A nation of champions
23 Dec 2009
South African rugby’s trophy cabinet has never been this full.
Click here to subscribeWhile the Boks finished the year on a disappointing note, it didn’t change the fact that in 2009 they added the Tri-Nations trophy, Lions series trophy, Freedom Cup and Mandela Plate to the Webb Ellis Cup that they won in 2007. The Bulls, of course, claimed the Super 14 title for the second time while the Springbok Sevens team finally got their hands on the World Series trophy.
To celebrate these achievements, SA Rugby magazine assembled all of the above silverware and took a unique cover photo that makes its new bumper 150-page edition a collector’s one.
Also in the new issue:
– Andries Bekker on his injury nightmare, learning from Victor Matfield and why the Stormers are better off without Luke Watson
– Why selection and tactical blunders were to blame for the Springboks’ disastrous European trip
– Jaque Fourie on shrugging off life’s disappointments, his contract dispute with the Lions, and mentoring Juan de Jongh at the Stormers
– Why the Southern Kings will only see Super Rugby if Saru makes some strong decisions and there is unity between the three provincial unions that make up the franchise
– Over a pint of Guinness, Munster centre Jean de Villiers talks about broadening his horizons, chirping Ronan O’Gara and his plans to return to South Africa in 2010
– A South African coach, South African businessman and a clutch of South African players have reversed the fortunes of Saracens
PLUS: Your ultimate guide to the 2010 Super 14 – all the teams, stats and facts
JP Duminy is on the cover of the new SA Cricket magazine. Click here for more
1,039 Comments
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17 Dec 2009, 00:25 am
@Johan Fourie: OK Facebook!
“Babysigns”, mmmmmm – not me!
17 Dec 2009, 00:26 am
Thats it for me. G’night all!
17 Dec 2009, 00:26 am
We can choose to turn a blind eye to all the serious problems, but i bet the countless hungry kids do not give a ratz *** about Mandela or the Big soccer stadia they will probably never see.
17 Dec 2009, 00:27 am
If only we can float…like cherry blossoms in the fall…so sweet and pure. A poor translation of a young ‘divine wind’ (kamikaze) pilot’s last diary entry.
17 Dec 2009, 00:27 am
@bananaboy: Very excellent post from Holland there…
Nice to have a balance of views here…..Ying and Yang and all that!
17 Dec 2009, 00:29 am
that is correct bananaboy it is far better to know forgiveness than to know righteousness, but its also better for love to be earned than to be treated like candy from a corner grocery store. True love ain’t cheap and should never be treated or traded as such. No one quite realizes what true love actually is till they’ve experienced it even a little bit.
17 Dec 2009, 00:30 am
Night Chaps….been ‘interesting’!!
17 Dec 2009, 00:31 am
I do hope Puma enjoyed his birthday today….
17 Dec 2009, 00:32 am
out
Poof
17 Dec 2009, 00:32 am
@WP Till I Die:
lol … and you keep waxing lyrical.
much appreciated mr ranger.
17 Dec 2009, 00:33 am
Does true love even exist? Only he who does not love himself can truly love unconditionally – and we love ourselves too much
17 Dec 2009, 00:35 am
@cab: I always come back because there are some very good people here. Like you, Ranger and the Yak Skiier.
Now fkn calm down.
Apology given. You’ve done your bit.
17 Dec 2009, 00:35 am
@WP Till I Die: Now you fkn stop drinking the love potion that is bong water and get back to normal too.
17 Dec 2009, 00:36 am
Mais bien sur, cab. Bon nuit, a bientot, j’espere.
17 Dec 2009, 00:36 am
@SodaJoe:
nah, i only apologise for the one thing, for the rest, i was right, he remains an arsehole.
17 Dec 2009, 00:37 am
@WP Till I Die: Au revoir.
17 Dec 2009, 00:37 am
@cab: stop already
17 Dec 2009, 00:41 am
SodaJoe, not many people remember the Yak Skiing thread – how’s Minnesota?
17 Dec 2009, 00:42 am
soda you are a mutton for punishment
17 Dec 2009, 00:42 am
@SodaJoe:
yip, i’m done, all the best with the mineapollis winter.
17 Dec 2009, 00:52 am
@WP Till I Die: Too cold for lampposts.
-22C.
Holy moly.
Off to Mexico on Saturday for a week.
Yeah baby.
See you through the window.
17 Dec 2009, 01:57 am
@SodaJoe: mind the swine flu bud
17 Dec 2009, 07:49 am
cab this is for you and you only. You the biggest two faced c.nt I’ve come across you f’ak knows f’all prick. You double handed little two faced swine. Get f’ak’d.
17 Dec 2009, 08:46 am
Neo vs Agent Smith. round 25
17 Dec 2009, 08:53 am
Well done SA. The Boks deserve their success. Enjoy it while you can because it doesn’t last forever . Eventually the critics will return. Two years out from the RWC and youre the leading team. Thank God its not the perennial champ between cups the ABs
17 Dec 2009, 09:55 am
@Slappes: Matrix IV – The Truth Seekers Vs The Scientists
17 Dec 2009, 10:57 am
skopskiet
If its for me only, why not email me. Come on, we sort something out, i;ve had enough.
17 Dec 2009, 11:22 am
yeah you had my private email all along but you were looking to make it into a public spectacle out here in a public forum publishing my personal private principles which were given you in a confidential private setting under pretty supposed honorable agreed conditions, so now you got what you were after, you dragged the entire keo blog site into this private issue trying to teach me a lesson or something or other, meantime its your mind that is looking for answers not mine. So you want to challenge yourself out here in public using me and my principles as your personal sounding board go ahead try it again.
You looking for forgiveness then look for it where you might find it, or you really think you going to get it out here? Like you think you going to discover reality on word filled empty headed blog sites that spew mind filled indoctrinated word upon word and concept upon concept of self righteous trash all day long.
17 Dec 2009, 11:28 am
Guys. This is ridiculous.
17 Dec 2009, 12:11 pm
I suggest a fight to the death…. with your walking sticks…
17 Dec 2009, 12:19 pm
moer maar vir mekaar.
about time the insulting old creep got his comeuppance.
hitler also had a few valid points, as did mugabe, but the truth was distilled by the madness that characterised the rest of the diatribe.
too bad, so sad.
17 Dec 2009, 14:07 pm
no i never was looking to make anything into a public spectacle, and i suspect you know that too.
which confidences have I revealed? where?
You have my email and we can take this further as you want.
17 Dec 2009, 16:49 pm
ha, go back along this thread and show me how you were avoiding a public fallout in broad daylight. You wanted to challenge me on anything private how come you dragged it out here you two faced punk *** underhand coward. You got my address, anytime, you little snake in the grass second grade closed minded chicken, I’m right here. Go right back along the cause of this issue and try absolve yourself of your blatant abuse of private disclosed principles in a private setting far away from this place, you second grade slithering snake eyed conniving creep.
17 Dec 2009, 17:14 pm
look i’m not going thru a whole stupid soap opera rigma role with you, i have no intention of making anything public, as such this is my last comment, you know where to reach me if you want to.
Done.
17 Dec 2009, 17:15 pm
Should mental patients really be allowed internet access?
17 Dec 2009, 17:22 pm
@cab: How you ever got ensnared in this madness I will never know.
Absinthe or a major solar flare. That’s my only explanation.
Now laugh it off.
17 Dec 2009, 17:35 pm
@skopskiet: @cab: Look guys, I know this is non of my business, so I’ll keep it short. From all the above I take it that non of you have ***** in your lives. That is fine, we all live our own lives. But as a Christian I feel obliged to say this to you. ***** died for your sins, for you Cab, and for you Skopskiet. He knew you 2000 years ago. He loves both of you, you are His children, so that makes you brothers. Nothing good can come from this way of behaviour. Or, let me rephrase that; humanly, nothing good can come from this, but spiritually God can intervene and produce spectacular, beautiful things. How did you guys sleep last night? Did you have peace in your hearts? Or were you thinking hateful thoughts about each other, and what to say next.
Please guys, life is short. Enjoy it! Have love in your hearts. When you get upset, think about the real important things in life! Be patient, be kind, and have nothing but love and understanding.
As much as I respect your opinions on this, I ask of you to respect mine. I know this is not the platform for my viewpoints, so this is the last you will hear on this subject from me.
Lets just talk about the one thing we all enjoy: Rugby. And should we not agree with each other, let’s respect that too.
17 Dec 2009, 17:41 pm
I think I might have just opened a can of “whip-***” on myself!
17 Dec 2009, 17:57 pm
@Johan Fourie: No ****. You’re talking to teh 2 biggest agnostics on Keo.
17 Dec 2009, 17:59 pm
Contrary to what most here will think there is no ill will from me towards cab on a personal level, however that does not detract from a sanctified principle of agreement that certain personal and private information was to be kept as such. So the apparent seething hatred you think you are seeing is the anger addressed at the effect of the issue and the breakdown of a qualified principle of a personal private agreement that has been broken. If cab wants to address me privately if at all he wants some closure on this issue he knows where to find me. But I’m not going one whisker out my way for that double dealing coward again. If he’s looking for any reprieve or closure here he has the means by which to address it. Again if his arrogance or cowardice or both is standing in his way, thats his own problem, not mine.
17 Dec 2009, 18:06 pm
@skopskiet: Honestly Skopskiet, you should have dealt with this differently. No one even realy knows what this is about (at least I don’d). All I know is that some very nasty things have been said. But it can all be fixed!
17 Dec 2009, 18:10 pm
Agnostics can’t commit.
17 Dec 2009, 18:12 pm
@SodaJoe: Not trying to “convert” anyone here. We all have our own journey.
17 Dec 2009, 18:14 pm
Have to go now! Chat to you guys later! Rugby chat I hope!
17 Dec 2009, 18:18 pm
Johan I know you are meaning very well and it is highly noble of you to try and soothe the flames of a destructive antithesis that has arisen between 2 individuals, but those two individuals are responsible for their own actions or responses towards each other. The Christian principle of turn the other cheek and forgive and forget is perhaps the ultimate ideal that humans should try aspire to, but there is a little more to some underlying issues that is plainly visible to most on the surface. This relates to personal trust on a reasonably deep seated personal level, so where a war of affliction is required to set out the parameters by which such principles get measured or upheld, perhaps it is such that these lines need to get drawn in the sand in order that those thinking that private and reasonably sacred information is not abused in such flagrant manner again.
The pity of it really is that the level of appreciation by some people for information that they themselves were delving for and seeking by theiown inquisitive mind is downright pure and dispicably lacking, they can never really begin to realize nor understand to what extent such confidence is readily offered, and if they are so deaf and dumb and blind to simple truths such as these then they have no right nor no place for any such appreciation by anyone let alone life at large.
17 Dec 2009, 19:51 pm
@skopskiet: Yes, I know you know that I mean well. I understand that you feel hurt and betrayed, but I’m sure Cab feels the same. It is never easy to fully understand where someone else is coming from. Sure, perhaps Cab did make a mistake, but hey, we all do! I’ve made some huge mistakes in my life which have caused much hurt, not only to other people, but to myself as well. I’ve said some bad things, and some bad things have been said to me. But there comes a time to forgive and move on. Personalities clash from time to time, and it is how we deal with that that will eventually determine how we move on in life. There are a number of ways to handle situations like this. One can get upset, retaliate, and say hurtfull and nasty things, or one can sincerely express one’s disaproval. The latter is always the best.
All us humans are basically the same, with the same basic needs. Humans have the need to be loved and to love, to be respected and to respect. We all just want to be happy! One day, on your dying bed, how much do you think this little battle would have influenced your life? It is nothing! It is silly, it has no influence what so ever on your life! It is like that guy who punched me on the nose in grade 2. At the time it was the biggest thing in my life, but today I laugh about it. Saw him the other day. What a great guy!
Christian principles are not easy. Doing the right thing has never been easy. But in the end, looking back, one realise that doing the right thing, despite the fact that it can be humiliating and hurtful at the time, is always the best to do.
17 Dec 2009, 19:51 pm
Skopskiet is about to ooze about the bevy of beauties on Top Billing.
The usual racist stuff of how the black girls is knocking spots of thw white girls???
17 Dec 2009, 20:06 pm
Karoolander, why do you bring race into your posts? Why can you not accept anothers choices, even if you disagree with it. I think you are immature.
17 Dec 2009, 20:38 pm
Yes Johan this little nonentity skirmish means absolutely nothing one way or the other. It actually has very little to do with anything vaguely important either here or anywhere else. The issue is simply a lack of reverence or understanding for certain realities or principles in life that certain dumb *** numb skull idiots who believe they have a handle of rational understanding about certain aspects of this human existence yet have none at all. Scientific or rational or otherwise. You over state my so called hurt, I am hardly hurt, just emphatically angry at the sheer lack of appreciation and lack of understanding and lack of knowledge which leads these dumb struck idiot fools to believe in their atheistic or scientific notions that their blindness categorises the blindness of all humanity. The basic bottom line of the entire exercise is simply this, don’t ever get duped by these cold calculating heartless dead beat self centered trash eaters who feign sincerity while back at the ranch they couldn’t be less sincere or earnest or honest with you or with themselves if they tried. They are the biggest bull sh’ting deceiving lying under hand creeps under the sun, and its all put out as some kind of line of reasoning that they are indeed open minded but back at the ranch believe me they are the most despicable closed minded deceiving self infatuated fools ever born. I understand your well meaning in trying to get me to embrace your Christian principles, you really don’t need to fret or concern yourself in my direction at all, I’m pretty well taken care of even though from the outset to most on here it may seem to you totally the opposite, believe my I’m ok in spite of what others may think, if anything I’d suggest that they should seriously consider themselves, and that goes specifically to those who so honestly believe that they are the high up standing models of human virtue from whichever standpoint, religious, moral, rational or otherwise.
17 Dec 2009, 20:49 pm
Amen Skop.
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