Bishops bounce back, Grey PE stumble
30 May 2009
Bishops made up for last weekend’s shock defeat against Wynberg in beating Paul Roos, while St Andrews edged Grey PE.
Dave Mallett’s schoolboys, who never recovered from a 16 point Wynberg blitz, started with greater poise in Stellenbosch and maintained this composure to win 27-15.
Bishops led 14-3 at halftime, with Australian-born flyhalf Sam Lane and fullback Paul Cohen again among the stand out players. Cohen scored 18 points.
World Cup-winning coach Jake White, whose schools coaching courses start in Bloemfontein next week, attended the match.
White told Keo.co.za: ‘I watched Bishops against Wynberg last weekend and there was far more respect shown to their own game and that of their opponents this time around. It definitely contributed to their better start and once they got ahead they controlled the second half, even though Paul Roos were more competitive after halftime.’
Paul Roos, without a few regulars, were disjointed and could not match their form of earlier games.
Bishops, despite just the one loss this season, are ranked only 10th in the country, while Paul Roos could not do justice to their status of being the next best after Grey College.
Bishops coach Mallett said: ‘We were thrilled to win out there, it’s never easy playing Paul Roos. We wanted it more than they did which proved decisive in the end.’
Mallett also said the refereeing was of a dire standard.
Wynberg, enjoying a brilliant season, stunned Paarl Gymnasium 15-10 in Paarl. Flyhalf Kieran Goss and centre Ezra Williams were among the stars in Wynberg’s first win against Paarl Gym in more than a decade.
Ronbebosch Boys High squandered a 13-8 halftime lead to lose 18-13 at home to Paarl Boys High. Fullback Edwin van der Walt scored late in the match after the Bosch loose-trio of Michael Aristedeau, Jamie Croeser and No 8 and captain Chad Mathews had been instrumental in ensuring a home team lead.
SACS showed great determination in limiting the powerful Boland Landbou to a six-nil win. Landbou’s Tiaan Radyn kicked two penalties against a home team who refused to be intimidated by the size of the opposition.
Paarl Boys’ got out of jail yesterday and defeated RBHS 18-13 with a late try from fullback Edwin van der Walt.
In other national results, St. Andrews snatched a dramatic 17-16 win against Grey PE in Grahamstown. Grey missed a penalty on the hooter from the 10m line.
Potch Gym and Potch Volkskool shared the spoils 18-all after Gym flyhalf Derhan Marais kicked a last minute penalty. Rustenburg High school thrashed an out of sorts Brits 33-3 and Middelburg High School broke a five year losing streak gainst HTS Middelburg, winning 33-10.
Western Cape
RBHS 13 Paarl Boys 18
Paul Roos 17 Bishops 27
Paarl Gym 10 Wynberg 15
SACS 0 Boland Landbou 6
Tygerberg High 48 Bellville THS 3
Strand 3 Bellville High 13
Somerset College 44 Bernadino Heights 0
Monument Park 12 Durbanville 14
Brackenfell 8 Stellenberg 11
DF Malan 26 Jan van Riebeck 10
HHH 7 De Kulien 66
JG Meiring 20 Zwaanswyk 5
Tygerberg Club 13 Milnerton High 12
Bergvliet 24 Fish Hoek 17
Sivertree 19 Hamiltons 15
Plumstead 0 Reddam 30
Bosmansdam 46 Voortrekker 0
SK Walmers 12 Parel Valei 7
Scottsdene 28 Camps Bay 16
Zandvliet 5 Parow 6
Boland
HTS Drostdy 26 Hugenote 24
HS Swartland 15 Vredenburg 5
Schoonspruit 33 Piketberg 20
Robertson 27 HS Swellendam 26
HS Stellenbosch 8 HS Langenhoven 0
Laborie 19 President 25
Swellendam Secondary 17 Bonnievale 20
Dirkie Uys 7 Hopefield 3
Montana 18 Worcester secondary 13
Albert Myburgh 17 Emil Weder 7
Berg Rivier 7 New Orleans 37
SWD
Outeniqua HS 29 Langenhoven Gym 15
HS Oudtshoorn 18 Oakdale 10
PW Botha HS 14 Punt 12
Sao Bras 50 Albertinia 0
Gerrit du Plessis 16 Kairos 12
Morester 29 Calitz Dorp 5
Groot Brakrivier 10 Parkdene secondary 6
HS Uniondale 29 Zwartberg 7
Heidelberg 15 Riviersonderend 0
Gauteng
Affies 10 Maritzburg College 0
Pretoria Boys’ High 24 Jeppe 3
St John’s 21 Parktown 20
Eastern Cape
St Andrews 17 Grey High 16
Marlow 16 Framesby 6
Selborne 45 Cambridge 0
KwaZulu-Natal
Glenwood 31 Michaelhouse 20
Westville 27 KES 27
By Gareth Wright
26 Comments
30 May 2009, 14:37 pm
Dragons!
30 May 2009, 15:36 pm
Ahhh spice, Paul Roos only had three players out. Bishops had two out as well…please get your reporting accurate!
Not to mention the HORRIFIC reffing, which had the penalty count at 42 – 7 to Paul Roos’ favour. All on video and going to be sent to the Western Province Union. Its common knowledge of those that attended that the reffing was a disgrace.
Bishops were also playing with 14 men for a full half! TWO yellow cards against them with very little justification. The problem was, yes Bishops may have been guilty at times going over the top, but so was Paul Roos! Yet, they were never penalized. Penalty count shows.
Match time was supposed to be 35 minutes a half. First half was correct. Second half, was 41 minutes and that excludes stopages. The hooter even went off (Paul Roos have an electronic scoreboard/timer that stops for stopages) and they have a hooter to siren the end of a half. Bishops kick out and the ref says, four more minutes to be played. Paul Roos score a late consolidation try.
Score was 27 – 10 when the siren went. With a more even penalty count, could have been 40 – 10 to Bishops.
30 May 2009, 17:18 pm
#2 benigma:
Yes.
Its a damn shame when people report on matches when they weren’t even there.
Where you there Keo?
30 May 2009, 19:47 pm
There is no report old boy … a report would have been a detailed description of the game. Please read it and see that it was a score and a quote.
Goodness me Pissant, you usually speak with some form of sense, but it appears you too have been taken down by the average speak now and think later brigade.
30 May 2009, 20:12 pm
#4 keo: “Paul Roos, without five regulars, were disjointed and could not match their form of earlier games.”
Keo,
Is the above from your article a score or a quote? It is not entirely clear from the context.
30 May 2009, 20:39 pm
#2 benigma: I saw the second yellow card, Bishops killed the ball on their tryline, and after repeated warnings, the referee went to his pocket. While you are sending videos to the WPRFU, how about one of the 2006 game?
30 May 2009, 22:47 pm
that was one brave touch judge at the 2006 game
30 May 2009, 23:55 pm
Got that 2006 game guys no problem and can post it on the net for old the old PRG guys to weep! Watching the video again, Bishops were the better side and had a dream 2006. PRG keep bringing back the 2006 game, but it wasn’t even a close call, the guy was tackled out. Shows the PRG wing getting smoked out. The touch judge shrugs, not too sure, the ref NODS out and the touch judge raises his flag. All the PRG boys on the field go “Ahhhh, biased decision!” – the referee made the decision! Boneheads.
Fact is guys, 3 times in a row in your own backyard, no ‘iffy’ decisions there! We’re coming back in 2011 and if we win that – then its a full decade where PRG hasn’t seen a HOME WIN AGAINST BISHOPS! LOL!
Dorlingssj – We weren’t killing the ball, we were turning the ball over and trying to compete and his interpretation was terrible. Sure some rucks we were guilty perhaps, but so was Paul Roos. Its all on video – he doesn’t penalize them. Its fine if he has his ‘own’ interpretation, but he has to be consistent, can’t blow Bishops and not PRG.
Even the PRG coach in the after match drinks was a bit baffled by some of the calls…
31 May 2009, 06:39 am
So proud of Wynberg…cannot actually believe how flippin brilliant they are this year!
Why oh Why when I have to move to Dubai do you decide to come right!!!!!
I remember the dark days of seeing them take a 20 point whipping from Bellville Tech in the dark days..
31 May 2009, 09:49 am
#9 sharkiedubai: Wynberg is a top quality side! I coach at Bellville High ( the second team ) and Wynberg destroyed our first team. It was no surprise to me that they beat Bishops. I have to say though that Paarl Gym has lost a number of matches these season – the Wynberg win is therefore no surprise: I’m not taking anything away from Wynberg – like I said: a top quality side with no weaknesses!!
On refs: It is a pity that the standard of refereeing is so bad in the school leagues! Some guys complain about the standard of refs in the 1st league ( they are appointed by the WP Rugby Union ) but the refs in the second league are generally speaking also quite poor. It frustrates the coaches so much: spare a thought for the players as well – sometimes they just don’t understand the interpretations of the refs and if they dare ask, they get penalized! What concerns me the most , is that most of these guys ref in their WP referee shirts: I sometimes wonder how some of them quialified!!
I have to admit though taht the ref in the Wynberg match of our second team was quite good: unfortunately I don’t know his name.
Enjoy Wynberg for the rest of the season – I don’t know when they’ll be able to have such a good side again.
31 May 2009, 10:54 am
hey thanks for teh Kind words Charles and good luck to Bellville this season..
Its a pity about the refs in Cape town..I am a ref here in the Arabian Gulf and the standard believe it or not is very high..
if that penalty count 42-7 as mentioned in teh Bishops game is correct then surely something urgently needs to be done?
Surely some kind of assesment is being done in the WP?
31 May 2009, 19:00 pm
That rondebosch wing looks like he didn’t do to bad. I would love to see Wynberg up against grey college.
31 May 2009, 19:16 pm
With regards to a lot of the comments above. I have watched quite a large amount of Western Cape school rugby over the last five years or so and this year in particular I have seen quite a significant deteriotion of the standard in the Western cape.
I watched Paul Roos early in the year and thought they looked really sharp and exciting but then went to their match on the weekend and was bitterly disappointed. While they did have key players out who were far more important to them then the Bishops players out ‘benigma’ i think you know that ( in particular their 9 and 13 who I am sure we will see in the SA schools side) they never looked like threatening. Bishops were better than last week but they have definitly lost some of their spark from years gone by.
Cohen and Carr were standouts while lane continues to unimpress me this year despite regular remarks about his play. Last week after a big hit from the Wynberg wing he sat in the pocket and kicked poorly refusing to take it to the line while against paul roos he had no massive impact. Carr is an unbelievable player and has a big future. watch that name…
This side does not come close to 2006 though despite stats. They just do not have the same personal in the backline.
Wynberg have been brilliant and I am ecstatic for them. Played Bishops off the park and the followed that up with a good win against Gym.
STill keen to see who really is the best in the Cape. For me its Wynberg at the moment.
31 May 2009, 19:24 pm
Referee was terrible on Saturday I must acknowledge aswell….
31 May 2009, 19:49 pm
Enjoy_IT – Fully agree with most of what you’ve said.
2006 said, was a dream side with many stars that this side doesn’t have…they are boxing above their weight at the moment and you’ve got to give them credit for that. They’re playing as a team and are VERY commited (only lapse being against Wynberg).
Sam has being playing with an injury the past two games, so can’t compare his performances against Paul Roos and Wynberg, with previous matches this season – unfortunately now it appears he has aggravated it badly and may miss Paarl Boys this weekend. Secondly did you watch most of the breaks against Paul Roos. They were all mostly setup by his passing!! Paul Roos number 10 was nowhere, the only other number 10 I’ve seen that’s played better than him on the day – was Goss from Wynberg.
Wynberg still have to play Bishops on the Piley on the 25th July – I would say it comes down to that game who is the best in the Cape. Bishops are the best at the moment (based on stats/results) with still a couple of games to go.
31 May 2009, 20:27 pm
I am not saying that Lane is not a good player. I watched him last year and while he wasn’t as good as the Bishops centre he still was one of the best in the team. The Bishops 12 on Saturday did benefit big time from his passes but the recent hype around his performances are unwaranted I felt and some of the other players were being overlooked who I felt played better than him. He is injured- so that is well noted and understandable.
Bishops vs. Wynberg will be the one to watch. Wynberg did lose to Grey PE who Bishops beat so will be enthralling match…
1 Jun 2009, 08:07 am
#16
There is very little to chose between the top 8 schools in the W.Cape. Any side can topple any one any ant Saturday. That is how close the league is. RBHS should have beaten Paarl Boys if not for some inept refereeing. Wynberg look a good outfit and Bishops look a competant side. The Paarl?boland schools will always be strong. What amazes me is the WP Cravenweek selection. I swear that some of the selectors need guide dogs. Gavin Hauptfliesch has been touted along with Lane for the number 10 spot-both have had shockers under pressure these past 2 weekends. Hauptfleish is easy rattled and is Lane. Carr is a stand out along with the 2 Bosch loosies, Chad Mathews and Michael Aristedau, both who have been overlooked by the selectors. It makes a mockery of when i played carvenweek in the mid 90′s.The best players made the side no matter what school you went to, also after 7 trails WP are down to the final 2 rounds-heck even EP have selected their Cravenweek side 2 weeks ago.
For me i think that the Cape league is by far the strongest in the country-we need a home and away fixture against all the top 8 schools, now that would be interesting………………………..
1 Jun 2009, 10:55 am
#17 Highlander: Mr Highlander…Do you actually believe the ref cost you the game against Paarl Boys?…Three tries to one, and the RBHS try was somewhat against the run of play from a Paarl mistake. Take your glasses off my friend and give credit were credit is due. Paarl have not played a game in 3 weeks and looked rusty, the flyhalf was never rattled, he had a poor kicking game but they still won. I love it when guys like Benigma etc already decided that Bishops is No 1 in the Cape. You still have to play us and the season is far from over. Pity the Paarl Boys vs Wynberg match got rained out.
1 Jun 2009, 11:06 am
I watched the Paul Roos vs Bishops game on Saturday and as a Paul Roos supporter was shocked by the ref’s handling of the game. Bishops have good reason to be unhappy. PRG do have many injuries at the moment, both locks, the hooker, scrumhalf and center were not able to play. Two are key players and both WP craven week players. Bishops played a great game and deserved to win.
1 Jun 2009, 12:03 pm
#18 RD POLLARD
I am an impartial rugby supporter, thought that the ref had a shocker. That 10 of Paarl Boy Gavin Hopeless the way he kicked-missed 15 points, he got one hard tackle and that was that.Read the comment submitted- Rondebosch near the daeth hacked the ball up field and the Paarl Boys 15 was holding on so tightly it was embarrasing-that was in front of me. As a refs assesor i feel i have the necessary knowledge to know whats right and wrong-after the third high tackle-no card-poor officiating.I dont care if your side have not played a game in 3 weeks-thats not my problem.Also, get a proper size rugby field in Paarl before you point fingers-that patch what you call a field is laughable.
1 Jun 2009, 21:19 pm
Highlander hw can you right sam off after watching one game. This is his second year at fly half and was instremental in most of bishop’s victories last year. The only reason he didn’t look great against Wynberg is because he was injured. You should have noticed he only took the ball up himself once in that game. He is a shoo in for the no. 10 jersey
1 Jun 2009, 22:12 pm
Western Cape Craven Week selection is a very interesting topic. Over the fast few years there has been increasing criticism of selectors for picking too many ‘paarl’ players and not enough Southern suburb schools players. I agree with these setiments in some instances but often I can understand some of their reasoning. Not for a long time has a Southern suburb side been far superior than any of the paarl schools (Bishops side of 06 was prob the only time) and consistently beat them. The gap between the north and south so to speak has definitly been closed these days but you can understanf selectors picking the core of their side from the strongests side in the Cape which is usually a Paarl school. Last year for instance P Gym was a fantastic side and therefore the large majority of the players came from them.
Having said this, there have been cases in recent past where outstanding players from southern suburb schools have been left out. I hate to refer to Bishops boys all the time but being an Old Boy thats were the bulk of my knowledge lies; Kritzinger in 06 and Loizedes in 08 were 2 of the best backs I have seen at schoolboy level with bright futures. both were ignored unbelieveably and as far as I know both have now pursued options in a different sport. I just hope that by being slightly bias and not considering all options we arn’t losing great young talent. A player like Chad matthews should stand a great chance as should Wynberg’s Goss.
I really hope they get the side right this year. It should feature more players from the south than normal but we must understand the Paarl schools produce brilliant sides year in year out and deserve their players to be rewarded. I just hope the balance is done right….
2 Jun 2009, 14:51 pm
All selection is very interesting. If you ask any school team coach he will tell you that there are at least 5 parents who think their son should be playing in any particular team. Multiply this by the number of schools in the Western Cape and you have an idea of why the picking of any Craven Week team is so contentious.
That said however the selectors could do with some outside help. I would propose using a Mr PdV as he seems to have an eye for emerging talent. Maybe he could select the Rose amongst the thorns at schoolboy level.
2 Jun 2009, 22:21 pm
#20 Highlander Highlander , you are entitled to your opinion but let me say to you my friend it is shocking to hear someone who is a ref assessor is so harsh in commenting on young men just playing the game they love . There is no need to get so personal . Good luck however for your Bishops team on Saturday and perhaps you should already start thinking what you will be calling some of the non performancers and what new excuses you will take take to the ref association after the beating you will receive.
3 Jun 2009, 07:22 am
#20 Highlander: Higlander, If your comments is a reflection on your ability to be a ref assesor no wonder the state of school refereeing in the province is so poor. If a ref is poor he is poor to both sides, so do not come and single out a few one-eyed incidents that went Paarl’s way as the norm of the game. There were just as many bad calls going to Rondebosch. You can ask a former Bok coach who was in the stands with us about his views. Your whining about the ref is typical of a bad sportsman. You would rather look for excuses than give credit to the opposition. Your name-calling of boys is totally uncalled for and does not belong on a forum like this as well. I guess you have seen the Paarl Boys No 10 play in all his previous 13 matches, so you are an expert on his abilities. If the only comments you can leave are critisism on the boys playing the games for their schools, please find something else to keep you busy.
3 Jun 2009, 08:23 am
Highlander shame on you!This forum should not be abused by you calling schoolboy rugbyplayers hopeless.Mike de Bruyn the Weekend Argus Schoolsrugby Reporter named Gavin Hauptfleisch PBHS no.10 as man of the match against a spirited RBHS side in Weekend Argus Sunday Edition of 31 May 2009.I hope that you do not in future again criticise schoolboy sportsmen in website forums.This include the performance of your son when he plays sport.I am sure the headmaster of which ever school you attended would also not approve your personal negative comments you made of the great no.10 you called hopeless.
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