A nation of champions
23 Dec 2009
South African rugby’s trophy cabinet has never been this full.
Click here to subscribeWhile the Boks finished the year on a disappointing note, it didn’t change the fact that in 2009 they added the Tri-Nations trophy, Lions series trophy, Freedom Cup and Mandela Plate to the Webb Ellis Cup that they won in 2007. The Bulls, of course, claimed the Super 14 title for the second time while the Springbok Sevens team finally got their hands on the World Series trophy.
To celebrate these achievements, SA Rugby magazine assembled all of the above silverware and took a unique cover photo that makes its new bumper 150-page edition a collector’s one.
Also in the new issue:
– Andries Bekker on his injury nightmare, learning from Victor Matfield and why the Stormers are better off without Luke Watson
– Why selection and tactical blunders were to blame for the Springboks’ disastrous European trip
– Jaque Fourie on shrugging off life’s disappointments, his contract dispute with the Lions, and mentoring Juan de Jongh at the Stormers
– Why the Southern Kings will only see Super Rugby if Saru makes some strong decisions and there is unity between the three provincial unions that make up the franchise
– Over a pint of Guinness, Munster centre Jean de Villiers talks about broadening his horizons, chirping Ronan O’Gara and his plans to return to South Africa in 2010
– A South African coach, South African businessman and a clutch of South African players have reversed the fortunes of Saracens
PLUS: Your ultimate guide to the 2010 Super 14 – all the teams, stats and facts
JP Duminy is on the cover of the new SA Cricket magazine. Click here for more
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17 Dec 2009, 20:50 pm
And yes Karoolander just for you I have to endorse it once again the black girls on that show were far more naturally beautiful than any of those white girls without any shadow of any doubt whatsoever, but unfortunate racially or ethnically motivated blind fools such as you would never ever be able to notice it.
17 Dec 2009, 20:55 pm
@skopskiet: So you are racist to white girls then.
Just funny how dark girls want to look like white girls. Straightening hair and to be slim.
I didn`t see any natural girls. They all look westernised to me.
African girls is naturally big bottomed and definately no long straight hair.
Heh?
17 Dec 2009, 21:32 pm
Thanks slappes its time I gave up on this one man crusade of sticking my contrary head inside this non evolving lions den. Its better for me and for all concerned that I stop feeding the controversy and become all Pc and docile and accepting of the average status quo. Girls are girls mostly beautiful some more so than others and usually its the more natural who present more of their beauty to the world. I guess its asking a bit much for pre conditioned prejudice to ever recognize true natural beauty for what it is, color hardly comes into it far as I can see, it simply depends what ones eyes can or cannot see depending on what stimulus the brain feeds out.. Time I get the hell out this shadow show of illusion. Gone.
17 Dec 2009, 21:48 pm
Skop, if you disappear from here I will forward your email addie to Jake White explaining your admiration of his coaching.
17 Dec 2009, 21:56 pm
@Slappes: you are very funny slappes.
sjopskiet, you are the biggest purveyor of snake oil on keo and your sanctimonious diatribes are always rooted in your belief in your own righteousness.
it is sad that a real person, a real HUMAN BEING like cab, may be lost to the rest of us because of a bitter and twisted old fool like you.
sad.
17 Dec 2009, 22:02 pm
Rangerman, whens baby-ranger arriving?
17 Dec 2009, 22:04 pm
@Slappes: howdy mate.
soon, soon.
scheduled for jan 10th but we shall see. the rangers have ever been an impatient folk.
17 Dec 2009, 22:09 pm
Ranger, thought so. Yeah the drill gonna be starting soon, and while you awake at those ungodly hours you could scope the bush for some nocturnal animals.
17 Dec 2009, 22:11 pm
Rangerman will probably rustle up some bushpig.
17 Dec 2009, 22:12 pm
@Slappes: ja, if i was in the bush man.
i am in durbs these days and get my fix on the beach.
today however, i spent time with my niece and nephew at ushaka marine world.
looked a bit like all the whales were coming home, damn there be some fat folk around come holiday time!
17 Dec 2009, 22:14 pm
@WP Till I Die: i will probably go and assist a farmer near tongaat pretty soon.
he has sugar cane and wild bushpigs.
an unfortunate combintion.
yummy.
17 Dec 2009, 22:16 pm
Hehehe – can you bag me some cane rat? I’ll pay the courier fees.
17 Dec 2009, 22:20 pm
WPTID
yeah hes a scaly b@stard! Ranger a mate of mine in kzn said black mambas love sugarcane fields. iow you are f@rkin mad to go in there!
17 Dec 2009, 22:21 pm
@WP Till I Die:
if i bag any i will be sure to share.
17 Dec 2009, 22:23 pm
@Slappes: hehe, green mamba too, though i have seen green mamba maybe 5 times.
but we dont go in slappes, we wait for them to come out
17 Dec 2009, 22:26 pm
mates, i gotta go snooze.
we are just waiting for the squeaker to arrive any day now so sleep is now something i feel i should get more aquainted with.
pleasant chat and many thanks!
tjorts
17 Dec 2009, 22:27 pm
I had an encounter with a black mamba once, I tell you what those things can MOVE. Hell, if one was bent on getting you you couldn’t run away. Scared the living daylights out of me.
17 Dec 2009, 22:30 pm
Ranger, thats unfair towards the poor piggies! You should track, stalk and catch them.
Green or black mamba – I will **** myself. Luckily we dont get them here.
17 Dec 2009, 22:33 pm
WPTID, whered you bump into the devil incarnate?
17 Dec 2009, 22:46 pm
@Slappes:
we have cape cobras instead…
17 Dec 2009, 22:58 pm
@Karoolander: works both ways to be honest, white girls want to be like darker girls too with their sunbeds, tanning lotions and hip implants.
@skopskiet: so you have no problem with cab as a person just an issue with a broken agreement, he did apologise for that and Johan is right when he says everyone makes mistakes, so hopefully you two can come to terms.
17 Dec 2009, 23:04 pm
Gunther,
yeah just as venomous but slower and way less agressive.
17 Dec 2009, 23:06 pm
@Big Hit: Big Hit, Gavin and Stacy has just started….Get your TV on pronto!!
17 Dec 2009, 23:15 pm
@rangerman: Best of wishes to your family. And enjoy the beauty of an undisturbed sleep – you will kiss goodbye to that till kids leave the home for good – say, after about 25 or so years.
Life will change forever soon.
17 Dec 2009, 23:23 pm
Rangerman you can have cab with all my blessings you doos *** idiotic twat *** ignoramus. You, just like cab don’t know real from illusion or reality from fiction, so go ahead doos *** delinquent goody two shoes schmuck *** mommy’s boy, I got no time for fake *** creeps like the two of you twits.
17 Dec 2009, 23:36 pm
@skopskiet:
Classic skop
17 Dec 2009, 23:54 pm
Thought you’d like it whatever sorry BH, no terms, terms long gone down the river, its truth or fiction for me, no 2nd grade compromises or easy option bale outs. The fence sitting cop out artists can bullsh’t themselves to eternity and beyond, aint no cop out when push comes to shove, you’ll see. . . . Ciao. . you amongst very few here have been a true unreserved mate. . Cheers n stay true, its all u got.
18 Dec 2009, 00:49 am
Ranger, Joe, Johan
Your comments are very much appreciated, but I am not interested in who is real or not, or a polemic battle of the truth seekers (whatever the hell that is) versus scientists (those evil ******** who’ve started all the wars).
Reality is a funny thing which can be twisted and turned by all sorts of minds and psychologies. Emotions tend to skew reality. Never more so true in a country like SA, which is nurtured from the cradle on rhetoric, emotion and faith.
I believe there are two types of realies, a subjective reality and an objective reality. Ou Doos tends to the former, i too the latter. Bottomline, I find him narrowminded and intolerant, and no doubt the feeling is mutual so the pattern of fighting will continue.
But to be honest, its xmas and i;m sick of all the ****** skop, skiet and donner. Let keo start the new year with some fresh blood coming through rather than all these massive egos.
18 Dec 2009, 01:17 am
Ranger, Joe, Johan
Your comments are very much appreciated, but I am not interested in who is real or not, or another skop, skiet and donner polemic of the truth seekers (whatever the hell that is) versus scientists (those evil ******** who’ve started all the wars).
The blogosphere is a virtual reality with allsorts of virtual idenities and realities created, which I suspect are very different in many respects from most on here with only glimpses being seen of real personalities. That is part of the game and i suspect everyone knows what really counts is our behaviour to those nearest and dearest to us in reality, as opposed to virtual reality.
But more generally, i believe there are two types of realities, a subjective reality and an objective reality. He tends to the former, I too the latter. I tend to the latter because i believe we each have our own subjective realities which are skewed by our own personal conditioning and emotions. Reality can be twisted and turned by all sorts of minds and psychologies. Emotions tend to skew reality. Never more so than in a country like SA, where most are nurtured from the cradle on rhetoric, emotion and faith.
If its truth we’re after, i want it warts and all, he wants beauty. I dont want the emotion to overwhelm the truth, he’ll call it cold reasoning. These are fundamental differences in outlook. Bottomline, I find him narrowminded and intolerant, and no doubt the feeling is mutual so the pattern of fighting will continue.
But to be honest, i;m just tired of all the skop, skiet and donner. Time for new things.
18 Dec 2009, 01:23 am
“you doos *** idiotic twat *** ignoramus”.
Amazingly grown up.
Jeepers.
And Skops there I thought that you had gone in a “puff of white dust”. That retirement was short lived, and your return …. well let’s let it rest.
But the guys you malign have been amongst the most tolerant of you.
But seriously who really cares?
18 Dec 2009, 01:29 am
@cab: Cab. I know what you mean. And if you go I understand. It has become tiresome, the vitriol, ignorance and lack of common decency & manners is just boring now (sad in itself).
But I like to hang out with you and Gunther, Robbie, Grant, WPTID, etc, etc. So I come back, and truthfully on rarely read the bollocks from the bullshitters. I just scroll.
The thing I don’t like now most of all is most of the bloggers know fokkol and care fokkol about rugby. Which is why I came here in the first place.
And why you enter the interminable debates is beyond me, but I suspect you like relaxing through discourse and absinthe, so ..
If you bugger off let me know how to get hold of you.
18 Dec 2009, 01:47 am
@SodaJoe:
No look i think its appealing to the majority actually, he should be paid by keo, but its not my default setting, and thats fine.
Skoppie is the ppl’s champion, the loveable mad-arse, good luck to him, i’ve found him very amusing. But the place is becoming embroiled in emotion, stupid emotion, alot of it probably necessary as part of the healing process, its a good thing and i am happy its been hijacked by the left rather than the right. The only thing is the right knows their rugby, the left have no farking clue. But one is farting against thunder when the mob rules, but personally i find it very hard to fight against the left even when i think they totally mad-arse deluded.
I enter the debates cos i find it fascinating how someone can arrive at certain conclusions, which i often happen to agree with, from such a very different approach and that is what i try to understand.
Its a very precarious balance one needs to achieve.
18 Dec 2009, 01:51 am
Soda,
Yes, time for a change, the blogging is addictive, but this has run its course. If you let me know your email, we keep in touch.
All the best my friend.
18 Dec 2009, 02:24 am
@skopskiet:
lol
That is one funny post
18 Dec 2009, 02:57 am
@Hurricane: command of his own language. “doos *** delinquent goody two shoes schmuck *** mommy’s boy”
Honestly. I am at a loss, this is the work of …..?
18 Dec 2009, 03:11 am
@carol: was watching the Wasps game, mind you, Gavin and Stacey might’ve been more entertaining (not really
)
@skopskiet: no probs skop, I always have time for people who are strong enough to say what they really think independently, there’s no point blogging at all if it’s just to go with the flow or blindly support a clique (sadly often political) like many do, or used to.
@cab: I think we all need a break from the blogosphere from time to time cab, but I don’t think you should leave entirely (if that’s what you’re saying). I know it’s the off-season for SA rugby just now and there isn’t much going on but be sure to blog when the rugby heats up again. For all it’s faults keo is actually mostly good banter/laughs when the games are on.
18 Dec 2009, 03:12 am
……….. a doos *** delinquent goody two shoes schmuck *** mommy’s boy
18 Dec 2009, 03:40 am
@skopskiet:
“yeah Wptid I’ve been likened to Don Quixote before…”
Personally for 3 seasons now I’ve prefered ‘Ubu the toothless Chihuahua’©… ‘tjanking’ away ad-nauseam about nothing much really…
Sit Ubu… sit… tjank… good old dog!
www. geckotales. com/worlds_ugliest_dog_sam.jpg
18 Dec 2009, 06:48 am
You not in search of truth you dumb fick deluded twat, warts n all, you in search of your own highfalutin brand of schmoozing self righteous watered down ivory tower soft soap syrupy rationality and the sound of your own indoctrinated brain ticking away in unison with your Newtonian laws of gravity. If you were in any way sincere about locating truth it would have smacked you flat in the face long time back already, god knows how much opportunity already bestowed on your dumb fe.ck deluded donkey brain. . . And yes soda shmoe I been intending to vacate this place for a little while, simply popped in the other evening for a little light shmoe banter as you wartless fiends are somewhat prone to do, when your warts n all pal here became intent on extricating some warts n all vengeance of rectitude he couldn’t quite get his dumb deluded Darwinian mind around that transpired far away from these innocent little self evaluating shores. So he got it, warts n all, and what you tasting now is the aftermath of this warts n all bubble bath. . . So moral of the story if you so intent on not wanting warts n all truth shoved down your gullible throat, then stop calling me back here again n again. For your own sake and for your rugby loving compatriots. . . Lets hope this is the last time we got to go through this delusionary shenanigan.
18 Dec 2009, 15:09 pm
@skopskiet: Come back. Don’t go. Your unintelligible muse has always been talismanic. Now it’s an exercise in a written version of a Jackson Pollock painting.
It’s become art.
Someone should get the binary code and publish it so we can see it visually.
22 Dec 2009, 17:42 pm
Wow! Looks like I’ve arrived just in time to see the site disintegrate upon itself…the final days. People threatening to leave left, right and centre here.
22 Dec 2009, 19:26 pm
Yetirat, bloggers have threatened to leave before only to return the next day. Others have left, only to return under new nics. See a pattern here?
22 Dec 2009, 19:37 pm
@skopskiet: I dont have warts but I like your talk, you’re a sexy one!
22 Dec 2009, 19:40 pm
@Porto: Looks like, now that the objective rugby people have left and formed their own closed site, the racist brownies are falling apart, thats a pity they were so much fun. Sean, bring the boys back! Valkyrie, where are you when I need you my girl!
22 Dec 2009, 19:42 pm
@SodaJoe: Deep, very deep.
22 Dec 2009, 20:00 pm
@Yetirat: this happened a few days ago Yetirat, pretty much everyone involved has been posting since, I think keo bumped it to the top for the end of the year. Ugly thread though I agree.
22 Dec 2009, 20:07 pm
i also don’t understand why this thread has been brought back up…
22 Dec 2009, 20:12 pm
795. Pearl Rose : Hits
People like the moron Skopskiet while deluded ideas of intellectual grandeur really get the rest worked up and the hits just keep on coming.
22 Dec 2009, 20:28 pm
Morning guys
Yes the boys did very well this year and should be proud
I am am very proud to be a springbok supporter
22 Dec 2009, 20:35 pm
I would like to see some changes in the laws for the new year.
1. Limit the ping pong kicking game. Not sure how
Maybe limit one kick each then they have to run the ball.
2. If kick at goal is missed, then defending team can ask for scrum form the mark where kick was taken.
3. Yellow card for any player who dives on opposition player who has just scored a try.
4. Off sides where player plays the ball close to his team mate but from an offside position. It should only be accidental offsides and no penalty
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