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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1008184</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007822&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;42 SodaJoe&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well said Joe.

They are afraid of the unknown.
Some refinements may need to be made, but in general ..........the players, the fans, the Refs, all seem to prefer these new laws.

I think an 80% endorsement from s14 Players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007822" rel="nofollow">42 SodaJoe</a>: </p>
<p>Well said Joe.</p>
<p>They are afraid of the unknown.<br />
Some refinements may need to be made, but in general &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.the players, the fans, the Refs, all seem to prefer these new laws.</p>
<p>I think an 80% endorsement from s14 Players.</p>
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		<title>By: Puma</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1008033</link>
		<dc:creator>Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1008019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;47 ka meti ka meti&lt;/a&gt;: Yes agree too but they are still learning too with the new rules.  Just nice that the Brisbane game will have a SA ref.  Hope it goes well.  Good luck to the Ab&#039;s too.  Hope they take it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1008019" rel="nofollow">47 ka meti ka meti</a>: Yes agree too but they are still learning too with the new rules.  Just nice that the Brisbane game will have a SA ref.  Hope it goes well.  Good luck to the Ab&#8217;s too.  Hope they take it.</p>
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		<title>By: ka meti ka meti</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1008019</link>
		<dc:creator>ka meti ka meti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007414&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;31 Puma&lt;/a&gt;: Agree there mate, the aussies were #$# and the NZders were not far behind. The saffers and some of the N hemisphere refs were far better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007414" rel="nofollow">31 Puma</a>: Agree there mate, the aussies were #$# and the NZders were not far behind. The saffers and some of the N hemisphere refs were far better</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley21</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007952</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my prediction wil b a DRAW 4 NEXT YEARS B AND I LIONS TOUR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my prediction wil b a DRAW 4 NEXT YEARS B AND I LIONS TOUR</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley21</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007951</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I the new rules ,dnt knw what the nh is complaining about. theyll never dominate the south]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I the new rules ,dnt knw what the nh is complaining about. theyll never dominate the south</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007920</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm.. the British Lions have refused to accept ANY yarpie refs for their tour -- even for the provincial games!  How&#039;s that for a vote of no-confidence in SA home-town refs, hey?  The ghost of Gert Bezuidenhout sweeps over the highveld still ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.. the British Lions have refused to accept ANY yarpie refs for their tour &#8212; even for the provincial games!  How&#8217;s that for a vote of no-confidence in SA home-town refs, hey?  The ghost of Gert Bezuidenhout sweeps over the highveld still &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Flametop</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007901</link>
		<dc:creator>Flametop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007822&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;42 SodaJoe&lt;/a&gt;: 

howzit soda

What happens if an experiment fails?

(one interpretation is if NZ don&#039;t win in 2011)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007822" rel="nofollow">42 SodaJoe</a>: </p>
<p>howzit soda</p>
<p>What happens if an experiment fails?</p>
<p>(one interpretation is if NZ don&#8217;t win in 2011)</p>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007822</link>
		<dc:creator>SodaJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re still called &quot;Experimental&quot; law variations. 

There was uncertainty in SH before implementation as well, but as players and fans got used to it they realized that it was superior, with some improvements to be made. 

I think it will be the same in the NH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re still called &#8220;Experimental&#8221; law variations. </p>
<p>There was uncertainty in SH before implementation as well, but as players and fans got used to it they realized that it was superior, with some improvements to be made. </p>
<p>I think it will be the same in the NH.</p>
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		<title>By: Clanerk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007706</link>
		<dc:creator>Clanerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone, I&#039;ve created a Guinness Premiership pool on SuperBru. 
Everyone&#039;s welcome to join in.

Pool name : Keo&#039;s GP
Pool code  :swadloft

Big Hit, put your money where your mac is. All the UK based muppits, give it a go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone, I&#8217;ve created a Guinness Premiership pool on SuperBru.<br />
Everyone&#8217;s welcome to join in.</p>
<p>Pool name : Keo&#8217;s GP<br />
Pool code  :swadloft</p>
<p>Big Hit, put your money where your mac is. All the UK based muppits, give it a go.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007691</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;36 Durban Poison&lt;/a&gt;: yes, Rugby League]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007591" rel="nofollow">36 Durban Poison</a>: yes, Rugby League</p>
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		<title>By: Durban Poison</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007688</link>
		<dc:creator>Durban Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007609&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;38 Spencer 19&lt;/a&gt;: Good call. We&#039;ll develop and implement suitable tactics as soon as I&#039;ve caught my breath!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007609" rel="nofollow">38 Spencer 19</a>: Good call. We&#8217;ll develop and implement suitable tactics as soon as I&#8217;ve caught my breath!</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer 19</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007609</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer 19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;36 Durban Poison&lt;/a&gt;: 
The ELVs require improved decision making. It is not mandatory to tap and go every time a short arm is awarded. I think it takes time to develop and implement suitable tactics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007591" rel="nofollow">36 Durban Poison</a>:<br />
The ELVs require improved decision making. It is not mandatory to tap and go every time a short arm is awarded. I think it takes time to develop and implement suitable tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoops</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007604</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont see how anyone ca feel the ELV are crap?

I love good rugby, but hate it when it is one penelty after the other which a ref decides on and then the final score is 12-9!

For pete&#039;s sake......I always feel the team going to score tries is the one who deserves the win! Not the one kicking every opertunity it gets!!!

My 2 cents worth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont see how anyone ca feel the ELV are <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>?</p>
<p>I love good rugby, but hate it when it is one penelty after the other which a ref decides on and then the final score is 12-9!</p>
<p>For pete&#8217;s sake&#8230;&#8230;I always feel the team going to score tries is the one who deserves the win! Not the one kicking every opertunity it gets!!!</p>
<p>My 2 cents worth!</p>
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		<title>By: Durban Poison</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007591</link>
		<dc:creator>Durban Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not too sure how many of you boytjies still play the game, but while I enjoyed the viewing spectacle of the Super 14 and Tri-nations with the ELVs, playing with them at amateur level is totally exhausting, and frustrating. We started our new rugby season, and boy I&#039;ve never felt that exhausted after a game; apart from the confusion, as it&#039;s really difficult to ref. Okay, while I agree fitness and conditioning should be part of every level of the game, I don&#039;t think rugby with the ELVs will attract the fatties and slackers - you know the guys I&#039;m talking about :-) Rugby used to be a game for all shapes and sizes, and that&#039;s what made it so special. Since playing the game with the ELVs, I really feel that rugby has been revolutionised in such a way that it&#039;s no longer recognisable as the game we know - the only size that it caters for now is a big strong fast player e.g. Pierre Spies. How good or bad it is for the game at large, only time will tell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too sure how many of you boytjies still play the game, but while I enjoyed the viewing spectacle of the Super 14 and Tri-nations with the ELVs, playing with them at amateur level is totally exhausting, and frustrating. We started our new rugby season, and boy I&#8217;ve never felt that exhausted after a game; apart from the confusion, as it&#8217;s really difficult to ref. Okay, while I agree fitness and conditioning should be part of every level of the game, I don&#8217;t think rugby with the ELVs will attract the fatties and slackers &#8211; you know the guys I&#8217;m talking about <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Rugby used to be a game for all shapes and sizes, and that&#8217;s what made it so special. Since playing the game with the ELVs, I really feel that rugby has been revolutionised in such a way that it&#8217;s no longer recognisable as the game we know &#8211; the only size that it caters for now is a big strong fast player e.g. Pierre Spies. How good or bad it is for the game at large, only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer 19</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007515</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer 19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that the IRB will discuss each of the ELVs separately, and vote on each one separately. I agree with this as hopefully the ELVs that add value will be retained and those that don’t work will be dropped. 
The problem with multiple variations of laws being trialled relates to politics and hidden agenda. I actually feel that the reluctance of the &quot;old world&quot; to give the ELVs a reasonable trial has caused this fragmented approach. Unfortunately the culture of the UK means they will always be resistant to change. Those UK citizens that were pioneers all left for the new world over the past 200 years!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the IRB will discuss each of the ELVs separately, and vote on each one separately. I agree with this as hopefully the ELVs that add value will be retained and those that don’t work will be dropped.<br />
The problem with multiple variations of laws being trialled relates to politics and hidden agenda. I actually feel that the reluctance of the &#8220;old world&#8221; to give the ELVs a reasonable trial has caused this fragmented approach. Unfortunately the culture of the UK means they will always be resistant to change. Those UK citizens that were pioneers all left for the new world over the past 200 years!</p>
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		<title>By: SyKoPlaya</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007445</link>
		<dc:creator>SyKoPlaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bye Guys - have a good one, and may the best teams win .............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye Guys &#8211; have a good one, and may the best teams win &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SyKoPlaya</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007432</link>
		<dc:creator>SyKoPlaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;32 Puma&lt;/a&gt;: 

It would probably become an item on the IRB agenda - then it will be a &#039;political&#039; vote that will be won be the power-players in the boardroom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007423" rel="nofollow">32 Puma</a>: </p>
<p>It would probably become an item on the IRB agenda &#8211; then it will be a &#8216;political&#8217; vote that will be won be the power-players in the boardroom</p>
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		<title>By: Puma</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007423</link>
		<dc:creator>Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens if NH just does not want to play with the ELV&#039;s?  Does it then just get dropped for next years S14 and 3N here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if NH just does not want to play with the ELV&#8217;s?  Does it then just get dropped for next years S14 and 3N here?</p>
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		<title>By: Puma</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/05/north-split-of-elvs/#comment-1007414</link>
		<dc:creator>Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007385&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;30 BokEd&lt;/a&gt;: Agree with that.  The refs were just useless this year especially the Australians.  Some of the Kiwis too though.  Now they will get one of the best refs for 3N game in Brisbane.  Of course a South African.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007385" rel="nofollow">30 BokEd</a>: Agree with that.  The refs were just useless this year especially the Australians.  Some of the Kiwis too though.  Now they will get one of the best refs for 3N game in Brisbane.  Of course a South African.</p>
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		<title>By: BokEd</title>
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		<dc:creator>BokEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1007334&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;29 Big Hit&lt;/a&gt;: The biggest downfall of the ELVs has been the officiating of them. It is ironic that the Australians, who are pushing the new laws, have the worst referees at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1007334" rel="nofollow">29 Big Hit</a>: The biggest downfall of the ELVs has been the officiating of them. It is ironic that the Australians, who are pushing the new laws, have the worst referees at the moment.</p>
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