, apologised profusely to him and then helped him up when the medics had cleared him.
That’s the spirit that gives you goosebumps when you see it.
Play hard, but play fair, and at the end of the day respect the game.
14 Aug 2008, 11:41 am
Have anybody been following the Springbok saga?
We forget so easily. How good was our Bok team during 97 and 98 when we won 17 in a row. Percy scored some prolific tries back then. He kicked some good drop goals and place kicks.
Since then he won a World cup. He is a true legend.
14 Aug 2008, 11:41 am
ah, **** thats good!
hair of the dog they call it.
ice cold windhoek lager!
meetings in a pub are defo the way forward.
14 Aug 2008, 11:42 am
#230 louisbam: Looks like the half black players handle the stress better.
14 Aug 2008, 11:43 am
#204 rangerman: if you cant stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen
14 Aug 2008, 11:43 am
#232 WP Till I Die:
Well, some use to say rugby is a holligans game played by gentleman.
Things changed at club rugby level in WP and the boland when it became the norm to behave like holigans at rugby matches whereby people fear for their lives.
All of that flow over to booeing at newlands and so on.
14 Aug 2008, 11:44 am
#233 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: PA established he isnt a legend, as that is a myth…we have to think of a better word…maybe a personal word for Percy…unique?…but better
14 Aug 2008, 11:45 am
#232 WP Till I Die: wasnt that long ago they were booing their own too
14 Aug 2008, 11:45 am
#229 vindicated:
Are you kidding
14 Aug 2008, 11:45 am
So, is there anyone who has been following the series called springbok sage on supersport?
14 Aug 2008, 11:46 am
#226 WP Till I Die: God Save the Queen is quite stiring but many of us would like Jerusalem (In England’s green and pleasant land) as our anthem.
Makes me mad when Gavin Henson (Orange bloke who plays for Wales) does not even move his lips when the Welsh anthem is played and that is a great anthem.
Gatland, make him move his lips.
14 Aug 2008, 11:46 am
#240 church – like chch but pronounceable: are you kidding
14 Aug 2008, 11:46 am
#237 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: Yep…a friend was telling me he stopped playing as prop after he had been threatened with a knife 3 times (different games different venues), I just cannot assimilate that ****, those people are worse than hooligans.
14 Aug 2008, 11:46 am
#238 4man:
I did not see his comments. But did he mean it in a good and respectfull way, cause Percy deserves nothing but that.
14 Aug 2008, 11:47 am
reckon newlands booing is still a lot less than over in nz in the past few games or over in alcatraz where they just boo anything that isnt wearing canary yellow or not busy shagging a kangaroo
14 Aug 2008, 11:48 am
#237 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!:
Yes, the club scene in the Boland is ridiculous.
I remember a match between Van der Stel and Strand, and within about five minutes of the match there was a knife-related injury – one of the Strand loosies had gone onto the pitch with a knife stuck in his sock, then fell wrong and managed to cut himself.
I mean who the ***** takes a knife onto a rugby field?!?
14 Aug 2008, 11:48 am
national anthems before rugby games are always goosebump stuff.. the frenchies singing le marseillethingy at stade or all the oirish going oirland,oirland at croke park or l. road gives me butterflies every time. nkosi sikelele is obviously great because its our team, and Gstq at twickenham isnt powerless either! somehow though advance australia fair doesnt really get the hairs on end… maybe because subconsciously you know theres still waltzing matilda to come heheh. as far a GdNZ, its defintiely overshadowed by the haka in the ‘lets get ready to rumble’ stakes
14 Aug 2008, 11:48 am
#227 4man: Welcome to England
14 Aug 2008, 11:49 am
#244 4man:
Remember the young man from Rawsonville who was kicked in the face an died?
14 Aug 2008, 11:49 am
#242 carol meredith:
Know Henson well. Lucky bugger was porking Charlotte Church.
The Welsh anthem IS beautiful. I remember a while ago the Welsh Male Choir was touring SA, and they sang it. Absolutely stirring stuff.
14 Aug 2008, 11:49 am
#242 carol meredith: How did an Orange Irelander end up playing for Wales? Sounds like an interesting story. Big Joe cries his eyes out every time he sings the anthem and he has had 50 games (Joe van Niekerk). Must say I am a Royalist, I have an affiliation to the RCA and army units swear fealty to the Queen before their country…so Gordon Brown better watch out, the army might kick his butt out of there…now wouldnt that be a turn up for the books.
14 Aug 2008, 11:50 am
#248 salamihoelykit:
I am a big fan of “Flower of Scotland” sung by 50 000 scots at Murryfield. Now that is goozebump stuff.
14 Aug 2008, 11:50 am
#249 carol meredith: Been here since 06…followed my children, I wasnt going to be a lonely old man one day. Thanks for the happy landings
14 Aug 2008, 11:51 am
#244 4man:
Yes, that’s par for the course, I’m afraid.
Oftentimes it’s the supporters who go along who are even worse than the players. They egg them on, threaten the refs.
One match the ref was constantly being threatened by the home crowd, he bowed to their pressure and blew most of the decisions in their favour, the visiting team had to call in some security guys to protect their team afterwards.
The referee after the game credited the league points to the visiting team anyway, saying they would have won had he not been under such ridiculous pressure and threat levels.
14 Aug 2008, 11:51 am
#245 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: PA is very complimentary of Percy…he merely makes a good grammatical point.
14 Aug 2008, 11:52 am
#247 WP Till I Die:
Maybee he needed it for self defense.
14 Aug 2008, 11:53 am
#243 vindicated:
Serious question.
Are you on prescribed medication?
14 Aug 2008, 11:53 am
#250 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: yes I do, when I drove thru there 5 weeks ago…everything was covered with snow, beautiful.
14 Aug 2008, 11:55 am
I have a CD with all the anthems, full male voice choirs.
I always amaze myself that men can be so weird and have such stunning singing voices.
What’s up with that.
14 Aug 2008, 11:55 am
#256 4man:
Thats fine then.
PS. Have you seen the springbok sage series?
How good was that 97-98 boks. There was comments about how that is not just staticly but generally one of the best team in the world. Great balance and such a big strong pack. Guys like Andre Venter running in backs from behin while also being very capable of doing the hard work. Bob skinstad off the bench.
Peter Rossouw, Percy and James Small scoring a try a test etc. Those were the good times!!
14 Aug 2008, 11:56 am
#253 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!
thought about the Scots as i hit ‘submit comment’… definitely right up there
14 Aug 2008, 11:57 am
#259 4man:
I drove that way myself a few weeks back. Stunning!
14 Aug 2008, 12:00 pm
#251 WP Till I Die: Thought he still was, baby no 2 on the way!
My bottom lip always trembles when I hear a Welsh Male Voice Choir.
I get a bit emotional listining to the singing when I am at the Milennium Stadium in Cardiff even the Welsh singing “Delilah”can nearly set me off
14 Aug 2008, 12:01 pm
#261 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: I checked two of the series when there on holiday recently. I’ve been trying to get a dvd of the last world cup, it will obviously be in this now, but I will buy the whole thing when I can, as it is obviously something to keep. One would hope they just keep updating it with new dvd’s. I had a tape in the 80′s called Springbok saga, which I still look at from time to time. Naas was in his heyday then. that 97-98 team was excellent, I dont think Bobby played as well ever again.
14 Aug 2008, 12:02 pm
270
14 Aug 2008, 12:03 pm
#258 Dawn: Not that I know of
14 Aug 2008, 12:03 pm
#265 4man:
Bob was awsome off the bench. But never regained that same form after his accident.
14 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm
#238 4man: Pissant although technically correct ,has got it wrong, Percy is a legend, he has earned the right, let not a play on words take that away from him !!
14 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm
#252 4man: Gordon Brown, pass the bucket!
14 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm
#267 vindicated:
You sure act like you are.
How can you ask church if he’s new here.
Are you stupid.
14 Aug 2008, 12:05 pm
For me in order of preference
Nkosi Sikelele
Haka
Flower of Scotland
le Marselleis
Call of Ireland (I think its called that)
Waltzing Matilda (the actual anthem is rubbish, it should be “advance Australia the unfair”)
The Welsh one
God save the Queen
last is italy and Argentina.
14 Aug 2008, 12:05 pm
#260 Dawn: Woman of taste.
14 Aug 2008, 12:07 pm
#273 carol meredith:
Maybe I should lower my standards?
14 Aug 2008, 12:07 pm
#269 justrugby: legend is a myth…Percy is not a myth, he is and will remain exceptional, there has to be a superlative that fits.
14 Aug 2008, 12:07 pm
#265 4man:
Oh and then there was the Rolls Rouce himself. Whatta great 15 he was.
14 Aug 2008, 12:09 pm
Ol’ silver boots has come full circle. I still think Joubert was better, but hey, there you go.
14 Aug 2008, 12:09 pm
#273 carol meredith:
So kommon soos pienk gras!! As sy jou polisie kon vloek op die site sou sy nie n sin kon tik sonder daai woord nie.
14 Aug 2008, 12:09 pm
#252 4man: RCA?
14 Aug 2008, 12:11 pm
#277 Harlequin:
Joubert play was poetry in motion. He maid it look easy. Percy got himself into some difficult tangles.
But remember Percy braught a goal kicking and drop kicking game to the party. I am a big Jouba fan. I still think he was one of our best attacking 15′s in the history of the game.
14 Aug 2008, 12:12 pm
#276 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: Spotted him as a laaitie in Bloem. Absolutely talented natural sportmans…scratch golfer these days and still in very good shape. Spoke to him and Pieter muller quite often on the plane from joburg to Durban when they were up at Bok camps. Both very nice men, quite humble…not like old Ollie. Andre Venter, the one who is in a wheelchair now, is also an exceptionally nice man.
I’m afriad they threw the mold away after Jouba in my book, I think he is the greatest fullback ever.
14 Aug 2008, 12:14 pm
#279 WP Till I Die: Royal Cavalry Association…they asked me to join after I had been here a few weeks. The ex RSM of the Scots Dragoon Guards is a great friend of our ex RSM. As Warrant officers we also see eye to eye (not literally because he is a tank man and I am 6′ 4″)
14 Aug 2008, 12:15 pm
#271 Dawn: how can he suggest that Im new here ??
14 Aug 2008, 12:15 pm
When all the dust has settled, Percy will be remembered with the greates, like Jouba himself, and of course Gerber and even the (now Australian) Gerald Bosch.
14 Aug 2008, 12:17 pm
#278 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: Could someone do a translation please, or is he just being rude?
14 Aug 2008, 12:17 pm
Mae hen wlad fy nhaday yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mâd,
Dros ryddid collasent eu gwaed.
Gwlad! Gwlad! pleidiol wyf i’m gwlad.
Tra môr yn fur i’r bur hoff bau,
O bydded i’r hen iaith barhau.
14 Aug 2008, 12:17 pm
#284 boksbest: Is Gerald Bosch in Oz!!!! hell die manne is op pad jong.
14 Aug 2008, 12:18 pm
i like percy a lot!! jouba was better attacking fullback but percy has more value because of his boot yes. but if anyone wants to talk about the best fullback ever, do yourself the favour and search christian cullen on youtube.
14 Aug 2008, 12:18 pm
#284 boksbest:
Defenatly. 100 test and 887 test points just cannot go unnoticed.
14 Aug 2008, 12:18 pm
Aye, good old rugby match songs. Flower of Scotland, La Marseillaise, The Fields of Athenry, Swing Low Sweet Chariot, Molly Malone, Bread of Heaven, Waltzing Matilda, Shosholoza…
14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm
#290 WP Till I Die:
Of course, us Saffas stole Shosholoza from the Rhodesian migrant workers
14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm
#285 carol meredith: So kommon soos pienk gras!! As sy jou polisie kon vloek op die site sou sy nie n sin kon tik sonder daai woord nie. The inflection is about Dawn “As common as pink grass, if she could curse you like a policeman on this site she wouldnt be able to type without that word. …Its a literal translation, polisie could be police or policy.
14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm
#285 carol meredith:
My appologies Carol.
I was saying: Dawn is not the most Sophisticated woman you will evre meet. Quit the contrarary actually.
14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm
Unsurpassed
14 Aug 2008, 12:20 pm
Peerless
14 Aug 2008, 12:21 pm
#292 4man:
Thanks 4man. I enjoyed your translation. Polisie woord is egter poep maar met n s.
14 Aug 2008, 12:21 pm
#288 louisbam: close but no cigar, I rate Jouba and thats probably because I’m a Saffa. Cullen was also right up there. That Scottish guy aswell…forget his name now.
14 Aug 2008, 12:22 pm
#291 WP Till I Die:
Since when is steeling wrong?
14 Aug 2008, 12:22 pm
#290 WP Till I Die:
You should borrow my CD!
14 Aug 2008, 12:22 pm
#291 WP Till I Die: is that a fact
14 Aug 2008, 12:23 pm
Gerald Bosch single handedly defeated the All Blacks in the 80′s, Andy Leslie’s whining notwithstanding. A true legend. Pity he’s helping Barnes in Aus right now.
14 Aug 2008, 12:23 pm
#297 4man:
You are thinking of Gavin Hastings.
Cullen was a phenomonin!!
14 Aug 2008, 12:23 pm
#297 4man: im south african too.like i say jouba was brilliant. just watch what cullen could do on youtube. seriously if you saw that clip, your opinion will change.
14 Aug 2008, 12:23 pm
#274 Dawn: Well I thought going for Dan Carter was a bit ambitious.
If you do run into him do tell him to brush up on his French.
When I saw Percy play for Perpignan at Newport in January, his French was a bit rusty,( and the Catalans don’t do English). He was having to wave his arms about alot because the other backs did’t understand his instructions. It looked exhuasting. No wonder he went back to W.P
14 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm
i would rather have cullen than carter in my time
14 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm
#282 4man:
Tank men are funny people.
Always brewing tea inside their turrets.
14 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm
but i prefer naas hehehe
14 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm
The Scottish guy was Irvine. Used to kick for touch from a place kick. Awesome.
14 Aug 2008, 12:24 pm
#304 carol meredith:
Dan’s just a normal guy underneath. I’m sure.
14 Aug 2008, 12:25 pm
#291 WP Till I Die: its actually a protest song.
Shozaloza (chorus)
ch
wenu ja balega
kule zontaba
stimela sekonde South Africa
etc
14 Aug 2008, 12:27 pm
A fitting tribute to a guy who I think finally vindicated himself.
He is in my opinion one of the greatest if not greatest we’ve ever had. Many others such as Frik, Danie and Naas etc just did not do it for long enough.
Congratulations Percy!!!!!! Youré a STAR!!!
14 Aug 2008, 12:27 pm
#306 WP Till I Die: Funny you say that, the only time they got revved in the first Iraq conflict, was when they had stopped for a brew. I also fancy a cup of tea when under physical stress, more caffeine than coffee and as a pick me up it is fantastic.
14 Aug 2008, 12:27 pm
#300 vindicated:
Shosholoza arose on the Witwatersrand, being sung by work gangs in the mines. A lot of these workers were migrant Ndebeles from the then Rhodesia. The original words go as follows:
Shosholoza
Ku lezontaba
Stimela siphum’ eRhodesia
Wen’ uyabaleka
Wen’ uyabaleka
Ku lezontaba
Stimela siphum’ eRhodesia
Freely translated, it means:
Go forward on those mountains train from Rhodesia, you are running away, you are running away, on those mountains train from Rhodesia.
The migrant workers on the Rand travelled by train down from Rhodesia to work the mines.
14 Aug 2008, 12:28 pm
Definition of ‘Greats’; noble, significant, loyal, humble, notable, remarkable, exceptionally outstanding
Percy is a Springbok great, alongside Naas, Gerber, Oom Frik, and a few others.
Dont read too much into it 4Man!
It was part of an article I did and I just thought because the word legend is used so often there must be a better way to describe Percy, and even so-called ‘legends’ before him.
The definitions of the words are correct though, it is not made up.
14 Aug 2008, 12:29 pm
#313 WP Till I Die: there we are, thats why we have you young guys around…you did it better than me, I had some Zulu stuff in there.
14 Aug 2008, 12:30 pm
#314 PissAnt: I’m not dont worry, merely making the world go along. Legend, as in *** etc has lost its true meaning over time.
14 Aug 2008, 12:32 pm
#303 louisbam:
I saw some of his runs against the boks on the springbok saga series. I am suprised that people don’t talk about him more. His ability to score brilliant individual tries is unmatched in my book.
14 Aug 2008, 12:32 pm
#313 WP Till I Die:
Speaking of Rhodesia, they had a beautiful anthem called Rise O Voices of Rhodesia, sung to the tune of “Ode to Joy” (the same tune now adopted by the European Union as anthem), from the last movement of Beethoven’s 9th Symphony. Some of you might know it better as the tune to “Praat ek mense eng’le tale”.
14 Aug 2008, 12:33 pm
#318 WP Till I Die: I remember it well.
14 Aug 2008, 12:34 pm
#317 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: he was not human. i have no other words to describe him. 44 tries or something in 58 tests proves that
14 Aug 2008, 12:36 pm
#320 louisbam: The Lomu, Cullen combination was awesome, they used to play off each other. Wonder what Christian is doing now…would be nice if he was coaching some laaities somewhere.
14 Aug 2008, 12:37 pm
#320 louisbam:
And yet not many speak of him.
14 Aug 2008, 12:37 pm
#321 4man: yep would be even better if those laaities were south african
14 Aug 2008, 12:37 pm
Speaking of club anthems, they have such beautiful ones in the UK, like The Fields of Athenry and Swing Low Sweet Chariot etc.
What do we have?
“Go Bulle Go” and “1-2-3-4 Province”
We are a bunch of savages…
14 Aug 2008, 12:38 pm
#322 Brickwall: Don’t run into it!: one day… i’ll teach my children about him hehehe
14 Aug 2008, 12:40 pm
#324 WP Till I Die: Considering the two teams you are talking about…I would agree, but you must try and get over it and visit Durban a few times to pick up some culture
14 Aug 2008, 12:40 pm
#324 WP Till I Die: true… but if we were paying as much attention to poetry and singing as they do, our rugby would be just as kuk as theirs is
14 Aug 2008, 12:41 pm
Maybe thats what went wrong with Wales in the last series to SA…they came here to sing…and…oh dear.
14 Aug 2008, 12:43 pm
SA Olympic Team Manager says “political interference has affected our performance”
14 Aug 2008, 12:43 pm
#320 louisbam:
One critisism against him might be that he tended to be very individualistic. But then again he did not need to link up often since he finished the job himself so often.
14 Aug 2008, 12:50 pm
I have been trying to catch some of the Olypics here in Australia but when I flick through channels all I see is what appears to be some world swimming championships! When does the Olympics start?
14 Aug 2008, 12:52 pm
#329 vindicated
They will always interfere. My respect for PdV is growing – he is his own man, just like other great coaches (Christie, Mallett, White). He picks it as he sees it.
14 Aug 2008, 12:58 pm
#331 church – like chch but pronounceable:
14 Aug 2008, 13:00 pm
#333 Dawn: Aussie ranked 3rd on Medal table behind China and USA
14 Aug 2008, 13:02 pm
#333 Dawn: have you ever been diagnosed as “passive aggressor”
14 Aug 2008, 13:08 pm
#334 vindicated:
That is sad ****. You sound like Aussie TV. Did you ever stop to think that football gets 1 gold and pool event 42. That all it appears to be about for Australians
Divide each sport by the number of medals available then add the total together … then see where things are
14 Aug 2008, 13:12 pm
#336 church – like chch but pronounceable: Sounds like sour grapes – by the way how many medals has your nation won ?
and here’s something even more sad – divide the medals won by head of population and Aussie would be first
14 Aug 2008, 13:13 pm
#336 church – like chch but pronounceable: isnt Aussie TV the worst ? have you seen the ads they have for the olympics ??
14 Aug 2008, 13:24 pm
#334 vindicated:
Where’s Russia?
14 Aug 2008, 13:24 pm
Ten best fullbacks of my time:-
1-C. Cullen……………. NZ.
2.Chris Latham………..Oz.
3. Andy Irvine …………….Scotland.
4.JPR Williams………..Wales.
5. Serge Blanco……Fr.
6.Andre Joubert……SA.
7. Gavin Hastings ……Scotland.
8 Roger Gould………..Oz.
9.Jenkins ………….Wales.
10. John Gallagher. NZ.
14 Aug 2008, 13:25 pm
#339 WP Till I Die: 6
14 Aug 2008, 13:26 pm
#339 WP Till I Die:
Right next to China
14 Aug 2008, 13:26 pm
#337 vindicated:
New Zealand are yet to win a medal.
No sour grapes …. I have always thought it a farce. Swimming actually gives out 53 medals. To measure success on a total medal count is lame
This has nothing to do with the country I am from … your issue not mine
Divide medals by head of population is also very sad **** …. since developing athletes takes money how about divide by GDP? …. or since human development requires a healthy environment how about divide by a would health index?
so we divide by GDP, a world health index, the total money invested by govenments in sports development, the average professional income of the athelete and you have what you want …. some sort of comparison
14 Aug 2008, 13:27 pm
#339 WP Till I Die:
As opposed to being in Eurasia, of course.
14 Aug 2008, 13:28 pm
#343 church – like chch but pronounceable:
You tell him, chch.
14 Aug 2008, 13:28 pm
Must say the men’s team gymnastics I saw so far is some of the worst I’ve ever witnessed.
At Olympic level they shouldn’t be falling off the bars and sitting on the pommel horse in middle of routine.
14 Aug 2008, 13:28 pm
#337 vindicated: yeah maybe, but then again, NZ does not commit even half the amount of money Aussie pours into sport…. would love to see the amount of dollars spent per medal… think that would be a truer indication…
14 Aug 2008, 13:28 pm
#338 poppa69:
I don’t watch adds …. tell me?
14 Aug 2008, 13:29 pm
#339 WP Till I Die:
Just a stone’s throw from Outer Mongolia.
14 Aug 2008, 13:32 pm
#348 church – like chch but pronounceable: theres one were the commentator is calling a race, and just the way they go on ….
14 Aug 2008, 13:33 pm
I love watching the women’s rowing. Those suits they wear are very fitting
14 Aug 2008, 13:33 pm
Having some green tea with mint.
14 Aug 2008, 13:34 pm
Hahaha,
Die nuwe blou bul anthem is so mooi….Dankie Steve…
14 Aug 2008, 13:36 pm
#351 WP Till I Die:
What’s the story with rowing?
Cocksless pairs? Skulls?
14 Aug 2008, 13:36 pm
#351 WP Till I Die:
Women’s Hockey for me Western……….they are definitely the hottest babes.
14 Aug 2008, 13:37 pm
#352 Dawn:
That’s lovely D. What’s the weather like on your side?
14 Aug 2008, 13:39 pm
#340 cane:
But the most famous will end up being Robbie Deans
14 Aug 2008, 13:40 pm
#343 church – like chch but pronounceable:
I was merely stating an indisputable fact that medal / per head of population would, as it stands, put Australia on top of the table – did I say they were the best, no
I didnt say that this is the benchmark measurement criteria for gauging Olympic success
I feel that, given your need to detail the different barometers of measurement that perhaps the issues are in fact yours
14 Aug 2008, 13:40 pm
Cane…Chch….whats Christian Cullen up to these days?
14 Aug 2008, 13:41 pm
#357 vindicated: hes got you there church…. now if only Nz had an Institute of steroids (AIS) , maybe we would win a few more too…
14 Aug 2008, 13:45 pm
#357 vindicated:
and so you persist in your silly we are the greatest statistic
i was taking the piss out of comparison tables not advocating them …. are you stupid or something
14 Aug 2008, 13:46 pm
#359 poppa69: yeah – your Institute of Mullets aint gonna get you far in terms of Olympic success
14 Aug 2008, 13:46 pm
Real colonial title for this thread.
14 Aug 2008, 13:46 pm
#352 Dawn:
Dawnie poor little girl – how are you feeling today ?
14 Aug 2008, 13:47 pm
#360 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Church ! Calm yourself
14 Aug 2008, 13:48 pm
#356 Sheriff:
Beautiful day here!
#364 Rugby_Princess:
OK, just a bit miz. I always drink green tea anyway!
14 Aug 2008, 13:49 pm
#364 Rugby_Princess:
If you read earlier in the thread then you will find some debate about trolling. I am helping Vindicated with the concept … shhh don’t tell
14 Aug 2008, 13:50 pm
#361 church – like chch but pronounceable:
He is stupid!!!!
14 Aug 2008, 13:50 pm
#358 4man:
I think he is a Rugby Developement Mgr, or some such thing for the Wellington RU.
14 Aug 2008, 13:52 pm
#361 vindicated: true … maybe Warnie could send us some of his diuretic tablets ??
14 Aug 2008, 13:52 pm
Australia went to the Olympics with a team member saying that other team members were taking restricted substances …. why didn’t Australia just do the honourable thing and test their team and get rid of the cheats?
Why test when they can cheat and maybe win more medals
14 Aug 2008, 13:54 pm
#370 church – like chch but pronounceable: whats worse is Tamsyn Lewis attacking her competitors before even arriving in Beijing…. we all know theres drug cheats, wouldnt surprise me if a few of the Aussies were, yet she has the audacity to do a PDV and label her competition cheats before they even start…. …
14 Aug 2008, 13:55 pm
#371 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Australia hasn’t been that flash anyway.
What medals have they won. All the trap shooting ones?
14 Aug 2008, 13:56 pm
#360 church – like chch but pronounceable:
yes calm down – and dont put words into my mouth
where did I say “we are the greatest”
thats something in your head – thats your issue
14 Aug 2008, 13:56 pm
#365 Dawn:
Poor girl – is anyone looking after you ? Bringing you that tea ?
#366 church – like chch but pronounceable:
You are bored & pulling the wings off flies to amuse yourself is what you are doing
Cane !
14 Aug 2008, 13:58 pm
#365 Dawn:
Well that’s good to hear.
I’m looking 4ward to a lovely game on Sat.
Green tea. I knew you were a Bok fan, but that is certainly a level of commitment that I have not attained yet.
14 Aug 2008, 14:00 pm
#374 Rugby_Princess:
Just no fun here …. too many flies
14 Aug 2008, 14:01 pm
#374 Rugby_Princess:
Princess !!
14 Aug 2008, 14:01 pm
#375 Rugby_Princess:
Not at all.
I give and I give and what do I get? Nada!
14 Aug 2008, 14:03 pm
#373 vindicated:
You get back in your box too
14 Aug 2008, 14:06 pm
And good evening to Are Peeh!
14 Aug 2008, 14:08 pm
feels like i have walked straight into a bar brawl!
14 Aug 2008, 14:08 pm
Speaking of medals – how is SA doing
14 Aug 2008, 14:08 pm
#365 Dawn:
I’m drinking Seagars Gin. Duty Free ……..US$12.00 a bottle.
I’m down to my last bottle, so I’ll have to get the Huskies bridled up and head out to the Trading Post for more supplies.
14 Aug 2008, 14:09 pm
#375 Sheriff:
Where is your national spirit ?
#377 cane:
Getting excited ?
#378 Dawn:
Poor little girl ! They are all so cruel
14 Aug 2008, 14:12 pm
#382 BuckT:
Hello papa
14 Aug 2008, 14:13 pm
#383 petoors: ask Dawn, I think she’s keeping count
14 Aug 2008, 14:13 pm
#385 Rugby_Princess:
Yeah, maybe you have a point.
Watch the news last night, saw the ABs…
They such a professional side.
14 Aug 2008, 14:14 pm
#384 cane: you know your sugar cane, distill some…..ever heard of a thin wort?
14 Aug 2008, 14:14 pm
#382 BuckT: You got Mail!
Afternoon everyone!
14 Aug 2008, 14:15 pm
#383 petoors: they’ve won the same amount as New Zealand
14 Aug 2008, 14:16 pm
#386 Rugby_Princess: hello! how are the budget cuts going?
14 Aug 2008, 14:16 pm
#388 Sheriff:
& the anti-oxidants are good for you !
Well, they do try
14 Aug 2008, 14:18 pm
#392 BuckT:
Not well … I have a budget without unit costs
14 Aug 2008, 14:18 pm
#390 sondebok: hello! you have been holding out on us? what’s your handicap? shooting level par scores at paarl during high school?!
14 Aug 2008, 14:18 pm
NZ just had a bloke by the name of Swanepoel come 2nd in his heat for the 100m Butterfly…
14 Aug 2008, 14:20 pm
#393 Rugby_Princess:
Yeah I try RP.
I try to strike a balance, hard as it may be…
No, the ABs are just awesome. Like I said yesterday, NZ plays rugby the way it should be played…
14 Aug 2008, 14:20 pm
#383 petoors: still only gold for the highjack
14 Aug 2008, 14:20 pm
#389 BuckT:
Sounds like a tree with bean like seed pods?
But I think not.
14 Aug 2008, 14:23 pm
#395 BuckT: I`ve been neglecting the golf over the last few years due to excessive nocturnal activities, but last weeks back nine convinced me I could still play a bit. No official handicap at the mo due to not being a member of a club, but I`ll be changing that soon.
14 Aug 2008, 14:23 pm
#396 poppa69:
He (Swanepoel) is SA born. Still has the accent I think.
14 Aug 2008, 14:23 pm
China’s first ever win in womens waterpolo last night was amazing … they knocked over the number 2 seeds Russia. Pitty they were drawn in the group of death
14 Aug 2008, 14:24 pm
#397 Sheriff:
I have seen you strike occasionally … Well bless you bunny 
Or trying
Tell me – what is the designated charity the Boks support ?
14 Aug 2008, 14:24 pm
#385 Rugby_Princess:
Please, por favor.
No more “poor little girl”, or “ag shame”
I’m a big girl now.
14 Aug 2008, 14:24 pm
#401 cane: got the right name for it…
14 Aug 2008, 14:25 pm
#401 cane:
I am hanging out for the triathlons but not sure if Aussie TV will show them
14 Aug 2008, 14:26 pm
#404 Dawn:
Everybody is a poor little girl when they are ill – is meant kindly.
14 Aug 2008, 14:27 pm
#404 Dawn:
too much time on the couch Dawn
just kidding
14 Aug 2008, 14:27 pm
#384 cane:
Sounds like you are out at some ranch or something, or possibly prospecting for gold.
14 Aug 2008, 14:30 pm
#403 Rugby_Princess:
Bunny? As in funny bunny?
Are you trying to hurt my feelings?
Not sure. I think there’s several, like the Petro Jackson fund for injured players.
I know some of the Boks run soup kitchens etc.
14 Aug 2008, 14:31 pm
What the article only hints at is that Monty started his career in the slipstream of one of THE great fullbacks, nay players, of all time – the author himself, Andre Joubert. Was there ever a man who made the game look so effortless in every critical fullback skill ?
So no wonder it took a while to warm himself to the SA crowds, many a man has been lost in the shadow of great players.
He deserves his kudos for, if nothing else, the longevity shown thru 100caps. Joost never made it, Fitzy never made it and certainly the Frik du Preezs and Pinetree Meads of the past took twice as long for half as many. He would probably not make too many Alltime XVs but he has survived coaches, transformation policies and challenges from younger players. Fair dues.
And, just for old times sake for your AB fan club, dropping a garryowen under the posts would be just grande. Otherwise he will be duly heralded on his home turf.
14 Aug 2008, 14:31 pm
#410 Sheriff:
You are the bunny … Dawn is the boiler
just kidding again Dawn
14 Aug 2008, 14:33 pm
#406 church – like chch but pronounceable:
While we have a show chch…………………..man it’s tough to get a medal.
I think we may end up with 2 Golds.
Womens Shot……and….Single Skulls.
A few silvers,……….. canoeing,triathalon,rowing.
And maybe a bronze or two from the sailing.
14 Aug 2008, 14:34 pm
#407 Rugby_Princess:
No worries.
14 Aug 2008, 14:34 pm
#409 WP Till I Die: THE Ranch, in Kraaifontein.
14 Aug 2008, 14:35 pm
#413 cane:
I just like the triathlons
14 Aug 2008, 14:35 pm
#406 church – like chch but pronounceable: depends, if they are a chance of medalling, then you will see it , otherwise, you have no chance… its funny, there are so many countries competing, yet if you watch it on Aussie Tv, theres only 3, U.S.A , China and Aussie…. was the same in 2000 (when they hosted)….
can appreciate that the majority SHOULD be on Aussie competitors, but there are other nationalities that live here, Im sure they wouldnt mind seeing their countires compete occassionally…
14 Aug 2008, 14:36 pm
ANC vindicated as CIA admits to controlling Scorpions, inventing Aids
DURBAN. The U.S.’s Central Intelligence Agency has admitted to allegations levelled against it by ANC supporters in KwaZulu-Natal, conceding that it is controlling the Scorpions crime-busting unit and that it invented Aids. It added that it had been “totally outwitted” by the ANC cadres who made the allegations at public hearings over the fate of the Scorpions.
The hearings, currently being held nationwide to give South African citizens a say in whether or not the Scorpions should be disbanded, are called ‘Why We Are Disbanding The Scorpions’, and the ANC says the Durban sessions have been exceptionally well attended.
It denied that the turnout was directly proportional to the quantity of free finger snacks available at each venue.
The controversy erupted this week when delegates were widely quoted in the national media as calling for the dismantling of the Scorpions on the grounds that the elite investigative unit was being controlled by the CIA, and that the American spy agency had also invented Aids to decimate Africa.
They said that the accusations were based on “extensive evidence” gleaned from pamphlets ordered off the Internet, as well as the testimony of local teenager Tampax Balindlela who had been visited in a dream by a talking frog who had told her of the CIA’s involvement.
Experts had expected the CIA to rubbish the claims, but this morning the Washington-based agency conceded that both allegations were true.
“We don’t know how these simple people uncovered the truth, but they did,” CIA director Theodore Machiavelli told journalists this morning.
He grudgingly praised the KwaZulu-Natal ANC’s members for their “incredible ability to join dots, even when those dots weren’t on the same page, or weren’t even dots to start with.”
“Many people would stop and think: why would the CIA want to control the Scorpions? Surely we’ve got more pressing issues to address than a grubby power struggle between two grubby factions struggling for control of a grubby little country that has no strategic interest to the United States?
“Likewise many would ask why, if we wanted to decimate Africa, we would invent a disease like Aids, which is difficult to transmit and takes years to kill its victims.
“Why wouldn’t we just put contraceptives in the water supply, or release an airborne strain of Ebola into the air-conditioners at OR Tambo International?”
But, he added, the ANC’s supporters had “looked beyond logic, probed beyond facts, searched beyond common-sense, and used organs other than their brains” to unearth the truth.
Asked why the CIA had invested so much time and effort in destroying South Africa’s institutions, Machiavelli said that it was because the agency was “just plain evil”.
Meanwhile the ANC in KwaZulu-Natal has welcomed the admission, and has called for Tampax Balindlela to be given an honorary degree in the Humanities and a lifetime supply of ANC-themed peak caps.
14 Aug 2008, 14:36 pm
#403 Rugby_Princess: The New Zealand Trauma Council.
14 Aug 2008, 14:37 pm
#414 Dawn:
Didn’t know you were ill. Stay cozy with ya cuppa then
14 Aug 2008, 14:38 pm
#399 cane: think it’s a kind of distilling process..
14 Aug 2008, 14:40 pm
#403 Rugby_Princess: WCW anonymous
the second w = withdrawal
14 Aug 2008, 14:40 pm
#409 WP Till I Die:
I’m snowed in and surrounded by hostiles. The gin is being rationed and the huskies are starving.
Dire times lay ahead.
14 Aug 2008, 14:40 pm
#412 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Why do you hate me, church?
14 Aug 2008, 14:41 pm
#419 sondebok: you must listen to your wife…wise women…got the mail thanks, will respond
14 Aug 2008, 14:41 pm
#417 poppa69:
I watched highlights this morning and what you say is true. They showed about 5 rowing heats and they label the Austrlian lane ….they also label the China and USA lanes if they are going well (the highlight is not shown at all unless Australia qualify).
I was left guessing who the other countries were!
14 Aug 2008, 14:42 pm
#423 cane:
Where are you?
#424 Sheriff:
We will always have Paris
14 Aug 2008, 14:45 pm
#419 sondebok:
the ABs official charity is the KidsCan Charitable Trust which helps disadvantaged children in NZ.
Was a serious question mister smarty pants
Although a number of the players also work with various charities of their own eg; before hoping on a plane to come to RSA Richie & Dan hosted a fund raiser for Asthma Research in NZ.
#410 Sheriff:
Was an endearment … but I take it back now
14 Aug 2008, 14:49 pm
Sir Percy….. the Count of Bokkeland……. I bow before your remarkable achievement.
You are still the No 1 Full Back in SA……. by a Country Mile !
I hope you have an awesome game, the best you’ve ever had…. you deserve it !
Goooooooooiiiiiiii Mieliessssssss !!
14 Aug 2008, 14:51 pm
#422 BuckT:
Makes me want to send your daughter a life time supply of Black T Shirts …
14 Aug 2008, 14:53 pm
#427 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Keo is a robust platform, one must be able to bounce back quickly.
Looking forward to your objectivity in that other matter.
14 Aug 2008, 14:53 pm
#427 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Lower Hutt.(I think).
But I have been reincarnated many times over the millenium, and sometimes the walls between the dimensions rupture or crack, causing some confusion as to my current persona………………these bars on the phucken windows and this straight jacket don’t help either. I have type with my teeth.
14 Aug 2008, 14:55 pm
#428 Rugby_Princess:
Thank you Princess.
I knew you would not go out and wilfully hurt my feelings. It’s just not the way I see you.
Others like chch would not hesitate to finish me off, if they could. Why does he hate me so much?
14 Aug 2008, 14:56 pm
#428 Rugby_Princess: No offence meant
I was thinking back to our conversation about spilled blood etc and spotted an opportunity. Truth is, I don`t know. You having a bad day?
#425 BuckT: That`s exactly what she keeps telling me; I should listen to her more often!
14 Aug 2008, 14:57 pm
#430 Rugby_Princess:
Don’t hold a grudge against the Lawman………..He is all there is between sanity and chaos.
14 Aug 2008, 14:57 pm
#432 cane:
That fullback from the Hurricanes is from Lower Hutt
Where the fark is that!
14 Aug 2008, 14:58 pm
#436 Dawn:
It”s just south of Upper Hutt.
14 Aug 2008, 15:00 pm
#437 cane:
14 Aug 2008, 15:00 pm
yeeeeeeeha!
the ranger rides again!
14 Aug 2008, 15:01 pm
wheres that rodent vindicated?
14 Aug 2008, 15:02 pm
#429 grootblousmile: Afternoon sir, you really impressed me yesterday with your tribute to Pink Floyd. One of the greatest gifts my dad has passed on to me is a love for Pink Floyd. David Gilmour`s guitar work is amazing, proving beyond doubt that the space between notes is as important as the notes themselves.
14 Aug 2008, 15:05 pm
#433 Sheriff:
Why have you suddenly become a pu$$y ?
#434 sondebok:
No, was just a serious question … am I not permitted them ?
#435 cane:
We are in deep k*k then
14 Aug 2008, 15:05 pm
#436 Dawn:
We are not a big City…. Peri Weepu and Tana Umanga, along with the Waldron Bros, are our favourite sons.
(And we don’t like Dingo’s, due to a sellection issue going back to the late 70′s).
14 Aug 2008, 15:06 pm
#439 rangerman:
And a very good afternoon to the Ranger!
Definitely noticed your absence here today.
14 Aug 2008, 15:06 pm
#441 sondebok: you think curbain was a gilmore fan?
RP’s frivolous use of smileys are often misinterpreted
#430 Rugby_Princess: thanks rp, she will need something to polish all her trophies
14 Aug 2008, 15:07 pm
#443 cane:
Can I come visit?
14 Aug 2008, 15:08 pm
#442 Rugby_Princess:
See. More hurtful things.
He wont answer me Princess, why does he hate me so much?
14 Aug 2008, 15:08 pm
#444 Sheriff: howdy sheriff!
one thing i have noticed is that when you hold a diamond, you are surrounded by coal.
business is war!
14 Aug 2008, 15:09 pm
#439 rangerman: hey there kemosabe, hope your ear is not stuck to the ground!
14 Aug 2008, 15:10 pm
#445 BuckT:
I will teach her that Black is best !
#447 Sheriff:
Come on now “man up” !
14 Aug 2008, 15:12 pm
#442 Rugby_Princess: Do as thou will shalt be the whole of the law. – Anton La Vey.
14 Aug 2008, 15:12 pm
#438 Dawn:
That was not a funny Dawnie……..We are just south of Upper Hutt.
On the banks of the Hutt River.
In the Hutt Valley…………
We even got a Pizza Hutt……
and even though he is not one of Ours…….we have a great affection for Jubba the Hutt.
We are an Ancient people us Hutites.
14 Aug 2008, 15:12 pm
#441 sondebok: What can I say Sondebok…. I was a young teenager in the 70′s, my older brother introduced me to Pink Floyd at a very young age…….. and till today they’re the best there ever was.
Those guys made music without the aid of fancy pansy synthisizers……. they made magic……. MAGIC STUFF !!
DEEP MUSIC !
I think Roger Waters is a GIANT !
Happy Gilmour is freekishly gifted !
I had a great evening last night !
14 Aug 2008, 15:13 pm
#449 BuckT: hau!
my umkhonto (spear) is held before me!
14 Aug 2008, 15:14 pm
#446 Dawn:
Anytime……..just don’t bring Fernly.
14 Aug 2008, 15:15 pm
#452 cane:
Twice!
#454 rangerman:
Sies! put it away.
14 Aug 2008, 15:15 pm
#448 rangerman: Hey Ranger, how`s the hangover?
#445 BuckT: Cobain had very sloppy technique.
14 Aug 2008, 15:16 pm
A cop in Cape Town who was found gulity of sexually assulting a woman prisioner
14 Aug 2008, 15:17 pm
#454 rangerman:
There are ladies present. Don’t want to see your spear dangling in front of you.
14 Aug 2008, 15:17 pm
#458 vindicated:
And don’t you wish you were him.
14 Aug 2008, 15:19 pm
#456 Dawn: naughty girl!
#457 sondebok: howdy mate. its gone, i went for another beer.
the problem was unfortunately the george and dragon’s fine draught hansa you see.
but i killed it.
14 Aug 2008, 15:19 pm
#458 vindicated: was then cleared of the offence by a police internal enquiry and is back at work
Its madness
14 Aug 2008, 15:21 pm
#453 grootblousmile: You inspired me to bring `The Final Cut` into work with me this morning. Haunting, depressing album. Very beautiful though.
14 Aug 2008, 15:21 pm
#462 vindicated:
Then leave.
14 Aug 2008, 15:21 pm
#458 vindicated: an aussie politician was found guilty of shagging a chair you ferret, now shut it.
#459 Dawn: not dangling. brandished.
14 Aug 2008, 15:22 pm
#431 Sheriff:
um, i am lost?
#432 cane:
Stop watching Lost!
#433 Sheriff:
hehe Sheriff, where will it end
#443 cane:
Cane, get over it. Mitchell made him make the phone call. The NZRU was happy for the lies to be told about the injury too
#447 Sheriff:
I think it’s your constant whining for female attention
#436 Dawn:
Not far from NZRU headquarters. Right Cane
14 Aug 2008, 15:23 pm
#465 rangerman: are you still pissed ?
14 Aug 2008, 15:24 pm
#467 vindicated: no.
why?
you feeling lucky…..?
14 Aug 2008, 15:26 pm
#461 rangerman: I remember the George`s Hansa`s. Coldest pints of Hansa I`ve ever had, I was well impressed. We went to an engagement party last night at the Waterfront where this place was charging R29 for a glass of white wine. Needless to say we left the place stone cold sober.
14 Aug 2008, 15:26 pm
#465 rangerman:
While it may not be dignified.
Shagging a chair is a victimless crime Dangerman.
14 Aug 2008, 15:29 pm
#467 vindicated:
Just pack your bags and go.
Please.
14 Aug 2008, 15:29 pm
#466 church – like chch but pronounceable:
I know. You’re jealous.
14 Aug 2008, 15:30 pm
#470 cane:
Ja. vindicated shags his chair everyday when he thinks no-one’s looking.
14 Aug 2008, 15:31 pm
#463 sondebok: Get yourself a copy of “Echoes”, you won’t be sorry !
Talking about Pink Floyd……. have you seen their Movie, The Wall…….. freegin hell… it was revolutionary for it’s time and still ageless !
14 Aug 2008, 15:31 pm
#470 cane: its funny you mention that…. apparently there was a man in China (not all there obviously) , well he tried to shag a bench, got his ****** caught and had to be freed from the chair… hilarious stuff, unlucky for him, the TV cameras were there too….
14 Aug 2008, 15:31 pm
#469 sondebok: lol, R29 in CT???
how do they justify that?
i have my table at the george booked for sat.
party we shall!!
#470 cane: this is true cane.
unless it is your co-workers chair and she finds you doing it (as i believe the case went down).
14 Aug 2008, 15:32 pm
#474 grootblousmile: with Sir Bob Geldof…. I was given a copy of the Pulse conert on CD, great stuff… massive Floyd fan here, cant beat Gilmours riffs…
14 Aug 2008, 15:34 pm
#469 sondebok: and with that voice of his, it’s amazing he was so successful…enjoyed some of his music though! i remember hearing teen spirit in San diego in 91′ . a friend gave me a tape, remember those! and thought…this is different
14 Aug 2008, 15:34 pm
#470 cane:
Listen.
The plonker vindicated goes through the news and posts one-liners he thinks will convince him that he’s in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Secretly he hopes someone will say “Relax, it’s not so bad.”
He finds this country despicable and obscene, yet he chooses to live here. Crime is not unique to SA. This ain’t the first cop to assault an inmate WORLDWIDE and he won’t be the last.
On the other hand, ******** a chair is just plain farkingwell sick.
14 Aug 2008, 15:34 pm
#468 rangerman: you shouldnt blog when you’re pissed
reminds me of most Saturday mornings at the bank – Im always telling these coloured okes that they should come into the bank pissed
14 Aug 2008, 15:34 pm
964447″>466 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Actually it’s Dr Who……………I don’t watch Lost.
14 Aug 2008, 15:36 pm
#471 Dawn: have you ever been medical tested for Passive Aggressor syndrome ?
14 Aug 2008, 15:36 pm
#470 cane: does that include the couch potatoes?
14 Aug 2008, 15:37 pm
#472 Sheriff:
not sure what of …. no still not sure
14 Aug 2008, 15:37 pm
“458 vindicated Report comment
August 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
A cop in Cape Town who was found gulity of sexually assulting a woman prisioner”
I mean, look at it! It’s dropped into the thread like a hard piece of sh*t into a toilet bowl. No context, no substance, nothing to do with anything.
14 Aug 2008, 15:38 pm
#480 vindicated:
He’s not pissed enough to f*&^k his chair.
14 Aug 2008, 15:38 pm
#480 vindicated:
You shouldn’t blog when you’re sober.
14 Aug 2008, 15:39 pm
#480 vindicated:
You shouldn’t blog at all.
14 Aug 2008, 15:39 pm
#474 grootblousmile: I`ve got the whole discography, also 2 DVD`s. The Wall is spine chilling, brilliant. If you are looking for something novel the look for the Dub Side of the Moon album by the Easy Star All Stars. It`s the Dark Side of the Moon done in a dub reggae style. It works amazingly well, not cheesy and does justice to the original. They tried the same thing with Radiohead songs (Radiodread) but that sounded contrived and missed the mark by far.
14 Aug 2008, 15:41 pm
#479 Dawn: that’s very unfair of you to write that
I posted that comment about the policeman because we should all be aware of what is happening in this country – knowledge is empowerment
If you are happy to turn a blind eye and pretend it doesn’t happen then that’s sad
But by raising awareness, by bringing it out into the light at least there is a possibility of something happening to ensure these sorts of crimes are not allowed to continue unpunished
In my book Dawn you are just as bad as the internal disciplinary body that allowed this guy back at work
Police are employed to protect the public – not to sexually molest them
14 Aug 2008, 15:41 pm
#488 Dawn: yeeha!!!!
what a weasel. why bring these comments to the table anyways.
at least mine was humorous.
14 Aug 2008, 15:41 pm
#476 rangerman:
It’s the Waterfront.
No-one goes there except tourists.
14 Aug 2008, 15:42 pm
#475 poppa69:
TV cameras………is nothing sacred these days…….for goodness sake, China with it’s one child policy what do they expect.
Actually……… just between me and you, I’ve seen some very attractive chairs.
14 Aug 2008, 15:43 pm
#490 vindicated:
Stop preaching.
I trust that the investigating body did their jobs.
Now pack your bags and get out.
14 Aug 2008, 15:43 pm
#490 vindicated: blah blah blah.
go sort your own country out chap.
start with the aborigines and “refugee camps” in the outback.
you are a nasty little piece of work.
14 Aug 2008, 15:43 pm
Percy should retire after dis game………dat situation of being outran by a prop in Duniden was embarrasing…….quit while ur are ahead, they say
14 Aug 2008, 15:44 pm
#492 Dawn: in that case….fleece away!
14 Aug 2008, 15:45 pm
#490 vindicated:
Your country elected a raciest leader for a record 3 terms and that was less than 30 years after white rule. I don’t know why you are pointing the corrupt society finger
14 Aug 2008, 15:46 pm
#489 sondebok: I’ve got Dub Side of the Moon………. and I quite like it……. somebody here on Keo actually pointed me to it many moons ago…….
Have you got some of Roger Waters’ stuff away from Pink Floyd ?
14 Aug 2008, 15:46 pm
#484 church – like chch but pronounceable:
I know you want to be like me.
(I’ve got your number, and I’m dialling it right now)
14 Aug 2008, 15:47 pm
#498 church – like chch but pronounceable: thats the point.
he is here to troll and make the most of this forum as a way of venting his own inadequacies.
really sad.
14 Aug 2008, 15:48 pm
#498 church – like chch but pronounceable:
and why you pointing the race finger ?
14 Aug 2008, 15:48 pm
#478 BuckT: Nirvana was never about great musicianship. They captured the spirit of the age perfectly and single-handedly defined generation-x. The anger, hurt, energy and power expressed through their music and the ultimate futility at the end of it all is what made them a great band. IMHO.
~it`s better to explode than to fizzle away~
14 Aug 2008, 15:51 pm
#500 Sheriff:
Has this got something to do with interior decorating?
14 Aug 2008, 15:51 pm
#503 sondebok: ja, pearl jam, nirvana, soundgarden, black crows etc etc.
the soundtrack of a generations lives.
14 Aug 2008, 15:52 pm
#476 rangerman:
That Dangermaqn is a completely different scenario………….if there is someone in da chair………Da Chairwomen, or God forbid, the Chairman has ever right to feel put out.
Scary stuff…….
14 Aug 2008, 15:52 pm
#502 vindicated:
To show that every time you point your finger, 3 fingers point back at you
14 Aug 2008, 15:53 pm
#485 Dawn: and you know I posted that first part before I could finish the whole post
So what you think is “dropped into the thread like a hard piece of sh*t into a toilet bowl” wasnt meant to be
You need to lighten up a little bit
14 Aug 2008, 15:57 pm
#508 vindicated: funny, you still havent finished it.
finish it.
14 Aug 2008, 15:58 pm
#508 vindicated:
Liar.
14 Aug 2008, 15:59 pm
#492 Dawn:It wasn`t by choice I can tell you. I used to work at the Waterfront, so I avoid that place if at all possible.
#499 grootblousmile: Well well well! I`ve got the Pro`s and Con`s of Hitchhiking. I`ve also got Syd Barret`s Stoned in Copenhagen. Space cadet that man was. Did you ever get to check out the Drive by Truckers I suggested a while ago?
14 Aug 2008, 16:02 pm
#498 church – like chch but pronounceable:
Now, now chch………………….While Aussie may not be the perfect country…………it’s still a phucken good one.
For someone sitting in a wonderfull City like Brisbane, you seem embittered beyond reason. the good folk of Brisbane deserve better.
14 Aug 2008, 16:02 pm
Anyway, let me work a bit on a Server and a Notebook…… whilst listening to Dub Side of the Moon…..
It’s lekka to have your office right next to your house, not to have to navigate rush hour traffic twice a day…… have the music on….. smoke… raid the fridge every so often……….
Chat later…
14 Aug 2008, 16:02 pm
#494 Dawn:
Passive Aggression
it occurs when someone is frustrated, but not assertive enough to express it in a direct way.
14 Aug 2008, 16:03 pm
#504 church – like chch but pronounceable:
I ran a test just now with RP. The moment I come across as weak and vulnerable, it frustrates her.
And why is that?
Cause it does not match the hero-image that she built up of meover time.
You honestly cannot blame me for that. You know me, I’m just myself.
I know you will understand what I mean.
14 Aug 2008, 16:03 pm
#513 grootblousmile:
Ja ouboet, vryf maar in.
14 Aug 2008, 16:04 pm
Good night Princess, Dawn, Cane, Rangerman and others (that includes you Sheriff)
ingat palagi
14 Aug 2008, 16:06 pm
#510 Dawn: no im not – it was an honest mistake to post it twice – I admit the way its looks is strange but it wasnt deliberate
Its the biggest story in Cape Town right now – so its not as if it isnt topical
14 Aug 2008, 16:07 pm
#517 church – like chch but pronounceable:
I dont know what to do anymore, honestly.
I really have the upperhand, when it comes to me and church
14 Aug 2008, 16:07 pm
#512 cane:
The comment was reserved just for him …. not sure why he is harrising the South Africans
#515 Sheriff:
Miss assessment I think. People where she lives don’t get emotional in public
14 Aug 2008, 16:08 pm
#518 vindicated:
Why are you obsessed with Dawn?
14 Aug 2008, 16:08 pm
#519 Sheriff:
oh, another miss assessment
14 Aug 2008, 16:09 pm
magandang gabe
14 Aug 2008, 16:09 pm
#514 vindicated:
Blah blah.
You not intelligent enough to define passive aggression.
You’ve been struggling to spell it properly for the last 100 posts.
14 Aug 2008, 16:10 pm
#524 Dawn:
I love it when your mad Dawn. Chok dee
14 Aug 2008, 16:10 pm
Good Afternoon all, for those of you having a great day – keep it that way, for those of you having a bad day – look for the bear necessities, the simple bear necessities, forget about your worries and your strife.
14 Aug 2008, 16:11 pm
#520 church – like chch but pronounceable:
She knows I’m joking.
Why is it that you just cannot beat me? I constantly out-blog you.
JUST JOKING CHURCH, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT MATE!
14 Aug 2008, 16:13 pm
#526 sondebok:
Cheers Sonde, sorry mate I only saw your post yesterday afterwards!
Going for a run on the beach? If so, enjoy!!
14 Aug 2008, 16:14 pm
#521 Sheriff:
That is a very good question.
14 Aug 2008, 16:15 pm
#520 church – like chch but pronounceable: where am I harrasing South Africans ??
Im commenting on a topical story in the city in which i live
You on the other hand are just jumping on the bandwagon
Let me know when you’ve worked out where you actually fit in
Im an Aussie loving living in Cape Town and South Africa – how about you ?
are you one of the run-aways ?
14 Aug 2008, 16:17 pm
#524 Dawn: ask the doctor to spell it
14 Aug 2008, 16:19 pm
#530 vindicated: you fit in with the general stereotype of a loud mothed aussie.
chch has more brains and mana/ubuntu in his fingernail than you.
14 Aug 2008, 16:20 pm
#531 vindicated:
Why don’t you ask the doctor.
You obviously can’t spell it.
#530 vindicated:
Liar. You hate it here.
14 Aug 2008, 16:22 pm
well, were only 20 mins into the game and already its looking a little one-sided.
vindictive wanderers 0 dawnranger united 5
wanderers are looking out of sorts and grabbing loose balls to try to make an impression but seem to be getting nowhere.
united, on the other hand, are playing a structured game and are keeping wanderers baffled
14 Aug 2008, 16:23 pm
#534 charo:
14 Aug 2008, 16:24 pm
#534 charo:
14 Aug 2008, 16:24 pm
#529 Dawn:
Shame Dawn. Are you not too harsh on this guy?
He honestly adores you.
He always seeks you out.
14 Aug 2008, 16:37 pm
bored here sitting in luanda. thank goodness for the odd little scrap on keo. wish walla was around so i could abuse him.
anyway, back to good ol sa tomorrow, just in time to see the mighty boks deliver the coup de grace
14 Aug 2008, 16:49 pm
#538 charo:
Travel safely mate!
14 Aug 2008, 17:17 pm
Dawn leaves and all the puppies follow
14 Aug 2008, 18:19 pm
#539 Sheriff:
thanks sheriff – on taag, the national airline, which doesn´´t have the greatest safety record.
15 Aug 2008, 00:32 am
Ja Percy is truly a Bok great – and long may it last. And those were great comments from another Bok great. Juba, the Rolls Royce of fullbacks. Only he would have been selected, even with a broken thumb, ahead of the 2nd choice f/b , for a RWC final!! What a king!
You too Percy – they fact that you have been there through so mny coaches ins in itself amazing – obviously there is universal recognition of class there.
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