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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;I have no regrets&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: gottie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1484884</link>
		<dc:creator>gottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you expect from a man that perfected the art of ducking and diving, talking and walking while Rome is burning. Real leadership is what is needed if we want to have a chance to retain the World Cup, because the miracle of 2007 was a miracle performed by the players and not the administrators.If they can&#039;t even delivery on ordinary things in the office how could they be able to have performed a miracle in 2007. They should not claim easy victories, because it was not their&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect from a man that perfected the art of ducking and diving, talking and walking while Rome is burning. Real leadership is what is needed if we want to have a chance to retain the World Cup, because the miracle of 2007 was a miracle performed by the players and not the administrators.If they can&#8217;t even delivery on ordinary things in the office how could they be able to have performed a miracle in 2007. They should not claim easy victories, because it was not their&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481680</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481625&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;husky&lt;/a&gt;: EC had a &quot;viable&quot; bid? Yes, thats why they won the new franchise in the Super 15. Take away the political imperatives and what do you have? An imaginary team, a pipe dream that has played one game (they lost) filled with journeymen from outside the country. The days of EP are in the past - good organisations and teams do fade away when there is not enough support and institutional mismanagement/breakdown.

It is commendable that people like TonyM are trying their best but realities are - there are other, more established and better supported teams in SA that are already in the Super 15. On a lighter note, there is a case for banishing the Lions. Instead of lumping the Cheetahs with the Lions and calling them the Cats, because of geographical compatibility, merge the Bulls and Lions together and call them the Minotaurs or something. 

Don&#039;t stuff the Cheetahs around - I don&#039;t think that any union contributes to SA player strength on a per capita basis than the Cheetahs do - they are the heartland of SA rugby - the equivalent of the Packers in Greenbay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481625" rel="nofollow">husky</a>: EC had a &#8220;viable&#8221; bid? Yes, thats why they won the new franchise in the Super 15. Take away the political imperatives and what do you have? An imaginary team, a pipe dream that has played one game (they lost) filled with journeymen from outside the country. The days of EP are in the past &#8211; good organisations and teams do fade away when there is not enough support and institutional mismanagement/breakdown.</p>
<p>It is commendable that people like TonyM are trying their best but realities are &#8211; there are other, more established and better supported teams in SA that are already in the Super 15. On a lighter note, there is a case for banishing the Lions. Instead of lumping the Cheetahs with the Lions and calling them the Cats, because of geographical compatibility, merge the Bulls and Lions together and call them the Minotaurs or something. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t stuff the Cheetahs around &#8211; I don&#8217;t think that any union contributes to SA player strength on a per capita basis than the Cheetahs do &#8211; they are the heartland of SA rugby &#8211; the equivalent of the Packers in Greenbay.</p>
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		<title>By: steeve</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481631</link>
		<dc:creator>steeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We´re not the ones whining mate, its the guys who are still bitching about the Eastern Cape not getting the 6th frnachise... Really lets just get over it already - life moves on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We´re not the ones whining mate, its the guys who are still bitching about the Eastern Cape not getting the 6th frnachise&#8230; Really lets just get over it already &#8211; life moves on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: husky</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481625</link>
		<dc:creator>husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[heavensgate &amp; Steeeevie. Go on, whine and nitpick but one thing is for sure - unless SARu start acting like professionals and growing the game (and SA prowess &amp; expertise) we will stagnate. EC had a viable bid, why was it thrown aside; no wonder TonyM is pissed. If Oz can support all the franchises it does with only a handful of players, why can&#039;t SA? My answer; expertise and commitment is hugely lacking in SARU.

As has been sed a million times; SARU at present are self-interested amateurs. There is little go forward with this pack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heavensgate &amp; Steeeevie. Go on, whine and nitpick but one thing is for sure &#8211; unless SARu start acting like professionals and growing the game (and SA prowess &amp; expertise) we will stagnate. EC had a viable bid, why was it thrown aside; no wonder TonyM is pissed. If Oz can support all the franchises it does with only a handful of players, why can&#8217;t SA? My answer; expertise and commitment is hugely lacking in SARU.</p>
<p>As has been sed a million times; SARU at present are self-interested amateurs. There is little go forward with this pack.</p>
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		<title>By: steeve</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481405</link>
		<dc:creator>steeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no worries - tiger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no worries &#8211; tiger.</p>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481404</link>
		<dc:creator>SodaJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481399&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steeve&lt;/a&gt;: Ok - bud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481399" rel="nofollow">steeve</a>: Ok &#8211; bud.</p>
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		<title>By: steeve</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481399</link>
		<dc:creator>steeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481393&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SodaJoe&lt;/a&gt;: And I find it just as painful when they do it - boet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481393" rel="nofollow">SodaJoe</a>: And I find it just as painful when they do it &#8211; boet.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481396</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481319&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TonyM&lt;/a&gt;: The factoid is a bit of a &quot;straw-man&quot; for a couple of reasons I suspect. The Cheetahs sponsorship as in your figure quoted may be overinflated - i.e. aren&#039;t Supersport a shareholder (equity) AND sponsor (income) of the team. So that figure may not be sponsorship only (may be combined equity + income). The Cheetahs are an established team. i.e. They exist, have a history and established market/demographic.

I said fruit basket because your subtotal (that shows &quot;costs&quot;) included a mixture of apples and pears i.e. implied revenue lost, sunk costs that haven&#039;t happened, and sunk costs that have, plus equity that has this nominal value for a fictional organisation, all added together.

Very confusing, if you think about it, but all cleverly wrapped up into this nice, round, quotable, but ultimately misleading figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481319" rel="nofollow">TonyM</a>: The factoid is a bit of a &#8220;straw-man&#8221; for a couple of reasons I suspect. The Cheetahs sponsorship as in your figure quoted may be overinflated &#8211; i.e. aren&#8217;t Supersport a shareholder (equity) AND sponsor (income) of the team. So that figure may not be sponsorship only (may be combined equity + income). The Cheetahs are an established team. i.e. They exist, have a history and established market/demographic.</p>
<p>I said fruit basket because your subtotal (that shows &#8220;costs&#8221;) included a mixture of apples and pears i.e. implied revenue lost, sunk costs that haven&#8217;t happened, and sunk costs that have, plus equity that has this nominal value for a fictional organisation, all added together.</p>
<p>Very confusing, if you think about it, but all cleverly wrapped up into this nice, round, quotable, but ultimately misleading figure.</p>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481393</link>
		<dc:creator>SodaJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481392&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steeve&lt;/a&gt;: Stevie. Boet this is Keo. As a rite of passage you have to navigate people saying the same thing over and over and over and over.....

But rough with the smooth hey? 

I learn something from Tony, if only a different point of view. Although I think he was shafted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481392" rel="nofollow">steeve</a>: Stevie. Boet this is Keo. As a rite of passage you have to navigate people saying the same thing over and over and over and over&#8230;..</p>
<p>But rough with the smooth hey? </p>
<p>I learn something from Tony, if only a different point of view. Although I think he was shafted.</p>
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		<title>By: steeve</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481392</link>
		<dc:creator>steeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481389&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SodaJoe&lt;/a&gt;: He just comes across to me as somebody who pushes the same points across week after week, not adding anything positive... I watch and read about rugby to be entertained not to feel depressed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481389" rel="nofollow">SodaJoe</a>: He just comes across to me as somebody who pushes the same points across week after week, not adding anything positive&#8230; I watch and read about rugby to be entertained not to feel depressed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SodaJoe</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481389</link>
		<dc:creator>SodaJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481382&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steeve&lt;/a&gt;: Actually I enjoy Tony&#039;s commentary. It certainly lifts the veil in an uncommon way. 

Agree or disagree, but in my book he is articulate and committed to E Cape rugby, and I think most agree that Spears were shafted. 

But overriding principle is he adds value &amp; color to a blog that I enjoy reading.

You have a mouse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481382" rel="nofollow">steeve</a>: Actually I enjoy Tony&#8217;s commentary. It certainly lifts the veil in an uncommon way. </p>
<p>Agree or disagree, but in my book he is articulate and committed to E Cape rugby, and I think most agree that Spears were shafted. </p>
<p>But overriding principle is he adds value &amp; color to a blog that I enjoy reading.</p>
<p>You have a mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: steeve</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481382</link>
		<dc:creator>steeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481319&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TonyM&lt;/a&gt;: Do you have anything better to do than to sit around on blogs like this and sportsleader and do nothing but bitch about SARU?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481319" rel="nofollow">TonyM</a>: Do you have anything better to do than to sit around on blogs like this and sportsleader and do nothing but <acronym title="Keep it clean!">*****</acronym> about SARU?</p>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481337</link>
		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mate thats simply not true...

in both instances...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mate thats simply not true&#8230;</p>
<p>in both instances&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481326</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No regrets but I have lost SARU lots of money....ahh governmant can pick up the tab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No regrets but I have lost SARU lots of money&#8230;.ahh governmant can pick up the tab.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyM</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481319</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481278&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game&lt;/a&gt;: 

Here is quick Factoid for you.

The sponsorship figure of R15m I quoted is the minimum required from a title sponsor. Cheetahs went off with the R10m per annum for 5 years that was to go to the 5th franchise allocated in 2005.

The SANZAR Super 15 bid document required a $8.2m-$12.5m underwriting for the Super rugby franchise which is a +R60m per annum figure.

If there is no tournament or fixture list for the Southern Kings or any other team that stands down or does not get promoted, for the next 5 years, the 6th franchise is toast and DOA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481278" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game</a>: </p>
<p>Here is quick Factoid for you.</p>
<p>The sponsorship figure of R15m I quoted is the minimum required from a title sponsor. Cheetahs went off with the R10m per annum for 5 years that was to go to the 5th franchise allocated in 2005.</p>
<p>The SANZAR Super 15 bid document required a $8.2m-$12.5m underwriting for the Super rugby franchise which is a +R60m per annum figure.</p>
<p>If there is no tournament or fixture list for the Southern Kings or any other team that stands down or does not get promoted, for the next 5 years, the 6th franchise is toast and DOA.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyM</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481316</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1481128&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slappes&lt;/a&gt;: 

Quite simply there is a perceived threat of the prospect of being relegated and the loss of income from sponsorships by the existing 5 SA franchises.

If this was performance related one could have relegation and promotion matches - which themselves would be incredibly popular, but more than that there needs to be a second tier Super Rugby tournament under the Super14/15 to keep the Super14/15 hot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1481128" rel="nofollow">Slappes</a>: </p>
<p>Quite simply there is a perceived threat of the prospect of being relegated and the loss of income from sponsorships by the existing 5 SA franchises.</p>
<p>If this was performance related one could have relegation and promotion matches &#8211; which themselves would be incredibly popular, but more than that there needs to be a second tier Super Rugby tournament under the Super14/15 to keep the Super14/15 hot.</p>
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		<title>By: Nanashi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481301</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What’s your relationship with him like?
We have a good relationship.

Translated to Afrikaans:

Hoe is julle verhouding met mekaar?
Ons het &#039;n goeie verstandhouding. (Ek het die verstand, hy het die houding.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s your relationship with him like?<br />
We have a good relationship.</p>
<p>Translated to Afrikaans:</p>
<p>Hoe is julle verhouding met mekaar?<br />
Ons het &#8216;n goeie verstandhouding. (Ek het die verstand, hy het die houding.)</p>
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		<title>By: SABC</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481299</link>
		<dc:creator>SABC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2nd highest ever attended game involving BL that is - non test matches ...

Even cricket&#039;s attendance in PE is the highest in SA....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd highest ever attended game involving BL that is &#8211; non test matches &#8230;</p>
<p>Even cricket&#8217;s attendance in PE is the highest in SA&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: skunk</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2009/12/10/i-have-no-regrets/#comment-1481294</link>
		<dc:creator>skunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Ranger. Things are going well. But i think i have played my last game. Working on getting an academy going now. Hoping to be up and running by june next year. How is the bush?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ranger. Things are going well. But i think i have played my last game. Working on getting an academy going now. Hoping to be up and running by june next year. How is the bush?</p>
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		<title>By: SABC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SABC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wasn&#039;t the Kings vs B Lions the 2nd highest ever attended game? Excl. test matches?  I pretty sure it is.  Record is held by Auckland, NZ i think]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wasn&#8217;t the Kings vs B Lions the 2nd highest ever attended game? Excl. test matches?  I pretty sure it is.  Record is held by Auckland, NZ i think</p>
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