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		<title>By: Brentie1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1355269</link>
		<dc:creator>Brentie1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[230. RugbyRulz
The Super 14 (15) has distorted the strength of the
Curie Cup,how else do we explain former Curie Cup
champions at the bottom of the log.
The Super 15 should rather be played on a pool system,
of 3 pools of 5 teams each.
Top 2 teams of each pool go through to round robin,
top 2 play in final.
It will see the return of Lions and Cheetahs sooner
to the domestic competition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>230. RugbyRulz<br />
The Super 14 (15) has distorted the strength of the<br />
Curie Cup,how else do we explain former Curie Cup<br />
champions at the bottom of the log.<br />
The Super 15 should rather be played on a pool system,<br />
of 3 pools of 5 teams each.<br />
Top 2 teams of each pool go through to round robin,<br />
top 2 play in final.<br />
It will see the return of Lions and Cheetahs sooner<br />
to the domestic competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Blou Baard Pastei</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1355064</link>
		<dc:creator>Blou Baard Pastei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354897&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;248 Sheriff&lt;/a&gt;: Well, do you like it? Don&#039;t you think people that listens to it has issues? 

You get angry-white-boy music, angry-black-pop-a-cap-in-yo-ass music, hou-my-vas-en-pomp-my-stadig music, tail-gunning-boy-band music etc. And various people classify their type or style of music as &quot;Ordentlik&quot;.

To me &quot;angry-white-boy&quot; music is &quot;ordentlik&quot;, nice rhythm on drums, the distorted guitar(s) inline with vocals, with the Lead guitarist creating adding the final touch with his solo&#039;s. It doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;ve got issues, nor that I&#039;m angry all the time. Most bands out there say it like it is, and that&#039;s what I like... Like Metallica, they used to be like that...

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354897" rel="nofollow">248 Sheriff</a>: Well, do you like it? Don&#8217;t you think people that listens to it has issues? </p>
<p>You get angry-white-boy music, angry-black-pop-a-cap-in-yo-<acronym title="Keep it clean!">***</acronym> music, hou-my-vas-en-pomp-my-stadig music, tail-gunning-boy-band music etc. And various people classify their type or style of music as &#8220;Ordentlik&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me &#8220;angry-white-boy&#8221; music is &#8220;ordentlik&#8221;, nice rhythm on drums, the distorted guitar(s) inline with vocals, with the Lead guitarist creating adding the final touch with his solo&#8217;s. It doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;ve got issues, nor that I&#8217;m angry all the time. Most bands out there say it like it is, and that&#8217;s what I like&#8230; Like Metallica, they used to be like that&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354897</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354884&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;246 Blou Baard Pastei&lt;/a&gt;: 

What about it?

In your heart of hearts you know I&#039;m right, go on, reflect on it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354884" rel="nofollow">246 Blou Baard Pastei</a>: </p>
<p>What about it?</p>
<p>In your heart of hearts you know I&#8217;m right, go on, reflect on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blou Baard Pastei</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354887</link>
		<dc:creator>Blou Baard Pastei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;239 BlueBlood&lt;/a&gt;: Amen Brother!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354104" rel="nofollow">239 BlueBlood</a>: Amen Brother!</p>
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		<title>By: Blou Baard Pastei</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354884</link>
		<dc:creator>Blou Baard Pastei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1353769&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;96 Sheriff&lt;/a&gt;: Lol, and what about angry-black-pop-a-cap-in-yo-ass music?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1353769" rel="nofollow">96 Sheriff</a>: Lol, and what about angry-black-pop-a-cap-in-yo-<acronym title="Keep it clean!">***</acronym> music?</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354868</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackPanther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354287&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;244 Fern&lt;/a&gt;: 

I was going to mention Slash but then couldnt think of a current band to list for him. I read his &#039;Heroin Diary&#039;. 1 scary mo fo. And he hasnt been with G&#039;n&#039;R for years either. I think he&#039;s almost a VIP session musician these days ?

#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;243 RugbyRulz&lt;/a&gt;: 

Cornell was of course vocals only (&amp; initially part-time drummer) and is possibly the best contemporary male vocalist. A shame he is now releasing such cheesey solo crap.

Soundgarden did indeed have great guitarists (Kim Thayil) tho.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354287" rel="nofollow">244 Fern</a>: </p>
<p>I was going to mention Slash but then couldnt think of a current band to list for him. I read his &#8216;Heroin Diary&#8217;. 1 scary mo fo. And he hasnt been with G&#8217;n'R for years either. I think he&#8217;s almost a VIP session musician these days ?</p>
<p>#<a href="#comment-1354286" rel="nofollow">243 RugbyRulz</a>: </p>
<p>Cornell was of course vocals only (&amp; initially part-time drummer) and is possibly the best contemporary male vocalist. A shame he is now releasing such cheesey solo <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym>.</p>
<p>Soundgarden did indeed have great guitarists (Kim Thayil) tho.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;241 BlackPanther&lt;/a&gt;: 
Slash]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354122" rel="nofollow">241 BlackPanther</a>:<br />
Slash</p>
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		<title>By: RugbyRulz</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354286</link>
		<dc:creator>RugbyRulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;241 BlackPanther&lt;/a&gt;:

Chris Cornell springs to mind and more, I like the rawness.
The list can go on and Keo would love us but for me I have to give Carlos the nod.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354122" rel="nofollow">241 BlackPanther</a>:</p>
<p>Chris Cornell springs to mind and more, I like the rawness.<br />
The list can go on and Keo would love us but for me I have to give Carlos the nod.</p>
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		<title>By: munkiboi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354216</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i have long maintained that the currie cup should only include fringe boks and those looking to regain form and fitness after injury (or in schalks case suspension...).  with s14, june tests, tri nations and year end the players dont have the capacityto play mroe matches.

the currie cup should be considered a semi-professinal competition that is a feeder and developer for the professonal S15 series.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have long maintained that the currie cup should only include fringe boks and those looking to regain form and fitness after injury (or in schalks case suspension&#8230;).  with s14, june tests, tri nations and year end the players dont have the capacityto play mroe matches.</p>
<p>the currie cup should be considered a semi-professinal competition that is a feeder and developer for the professonal S15 series.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackPanther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354122</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackPanther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1353912&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;168 RugbyRulz&lt;/a&gt;: 

You dont need to hang out with the dead and decrepid to satisfy your guitar fix.

Check out:- 

Jack White (White Stripes)
J Mascis (Dinosaur Jnr)
Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction &amp; various)


all touched by genius.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1353912" rel="nofollow">168 RugbyRulz</a>: </p>
<p>You dont need to hang out with the dead and decrepid to satisfy your guitar fix.</p>
<p>Check out:- </p>
<p>Jack White (White Stripes)<br />
J Mascis (Dinosaur Jnr)<br />
Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction &amp; various)</p>
<p>all touched by genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354107</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;239 BlueBlood&lt;/a&gt;: 

Just on my way out, but agree with you:

&quot; Without the BB the CC is dead.&quot;

As a matter of fact, I think it should read as follows:

&quot; Without the BB the country/continent is dead &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354104" rel="nofollow">239 BlueBlood</a>: </p>
<p>Just on my way out, but agree with you:</p>
<p>&#8221; Without the BB the CC is dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, I think it should read as follows:</p>
<p>&#8221; Without the BB the country/continent is dead &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: BlueBlood</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354104</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueBlood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said it before and I will say it again.

The only reason why the CC hasn&#039;t died yet is because of the Blue Bulls. If you take away the passion of the BB supporters and the passion of the anti-BB brigade you are left with nothing.

Very few people watch the CC, most will just watch the final, if their team is playing or the BB are playing.

Without the BB the CC is dead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before and I will say it again.</p>
<p>The only reason why the CC hasn&#8217;t died yet is because of the Blue Bulls. If you take away the passion of the BB supporters and the passion of the anti-BB brigade you are left with nothing.</p>
<p>Very few people watch the CC, most will just watch the final, if their team is playing or the BB are playing.</p>
<p>Without the BB the CC is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: bertv</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354102</link>
		<dc:creator>bertv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stupid stupid stupid stupid. the rich history of the curriecup. the heartbeat of south african rugby. our heritage, pride and passion? sacrificed for a stupid tournament where we have enjoyd little success and plenty of heartache. where even our best teams have had little to no success playing away. stupid stupid stupid stupid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid stupid stupid stupid. the rich history of the curriecup. the heartbeat of south african rugby. our heritage, pride and passion? sacrificed for a stupid tournament where we have enjoyd little success and plenty of heartache. where even our best teams have had little to no success playing away. stupid stupid stupid stupid</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354101</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we are forgetting (haven&#039;t read all the posts) that in order for the S15 agreement to be binding to the South African franchises - there is still nothing in writing, the Currie Cup needs to be only top 6. Otherwise it&#039;s a no go.

So what is SARU to do now. Top 6 makes more sense in many ways, and shortens the competition.

It&#039;s either that or no teams competing in S15]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are forgetting (haven&#8217;t read all the posts) that in order for the S15 agreement to be binding to the South African franchises &#8211; there is still nothing in writing, the Currie Cup needs to be only top 6. Otherwise it&#8217;s a no go.</p>
<p>So what is SARU to do now. Top 6 makes more sense in many ways, and shortens the competition.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s either that or no teams competing in S15</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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Transformation: Cat A]]></description>
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Transformation: Cat A</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interested relevant parties can check back later to see.

But they must remember the cats as it will just say &quot; John Cat A &quot; etc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested relevant parties can check back later to see.</p>
<p>But they must remember the cats as it will just say &#8221; John Cat A &#8221; etc</p>
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		<title>By: RugbyRulz</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/07/08/currie-cup-under-threat/#comment-1354069</link>
		<dc:creator>RugbyRulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354064&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;233 sideline&lt;/a&gt;: Now that idea has merit.  There is no way the NH wants the better teams competing up north, but the &#039;smaller unions&#039; as you say may be acceptable.  

Don&#039;t know how the northerners will view it though, especially after the BIL tour, the thumbing of collective noses at the IRB.  But give it a shot.  You don&#039;t get if you don&#039;t ask.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354064" rel="nofollow">233 sideline</a>: Now that idea has merit.  There is no way the NH wants the better teams competing up north, but the &#8216;smaller unions&#8217; as you say may be acceptable.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know how the northerners will view it though, especially after the BIL tour, the thumbing of collective noses at the IRB.  But give it a shot.  You don&#8217;t get if you don&#8217;t ask.</p>
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		<title>By: sideline</title>
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		<dc:creator>sideline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354034&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;225 Brentie1&lt;/a&gt;: mmm, i think SARU should be negotiating a role for 2 or 3 sides in the Heineken Cup... but the sides must exclude those in the S14 franchises... this opens the door to smaller unions to hold players and maybe even snatch some from the S14.

I&#039;m sure the bloggers here could refine this idea]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354034" rel="nofollow">225 Brentie1</a>: mmm, i think SARU should be negotiating a role for 2 or 3 sides in the Heineken Cup&#8230; but the sides must exclude those in the S14 franchises&#8230; this opens the door to smaller unions to hold players and maybe even snatch some from the S14.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the bloggers here could refine this idea</p>
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		<title>By: Sheriff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now as a person who believes in merit (and not job reservation) I thought it may be approp to categorise as follows:

Group A: must see
Group B: dont have to, but not against
Group C: would prefer not to see
Group D: avoid at all cost (will even look the other way if spotted in shopping mall)

Now that I&#039;ve done all of that I cannot decide in what category to put &quot;break-of-day&quot;

I guess I&#039;ll have to do a 3 month performance review]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now as a person who believes in merit (and not job reservation) I thought it may be approp to categorise as follows:</p>
<p>Group A: must see<br />
Group B: dont have to, but not against<br />
Group C: would prefer not to see<br />
Group D: avoid at all cost (will even look the other way if spotted in shopping mall)</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve done all of that I cannot decide in what category to put &#8220;break-of-day&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll have to do a 3 month performance review</p>
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		<title>By: byoboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>byoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1354034&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;225 Brentie1&lt;/a&gt;: I agree super 15 is definitely a step backwards and will not benefit SA Rugby at all. Currie Cup should not be compromised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<a href="#comment-1354034" rel="nofollow">225 Brentie1</a>: I agree super 15 is definitely a step backwards and will not benefit SA Rugby at all. Currie Cup should not be compromised.</p>
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