Lame Boks fall out…again
6 Feb 2010
The Springbok Sevens side suffered another Cup quarterfinal exit against Fiji for the third consecutive time this season.
The Blitzboks had another strong start to a tournament with convincing wins against Niue and World Cup champions Wales.
However, this was followed by a defeat against New Zealand, which set up a tough Cup quarterfinal fixture against their bogey team Fiji.
This was the third time the teams met in the quarterfinal stage this season, and it proved to be the third time the Boks would produce a poor showing against the Pacific Islanders.
The Boks were beaten 21-5 by a more physical, stronger Fijian outfit after a lackluster display in the second half.
The World Series defending champions were still within reach at half-time with a 7-0 deficit, but Fiji ran through for another two converted tries to eliminate the Boks to the Plate section. Branco du Preez scored a consolation try for South Africa.
In the Plate semi-final, the Blitzboks put in a better performance with a 29-5 win against Canada.
Franki Horne grabbed a brace while Mpho Mbiyozo, Kyle Brown and Ryno Benjamin also crossed the chalk to surge into the Plate final against Australia.
The Boks then somehow blew a 17-0 lead to end a disappointing sixth after losing 26-22 to the Aussies.
The Boks raced into an early buffer through tries from Chase Minnaar, Mzwandile Stick, and Ryno Benjamin, but Australia pulled one back through James Stannard on the half-time hooter.
When Bernard Foley scored straight after the break, the Boks led by just three. The Boks’ poor defence, for the umpteenth time this season, allowed the Australians back into it, and is the main reason why they’ve had such a poor start to the series.
Kimani Situati claimed the third, again an embarrassing effort in the tackle from the Boks. Stick claimed one back to to give the Boks a brief lead, but Clinton Sills earned the winner, thanks again to woeful defence.
In other results, Samoa shocked World Series log leaders New Zealand with a 24-12 victory in the Cup semi-final. The Samoans couldn’t repeat the upset in the final as Fiji took the title with a thrilling 19-14 victory.
Springbok Sevens results, Day 2:
Cup Quarterfinal 4: Fiji 21 South Africa 5
Plate semi-final 1: Canada 5 South Africa 29
Plate final: Australia 26 South Africa 22
For more results and fixtures click here
By Gareth Duncan
251 Comments
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6 Feb 2010, 10:45 am
Look, sevens rugby is a bit of a joke all over the world (except for the islands). In all the big rugby playing nations the squads consist of players who can`t get contracts for the bigger 15 man competitions (in SA that would be Vodacom Cup, CC and Super 14). The players playing in the 7`s code are clearly players playing at a lower level and mostly suited to those still developing their game. I think the best example of this was when Wales picked a few established, regional level rugby players for their 7`s squad and they went on to win the 7`s world cup. Still fun to watch sevens though.
6 Feb 2010, 10:46 am
Need to do some exercise… chat later.. Give you guys time to pull yourselves together.. My awesome power is intimidating
6 Feb 2010, 10:55 am
Wellington’s vibe shows up what an enormous yawn the boring small-town George snore-festival is. There everyone who is still awake just goes home when the yarpies are knocked out, which is usually not very far into the proceedings. And everyone is dressed in the unimaginative drab uniformity of faux Bok jerseys.
6 Feb 2010, 10:56 am
Tackler, get a life.
6 Feb 2010, 10:57 am
@grant10: @37 just ensure you have Smit at prop for 2011 Grant, as for the pressure… dont quite think there will be as much as you imagine, think the public will be a little more reserved and hopeful..
dont think there will be as much expectation as the 07 side had…
and at least we’ll be able to field a team without having to leave our best players behind, like whenever we used to tour the republic..
6 Feb 2010, 11:01 am
@TheTackler: Are you the same tackler that blogs in Sunday times online… I am trying to work out where all the negativity comes from… Many things P me off but I tend to have some fun at times… Wazzup dude..speak to me.. I also think George is snore-ville.. I watched teh Presidents Cup there… and we had to fly the action in from CT
6 Feb 2010, 11:06 am
Well fk then… even Tackler finds me intimidating
6 Feb 2010, 11:07 am
@poppa69: 55
Hi poppa…off to new Green Point stadium for Stormers friendly.
Not being vindictive….but i am seriously thinking you boys will find the pressure very hot…
Smit at 3….you as bad as BH…trying to let us give you the advantage…..no …get prepared for a war from our front row….BJ for 50 …then CJ for 30!!
Smit at 2 or on bench…
Or at home watching it on telly.
6 Feb 2010, 11:09 am
@grant10: @16
its 7s, G10
that should have been beneath even you.
@grant10:
crikey, how old ARE you ?!
pathetic
6 Feb 2010, 11:09 am
No one finds you intimidating, only irritating
6 Feb 2010, 11:11 am
@Fern:
Hmmm i heard it was a sell out.
Fern,have you sat in a seat for 10 odd hours?
Normal people get up,go for a feed,even the toilet.
Anyway compare this tournament to one SA puts on and the Wellington sevens is by far the better one.
6 Feb 2010, 11:13 am
@Black Panther: see 58
No malicious intent
Just voicing a real concern
As every kiwi should be doing
6 Feb 2010, 11:15 am
@Kobus Kitty:
Funny thing is,all you guys put in the sevens world title when you start gloating about all the trophys etc you have. Sniff a lose and all of a sudden its not real rugby. The only losers today were so called fans like you that all of a sudden ditch your national team.
6 Feb 2010, 11:15 am
@grant10:
CJ regularly gets his head scrummed through his arse, nothing more than a bench prop that can cover both sides.
@The Almighty Shaun:
Run along little man, Freud would have had a field day with your inferiority complex.
6 Feb 2010, 11:15 am
@grant10: Hi grant, enjoy the game mate.. I know youre not being vindictive, sfunny though how everyone harps on about a knockout tournament and the pressure on the ABs… but thats the beauty of sport… if the ABs had won 2 or 3 of those tournaments do you honestly think it would be as big as it is? not sure myself.. would seem similar to the harlem globetrotters and their “streak”
our time will come, and when it does I will be insufferable on here, thats a guarantee..
6 Feb 2010, 11:16 am
@Rebels_Shark: 64
And Smit doesent?
Even our opposition are begging us to keep smit at 3
Wakey wakey!
6 Feb 2010, 11:17 am
@poppa69: LOL
I know the passion for the game Poppa….i have that juice in my veins too!!
Respect!
6 Feb 2010, 11:19 am
@Rebels_Shark: Speaking of Freud.. I note the deflection on yourside.. My ego is too huge for an inferiority complex.. there is loads of ***** you can thrown at me.. but IC is definitely not the right one
6 Feb 2010, 11:21 am
Kallis and Amla doing the business…bat boys bat!!
6 Feb 2010, 11:22 am
@Rebels_Shark: My spelling is a bit ***** at times.. focus on that in the mean time
6 Feb 2010, 11:23 am
“and at least we’ll be able to field a team without having to leave our best players behind, like whenever we used to tour the republic..”
Rubbish. I`ve been watching the AB`s since 1976 touring SA. That team was full of Maori and other non-white players (eg. Going, Brian Williams, etc.). In the early years of rugby in NZ your national team consisted almost entirely of white players anyway. The situation has changed recently since you have been shamelessly raping the surrounding islands of their rugby talent.
6 Feb 2010, 11:24 am
Really gonna step out for a bit… Cheers all
6 Feb 2010, 11:27 am
Go Man Untd…Arsenal…Italy…Wales…Ireland and stormers
Make my weekend
And of course….Kallis,Amla and the boys!
Cheers
Off to Cape Town Stadium…
heeeehaaa
6 Feb 2010, 11:29 am
Could not let this one go
@Springbokvel: …fkit mate.. how dof are you.. Please don’t point a finger at Jacob Zuma.. you make him look like one of our finest gifts to humanity
6 Feb 2010, 11:29 am
@grant10:
That is PDV choice, all Snor with Smit @ 3 and no OS players.
Not sure the BIL’s nor 3N teams agree with you, Boks smashed both.
6 Feb 2010, 11:30 am
@grant10: true Grant.. I’ll always go to war for my team, as I know you do too..
though some would say Im insufferable now
when youre young and fed a diet of great rugby, hard for it not to course through the veins..
and will always respect SA rugby… theres a handful of supporters on here who get my full respect too, like Mish and Puma and PA.. they talk rugby without the need for denigration…
6 Feb 2010, 11:31 am
@Springbokvel: funny you mention Bryan Williams, the first “honorary white” to tour SA, enough said…
6 Feb 2010, 11:40 am
@Springbokvel:
you have been watching since 1976?
Amazing how you left out the years before 1976. Williams was one of the first that was allowed.
6 Feb 2010, 11:41 am
“funny you mention Bryan Williams, the first “honorary white” to tour SA, enough said…”
Name all of the so-called non-white All Black players that the Springboks refused to play against.
6 Feb 2010, 11:55 am
George Nepia, Mac Herewini spring to mind.
6 Feb 2010, 11:56 am
@Springbokvel: “In the early years of rugby in NZ your national team consisted almost entirely of white players anyway. ”
really, never heard of players like George Nepia, Wilson Whineray, Johnny Smith and Ben Couch to name a few?
In May 1960 the All Blacks were due to leave for a tour of South Africa. They had finally won a series for the first time in 1956 and this was a much anticipated rematch between the two powerhouses of world rugby. However the 1960 tour is best remembered for the fact that no players of Maori descent were selected. The decision to comply with South Africa’s strict segregationist apartheid policies by not selecting Maori players caused an outrage. Some of the biggest public protests in New Zealand’s history failed to convince the Labour government to intervene.
In 1888-89, the ‘New Zealand Natives’ were the first overseas team to tour the Home Nations…
so Im lost with your comment…
6 Feb 2010, 11:56 am
@Springbokvel:
I found this,maybe you should read.
No Maoris – No Tour’ poster, 1959.
In May 1960 the All Blacks were due to leave for a tour of South Africa. They had finally won a series for the first time in 1956 and this was a much anticipated rematch between the two powerhouses of world rugby. However the 1960 tour is best remembered for the fact that no players of Maori descent were selected. The decision to comply with South Africa’s strict segregationist apartheid policies by not selecting Maori players caused an outrage. Some of the biggest public protests in New Zealand’s history failed to convince the Labour government to intervene. Prime Minister Walter Nash supported the rugby union, arguing that to include Maori ‘would be an act of the greatest folly and cruelty to the Maori race’.
The Citizens’ All Black Tour Association, of which Ngai Tahu leader Frank Winter was a prominent member, campaigned to stop the tour, using the slogan ‘No Maoris – No Tour’. More than 150,000 New Zealanders signed a petition opposing the tour – it remains one of the largest petitions in our history. Others marched in the streets to voice their opposition. One unique form of protest came from the hugely popular Howard Morrison Quartet. Band member Gerry Merito transformed Lonnie Donegan’s ‘My old man’s a dustman’ into ‘My old man’s an All Black’ to make a point about the decision to tour without Maori.
Despite these protests the tour went ahead.
When the All Blacks toured South Africa in 1970, Maori players were able to travel as ‘honorary whites’, a decision that appalled Winter and others in New Zealand’s growing anti-apartheid movement.
The Springboks played a New Zealand Maori XV at Napier on the first tour in 1921, winning narrowly 9–8. One South African journalist reported his shock at witnessing white supporters actively supporting the Maori XV. The two teams next met in 1956 when the New Zealand Maoris were defeated 37–0 and again in 1965 when they were defeated 9–3. Napier was the venue in 1981 when the two teams fought out a draw – 12 all.
On the 1976 tour to South Africa the All Blacks played a South African Coloureds team in Cape Town, winning 25–3.
Dosnt name players but i am sure i will find the names of many.
6 Feb 2010, 11:58 am
@poppa69:
lol
hey poppa,looks like we googled the same page,shame springbokvel is to blind to google
6 Feb 2010, 11:59 am
@Springbokvel: and besides, that original comment was tongue in cheek to Grant10, Im glad he understood that..
6 Feb 2010, 12:00 pm
@Hurricane: tis a shame indeed
6 Feb 2010, 12:06 pm
@poppa69: Whineray is pakeha. He played the Boks in 1956 and captained NZ on their 1960 tour to South Africa.
6 Feb 2010, 12:14 pm
isn’t bryan williams samoan?
i think his son plays for them
or is it interchangeable amongst the islands?
6 Feb 2010, 12:15 pm
@Springbokvel: Post 79.
So many Good Players (either Maori or Conscientious Objectors) were left out of the 1949 All Blacks Tour to SA, that a Home Series was simultaneously played against Australia.
Both were disasters………but I hope you take the point.
6 Feb 2010, 12:17 pm
@TheTackler: my mistake…
anyways, heres a few that couldnt tour..
1928
George Nepia
1949
Ben Couch
JB Smith
1960
Waka Nathan (black panther)
Pat Walsh
Mac Herewini
Tiny Hill
6 Feb 2010, 12:18 pm
The only time that SA officially refused to play against non-white All Blacks was in 1967. NZ cancelled that tour. From 1970 non-white players were again accepted. If NZ failed to select non-white players prior to 1967 it was because of their own racial mentality (very few non-white players made their national team prior to that anyway). It will be interesting to know how many Maori players actually did tour with the AB`s prior to 1960. I venture that quite a few have slipped through the net and have actually toured SA prior to that anyway (also because there would not have been official refusal from the SA government at the time).
6 Feb 2010, 12:19 pm
@charo:
yep,he is samoan.
6 Feb 2010, 12:19 pm
Waka Nathan remembers a tour of South Africa in 1967 falling over, and he was happy that it did. South African Prime Minister John Vorster set three conditions for Maori touring: There shouldn’t be too many, they shouldn’t be too black and no controversy should surround their “selection and dispatch”.
6 Feb 2010, 12:21 pm
@Springbokvel:
Now you are blaming NZ,lol,you are clueless
Again read the passage.
“However the 1960 tour is best remembered for the fact that no players of Maori descent were selected. The decision to comply with South Africa’s strict segregationist apartheid policies by not selecting Maori players caused an outrage.”
6 Feb 2010, 12:24 pm
@charo:
Brian George Williams was born in Auckland in 1950.
One of his parents was Samoan.
His son Paul, currently plays fullback for the Auckland Blues. He had previously played a season for the Highlanders. And one day, he too, will be fine All Black.
6 Feb 2010, 12:30 pm
@Springbokvel:
This is a fact. So remember it. I will type it only once.
Prior to 1970, the South African Rugby Union issued invitations to Tour South Africa, to players of European Heritage only.
It is to NZ’s shame that we accepted those conditions.
6 Feb 2010, 12:30 pm
@Hurricane:
the ab selectors should have chosen the strongest team in those days and laid a challenge to the nat govt.
the nats would have backed off and let the tour go ahead – otherwise the white population of sa would have gone beserk
6 Feb 2010, 12:30 pm
@grant10: “i would be seriously concerned if i was a KIWI
Cant win at home…pressure nails them
Take this pressure x a 1000000….thats the heat come 2011
Just cant see them coping.”
You better worry about reaching semifinals at all then.
6 Feb 2010, 12:31 pm
@cane: agreed Cane, as shameful as the cavaliers touring too..
6 Feb 2010, 12:33 pm
@cane:
can he still become an all black if he has already represented samoa?
6 Feb 2010, 12:37 pm
“The decision to comply with South Africa’s strict segregationist apartheid policies by not selecting Maori players caused an outrage.””
They weren`t officially refused to tour. Your administrators did not have the balls to select them. Blame your own softcocks. You guys have come up with fewer than 10 players of colour over the years that supposedly could have toured SA. Too few to make any impact on the result of a test series anyway. Clutching at straws.
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