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	<title>Comments on: Steyn&#8217;s French freedom</title>
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		<title>By: RugbyStudent</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1568391</link>
		<dc:creator>RugbyStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Picking overseas players costs just too much many with too much management overhead.

if you take:

BJ Botha
CJ Botha
Joe van Niekerk
Butch James
Fans Steyn
Jean de Villiers, etc

How much do you think it will cost to fly them in and out of SA. How will you track their progress? These guys as much as they earn will not pay for their own tickets. I think it makes sense while we are still doing good as a team to stick to local players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking overseas players costs just too much many with too much management overhead.</p>
<p>if you take:</p>
<p>BJ Botha<br />
CJ Botha<br />
Joe van Niekerk<br />
Butch James<br />
Fans Steyn<br />
Jean de Villiers, etc</p>
<p>How much do you think it will cost to fly them in and out of SA. How will you track their progress? These guys as much as they earn will not pay for their own tickets. I think it makes sense while we are still doing good as a team to stick to local players.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark Supporter</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1559628</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark Supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see De Villiers side of the story on not wanting over-seas based players (to keep &#039;em in the country) but why the hell leave this monster of a player out, flip, if we have problems in the backline, he can fix &#039;em! And don&#039;t get my started on kicking!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see De Villiers side of the story on not wanting over-seas based players (to keep &#8216;em in the country) but why the hell leave this monster of a player out, flip, if we have problems in the backline, he can fix &#8216;em! And don&#8217;t get my started on kicking!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536632</link>
		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Parisians are a bunch of pricks and they can nuke the place anytime if they wish...

Just get Frans out first.

Are my feelings clear enough?


@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1536544&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slumtown&lt;/a&gt;: Ebersohn was pointe dout by a kiwi Reunions commentator as having come out fo line a few times against the Canes, and was criticising teh canes fro not going down his channel. He needs to watch hmself and his enthusiasm. This is not sevens - this is the 15 man game and teamwork is all important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Parisians are a bunch of pricks and they can nuke the place anytime if they wish&#8230;</p>
<p>Just get Frans out first.</p>
<p>Are my feelings clear enough?</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-1536544" rel="nofollow">Slumtown</a>: Ebersohn was pointe dout by a kiwi Reunions commentator as having come out fo line a few times against the Canes, and was criticising teh canes fro not going down his channel. He needs to watch hmself and his enthusiasm. This is not sevens &#8211; this is the 15 man game and teamwork is all important.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaboom</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536602</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaboom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ebersohn has bulked up, he now weighs 86 kg&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebersohn has bulked up, he now weighs 86 kg&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536544</link>
		<dc:creator>Slumtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some very insightful thoughts from the young man and he seems to be thinking through his rugby.
I agree with him 12 is his best position by a mile. 
He´s a natural there. Stop stuffing him around and play him at 12. Finally we have some deadly centres both first team and subs...
imagine
12 De Villiers
12 Frans Steyn/ Wynand Olivier
13 Jacques Fourie
13 Juan de Jongh

Killer combos whichever way you look at it. Just need another really solid 13. 
Perhaps Ebersohn will step up this year. His size worries me though. We always have old Adi to fall back on. But he´s getting a bit long in the tooth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very insightful thoughts from the young man and he seems to be thinking through his rugby.<br />
I agree with him 12 is his best position by a mile.<br />
He´s a natural there. Stop stuffing him around and play him at 12. Finally we have some deadly centres both first team and subs&#8230;<br />
imagine<br />
12 De Villiers<br />
12 Frans Steyn/ Wynand Olivier<br />
13 Jacques Fourie<br />
13 Juan de Jongh</p>
<p>Killer combos whichever way you look at it. Just need another really solid 13.<br />
Perhaps Ebersohn will step up this year. His size worries me though. We always have old Adi to fall back on. But he´s getting a bit long in the tooth.</p>
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		<title>By: Shark_fan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536501</link>
		<dc:creator>Shark_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1536133&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RedLion&lt;/a&gt;: I agree with you. The Sharks management of Frans and Ruaan for that matter has been terrible. There&#039;s a rot in the Sharks management at present.

Although is seems he would&#039;ve left anyway, the Sharks haven&#039;t done themselves any favours in the event he decides to come back to SA.
It will be sad if he doesn&#039;t play for the Boks in the WC. His performances in the 3N last year totally demoralized the opposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1536133" rel="nofollow">RedLion</a>: I agree with you. The Sharks management of Frans and Ruaan for that matter has been terrible. There&#8217;s a rot in the Sharks management at present.</p>
<p>Although is seems he would&#8217;ve left anyway, the Sharks haven&#8217;t done themselves any favours in the event he decides to come back to SA.<br />
It will be sad if he doesn&#8217;t play for the Boks in the WC. His performances in the 3N last year totally demoralized the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: logie_Jumpbuck</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536422</link>
		<dc:creator>logie_Jumpbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frans is dangerous when you give him free reigns....put him in a box and all you get is another rugby-robot. 

I think he would flourish under the current laws in S14.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frans is dangerous when you give him free reigns&#8230;.put him in a box and all you get is another rugby-robot. </p>
<p>I think he would flourish under the current laws in S14.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536416</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15 or 12 are his positions.

For the Boks 15 as i would have JVD at 12. In time he could become the incubent 12.

At the last WC he was absolutely superb at 12. Solid defense and some lovely breaks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 or 12 are his positions.</p>
<p>For the Boks 15 as i would have JVD at 12. In time he could become the incubent 12.</p>
<p>At the last WC he was absolutely superb at 12. Solid defense and some lovely breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536414</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really good interview

Agree the boks need him. The man is born to play rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good interview</p>
<p>Agree the boks need him. The man is born to play rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536404</link>
		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1536369&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP_&lt;/a&gt;: I think Maths is his very strong point, he knew exactly how much he would be earning over the next 3 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1536369" rel="nofollow">WP_</a>: I think Maths is his very strong point, he knew exactly how much he would be earning over the next 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536376</link>
		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad he is enjoying himself in France.

But it seems this Wunderkind doesnt know what he wants really.

He really prefers the position &quot;he is doing well at that time&quot;.Because last yr after Tri-Nations he was stating that he prefers playing 15 as it gives him more freedom etc etc(note: e had just kicked 2 50m penalties and was playing well there)

During 2009 prior ro being named starting 15 for Boks,having not had the best season at 12 for Sharks,he rescinded back to the &quot;I want to play flyhalf&quot; rhetoric..

Now its...I want to play 12 etc..

IMHO he is a 15

And the decision to go to France was one made out of petulance and not being favoured/darling at the time.Then he had a successful 2nd half of Tri Nations-rhetoric changed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad he is enjoying himself in France.</p>
<p>But it seems this Wunderkind doesnt know what he wants really.</p>
<p>He really prefers the position &#8220;he is doing well at that time&#8221;.Because last yr after Tri-Nations he was stating that he prefers playing 15 as it gives him more freedom etc etc(note: e had just kicked 2 50m penalties and was playing well there)</p>
<p>During 2009 prior ro being named starting 15 for Boks,having not had the best season at 12 for Sharks,he rescinded back to the &#8220;I want to play flyhalf&#8221; rhetoric..</p>
<p>Now its&#8230;I want to play 12 etc..</p>
<p>IMHO he is a 15</p>
<p>And the decision to go to France was one made out of petulance and not being favoured/darling at the time.Then he had a successful 2nd half of Tri Nations-rhetoric changed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WP_</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536369</link>
		<dc:creator>WP_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stupid to sign a 3 year deal so close to a RWC. Maths is clearly not Fransie&#039;s strong point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid to sign a 3 year deal so close to a RWC. Maths is clearly not Fransie&#8217;s strong point.</p>
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		<title>By: wpjoulekkading</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536359</link>
		<dc:creator>wpjoulekkading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1536213&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WOLFMAN21&lt;/a&gt;: 
Oh come one Wolfman, it has been showen many times that a large percentage of Bulls players were developed at other unions, at least at young age!
Check which players comes from which u21 sides and then come make your claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1536213" rel="nofollow">WOLFMAN21</a>:<br />
Oh come one Wolfman, it has been showen many times that a large percentage of Bulls players were developed at other unions, at least at young age!<br />
Check which players comes from which u21 sides and then come make your claims.</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536310</link>
		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1536306&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jauzy19&lt;/a&gt;: I missed that one - I am guessing JC has not watched much Top 14 then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1536306" rel="nofollow">jauzy19</a>: I missed that one &#8211; I am guessing JC has not watched much Top 14 then.</p>
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		<title>By: jauzy19</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536306</link>
		<dc:creator>jauzy19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Top 14, a tournament that is of a lower standard than the Currie Cup&quot;

LOL

OMG i can&#039;t stop laughing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Top 14, a tournament that is of a lower standard than the Currie Cup&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>OMG i can&#8217;t stop laughing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536300</link>
		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JC, it is parlez-vous francais. When francais is used in a sentence as an adjective or the language it should not be capitalised. I also assume you don&#039;t call Frans Mr. Steyn so no need for you to be on vous terms... and perhaps seeing as this was going into a publication it should have been researched rather than just stuck in there because everyone knows that phrase - or apparently not as you have shown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, it is parlez-vous francais. When francais is used in a sentence as an adjective or the language it should not be capitalised. I also assume you don&#8217;t call Frans Mr. Steyn so no need for you to be on vous terms&#8230; and perhaps seeing as this was going into a publication it should have been researched rather than just stuck in there because everyone knows that phrase &#8211; or apparently not as you have shown.</p>
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		<title>By: fish out of water</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536259</link>
		<dc:creator>fish out of water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can he have lived in France for 5 months and not be able to speak any French. Either he is just plain stupid or can&#039;t be bothered to learn the language. You also need more than 2 hours a week to learn the language. And yes most of the French can speak English but why should they... I don&#039;t think a French person would go to Bloemfontein and start speaking French to the locals.

Other than that I saw him playing against Montpelier the other day and &quot;Francois Schtun&quot; as the French pronounce it didn&#039;t really have the greatest game - he was running around like a bit of a headless chicken at times. In previous games he has looked quite good and he still has his massive boot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can he have lived in France for 5 months and not be able to speak any French. Either he is just plain stupid or can&#8217;t be bothered to learn the language. You also need more than 2 hours a week to learn the language. And yes most of the French can speak English but why should they&#8230; I don&#8217;t think a French person would go to Bloemfontein and start speaking French to the locals.</p>
<p>Other than that I saw him playing against Montpelier the other day and &#8220;Francois Schtun&#8221; as the French pronounce it didn&#8217;t really have the greatest game &#8211; he was running around like a bit of a headless chicken at times. In previous games he has looked quite good and he still has his massive boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Eminem</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536240</link>
		<dc:creator>Eminem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never knew he was so eloquent .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew he was so eloquent .</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steyn was (is) hopelessly overated. Apart from one or two prodigious drop goals what has he done? He doesnt have the speed of hand to foot to be a flyhalf, dies with the ball at 12 and does not want to play anywhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steyn was (is) hopelessly overated. Apart from one or two prodigious drop goals what has he done? He doesnt have the speed of hand to foot to be a flyhalf, dies with the ball at 12 and does not want to play anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Train</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/03/09/steyns-french-freedom/#comment-1536222</link>
		<dc:creator>Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love to have him back in the Bok team (but at fullback not centre)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love to have him back in the Bok team (but at fullback not centre)</p>
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