Our U21 side this year had a poisenous backline – Africa, Petersen, Mapoe, Ebersohn (x2), Brummer and co – but we lost to England in the rain cause they scrummed us all over the show. Our props were playing with roller skates on.

BJ is our best at the mo- although we need to make a plan SOON to get someone in.

Maybe Tim Noakes needs to give Brian Mujati some “juice” and at the same time, we should appoint someone like Dawie Theron to spend time with the boy and teach him some more technique.

i dont have your knowledge of prop technique, but my gut instinct agree with what you say, which is that CJ is a natural LH since he has natural strength and is a fairly large unit. I think his strength allows him to hold his own at TH, but where CJ is better than any other frontrow forward in SA is at the cleanout. Sometime his technique is overzealous, but there is huge momentoum going into those collisions cos he is also extremely quick over the ground for a big man, not unlike Os. He is also still young in prop terms as you indicate.

andrews was a terrible TH, the best scrummagers was BJ botha who was the only SA TH who has not pushed backward in the last few S14 seasons. The last really powerful SA scrummaging TH was Visagie, but he did not have mobility needed at end of career imo.

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#22 tight head: #23 Cheetha Champs:

Please read the later threads in the “Bech boys give sharks edge” thread paying attention to my debate with pedspin about selection of Fynn & Andrews as Boks.

PS:Please note that I in any post dont advocate neither as scrummaging powerhouses etc.My contestation is based on form presiding selection and whether they had deserved selection above their SAffa prop competition based on those seasons however lean they might have been.

As far as I can remeber in 01′ on Willie Meyer was better than Fynn especially consistency and he was first choice ahead of Fynn

And in 04′ Andrews was the best amongst SA props therefore warranting selection.It was a lean yr amongst tightheads yes,but he was the best in S14

Cheers

A good scrum revolves around your tight head (shorter generally) being able to attack the loosehead and the hooker. Carl Hayman was an expert at this, as he could wrestle two men at once. SA has for the past 7 years had a poor scrum cause we dont have a strong tighthead. If you have a weak tight head, you will always struggle. See Dunning having his neck shoved in by Os and Sheridan

Eddie and Etienne could stand- but not dominate. My personal opinion, although some might disagree.