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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1026040</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Herein lies the lesson for any Springbok looking to continue a career in Europe, while still harbouring ambitions to play Test rugby: count the cost while you count the pounds and euros.

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Indeed. That applies to every SH player going north and being selected by his home country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herein lies the lesson for any Springbok looking to continue a career in Europe, while still harbouring ambitions to play Test rugby: count the cost while you count the pounds and euros.</p>
<p>=======</p>
<p>Indeed. That applies to every SH player going north and being selected by his home country.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1021391</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackPanther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020383&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;79 Big Hit&lt;/a&gt;: 

gee, some crystal ball youve got going there. The standard of rugby in the TriN is infinitely superior to anything the north has to offer. Every match can go either way in the TriN. Compare any match in the TriN to matches involving Ireland, Scotland, Italy and even the Grand Slam Wales, and the quality on show is chalk and cheese. Periodically England and France show quality but they are never truly tested under the &#039;Autumn Internationals&#039; invloving the touring Sthern Hemisphere teams. The 6N is magnificent only for the history, the travel and the tribal rivalries. If its quality youre after then youre best to divert your eyes SOUTH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020383" rel="nofollow">79 Big Hit</a>: </p>
<p>gee, some crystal ball youve got going there. The standard of rugby in the TriN is infinitely superior to anything the north has to offer. Every match can go either way in the TriN. Compare any match in the TriN to matches involving Ireland, Scotland, Italy and even the Grand Slam Wales, and the quality on show is chalk and cheese. Periodically England and France show quality but they are never truly tested under the &#8216;Autumn Internationals&#8217; invloving the touring Sthern Hemisphere teams. The 6N is magnificent only for the history, the travel and the tribal rivalries. If its quality youre after then youre best to divert your eyes SOUTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020945</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020653&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;121 Big Hit&lt;/a&gt;: 
Correct Big Hit.
I see the potential in Steyn.He is a good player and as i said in another thread,if he had game time at international lvl not come of the bench and one position he could work at(#12),just to get accustomed to it he will be awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020653" rel="nofollow">121 Big Hit</a>:<br />
Correct Big Hit.<br />
I see the potential in Steyn.He is a good player and as i said in another thread,if he had game time at international lvl not come of the bench and one position he could work at(#12),just to get accustomed to it he will be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020944</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;111 stodders&lt;/a&gt;: 
lol
Yep sure are,Scotland owns England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020566" rel="nofollow">111 stodders</a>:<br />
lol<br />
Yep sure are,Scotland owns England.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020941</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020378&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;77 Big Hit&lt;/a&gt;: 
What would you know about winning the tri nations and what it means to OZ, NZ and SA.
What does the 6 nations mean to England?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020378" rel="nofollow">77 Big Hit</a>:<br />
What would you know about winning the tri nations and what it means to OZ, NZ and SA.<br />
What does the 6 nations mean to England?</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020935</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;65 Sheriff&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sheriff.
A loss anywhere has an impact on us,but seriously i would rather lose one in NZ and win the tri nations.
But congratulatins with your last minute win in Dunedin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020247" rel="nofollow">65 Sheriff</a>:<br />
Sheriff.<br />
A loss anywhere has an impact on us,but seriously i would rather lose one in NZ and win the tri nations.<br />
But congratulatins with your last minute win in Dunedin.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020933</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019956&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;35 Puma&lt;/a&gt;: 
Agree
we would have him in around the centres in no time and play him.He needs to be played with full games.Given the chance he will be an awesome player with games and experience under the belt.BUt of course i would prefer SA use him as they have been,every position and limted game time. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1019956" rel="nofollow">35 Puma</a>:<br />
Agree<br />
we would have him in around the centres in no time and play him.He needs to be played with full games.Given the chance he will be an awesome player with games and experience under the belt.BUt of course i would prefer SA use him as they have been,every position and limted game time. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020925</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019840&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14 Disa&lt;/a&gt;: 
Luck?
So does luck apply to RWCs as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1019840" rel="nofollow">14 Disa</a>:<br />
Luck?<br />
So does luck apply to RWCs as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020715</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020683&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;123 TheTackler&lt;/a&gt;: maybe you could take the job tackler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020683" rel="nofollow">123 TheTackler</a>: maybe you could take the job tackler</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020683</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020376&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;76 grant10&lt;/a&gt;: So, when this &quot;director of rugby&quot; comes into his office every morning for 48 weeks a year, what -- exactly -- does he DO to earn his wage? 

I put it to you that it&#039;s a cosy sinecure. A well-paid job for a well-connected pal but one with no actual duty or responsibility.

A fat waste of money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020376" rel="nofollow">76 grant10</a>: So, when this &#8220;director of rugby&#8221; comes into his office every morning for 48 weeks a year, what &#8212; exactly &#8212; does he DO to earn his wage? </p>
<p>I put it to you that it&#8217;s a cosy sinecure. A well-paid job for a well-connected pal but one with no actual duty or responsibility.</p>
<p>A fat waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: saru1983</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020679</link>
		<dc:creator>saru1983</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pay them more money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pay them more money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020653</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020602&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;117 Namblack&lt;/a&gt;: I think they would use him better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020602" rel="nofollow">117 Namblack</a>: I think they would use him better</p>
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		<title>By: JimT</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020614</link>
		<dc:creator>JimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020358&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;71 Richie_7&lt;/a&gt;: I read frequently comments to the effect that the NZ squad is young/new. But when you actually look at their squad they had 12-13 well established test players playing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020358" rel="nofollow">71 Richie_7</a>: I read frequently comments to the effect that the NZ squad is young/new. But when you actually look at their squad they had 12-13 well established test players playing.</p>
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		<title>By: JimT</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020606</link>
		<dc:creator>JimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020139&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;58 stodders&lt;/a&gt;: Good post Stodders, thoughtful as always.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020139" rel="nofollow">58 stodders</a>: Good post Stodders, thoughtful as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Namblack</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020604</link>
		<dc:creator>Namblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020588&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;115 Namblack&lt;/a&gt;: 

...and when shouting in the refs ear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020588" rel="nofollow">115 Namblack</a>: </p>
<p>&#8230;and when shouting in the refs ear.</p>
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		<title>By: Namblack</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020602</link>
		<dc:creator>Namblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020571&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;114 Big Hit&lt;/a&gt;: 

Steyn would not make an AB team. He is too individual and does not have the required speed to operate in a AB backline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020571" rel="nofollow">114 Big Hit</a>: </p>
<p>Steyn would not make an AB team. He is too individual and does not have the required speed to operate in a AB backline.</p>
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		<title>By: JimT</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020594</link>
		<dc:creator>JimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019867&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;17 grant10&lt;/a&gt;: Steyn at #10 is not the answer. He is too slow off the mark &amp; indecisive. With his kicking abilities adding another dimension to the team then he needs to play but at #15 IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1019867" rel="nofollow">17 grant10</a>: Steyn at #10 is not the answer. He is too slow off the mark &amp; indecisive. With his kicking abilities adding another dimension to the team then he needs to play but at #15 IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Namblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020570&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;113 stodders&lt;/a&gt;: 

Ok maybe but you have to agree they usually contribute more than other teams would expect from their players.

For example i only see Victor Matfield lineout time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020570" rel="nofollow">113 stodders</a>: </p>
<p>Ok maybe but you have to agree they usually contribute more than other teams would expect from their players.</p>
<p>For example i only see Victor Matfield lineout time.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steyn should play 12, he was very good there at the weekend and in the world cup]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steyn should play 12, he was very good there at the weekend and in the world cup</p>
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		<title>By: stodders</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2008/09/15/counting-the-cost/#comment-1020570</link>
		<dc:creator>stodders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1020557&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;108 Namblack&lt;/a&gt;: I have to say Namblack, classifying Hore and Williams as play makers is pushing it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1020557" rel="nofollow">108 Namblack</a>: I have to say Namblack, classifying Hore and Williams as play makers is pushing it!</p>
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