Tahs crush lousy Lions
12 Mar 2010
The Lions delivered another poor defensive display as Drew Mitchell scored four tries in the Waratahs’ 73-12 win in Sydney.
This fixture was talked about as the Lions’ best chance of victory, even though they had never beaten the Tahs in Sydney. That hope was short-lived, however, as after just 32 minutes, the hosts wrapped up the bonus point. The Lions have now conceded 29 tries in the tournament, which tells the story of a shocking start to the season.
The Tahs were under pressure from their supporters and the Australian media, but their fans had plenty to cheer about as they crossed the line 11 times.
Carlos Spencer gifted the Tahs their first two tries, the first when the Lions won a turnover but opted to run from deep. This is the approach coach Dick Muir loves to see, but it cost the Lions as the Tahs won the ball back, and from an ensuing penalty, Drew Mitchell tapped and dived over the line. Earlier in the move, Tonderai Chavhanga had also rushed out of the defensive line handing the Tahs the momentum.
The Waratahs winger went from hero to villain momentarily as a mistake behind his own goal-line gifted Chavhanga a score. The Tahs led 7-5 after seven minutes, but then Spencer was again at his worst. His kick was charged and gathered by Dean Mumm who cantered over with the cover defence non-existent.
The Lions’ defence was typically porous as they missed 12 tackles inside 25 minutes. The Tahs were hardly made to work as the Lions handed another Australasian team a bonus point – the third time they’ve conceded five log points in 2010.
Tom Carter crashed over before Wandile Mjekevu’s mistake (which was similar to Mitchell’s) saw Lachie Turner claim the fourth try.
The Lions were intent on running, but clearly lacked confidence, as Spencer and Earl Rose hacked away possession aimlessly. The Tahs were buoyed by the visitors’ mistakes and looked to counter from deep, and Berrick Barnes also drove the Lions back with some lengthy touch-finders.
Muir finally lost patience with his halfbacks as JP Joubert and Spencer were replaced by Jano Vermaak and Burton Francis at half-time. The latter pair didn’t lack effort, but without the platform from their pack, they battled to make an impact.
The Lions have successfully brought other teams, such as the Brumbies, down to their level, but the Tahs kept their structure and scored a further six tries in the second half. The Lions opted to run everything in the final 40, and Mitchell capitalised from their numerous errors to complete a personal tally of four tries.
Muir will undoubtedly find ‘positives’ in this display, but the Lions are going nowhere slowly. The seven-time champions Crusaders lie in wait, and if the Lions’ woeful defence continues, they can expect another hiding.
By Grant Ball
620 Comments
12 Mar 2010, 10:16 am
hmmmm
12 Mar 2010, 10:17 am
The Lions can do this. Who the f*ck is the REf by the way ? before i get too hopeful
12 Mar 2010, 10:21 am
I can allready see Chavangha score a break away try out of his own 22.
Come on Lions.
12 Mar 2010, 10:24 am
who’s starting at ref for the waratahs?
12 Mar 2010, 10:27 am
Gaan welpies!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 10:33 am
@TheTackler:
Got something stuck in your navel again?
12 Mar 2010, 10:36 am
@Dawn:
hes trying to think of something negative and condescending to say.
12 Mar 2010, 10:38 am
Hallo All!!!
Who do u guys reckon will replace Brussouw in the Bok line up?
12 Mar 2010, 10:40 am
Lions to lose by 20.
12 Mar 2010, 10:41 am
@5t0rmer54eva: There can only be 1…The Schalk..!!
12 Mar 2010, 10:42 am
@5t0rmer54eva:
He is irreplaceable.
12 Mar 2010, 10:43 am
@Cyborg: Yah…’Tahs are hurting after they played 16 men on the pitch last week
They got too much in reserve for the Lions to upset ‘em..!
12 Mar 2010, 10:44 am
@5t0rmer54eva: Stegmann or Potgieter. Question is whether you want to go with the new Schalk or a true fetcher?
@Cyborg: Make that 30
12 Mar 2010, 10:44 am
@Storm outta hell: Schalk is already part of the picture…… do u think Steggman is the man for the job?
12 Mar 2010, 10:44 am
@Dawn: True dat!!!
12 Mar 2010, 10:45 am
i am doing so badly on superbru i have picked both lions and sharks to win by 1 point. i figured i may as well go for broke. i also bought a lotto ticket coz i got more chance of winning that!
12 Mar 2010, 10:45 am
Try saving tackle…where was Rose..?
12 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
Come one the Lions ROAR
12 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
@Horings: I know this is coming from a stormers supporter, but what about Flouw?
12 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
@5t0rmer54eva:
What’s the beef.
This thread belongs to the Lions.
12 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
@5t0rmer54eva: Yep…Steggies fills the role perfectly,Kuun not half bad either imo…
12 Mar 2010, 10:48 am
@Dawn: Sorry
12 Mar 2010, 10:48 am
why is rose playing? has he got something on muir?
12 Mar 2010, 10:48 am
@5t0rmer54eva: I personally rate him more than anybody other than my Bulls loosies, Brussow and Smith. I think his work rate is right up there.
12 Mar 2010, 10:49 am
@5t0rmer54eva: Flo is awesome.. but playing at 7 now…
12 Mar 2010, 10:49 am
Chavanga..!!!
12 Mar 2010, 10:50 am
@munkiboi:
12 Mar 2010, 10:51 am
lions try
12 Mar 2010, 10:51 am
Good grubber from ER…hopefully we get some more good play..
12 Mar 2010, 10:52 am
Spencer
12 Mar 2010, 10:53 am
Shades of Chiefs -Lions game already..!
12 Mar 2010, 10:53 am
but let the Tahs straight bakc in, swak
12 Mar 2010, 10:55 am
the lions are trying all sorts of crazy sh#t!! maybe they should stick to the basics for once!!!
12 Mar 2010, 10:58 am
The referee just asked Phil Waugh if he is getting ‘quick enough ball’. How does that work ?
Ref: ‘Oy there Phil – are those South Africans allowing you to get to the ball mate ?’
Phil: ‘No mate, they are trying to keep it all for themselves’
Ref: ‘Dont worry mate, just like we discussed at that Barby we had last weekend, when you allowed me to play with some of your sheep, I will just penalise them a bit, and stop them from trying to beat your team ok ?’
Phil: ‘Much appreciated mate. You can have whatever sheep Paulie Marks left over after our victory party last Saturday night’
Can the Aussies play ANY sport – ANYTHING without cheating ?
12 Mar 2010, 11:00 am
could be a long night at the office for the Lions
12 Mar 2010, 11:01 am
Why doesn’t the linesman rep say anything about Ben Alexander’s hand on the ground :mrblue:
12 Mar 2010, 11:01 am
@Dusky:
Who’s the ref?
12 Mar 2010, 11:01 am
I’m not trying to find anything negative and condescending to say. One never really looks for those things. They just emerge quite naturally from wherever it is that these things are meant to emerge.
“For your edification and your delight.
The headlines hit deadlines on Thursday night.”
If not sooner. Or later.
(Apologies, Nick Taylor en Springbok Radio.)
12 Mar 2010, 11:03 am
@Dusky: surely those weren’t his exact words?
12 Mar 2010, 11:04 am
go LIONS!!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:05 am
@Dawn: Billy Munro (spelling ?)
@logie_Jumpbuck: Of course not – I am making a joke. But he did go to Phil and ask him ‘Is the ball coming out quick enough mate ?’ What on earth is that about ?
12 Mar 2010, 11:07 am
What a farce.Surely we cannot have a repeat of last week
against the Sharks.The Waratahs prop is putting his hand on the ground time and again, right in front of the Aussie Assistant ref, to support himself ,but the Lions are penalised.
Get rid of these Aussie refs, the sooner the better.
12 Mar 2010, 11:07 am
Are you getting quick enough ball phil?
Priceless…
Is my whistle too loud?
I can turn it down if you like…
Is it warm enough for you phil ?
How about a foot rub..
12 Mar 2010, 11:08 am
@TheTackler:
From your navel?
12 Mar 2010, 11:08 am
Ref is shocking at scrum time.
12 Mar 2010, 11:09 am
@Dawn: 6
12 Mar 2010, 11:09 am
@Dusky: The ref is from New zealand.
12 Mar 2010, 11:09 am
@Dusky: that’s what i mean? did the ref actualy say ‘Is the ball coming out quick enough mate ?’ i smell a rat…..
12 Mar 2010, 11:10 am
Guys no point blaming the ref, what is shocking is the lions defence. It’s terrible. The lions should try sign some of the Bulls and cheetahs youngsters from the vodacom cup team. They need talented players.
12 Mar 2010, 11:10 am
You know what if I was the Lions captain I would march my troops right of the field and not return unless the game
was refereed by some less biased referee.
12 Mar 2010, 11:10 am
Toothless Lions
12 Mar 2010, 11:10 am
@Brentie1: I agree – what a farce. Its so clearly biased now, the only people who can watch this rugby without getting a ulcer are Waratahs supporters and those who dont know the rules.
Flippin ridiculous.
12 Mar 2010, 11:11 am
@TheTackler: Your comments are like paging through a 1980′s Huisgenoot while waitng at the dentist…
12 Mar 2010, 11:11 am
I see an Earl Rose conversion is worth zero points..?
Waratahs 21, Lions 5 – with a try from Chavanga and conversion from Rose?
Poor Earl – even the scorecards have it in for him!
12 Mar 2010, 11:12 am
@logie_Jumpbuck: The ref said ‘Is the ball coming out quickly enough mate’ Those words exactly. Watch the replay, and you’ll see.
12 Mar 2010, 11:12 am
@Mongril: Earl missed. Way wide to the left.
12 Mar 2010, 11:13 am
The Loins are being braised over hot Aussie coals. They’re almost resembling groins.
12 Mar 2010, 11:13 am
who’s the ref? i know people who know people who can help in NZ.
12 Mar 2010, 11:13 am
49. Pirlet BEL
You cannot defend scrambling backwards if you are unfairly
penalised for scrum infringements, because you have to break up
retread.
12 Mar 2010, 11:15 am
Palu on ER
12 Mar 2010, 11:16 am
@logie_Jumpbuck: Vinny Munro.
12 Mar 2010, 11:20 am
YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN
…….and so it goes, no wonder the stands are empty these days
12 Mar 2010, 11:23 am
@TheTackler: mmmmmmmmmmm I see my mate is in fine fettle today.
I was wastching a bit of the slaughtering that the black craps were taking at Eden Park the other day and couldnt but notice another of these “magnificent” stadiums our Island brothers are re-jigging. The scoreboard stand is another reminder of the Islands long list of stadium “architectural masterpieces” spewed out by our Island brothers acclaimed and revered architects…
12 Mar 2010, 11:24 am
And another dodgy call by the ref :/
12 Mar 2010, 11:24 am
Lions pounding away with no reward…’Tahs too good for these cats..!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:28 am
Sounds like the lions are nowhere?? What is going on? I had money on the lions handycap…..never going to happen now…….bring in the Spears or Kings or something….but let this team out of their misery!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:28 am
The Lions are up against the most treacherous of all the happy whistlers, one Vinny Munro. I’ll rather have Vinny Jones referee a match than this palooka. Having said that, the Lions probably think it’s Christmas. They have been gifting tries like candy. Here comes the Southern Kings.
12 Mar 2010, 11:33 am
Lions are PATHETIC x2. Deserve to be dropped out of next years Super 15. Bring in the Kings for the love of South African Rugby!!!!!!!!!
Id rather watch them than this joke of a team. Even the flippin Sharks are better. Relegate this team as they are not serious about Rugby. Paying Carlos Spencer millions of Rands for WHAT?????? To talk back at the ref?????
The best thing the Cheetahs EVER did was dropping their agreement with the Lions.
PATHETIC, SPINELESS and EMBARESSING!!!!!
Earl Rose tackle on Palu was classic Rose.
PATHETIC, SPINELESS and EMBARESSING!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:34 am
Hey Tackles, did you wear a headband and Jihad T-shirt? Or was this a hush-hush affair?
Wellington – New Zealand police have condemned the actions of a Sunday newspaper which asked people masquerading as terrorists to smuggle fake bombs into two Super 14 rugby matches last weekend.
Spokesperson Jon Neilson on Friday said police were unlikely to charge the Sunday Star-Times newspaper over the stunt in which an undisclosed number of fake bombs were carried into matches at Hamilton and Christchurch, apparently to test security measures.
“We are aware of the situation and have been looking into it. But at this stage, it would not appear that there has been any offence committed,” he said.
Police Minister Judith Collins described the newspaper’s actions as “unbelievably stupid and irresponsible.”
“This stunt had the potential to result in games being called off and stadiums evacuated,” she said. “Common sense would tell you that running around a stadium dressed as a bomber has the potential to end very badly.”
The Sunday Star-Times declined comment.
12 Mar 2010, 11:35 am
Bod
is this a rugby site or a construction site ?
scrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrape
12 Mar 2010, 11:39 am
@katman: Strange bunch our island brothers.
The worst is that little idiot who poses as a “comedian” that pulls pranks on spectators and the like before footy games held at another of our Island architectural icons, the “Cake Tin”.
What a chop…. yet they all roll around in laughter at his decidedly unfunny and mundane antics
Strange bunch….
12 Mar 2010, 11:39 am
Hmmmmm…33-5…superbru still fairly intact
12 Mar 2010, 11:40 am
To think Wickus have signed with this bunch instead of bulls???? What is that all about??
12 Mar 2010, 11:42 am
@Black Panther: Who cares???
Nah, Tackles has not responded to my critism of that pathetic little hotch porch of a new stand at the Jade stadium that took three years to build. Look closely at all their stadiums and you will get a clear picture on how not to do it…
12 Mar 2010, 11:43 am
Lions management had the good wisdom to appoint the overrated bok backline coach **** Muir ahead of seasoned veteran coach Heyneke Meyer and now they reap the results of such quality decision making.
Like a bunch of fairy godmothers without their teeth in. Can’t put sufficient phases together to breach this Waratah defence. So if Muir is the bok backline coach where the hell do we go to from here?
12 Mar 2010, 11:43 am
@Hoops: You did pretty well with the muppits hey…fairly charged up the leaderboard
12 Mar 2010, 11:46 am
Wow, last time I saw a group of guy get pounded this hard it was the final scene of a German p0rno. At least in the p0rno they had smiles on their faces and looked up for it.
12 Mar 2010, 11:46 am
The lions were not wikus’ first choice..
Come to think of it I can’t see them being anyone’s first choice ..
12 Mar 2010, 11:47 am
So how is the neck crunching Heinke VD Merwe doing??
Is he scrumming the chops of these sheep s*&%$rs??? Or is he the sheep being made to take it???
Is litle robinson giving him a lesson or what is the take on scrum time???
12 Mar 2010, 11:48 am
@Richie_7:
I remember a Super rugby final in 2009 which was pretty similar…
12 Mar 2010, 11:49 am
No score yet in the second half.
Did the Tah’s came back from the dressing room?
12 Mar 2010, 11:49 am
i thought canned hunting had been banned?
12 Mar 2010, 11:50 am
@PissAnt: Good thing I live in Pretoria and could claim a win then, aye?
12 Mar 2010, 11:50 am
@Storm outta hell:
Yes had good one last week….but the sader game today I made a big hash of it….I wanted to change the lion vs Tahs to 17 points and accidently made it sader by 17….that is going to cost me!
12 Mar 2010, 11:50 am
@Hoops: Robinson keeps putting his hand on the ground(cheating)but so far the ref has turned a blind eye to it…you should bet on how many tackles ER falls off…I’ve lost count..
12 Mar 2010, 11:52 am
@Richie_7: guys? tell me you mean girls…
12 Mar 2010, 11:52 am
Ritchie
Generally it is not a good idea to look up at anything in a german skin flick..
You are liable to get something in your eye..
12 Mar 2010, 11:52 am
@Richie_7:
My concern then would be how you would get your hands on German porno’s in PTA if you can see a good #$&@!# at Loftus every weekend?
12 Mar 2010, 11:54 am
@Spinnekop: nice one charlotte!! lol
12 Mar 2010, 11:54 am
@gunther:
12 Mar 2010, 11:55 am
Bod
firstly a little tip – when embarking on ‘critism’, perhaps keep your dicktionary close by.
Secondly, perhaps a tour of any destination is recommended before you take up that job of tour guide. I’ve been to most Test arenas of the World and Ive yet to, er, crit er size ones I haven’t sat in. And Lancaster Park is superb and hasn’t been built by rugbys version of a Nike sweat shop either. Even Stade de France – magnificent on the approach, shite view inside, no match clock etc – is no masterpiece.
12 Mar 2010, 11:55 am
@gunther: You seem rather well informed on this topic…
12 Mar 2010, 11:55 am
getting ugly now, makes those german skin fliks look like disney
12 Mar 2010, 11:56 am
@PissAnt: But wouldn’t that constitute *** p0rn?
12 Mar 2010, 11:56 am
Rose pops it out the side and Mitchell gets a hat-trick….Muir turns green..
12 Mar 2010, 11:56 am
@Storm outta hell:
Robinson is overrated….thought he did something to get away at scrum time!!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:58 am
Lions are getting shafted in Sydney. ‘tahs on fire!
12 Mar 2010, 11:59 am
THe lions are appalling!!!
12 Mar 2010, 11:59 am
@Richie_7:
I refer you to your post at 11:46:
Wow, last time I saw a group of guy get pounded this hard
Looks like you are into it!
12 Mar 2010, 12:00 pm
just like he was with the Sharks this director of GL Rugby is totally out his depth. All the high hopes for this Lions franchise when Muir took over. Look at them now, no better than they were under Loffie. The liabilities in this team are Spencer and Rose, get them out if you seriously hope to stand a chance going anywhere from here.
12 Mar 2010, 12:00 pm
Bod
I can’t help it if the camera loves me.,
12 Mar 2010, 12:00 pm
Mitchell has 4…
12 Mar 2010, 12:00 pm
@Black Panther: BOD forgets that at most “island” stadiums as he calls them, one has a good chance of getting home safely, or in fact seeing the sun rise the next morning…
12 Mar 2010, 12:01 pm
4 for Mitchell…Lions a walking,living,breathing bonus point..!
12 Mar 2010, 12:02 pm
Bring it on Cheeky Watson and make sure you sign Alan Solomons as your head coach.
12 Mar 2010, 12:02 pm
Lions should pack up and come back to SA!!!
Don’t bother going to the saders…just hand them the 5 points and come rest so that you ca win some games at home and help the other Saaf teams to get a chance at home semi!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:02 pm
@poppa69: Agreed…Coca cola park is muggsville..!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:03 pm
Good gracious man SWAK SWAK SWAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is the stuff the Lions had against the Chiefs?????
12 Mar 2010, 12:03 pm
Lions playing for their pride
12 Mar 2010, 12:04 pm
@Black Panther: Semantics dont really bother me as much as they seem to rile you and if thats the best retort you have available…. well I’ll take it on the chin then.
Lesson 1 on a **** stadium design…. You do not have to visit or sit in a stadium to understand its lack of planning and architectural foresight.
Lesson 1 on life…. Never assume on the life of someone you dont know, especially on their travel experiences
Final lesson on New Zealand stadia…. nah, lets rather leave it there
12 Mar 2010, 12:05 pm
didnt expect this from the Lions, thought they would have been much more competitive…
12 Mar 2010, 12:05 pm
Make their circles bigger . . . . . . and the crusaders next weekend . . .EINA !
12 Mar 2010, 12:07 pm
Wtf is happening here ?
12 Mar 2010, 12:07 pm
@SamM:
HaHa that should be fun.
12 Mar 2010, 12:09 pm
Was there not a move to outlaw ‘canned Lion hunts?’.
12 Mar 2010, 12:09 pm
@poppa69: All ways got home safely after every game I’ve attended…
I am truly blessed with an African sunrise every morning as well…
12 Mar 2010, 12:09 pm
cmon lions, 26 more points in the last ten minutes for my superbru please
12 Mar 2010, 12:09 pm
@Bod: just dont go to the night games huh?
12 Mar 2010, 12:11 pm
Poppa
rather bizarre to make the case for Lancaster Park as a ‘Polynesian’ stadium – it’s clear he’s not only entered the gates but never been to the Sth Island either. In fact, Im sure the entire Mainland’esian population could be found at my (Otago) Varsity A rivals at Ravensbourne.
Personally, I was fortunate to visit the hallowed Canty surface twice within 48hrs here, sitting in both stands, and it’s absolutely superb. And Dunedins indoor stadium will be ready for the RWC. Not bad for a country with less people than greater-Capetown.
12 Mar 2010, 12:11 pm
Are the Waratahs playing good attacking rugby or are they scoring soft tries ?
12 Mar 2010, 12:11 pm
Poppa
Have you visited our fair country?
12 Mar 2010, 12:14 pm
@Eminem: Pretty soft hey…but this win is sure gonna rejuvenate ‘em…Lions looking better with Vermaak on the park..!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:15 pm
eminem…any try against the lions team is soft!
12 Mar 2010, 12:16 pm
Bod
Lesson 1 on blogging – always ensure yr lessons never contradict each other.
12 Mar 2010, 12:17 pm
Turner out under the Touchie’s nose…not called and goes on to score a try ;(
12 Mar 2010, 12:17 pm
@poppa69: Nah, night games are my favourite.
Fantastic stadia, babes of note, the waft of braai’s across the field, the African night sky and the fantastic pubs after the game. (The tricky part being able to avoid places frequented by our ANZAR brothers and players, which tend to be a bit violent)
12 Mar 2010, 12:18 pm
how’s these linesmen. No. 14 so far out its blatant home town decisions all over again.
12 Mar 2010, 12:19 pm
This game is disgusting can it end now?
12 Mar 2010, 12:19 pm
Holmes gets a double under the Horns..!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:19 pm
I just want to say thanks againt to the lions union for chosing **** instead of HM.
Truly inspiring.
As a lions suppoerter I have so much to look forward too.
%$$@#@ a-holes
12 Mar 2010, 12:20 pm
cricket score rugby again.
Lions a serious debilitated team on the ropes. Can’t take anything away from their die hard attitude but Muir better catch a serious wake up. This franchise has hardly improved since 2009- only progress is further South.
12 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm
@PissAnt: Err, the p0rno had women in it. You started going off about Loftus
12 Mar 2010, 12:22 pm
@Black Panther: Lesson 2 on blogging… Dont engage with those who dont understand
Lesson 3 on blogging…. Dont take it too seriously, as it takes the fun out of it
12 Mar 2010, 12:23 pm
@Bod: can’t comment on any of your other points, but no doubt that the best lookers are in sa. (just judging by what we see on tv)
12 Mar 2010, 12:23 pm
Another Super 14 cheat! his time the touch judge. I hope he also walks the plank like that Marks specimen and our own unprofessional Pro.
12 Mar 2010, 12:24 pm
‘Tahs by 54…who’d have said..?
12 Mar 2010, 12:25 pm
…and we wanted another team in the Super 15.
12 Mar 2010, 12:25 pm
we are red, we are white, we are dynamite!
Not quite
We are red, we are white, we are *****!!!!!
Relegate the lions & their bungling management that can’t even write let alone understand the words in the contracts the sign!!! Bring on the KINGS!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:25 pm
‘Tahs by 61…’nuff said..!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
Where are the Ozzie bloggers?
12 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
what’s the record for the most points conceded by a team in one super rugby season?
12 Mar 2010, 12:26 pm
@Bod:
yep, never trust them ANZACs mate, theyre known to conspire against other nations bwahahaha
12 Mar 2010, 12:27 pm
combine the cheetahs and the lions: end The Horror
12 Mar 2010, 12:27 pm
@Pearl Rose: they should change their colours to brown.
can’t believe they get paid (handsomely) to dish up this **** week after week.
12 Mar 2010, 12:28 pm
also ban the Stormers from playing rugby forever.
12 Mar 2010, 12:29 pm
@ 145 FantasticBarnSmell: Why?
12 Mar 2010, 12:29 pm
Bumbling Baywatch says..”The Lions are gonna bounce back..!”.. watch this space
12 Mar 2010, 12:29 pm
soft tries every last one of the 8 or 9 scored tonight.
GL lions in disarray. Pity Winning Ways didn’t have the balls to stick with the program we would have had first hand witness just how inept the orchestrator of such bullshit baffles brains technicality is.
So Muir got the gig and it gets from bad to worse. Quite where he hides his head next who knows, just hope someone has the good sense to fire him out the bok backline coaching portfolio before he does any further damage to what he’s done already.
12 Mar 2010, 12:30 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell: Spoken like a true Lions supporter
12 Mar 2010, 12:30 pm
@oscarthedawg: because they’re making the Sharks look bad
12 Mar 2010, 12:30 pm
@the peanut gallery:
500, by the Bulls in their nightmare 2002 season.
12 Mar 2010, 12:31 pm
%$#@ disgusting
thanx ****!!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:31 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell: Jealousy makes one nasty
12 Mar 2010, 12:32 pm
Even the heading is lame…tah’s tame muir’s lions. The journo has lost all his passion for writing watching this game
12 Mar 2010, 12:32 pm
so sorry lions
12 Mar 2010, 12:32 pm
Things looked promising for a while earlier in the season. This is just totally unacceptable. What a joke.
12 Mar 2010, 12:33 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck: Torture not tame
12 Mar 2010, 12:33 pm
@PissAnt:
Lions currently sitting on 228 points conceded in 5 games.
12 Mar 2010, 12:33 pm
How about those griquas hey pearly?
12 Mar 2010, 12:34 pm
@Eminem: Understatement of the year.
12 Mar 2010, 12:34 pm
Try 73 – 12!!!!!!
DISGRACE, PATHETIC!!!!!!!!
Bring the Kings into next years Super 15 and DROP THIS USELESS TEAM FFS!!!!!!!
Disgrace to South African Rugby!!!!!!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm
Ah. Quite understandable then.
12 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm
@Bill Reyts: it was tame for a second….then he had a re-think after he read my post!
12 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm
@poppa69: Its Friday and I am all semantic(ed) out…
Now, back to those stadia….
12 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm
Awesome performance from Waratahs, they could be the best team in the tourney. Robbed of momentum by a hometown ref in Pretoria, they look a solid outside bet for the title. Visitors to Sydney, beware !
12 Mar 2010, 12:36 pm
i know the Sharks are garbage at the moment, but i reckon we should combine the Lions and Cheetahs and then bring in the Spears or whatever it’s being called now. they seriously couldn’t do any worse than what the Lions have done today. okay fine the Stormers can also stay.
12 Mar 2010, 12:37 pm
Why is Earl Rose still getting game time? Is DM hoping he will break something and rule him out of action for the year? There is a flaw in that plan, Earl avoids contact in games. Maybe DM should shift focus to the practice sessions to get rid of him, or maybe tamper with his brakes.
12 Mar 2010, 12:37 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck: Ok.
12 Mar 2010, 12:38 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell: Sharks and Spears should be combined as well.
12 Mar 2010, 12:38 pm
@PissAnt: that was in 11 games. 45.5 per game.
12 Mar 2010, 12:38 pm
Naas is right, we must fire some players
12 Mar 2010, 12:38 pm
Haha, did anyone see Turner’s first try? His whole foot covered the touchline, and the convict touch judge’s eyes saw it, yet he ignored it, allowing them to score. It’s not bad reffing, its just cheating.
A fine piece of anzac spirit on display, 2 weeks in a row now.
Drop the touch judge… get rid of him, flush him down the toilet like they did Paul Marks.
12 Mar 2010, 12:39 pm
Naas says fire the players…I’d start with the Pearl..!
12 Mar 2010, 12:39 pm
@PissAnt: pretty much the same average then.
12 Mar 2010, 12:39 pm
Did anyone really expect anything less from a team that changes 13 in two weeks?
12 Mar 2010, 12:40 pm
@Black Panther:
Shut up, the Bulls had their way with them fair and square, as did the Stormers.
12 Mar 2010, 12:40 pm
@the peanut gallery:
Yes it is…
12 Mar 2010, 12:41 pm
@Bill Reyts: no, what you said is wrong.
12 Mar 2010, 12:41 pm
@Bill Reyts: we’re having a bad season, just like the Stormers and Bulls have had before. the Lions and Cheetahs always have bad seasons.
12 Mar 2010, 12:41 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell: The Speared Sharks sounds good!
12 Mar 2010, 12:42 pm
@Kobus Kitty: Ozzie commentators say it has no relevance to the match…but it sure has relevance to points difference..?
12 Mar 2010, 12:43 pm
@gunther: the griquas have johnson, olivier, pretorius, viljoen, bjorn basson, raubenheimer in the cheetahs team, they are playing super rugby already, why should we get a franchise of our own?
12 Mar 2010, 12:43 pm
At least I had Barnes in my fantasy rugby team! Did he make any line breaks and assists in this game? I am at work.
12 Mar 2010, 12:43 pm
Black panther
I think you are getting ahead of yourself
This team almost and should have lost to the sharks last week..
12 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm
@Kobus Kitty: hope you are so open eyed with the 4 refs for the Bulls game this weekend, also, why would you be worried about the Lions, didnt you jump ship a loooong time ago? solid supporter that you are..
12 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm
@Bill Reyts: ..or King Sharks
12 Mar 2010, 12:44 pm
@Black Panther: To me the ref in Cape Town gave them an even worser deal…
12 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm
i walked past a TV and saw that flank hit the “earl rose gap”
the guy had the ball, looked up saw it was earl on defence, and just sped up straight into him. it was almost painful to watch. almost.
the commentators were joking about the sidestep.
its embarrassing i tell you. feel sorry for the lions fans.
12 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell: Huh? When did the Stormers have a good season in the last 2 decades?
At least the Cats reached the semis twice, and the Lions won it once.
Stormers? What a joke. Not even a decent Currie Cup team for the last decade.
12 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm
@Kobus Kitty: look yourself in the mirror and admit that they were completely awefull…even if the lions had the ref and touch judges in their pocket they still could not have pulled a win from this game. eish….stop blaming the ref already
12 Mar 2010, 12:48 pm
Top of the log gonna get pretty crowded after this weekends rugby…
12 Mar 2010, 12:49 pm
@Bouts: Your point?
12 Mar 2010, 12:49 pm
Pearly
That’s great to see you getting behind the cheetahs..
How did your doppelgänger go today?
12 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
Well …
Can only get better from this.
12 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Yes.
The convicts cheat because they’ve been instructed by O’Neill to let play go on if a try is on offer. Australians have very short attention spans so there have to be tries scored every couple of minutes to keep them entertained.
They have to win to make any profit. Their crowds are always pathetic. I mean, look at the Loftus crowd and compare it to any other ANZAC teams….
12 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
@Bouts: Hmmmm…very sour words…down kitty…!
12 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm
@Bouts: only when the super 14 was the super 2 lol……then they managed those amazing feats…but those days are looooooooooooooooooong gone. another 10 more years of misery for you lions fans……some of you desrve it more than others haha
12 Mar 2010, 12:51 pm
@Kobus Kitty: It’s the most logical explanation I’ve heard so far
12 Mar 2010, 12:51 pm
I feel particularly bad for Todd Clever and Spencer for some reason.
12 Mar 2010, 12:52 pm
@Martin:
Don’t mention the team with the most last places…
12 Mar 2010, 12:54 pm
@Bouts: in 2008 they were unluck to miss out on a semi spot and they doing pretty well so far this year, so you can’t really say that they’ve totally sucked. please don’t make me defend the Stormers aggghh
12 Mar 2010, 12:55 pm
@Bouts
The Stormers only just missed out on a semi-final place two years ago. They reached the semis four or five years ago, apart from 1999. We also missed out on the semis on two other occassions by just a couple of points.
We, the Stormers, are due another run into the semis. We don’t have the record of the Sharks or the Bulls but we hold a superior record to the Cheetahs and the Lions by far.
HOWEVER, people on this site must remember that Muir is having to build up from scratch. Remember the beatings which Meyer took as Bulls coach at first? Hell, he was fired as Bulls coach before returning. The Lions need to stick with Muir.
12 Mar 2010, 12:55 pm
one thing the stormers are definitely in the lead with, is “this year is our year” predictions.
12 Mar 2010, 12:56 pm
Loffe Loffe, wherefore art thou Loffe.
12 Mar 2010, 12:57 pm
@Dawn:
They have the Crusaders next week…
12 Mar 2010, 12:57 pm
@roobarb2: Hell, we have had to be optimistic to get over our disappointment at all those semi-final places which we’ve narrowly missed out on over the years.
12 Mar 2010, 12:57 pm
And instead of causing an upset aginst the saders or any other ozzy/kiwi they,ll probably upset a saffa team like the stormers and stop them from making the semi,s!!!
LIONS WTF
12 Mar 2010, 12:58 pm
Hopeless, nothing more to add.
12 Mar 2010, 12:58 pm
**** Muir must be regretting taking this Lions job! And Cheeky Watson must be smilling! The Kings could not have done worse!
12 Mar 2010, 12:58 pm
@Bod:
“worser” ??????????????????????????
12 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm
@Michael: Yeah…stick with ****…but stop throwing the ball around…go back to basics.. and don’t expect miracles overnight..!
12 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm
@Martin:
Calm down Martin, don’t spill your kak out of your mouth now.
I know the Lions are a toilet paper team, I was just stating an incident where the Anzac touch judge clearly saw Turner’s foot out yet allowed play to go on, which seconds later resulted in a Waratah’s try.
12 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm
@BULLETHEAD Jnr:
Agreed.
12 Mar 2010, 13:03 pm
@Dawn: Yeah…they tend to save their best for the local derbies,and their worst for when we really need them to front up
12 Mar 2010, 13:04 pm
The Ork must really be lovin’ Vinny :love:
12 Mar 2010, 13:04 pm
the thing is, how does Muir build a house with broken bricks?
if he is going to build a strong house, let him get rid of the sticks and straw. (notice the 3 little pigs reference there?)
he is making bad selections, Spencer does not belong in that team. Francis is the real deal, he is still a baby in terms of age and experience, but he is a level, calm type of player, never looks rushed or panicked. he is like a JP Pietersen (when JP is having a good day). Muir should play francis consistently for a few weeks, let him grow in confidence. That boy has springbok potential. and what the lions need is consistency, not extravagant all or nothing lunacy.
Chavanga also looked ok in a losing cause, the little bit i saw. not as easy to bring down anymore, less of a one trick pony. i may have to eat my words about him. i hope he just gets better and better. he will be a real asset to that team.
12 Mar 2010, 13:06 pm
“stick with ****”
o rilly?
12 Mar 2010, 13:06 pm
Oh my, poor Lions, I actually thought this game might be the surprise of the week..well it was, but for the wrong reason. Must be awful for them having to play Crusaders next week. Very hard for them to keep spirits up…
12 Mar 2010, 13:06 pm
Guys, How good are the Bulls then? They overpowered this Tahs team without getting out of third gear.
12 Mar 2010, 13:08 pm
Oh boy!….these lions make it extremely difficult for us loyal supporters (all 6 of us)…its one thing to lose when you tackle yourself into the ground and show some guts but this is a joke.Earl Rose has to be the worst defender in the history of super rugby……he makes Roger smith look solid.
Sad thing is that he is now an experienced camapigner and should be setting an example for the new blood in the team!
12 Mar 2010, 13:08 pm
Pathetic Lions!
12 Mar 2010, 13:09 pm
@catleya: the Bulls are good, granted, but lets not forget the altitude advantage hey… thats the ANZACs version of “travel disadvantage”
12 Mar 2010, 13:09 pm
@roobarb2: Agreed…Burton had a blinder…hard to standout when all around is crumbling…ER must go…for every 1 thing he does right he makes 10 fcukups…send him somewhere where he can cool his heels for a while..maybe Kings rugby.
12 Mar 2010, 13:09 pm
To The Lions Faithfull,
My heartfelt sympathy.
To those that kick them while they are down.
Your day will come.
Redlion, katmandu and Cab will get you square in the balls.
12 Mar 2010, 13:10 pm
I hope!
12 Mar 2010, 13:11 pm
Tahs were traveling, makes a difference playing at home. Bulls still damn good, all teams will battle against them.
12 Mar 2010, 13:12 pm
@cane: True words.
12 Mar 2010, 13:12 pm
@cane:
I pray.
12 Mar 2010, 13:13 pm
These guys got butchered. Next week the Crusaders. Just doesn’t get any easier.
12 Mar 2010, 13:13 pm
@poppa69: The Highveld is certainly an advantage,all teams gonna battle at Roftus in the last quarter…thankfully we play da Bulls at Newlands…I’m not too worried,we almost upset ‘em in Currie Cup
12 Mar 2010, 13:15 pm
Swaer Willem as jy die lees, jy is al vir 46 jaar n Lions ondersteuner. dit wys deursettings en geloof in jou span se vemoeë as jou span maar net jou kon onder steun soos jy hulle doen. Moet net nie nou opgee nie ons was ook daar vir n paar jaar an almal het ons lekker geboelie en afgebreek, maar ons het op gestaan en ek glo julle sal saam met **** opstaan.
to all other SA ” Gee GAS”
12 Mar 2010, 13:15 pm
@catleya: too much hype about these blue bulls…
12 Mar 2010, 13:15 pm
@Kobus Kitty: hahaha lol….i understand your point but at the end of the day would it have made any difference…..only in my fantasy league team…hehe..as i have turner down.
12 Mar 2010, 13:17 pm
Weakest back 3 in the history of the game.
@fantasticbarnsmell:
Cheetahs having a bad year? That’s just sour grapes.
12 Mar 2010, 13:17 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Well i would be verry worried to play the Bulls does not matter where they play
12 Mar 2010, 13:18 pm
Transie
Lmfao
12 Mar 2010, 13:18 pm
@vasteses:
To quote Black Pather……………………………………”thank you C3PO”.
12 Mar 2010, 13:19 pm
@Storm outta hell:
A note of caution:
The Stormers fanclub are always quick to refer to the 1 point margin in the Currie Cup semifinal of last year.
What you fail to take into account, is that the Boks had only returned to the provincial teams the week before, for the last round of poolgames.
Now, for the Stormers, this meant that they could mostly stick to their core team which had played together for the entire Currie Cup up to that point.
For the Bulls, this meant that their entire Currie Cup campaign was disrupted, as most of the key players had to change. If you think the Blue machine was operating at its peak after just 1 week together, you are sadly mistaken.
The team facing you in the last round of the S14 this year will be in a different league to the disrupted one full of tired, returing Boks that faced you in the Currie Cup semifinal last year.
But good luck with managing your expectations and all. I know how good you guys are with that…
12 Mar 2010, 13:20 pm
@Martin: It makes for points difference on the log…not fair on other teams…could be the difference between a semi or not..!
12 Mar 2010, 13:20 pm
willem alberts & ludik must be thinking “oh well it’s k@k here at the sharks but it sure as hell is better than being at the lions”
12 Mar 2010, 13:21 pm
@Die_Valk: if you consider 9th om the log as a good season then my point is already proved.
12 Mar 2010, 13:21 pm
@Storm outta hell: explains Bulls supporters though, does funny things lack of oxygen to the brain
Stormers/Bulls will be a mighty clash thats for sure…
12 Mar 2010, 13:21 pm
oops, “on the log” i mean
12 Mar 2010, 13:21 pm
Can some one please tell me what the X- factor is that Pdivvy and **** sees in Earl Rose, Would it be that they do not know wheter he is going to f…up 10 or 20 times, he must be the worst player in the S14.
12 Mar 2010, 13:23 pm
@Tacitus: Blah,blah blue..yor arrogance knows no bounds,I for one certainly don’t think the Bully boys look so unbeatable at sea level..time will tell,I look forward to it..!
12 Mar 2010, 13:25 pm
@Transformation:
12 Mar 2010, 13:25 pm
This game was trash…the Tahs chose to field 14 players.
12 Mar 2010, 13:27 pm
@Tacitus: Gonna be real interesting to see if the Bulls can hold out a depleted Highlander side for the full 80 tomorrow…
12 Mar 2010, 13:27 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Sigh. You had your chance to save face. Instead, you’ve decided to go the other route and trumpet your bravado for all to see.
I cannot help you anymore. You will now have to face the consequences of your ignorance square on.
12 Mar 2010, 13:29 pm
@gunther:
12 Mar 2010, 13:30 pm
@Tacitus:
Who’s talking about the Stormers?
This is the Lions thread.
12 Mar 2010, 13:30 pm
@Tacitus: Save face..??..eat **** dude…it’s ppl like u that make us normal ppl hate the Bulls supporters so…the players not so bad,Victor pretty humble most times…he probably hates such expectant supporters as well imo
12 Mar 2010, 13:32 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Tacitus is in permanent gloat mode.
12 Mar 2010, 13:33 pm
to be fair to ER today, that big australian meatmissile was travelling at a fair pace. and he did try manfully. but physics is a cruel heartless *****.
but fair cop on his record, he has flashes of brilliance, and if your team is winning more than losing you can afford such extravagances. but the lions are not in a position to keep paying for the 10 stuff-ups he is making per game vs the one good thing.
and spencer is the ultimate example of that type of player.
slap chips was also a loose cannon but his hit/miss ratio was better, and he played in a good WP team that could cover for his brainfarts.
12 Mar 2010, 13:35 pm
@roobarb2:
Earl should have weekly tests for cocaine.
12 Mar 2010, 13:35 pm
@Tacitus: you’re such a blog bully!
12 Mar 2010, 13:35 pm
Quiet on the oil front today
Can actually blog a bit.
12 Mar 2010, 13:36 pm
@vasteses: Ek dink hierdie **** het meer as viagra nodig voordat hy weer gaan opstaan! Hy is nou al pap vir langer as 10 jaar!
12 Mar 2010, 13:36 pm
@Dawn:
253: Indeed.
12 Mar 2010, 13:38 pm
lucky for me I was at work and could not see the slaughter.
12 Mar 2010, 13:38 pm
Storm outta hell. so by your logic, if a woman driver does something silly in traffic and it annoys you, its ok for you to hate all women?
if you are going to be prejudiced against an entire group of people because of the actions of one or two, at least have the balls not to blame someone else for it.
12 Mar 2010, 13:38 pm
@Dawn:
i am absulutely clueless why the Lions dont just play % rugby, they where truely awfull, surely **** must know better and yes they are rebuilding ( thats been happening for the last 10 years). What is Sarfu doing about this even NZ and Aus worst teams are not as bad, As as Saffa i am very disapointed and ashamed at the moment, it is not nice to see any SA team get hammerd like that.
12 Mar 2010, 13:40 pm
@Dawn: hehehe dawn, he should rather have weekly muscle tests.
there is more meat on a butcher’s pencil than on our Earl.
he has calves like a racehorse.
12 Mar 2010, 13:42 pm
@roobarb2:
calves what calves.
12 Mar 2010, 13:42 pm
@vasteses:
Ja, look, **** Muir is a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, enclosed in an enigma…You get my drift.
The guy has 10 odd years of coaching behind him which has proved that his “expansive game” doesn’t produce results.
Why does he not listen to his brain, which is urgently shouting at him all the time to get a clue?
12 Mar 2010, 13:43 pm
@vasteses:
Hy kannie kla oor kuite nie, want hy het nie!
12 Mar 2010, 13:46 pm
@Horing:
ek dink nie die verloor moet voor **** se deur gelê word nie, alhoewel hy die ” game plan” roep moet dit nog uitgevoer word. en verdediging asook hantering ” comitment ” lê by die spelers.
12 Mar 2010, 13:46 pm
Stormer from hell
Wind your neck in there pal..
12 Mar 2010, 13:48 pm
Earl Rose has the calves of a racehorse people!!
(go look a photo of a horse)
12 Mar 2010, 13:53 pm
@Tacitus:
Die dag toe die Lions vir die Rose boeties koop, het vir Swaer Willem gesê nou het julle K@k droog gemaak, want net Pieter- Helium- divvy, en sy bok afrigter gabbas dink hy kan rugby speel sonner kuite. Die Lions club rugby strek van vd bijl park tot Delmas ek dink. daar moet n beter heelagter wees.
12 Mar 2010, 13:55 pm
@Dawn: talk about “permanent gloat mode”…it’s good to see him in his element, telling all these other south african the seek success vicariously through his beloved blue bulls where to get off. I’m sure storm into hell has no illusions about what Tac thinks about his team.
Then you get all the morosed sharks fans doing cartwheels just because the blue bulls are doing well
, crazy i tell you…
12 Mar 2010, 13:56 pm
O ja en Swaer Willem het saam gestem, en hy kennie Leeus.
12 Mar 2010, 13:58 pm
ek’s honger!
Cheers.
12 Mar 2010, 13:59 pm
@vasteses:
hell man die Heelagter van my seun se 0/15 span van Outeniqua is beter
12 Mar 2010, 14:04 pm
@Tacitus: I have said time and again how cr*p **** is and it is being proven week in week out for all to see!
Our vaunted Bok front row is getting its arse handed to it week in week out as well. Any comparisons people ?
F*ck me but how bad does it get before this guy is sacked ? How the hell did **** get the job over HM … based on what ??
I saw a part of the Lions game in the gym at lunch and it go me so angry i actually shifted some serious iron. So thanks ****, the tahs must be saying the same thing you useless twat.
ps I am not even a Lions supporter.
12 Mar 2010, 14:10 pm
What is a man in my position supposed to do? Like a boxer that just won’t go down, I have to keep on coming out of that corner only to be beaten to a pulp. Round after round after round. And this fight could carry on forever. Maybe it would be better if someone – Hoskins, Cheeky, IRB, SANZAR, God, Zuma… anyone – decided on our fate and put us out of our misery.
Having said that, I pity the Griffons, Valke and Bulldogs next year. My team will have a lot of anger and disappointment to deal with.
12 Mar 2010, 14:11 pm
@bananas: dude, calm down, it’s only super14…if it was the Boks i’d understand…the lions have been this k@k for year now really…no need to see red…
12 Mar 2010, 14:13 pm
Very Dissappointed with this result.
I have two messages for Earl the Pearl and the rest of the Lions……..
“Achievement seems to be connected with action.Successful men and women keep moving.They make mistakes, but they don’t quit.” Conrad Hilton
“Champions aren’t made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill.”
Muhammad Ali
Go you good things! This wheel will turn…..just hang in there.
12 Mar 2010, 14:14 pm
for years…
12 Mar 2010, 14:17 pm
Katman
What other option is open to you?
Clearly you can’t start supporting the stormers..
Hurricanes maybe?
12 Mar 2010, 14:18 pm
@Jozi: hola sbali, zithini?
Hayi mfethu, zimb’ indaba daar kulama-lions yessus…do those guys even train eintlik?
Hang in the ntanga…the lions have just been “jub jub-ed” by the Tahs
12 Mar 2010, 14:20 pm
@Transformation: That’s not funny.
12 Mar 2010, 14:20 pm
@Transformation: #279 yeah tell me about it. Look there isn’t much to hold onto except the hope that one day things will get better and I think that day is very close.
12 Mar 2010, 14:20 pm
Transie
Lmao
Has jub jub received police protection?
Apparently there are a few locals who would like to get their hands on him..
12 Mar 2010, 14:21 pm
@gunther: What, and join “certain sectors” of the Western Cape community? You must be smoking Tik.
12 Mar 2010, 14:22 pm
@Transformation: I totally support the Bulls/Boks…especially when they’re doing well..it’s the Blinkered,Bloubal Buffoon supporters that are a bitter pill to swallow…
12 Mar 2010, 14:23 pm
That was utterly shameful. Another 70 points past the Lions. Its time to close shop sorry to say. Getting embarrassing how at least one Saffer team remains as a the whipping boys of the S14. Not one really kak Aus team this year and out of the Kiwis, only the Highlanders are the weakest and even they are capable of hitting the straps now and then.
Its time to admit that the standard of Lions rugby is way below S14 level. Personally I think there should be only 4 SA teams which means there would be a larger player base for each of those unions and they can focus on building up their teams to be as strong as possible. At the end of the day competitive SA teams ulitmately benefits the Boks. There is no coincidence that the ABs excel when their provincial teams are on form. Of the two years SA won the S14 the Boks had a strong showing. Its about time Saru got the provincial coaches to tow the line a bit more and contribute to strengthening the Boks and by that I’m referring player development and not playing the Boks into the ground. A good example is clueless Plumtree who insists on playing Odwa all the time rather than giving game time to Movo or Vulindlu who are the future. Won’t be long before they’re packing up along with Pienaar, Kockett and the Du Plessis thugs. Things just can’t carry on like this.
12 Mar 2010, 14:24 pm
@Transformation: #281 Hola Ngwenya ngwenya…..I have faith my man……we took a massive one in the naught today but this is all part of the learning curve.
The okes are fit it’s just the experience and that famous saffa phrase “structure” that is lacking. It looks like the wooden spoon beckons yet again but watch this team grow, just you watch.
12 Mar 2010, 14:25 pm
@vasteses: Ek stem saam, mens kan nie al die skuld op **** Muir pak nie.
Ek dink hy het gehoop hy kan die Leeus omkeer soos wat hy met die Sharks gedoen het. Maar ek dink sy taak is bietjie moeiliker as wat hy verwag het. Kanse is goed die dag as hy loop by die Leeus dat sy reputasie slegter gaan wees as toe hy daar begin het.
12 Mar 2010, 14:26 pm
@bananas: Boet it can’t get any worse than Plumtree, officially the worst S14 coach in recent years. At least Muir got us to the S14 final.
12 Mar 2010, 14:27 pm
Katman
I only smoke the Transkei
And besides new Zealand jerseys give me a rash, it must be something in the fabric..
12 Mar 2010, 14:28 pm
Lions are dogsh*t.period
Muir should find a settled 15 at present and stick to it.And secondly in off season look to strengthen squad especially at lock,hooker,outside centre.
Also need to invest in a slim modern-day fitting kit.Whoever designs that piece of sh*t they wear yr after yr needs to be fired.Makes them look even more unproffessional and an extension of the Brakpan XV.Bloody ridiculous.
Players available throughout SA:
Hooker:
Hanyani Shimange
Deon Fourie
Bandise Maku
Frankie Horne
Rallapelle
Lock:
Danie Rossouw(emergence of Flip vd Merwe at Bulls)
W.Steenkamp(esp with J.Kruger coming back)
Francois vd Merwe
Flanks:
Ashley Johnson
Pieter Myburgh
Pieter Louw
Scrummies:
Sarel Pretorius
Charl Mcleod
Centres:
Juan de Jongh(esp with return of DeVilliers)
Waylon Murray
Wings:
Trompie Nontshinga
Bjorn Basson
Lions possible XV if they buy well and select from within smartly.Whilst changing administration
1.Heinke
2.Rallapele
3.Buys
4.Danie Rossouw
5.W.Steenkamp
6.van Deventer
7.Clever
8.Johnson
9.Vermaak
10.Francis/Rose
11.Basson
12.Walter Venter
13.Juan de Jongh
14.Chavanga
15.Hollenbach
12 Mar 2010, 14:31 pm
@Transformation:
“Hang in the ntanga”
Where’s the ntanga?
12 Mar 2010, 14:33 pm
@Dawn: Hehehehe….chill Dawnie
It’s not the Tanga that Trans is talking about….
“Ntanga” means chap.
12 Mar 2010, 14:34 pm
are the Sharks, Lions, Waratahs and Bulls the only sides to have conceded 70 points in a game?
12 Mar 2010, 14:35 pm
Highlanders have also conceded 70
12 Mar 2010, 14:36 pm
@Jozi:
OK so it should be “Hang in THERE ntanga!”
12 Mar 2010, 14:36 pm
Hayi. Kude e-Bakuba, akuyiwanga mntu.
12 Mar 2010, 14:37 pm
The Cheetahs are the only SA side not to have conceded more than 70 points in a game
12 Mar 2010, 14:39 pm
No NZ side has conceded more than 70 points
12 Mar 2010, 14:41 pm
I am sorry, but this, was bloody awfull!!!
As a Lions supporter I will boycott this team and stay away from Ellis Park until the start winning games or at least play better.
What the hell is **** teaching them? And wtf…I still can’t see the plan with Spencer…the biggest waste of Rands EVER!!!!
This is a bloody joke…I am sure it is. I think I am sleeping…must be….must be a bad dream. Oh NO…it aint!!!!
I am going to swap teams…it’s official, I AM A BULLS SUPPORTER NOW, can’t cheer for that bloody bunch of overpaid losers.
It’s bloody pathetic. At least with the Bulls I know where they are going, when Meyer said he was building, he meant it, and they did.
12 Mar 2010, 14:42 pm
@Dawn: #297 Yes.
@WP Till I Die: #298 Kuzolunga mfowethu.
12 Mar 2010, 14:43 pm
@gunther:ja i think he is under police custody…eish, i heard from a friend yesterday that a motorist in soweto was harassed & beeaten up, all because he was driving a mini cooper *sight*
@katman: i wasn’t trying to be funny dude, it’s new slang, crude but it’s slang…
12 Mar 2010, 14:43 pm
Laurie Mains has tried, Eugene Eloff has tried, Frans Ludeke has tried, Jake White has tried and now **** Muir is trying.
When will you idiots see, its not the coach.
Have a look at the structures and the players. Not up to scratch.
I mean you have guys that can’t even draw a contract up running the union. Enough said.
Things are changing slowly and I do think the structures are being rectified slowly but it takes a long time to turn an oil tanker!
12 Mar 2010, 14:44 pm
@Ned: Blubbering Baywatch says they WILL bounce back…where’s yr faith..?
12 Mar 2010, 14:48 pm
yeah remeber how kak the bulls were, it took time and now look at then
just been reading other headlines
i know its not Rugby related, but am i a bad person for thinking this world would be a much better place if the likes of Malema and his following where extermenated like roaches
just putting it out there …..
12 Mar 2010, 14:49 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter: 300. Otago has.
12 Mar 2010, 14:49 pm
This is only amusing because the Lions purchased the Show Pony
12 Mar 2010, 14:50 pm
That’s unfortunate
There are quite a few mini coopers in Soweto
I am guessing there will be a spate of trade ins on bmws
Kind of like swapping the lions for the bulls..
12 Mar 2010, 14:50 pm
@Oubaas2009:
You mean Highlanders …. when?
12 Mar 2010, 14:50 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter : 300 and the famous all slaying Chiefs took 60 points in a final. Now thats embarrasing.
12 Mar 2010, 14:51 pm
@Oubaas2009: yep agreed, like taking 49 without reply to the Aussies
12 Mar 2010, 14:51 pm
@Ned: Bad choice…. you should have followed katmans example and signed up for a Stormers shirt
12 Mar 2010, 14:52 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter: Gavin Lawless got 50 points on his own. Sharks vs Highlanders.
12 Mar 2010, 14:53 pm
@Gonzo Journalism: Attn all just dismiss the post #306, i just get angry you know
and it is friday after all
12 Mar 2010, 14:54 pm
@poppa69: agreed or like not winning a RWC for 23 years?
12 Mar 2010, 14:54 pm
@Gonzo Journalism: brass knuckles and iron bars at the ready then
12 Mar 2010, 14:54 pm
@Ned: We never have any joy with this team. I never thought things would get this bad this season under Muir
12 Mar 2010, 14:55 pm
@Oubaas2009:
yeah, or even worse, letting Eng put 50 on ya … would rather continue to lose the WC then have Eng tear us a new one lmfao 
12 Mar 2010, 14:57 pm
@Gonzo Journalism:
Here, you can say what you like.
12 Mar 2010, 14:57 pm
only so much a coach can do though, the players still have to make the tackles, they still have to have pride in their performance (pun intended)…
12 Mar 2010, 14:58 pm
@Oubaas2009:
? The Sharks have never scored more than 36 points against the Highlanders
12 Mar 2010, 14:58 pm
I am really heart broken here boys…this is my team for god sakes. Now how can they expect me and many others to stick with them if they play like that without any discipline and desire.
12 Mar 2010, 14:58 pm
@Jozi: @Dawn: #293 & 294 lmao!!!
dawn you’re killing me! “where’s the Ntanga?” hahahaha
12 Mar 2010, 14:59 pm
@Gonzo Journalism: I feel you bru’…do we really need black rascists in power…I guess thats what the masses want…they all want to live like bra Julie
12 Mar 2010, 15:00 pm
@poppa69: Na mate, this another story, im talking guided missles and assistance from the israeli special forces….
12 Mar 2010, 15:00 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter: 322
Sharks 75 Highlanders 43
Most points in a match : 50 – Gavin Lawless, Sharks
I am right, you are wrong.
12 Mar 2010, 15:01 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter: Oubaas is right, it was something like a 75-35 clubbing a couple of years back
12 Mar 2010, 15:01 pm
Bye bye now. Enjoy rugga tomorrow! Go Sharks.
12 Mar 2010, 15:01 pm
are the Worrytahs semi final contenders then?
12 Mar 2010, 15:03 pm
@Ned: Gotta get right down to basics…learn from scratch…like Naas says..”Fire the players” if they can’t come on board…draw the line and go back to basic defence and structure,throwing the ball around ain’t got no hope..!
12 Mar 2010, 15:04 pm
Fire **** ‘we don’t need a defensive coach’ NOW!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 15:04 pm
@Dawn:Say what you like….like an AA meeting, but im not an alcoholic, see alcoholics go to AA meetings, im just a drunk
12 Mar 2010, 15:05 pm
Fire ****’we don’t need structure’ NOW!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 15:06 pm
While we at it, get rid of the wannabe rugby player earl rose.
12 Mar 2010, 15:06 pm
@Oubaas2009:
BUZZZZ WRONG
That was not the Highlanders. It was not even a S12/S14 game (no wonder I could not find it)
Biggest results between Highlanders and Sharks were the Shark loss away 5-45 and Sharks loss at home 7-43
12 Mar 2010, 15:07 pm
@Storm outta hell: OH well, perhaps by the time he is old enough to be president, we would have evolved past his BS
12 Mar 2010, 15:08 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter: They thereabouts,but no way they gonna win a semi or final at Loftus
12 Mar 2010, 15:08 pm
I actually used to support the Lions above other SA sides. Can’t you guys get rid of Carlos?
12 Mar 2010, 15:08 pm
After this brutality I’ll have to change my signature from this >^..^^oo^<
12 Mar 2010, 15:09 pm
@katman: I love it when WordPress thinks it knows best what to do with my post.
12 Mar 2010, 15:09 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Maybe the can do their usual last 3 games blow the semi finals trick
It is looking like Loftus. Have to see how the Bulls go on the road
12 Mar 2010, 15:10 pm
I am so angry at the lions rugby union, bunch of %$#@ clowns … why oh why did you hire **** instead of ****.
Yes, we have a bunch of new and ‘young’ players .. but seriously, how can we expect them to do anything when they are told to play touch/7′s rugby, and there is no structure, or dicipline, especialy in defence.
Agh no man .. lets get real .. the lions are going to lose all there games this season, and we are going to get the usual bullsh#t .. building, new ext ..
%$#@ !!!!
12 Mar 2010, 15:10 pm
In my opinion the Lions are the most unprofessional union to deal with in SA.
And please understand, that there are some honest, hard working, die-hard Lions people involved there, but the one guy simply has no idea what the next guy is doing.
The Lions imo has the wrong decision makers in place.
There seems to be a believe that money-men will make the right decisions.
The simple truth of the matter however is that professional rugby cannot be run on pure passions alone, nor can it be run on pure money either, because your resources and most valued assets are people – and it is one thing to manage a product as a resource in industries to be successful, it is quite different to manage people if they are your main resource to deliver a successful product.
There seems to be no balance, no plan – or rather, they will claim they have a plan, but I cannot see them working towards a sustainable plan.
Victory does not start on the field and filters through to the structures inside – it works the other way around.
A successful product does not make a successful company, but a successful company can just about make any product successful.
12 Mar 2010, 15:11 pm
correction: hire **** instead of HM
12 Mar 2010, 15:12 pm
Wikus van Heerden quote earlier this week:
“I’ve been watching all the Super 14 coverage of the Lions that I can. Although they haven’t won a game yet, there are massive improvements shown each week,’ he said. ‘They have definitely proved they can score and the defence is picking up each week.”
12 Mar 2010, 15:14 pm
@Gonzo Journalism: i’ve always maintained that the problem is not necessarily julius but the imbeciles that VOTED for him to be their leader instead of the other dude songezo (forget his surname)!!!! That is who i am worried about, the consumers & believers of populist rhetoric!
12 Mar 2010, 15:14 pm
@Horing: thats as funny as Stew Wilson and Ian Jones, stating that the Highlanders will take the Stormers on the Re Union rugby show
12 Mar 2010, 15:14 pm
@Oubaas2009:
Correct.
That stage they were still Natal, it was in 1997 in Durban.
75-43, Lawless scored 50 in that game, 4 tries, 9 conversions, 4 penalties.
Before the Lions/Chiefs game it was the highest aggregate score in Super rugby history (118)
12 Mar 2010, 15:14 pm
Gonzo
Don’t worry about julius ..
He is a deliberate distraction put there for your amusement whilst the govt gently phucks the rest of the country in the pie hole..
Now the lions on the other hand .. that’s a serious problem..
12 Mar 2010, 15:16 pm
If they wanted discipline and structured rugby then why did they hire the Show Pony?
It seems it was because he was available and not because he was a good fit
12 Mar 2010, 15:17 pm
@Gonzo Journalism:
12 Mar 2010, 15:17 pm
@Transformation: And they walk and breath among us !!!!
12 Mar 2010, 15:18 pm
I have to appologise to Rose for always saying that he is inconsistent. I was wrong! He he consistently ****! As long as him and Spencer are in the team, they will keep on losing, and rightly so.
12 Mar 2010, 15:18 pm
@Transformation:
He is the problem.
12 Mar 2010, 15:18 pm
@Transformation:
Ubukulu abubangwa.
Julius? Eish. Akuko mpukane inqakulela enye.
Ilizwe lifile.
12 Mar 2010, 15:19 pm
@PissAnt:
Agreed
There are also to many ‘chancers’ in the union .. **** being one of them.
I can honestly say, that as a Lions supporter, I don’t know how much more I can take of this ****.
What really makes me angry is that they had a chance to become more professional by getting HM in, but they wasted the chance, and it won’t come again.
12 Mar 2010, 15:20 pm
@Gonzo Journalism: The poor oke is joining the Lions later this year. From Bulls to Sarecens to Lions. Next move would be retirement.
12 Mar 2010, 15:20 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Awright awright.
We all know Carlos was a mistake.
12 Mar 2010, 15:20 pm
The Lions buggered my super-bru stats again! I had the Tahs by 12, not bleddy 61! At least my Saders score was spot=on! Saders by 7! My 3rd one this season.
12 Mar 2010, 15:20 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Actually right.
Maybe you should invest in a rugby almanac or a Nintendo DS and get your brain age back down to 99.
Gavin Lawless scored 50 points in the Sharks win over the Highlanders with a score of 75-43 in the 1996 SUPER 12.
Deny it all you want, but it’s true.
12 Mar 2010, 15:21 pm
Gonzo
Relax bud julius is a distraction put there to divert your attention whilst the government gently
fcuks the rest of the country in the pie hole ..
The lions however.. now that’s a real problem..
12 Mar 2010, 15:22 pm
@Johan Fourie: what name are you under on suuperbru Johan?
12 Mar 2010, 15:22 pm
Something is seriously wrong with the Lions. I am working in joburg CBD and I saw Bulls, Stormers and Sharks jerseys around me today, but not a single Lions jersey. This while they are the only SA team playing today. I am sure this will not be the case in Pretoria, Capetown, Bloem or Durban.
12 Mar 2010, 15:23 pm
@gunther:
Yes, the ANC is very good with distraction tactics!
12 Mar 2010, 15:25 pm
@gunther:
Do you know you must click on the grey box to respond to a comment?
12 Mar 2010, 15:27 pm
@Jozi:
Uska wara ndoda at least your team is in the super 14, I’ll be watching EP vs WP tomorrow. I’m looking forward to the clash between Mxunyelwa and Nodikida.
12 Mar 2010, 15:27 pm
Wptid
Yes there was a whole semmester on it at Lubyanka university..
12 Mar 2010, 15:28 pm
@GAStman:
BUZZ WRONG
That was against Otago (before we had super regions in NZ so just an NPC side).
The Highlanders covers all of the lower half of the South Island which includes Div 1 sides Southland and Otago.
12 Mar 2010, 15:29 pm
@Dawn: My guess is he only ticks the Blue boxes
12 Mar 2010, 15:29 pm
@gunther:
Yes, comrade.
They learnt from the best, the Soviets…whose population was kept blissfully unaware of the outside world and thought they lived in the best country in the world
12 Mar 2010, 15:29 pm
Dawn
I prefer my way it’s more personal..
Did you know penguins mate for life?
12 Mar 2010, 15:29 pm
Useless Lions!
Luckily I found out my wife is pregnant so I have a escape clause.
No way am I going to be that cruel to get my kid to become a Lion supporter like my dad did. Nope, after all these years I will be one of the last rats to jump this sinking ship….
Have said it for a few years now but maybe it is time to call it a day on this team.
Every year we get the promises and every year it is the same result.
The Lions should make way for another team. Let the Spears have a go. They can’t be worse than the Lions….
12 Mar 2010, 15:30 pm
Storm Outta Hell: Julie Boy doesn’t speak on bahalf of the masses although some times he pretends to do just that. He’s a doos that is being used by the politicos to peddle their agenda…..I seriously wouldn’t get all wound up by him.
12 Mar 2010, 15:30 pm
@Storm outta hell:
He’s probably blogging on a phone – the “Reply to” option is not available on the mobile site.
12 Mar 2010, 15:31 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Stop with your buzz ****.
Otago was a super rugby side. Finish and klaar.
12 Mar 2010, 15:32 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Sorry. I am wrong.
You were talking about Natel and not the Sharks
I did not check them. You are correct
12 Mar 2010, 15:32 pm
@gunther:
So what if penguins mate for life?
12 Mar 2010, 15:32 pm
@poppa69: Hey Poppa. The same, Johan Fourie. You?
12 Mar 2010, 15:33 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Wrong, the Highlanders franchise formed in 1996.
Originally named the Otago Highlanders, the Highlanders’ franchise area encompassed the lower South Island of New Zealand, and was formed from the North Otago, Otago, and Southland provincial rugby unions.
The 1996 team was captained by John Leslie and coached by Gordon Hunter.
The game in question above was in 1997.
12 Mar 2010, 15:33 pm
@Johan Fourie:
Try “69-year-old granddad”
12 Mar 2010, 15:34 pm
I am here and I am reading all the words from all the anti-lions here.
Go on…
12 Mar 2010, 15:34 pm
@Johan Fourie: the same name mate… you not in Keo Muppits group? wrenlest is the poolcode if you want to join… didnt see your name there is all
12 Mar 2010, 15:34 pm
@Grrrr….I’m a Lion!: Yeah, the Spears/Kings under Solomons sounds better than this farcical lions team.
12 Mar 2010, 15:34 pm
Wptid
Where is g13 gerbil I feel an animal farm moment coming on!
12 Mar 2010, 15:36 pm
@RedLion:
The only anti I’m seeing is from Lions supporters.
Your point?
12 Mar 2010, 15:37 pm
@gunther:
I’m pleasantly surprised to see that you have read Animal Farm!
12 Mar 2010, 15:37 pm
@mxhosa: #366 At this rate we might well be relegated to that league…..
It would be good to see a strong team from the EP.
Lots of raw talent there, I believe Mjekevu is from EP.
12 Mar 2010, 15:38 pm
@PissAnt:
I got the year wrong as I only looked at Sharks results and not Natel (because on the previous page someone said it was the Sharks)
The Otago Highlanders are not the same as Otago though as Dawn states.
12 Mar 2010, 15:39 pm
@RedLion:
I’m not a anti-Lion mate but there is a time when we all must face reality….
1999 was the last time the Lions won ANYTHING!!
Eleven @#$%ing years this BS has been going on and a lot of supporters have stuck with them, including me but enough is enough.
They don’t even look like they want to improve…
Time to wake up, give Fanta Park to the Nigerians and send the players to the Bulls.
Those 13 people that pitch up at the Stadium every week can drive to Pretoria for a game of Rugby rather and it will stop more money being wasted.
12 Mar 2010, 15:39 pm
@Dawn: that’s why they are anti-lions luv
12 Mar 2010, 15:41 pm
Bring on the Spears and DROP the USELESS Lions. Truly they could not do worse than this bunch of fools?
12 Mar 2010, 15:42 pm
@gunther:
Hehehehehe. I miss the old sloshed security guard immensely.
One of the most sincere bloggers here on Keo, ever.
12 Mar 2010, 15:42 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Shot.
12 Mar 2010, 15:43 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
Bite me.
And it’s NATAL not NATEL.
12 Mar 2010, 15:44 pm
@chch – welcome back Carter:
No. Seriously.
Bite me!
12 Mar 2010, 15:44 pm
@poppa69: Who is in that group? I just got assigned a group, but we are doing well. I’m 2nd in our group, 76%. Will check it out.
12 Mar 2010, 15:46 pm
@Jozi:
I was just in Varsity Cup site, couldn’t believe the number of players that come from the EP/Border region, that’s why the Madibaz are the Lions of the Varsity Cup.
In a perfect world this team would be running for the Kings next year:
15. Tiger Mangweni; 14. Trompie Nontshinga; 13. Luzuko Vulindlu; 12. Tim Whitehead; 11. Michael Killian; 10. Lionel Cronje; 9. Rory Kockott; 8. Dewald Potgieter; 7. Luke Watson; 6. Mpho Mbiyozo; 5. Nikolia Blignaut; 4. Rory Duncan; 3. Ross Geldenhuys; 2. Bandise Maku; 1. Pumlani Nodikida
12 Mar 2010, 15:47 pm
@Johan Fourie: lots of people from this blog, but if you are doing so well perhaps you shouldnt join
lol
12 Mar 2010, 15:49 pm
@Johan Fourie: 76% will put you about 30th with the muppits
12 Mar 2010, 15:50 pm
@Grrrr….I’m a Lion!: Hey, congratulations man. This will make up for any heartache these vile buffoons have caused you over the years. I made the mistake of buying my little boy a Lions jersey. He’s too small to remember it, if I burn it now.
12 Mar 2010, 15:50 pm
Dawn
What’s eating your ntanga???
12 Mar 2010, 15:52 pm
@mxhosa: #396 lots of quality players there. Who’s this Loose head prop Nodikida? I don’t know anything about him…..you seem to rate him.
12 Mar 2010, 15:53 pm
@Dawn:
12 Mar 2010, 15:54 pm
@poppa69: I see you’ve shot up the charts sinse the week before…how could I have got it so horribly wrong..?
12 Mar 2010, 15:56 pm
@RedLion:now you’re starting to sound like kzn mad shark…it hurts us to see the lions so *****…
@mxhosa: see you there chap…
12 Mar 2010, 15:56 pm
Dawn
I am a pleasantly suprising person.
Did you think you were the only one here with an education?
12 Mar 2010, 15:56 pm
Absolute disgrace… And **** was gonna come in and save them, and they were gonna be in the top half and and and
12 Mar 2010, 15:57 pm
@Storm outta hell: week 3 was a good one for me..jumped from 48th to 12th… but it can change very quickly…would you believe I didnt tip the bulls the first two weeks either
12 Mar 2010, 16:00 pm
@SpringbokSarah: The more some things change…the more they never do
12 Mar 2010, 16:03 pm
@poppa69: I have 23 from 28 so far. The Reds cost me 2 ( Chiefs, Saders ), and the Sharks cost me 3!
12 Mar 2010, 16:03 pm
@poppa69: You telling me…not backing the Bulls at fortress Loftus a no-brainer…I went 4th to 9th to lurking in the late 20′s favouring Blues and having no faith in Cheetahs…we have a saying here,”as jy dom is moet jy k@k..!”
12 Mar 2010, 16:04 pm
@Storm outta hell: Are you serious?
12 Mar 2010, 16:04 pm
@gunther:
371
Congradulations. Remember to never underestimate your child and challenge him enough.
I agree though, we should have a go at the Lions with the spears.
12 Mar 2010, 16:04 pm
@gunther:
(Private joke)
12 Mar 2010, 16:05 pm
@Grrrr….I’m a Lion!:
OOPS.
At post 372.
12 Mar 2010, 16:05 pm
@Jozi:
Saw him last year’s CC 1st division, 1.88m @ 113kg, Toks vd Linde likes him too
12 Mar 2010, 16:07 pm
@gunther:
You were saying about the pengiuns?
12 Mar 2010, 16:07 pm
@Johan Fourie: Seriaaaaas..I have 24 from 28 and I’m in the late 20′s
but join anyway,you can play both pools
12 Mar 2010, 16:09 pm
@Storm outta hell: I’ll go check, but somehow I think you are bullsh*4% me!
12 Mar 2010, 16:09 pm
@Transformation: damn, what an insult. Comparing Red to krazy king shark … EINA!
12 Mar 2010, 16:11 pm
@Storm outta hell: blues are my team and I didnt back them against the Saders, same old same old with them Im afraid, they are nuisance value and will hurt some teams chances of finals… Cheetahs have cost me too, seem to back them when they lose and go against them when they win lol..
I have 22 from 29 Johan, so you will be right amongst it if you do join… reds cost me those two as well, Sharks I have been on the money against so far, but am very nervous about tomorrow, think they started showing signs last week that they are starting to finally play again… but took Brumbies, home ground advantage the only reason…
12 Mar 2010, 16:13 pm
@Storm outta hell: it’s disgusting, every year they fight to be last
12 Mar 2010, 16:13 pm
@Johan Fourie: No kidding,just join the pool and your picks will automatically go into both pools as well as your present score,how many in yr pool..?..there’s 111 players in the muppits.
12 Mar 2010, 16:14 pm
@SpringbokSarah: Yep…but they gonna have to fight darn hard to beat the Force this year
12 Mar 2010, 16:15 pm
@mxhosa: #415 Will watch out for him.
@RedLion: #419 Yeah RL, the whining is for them sharkies mate. African Lions ain’t no sissies
Cheers fellas…..I’m outta here, have to go and drown my sorrows.
12 Mar 2010, 16:15 pm
Dawn
Some penguins are more equal than others..
12 Mar 2010, 16:17 pm
The score srprised me I thouth a 30 points margin will be reasonable
Yah, keep playing Rose and Chavanga, and why not?
12 Mar 2010, 16:19 pm
@Storm outta hell: Will do so.
@poppa69: This week I went with the Brumbies. Maybe now the Sharks will win.
12 Mar 2010, 16:21 pm
@Johan Fourie: yep, crunch game for my superbru is the canes/stormers, tipped the Canes, so will either plummet or soar
hope to see you there Johan, the more the merrier…
have issues at work
cheers guys…
12 Mar 2010, 16:24 pm
@Hondo: Chavanga not so bad,but thanx 4 taking him off Stormers hands.Rose and King Carlos very sloppy…
12 Mar 2010, 16:30 pm
@poppa69: Blouste will have my nuts if ‘Canes win…it’s a tough game to call..
12 Mar 2010, 16:30 pm
@Storm outta hell: lol ja Force decided the cup was too much hassle… they’d rather get into a handbag fight over the wooden spoon with a bunch of kittens
12 Mar 2010, 16:34 pm
@gunther:
Relax.
No slight on your intellectual abilities.
Just a private joke I have going with myself.
12 Mar 2010, 16:37 pm
@SpringbokSarah:
12 Mar 2010, 16:39 pm
Sigh
Due to budget cuts I have no whiskey.
Tragic it is.
12 Mar 2010, 16:45 pm
Wellington – A New Zealand man is recovering from injuries after being run over by his wife – twice, local media reported on Friday.
Sandy Telford ran over her husband, Terry, as she backed down the driveway of their rural property in the Hawke’s Bay region, 350km north-east of Wellington, the Dominion Post newspaper reported.
Not realising what she had done, Telford then drove her car forward, running over him again.
12 Mar 2010, 16:46 pm
come have some whiskey with me dawnertjie.
we can make the circle bigger.
12 Mar 2010, 16:48 pm
@Dawn: 435
Musta caught him out with the sheep…
12 Mar 2010, 16:51 pm
by “not realising what she had done” they probably mean “realising that the ******* was still alive”
12 Mar 2010, 16:56 pm
Ain’t Dawn that PA girl? Advice: Quiet Woman!!!! Rugby is a man’s game!!!
12 Mar 2010, 16:58 pm
I happen to find women who watch and understand rugby quite appealing.
12 Mar 2010, 16:58 pm
@roobarb2:
Ja please gimme some whiskey.
@Ned:
‘Scuse me?
12 Mar 2010, 17:00 pm
Times are tough, make your own… Moonshine may make you go blind, but it makes you blind drunk first!
12 Mar 2010, 17:04 pm
@4thWiseMan:
Thank you kindly.
Wise you are.
12 Mar 2010, 17:11 pm
Those ****** Lions are gonna need a barrel of whiskey to drown their sorrows
12 Mar 2010, 17:20 pm
@Storm outta hell: ^ And I hope the ****** let the Lions players know how useless they are if they want to try score tonight.
12 Mar 2010, 17:21 pm
Hmmm. Forgive the timezone discrepancy.
12 Mar 2010, 17:29 pm
@Storm outta hell:
#429
Rose, Benjamin, Chavanga, Spencer and Muir are all simply epitomizing the sorry state of the once proud JHB franchise.
Hell bent to meet the quota numbers while at the same time busy degrading whatever left from the Loffee regime
12 Mar 2010, 17:41 pm
how can you possibly degrade from the loffie regime?
he was dead last ffs!
12 Mar 2010, 17:44 pm
Hmmmm….I wonder how it will go down if some Freedom Front ou starts chanting “Let’s kill the blacks,they are rapists..!”..?
12 Mar 2010, 18:08 pm
@Hondo, you sure are full of it. Benjamin does not even play int he Lions team…he busy running around the Sevens circuit you Racist!…what? we all look the same? Tired of your ish!
12 Mar 2010, 18:17 pm
Like my new nickname?
12 Mar 2010, 18:19 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: Fitting
12 Mar 2010, 18:30 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Seriously, I’m done. People can call me a ‘fair weather supporter’ but I have given the Lions my support since I was 6, that is 26 years of my life supporting them but no more…
I will now support the Province where I live and where I go to watch my Rugby every so often. Newlands.
I have not been to Ellis Park in over 15 years and since this team is hell bent on giving me an ulcer I’m just going to turn my back on them.
It makes me sad but really, 11 years of misery, going from one disaster to the next is long enough and it is time for a change.
From now on I’m a Stormer fan. Finish en klaar… I will still decide what I will be doing with the Lions kit hanging in my closet since I’m to embarrassed to wear it in public any more.
My nick will stay that until the end of the Super14 season and then it will change to something closer to my new team.
Sorry Lions, but today was the last straw. Good luck and good bye….
12 Mar 2010, 18:33 pm
@Storm outta hell: hey, Blouste has tipped the Canes to win by 4 anyways?
12 Mar 2010, 18:37 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: You’re most welcome to join us where there is plenty of gees,but we’ve also had our fair share of troubled times.
but they seem to have lost the plot.
Lions certainly seem to keep their best performances for the Stormers
They just made the ‘Tahs look so good,but soft tries every last one of ‘em…welcome to Newlands and may you become one of the faithful and enjoy celebrating some good wins..!!
12 Mar 2010, 18:38 pm
where is grant10?
been very quiet
12 Mar 2010, 18:39 pm
@poppa69: He’s a non-believer,when he asked my opinion I said Stormers by 13…I hope it costs him
12 Mar 2010, 18:40 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: Rather become a Bull at least support a winning team. What have the Stormers achieved in the Super 14. You have a fresh slate choose wisely. Not from one looser team to another
12 Mar 2010, 18:40 pm
@Seven: Grant is very low on the superbru standings,I’m sure he’ll resurface when he has a more respectable score
12 Mar 2010, 18:43 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: How ’bout telling us what yr nic used to be so we know who we’re blogging with..?
12 Mar 2010, 18:43 pm
@Storm outta hell: I agree I think Stormers by at least 7. Lets kill the Canes they are rapists
12 Mar 2010, 18:45 pm
@Airwell:
12 Mar 2010, 18:48 pm
@Storm outta hell: I hope JZ stands by me too
12 Mar 2010, 18:51 pm
@Storm outta hell:
The Stormers got their act together, slowly,,,
The financial incentives to perform at the top started at last sinking in, they got rid of Lobbert, Mujati and now they gathered the courage to drop January and Aplon, Dejongh will follow suit soon
Or
Bye bye play offs!
12 Mar 2010, 18:52 pm
@Airwell: JZ will do more than stand by you if you’re a hot mama,he may pull you into his shower
12 Mar 2010, 18:54 pm
@Hondo: Aplon and deJongh have their part to play,but the other 3 are just so much baggage.
12 Mar 2010, 18:57 pm
@Storm outta hell:
It was “Grrrr….I’m a Lion!”
12 Mar 2010, 18:58 pm
@Hondo: It’s a slow process,and the Lions will do well to remember it,they may still pull off an upset or 2…good to see Vermaak back in the mix,and there’s still enough talent to play some good rugga,just got to go back to basics and fire Rose.
12 Mar 2010, 18:59 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: Kewl…now we know
12 Mar 2010, 19:00 pm
@Storm outta hell:
466
Aplon and DeJongh are good, keen and honest, by no means quota
They are simply too small for the Super14 size, Brent Russell was let go for the same reason
De Jongh impedes the ball from getting to the wings and to JF, he has no skills at 12, he will be dropped soon or the investment in Fourie and Habana is deemed a waste!
Best to play that youngster at 10 and Grant at 12 although Grant did a WELL above average job at 10 so far, I just look at how to make those world class weapons of Hab and JF work
12 Mar 2010, 19:01 pm
@Airwell:
Why? I live in Cape Town now.
So support the team where you live and watch your Rugby.
Besides, you Bull okes smell funny….
12 Mar 2010, 19:09 pm
@Hondo: Agreed…JdV might also be back soon and will most likely get a starting berth… Aplon and deJongh to come on in the last quarter and do devastating stuff with fresh legs
12 Mar 2010, 19:11 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: C’mon bru…paint yr face blue and white and I’ll buy you a beer at Newlands…those Bulls oke’s smell like Bullsh*t..!!
12 Mar 2010, 19:24 pm
Conceding ELEVEN tries? Sounds like the score from an under 14F game at 8am on the school’s worst cabbage-patch field.
12 Mar 2010, 19:25 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: So I would smell funny to you as we have won 2 Super 14 titles in the last 3 years. Stormers and Lions Nada. Support a winning team boet. You are going from one non event to another.
12 Mar 2010, 19:28 pm
‘Carlos Spencer gifted the Tahs their first two tries’
12 Mar 2010, 19:28 pm
going to a 70s themed party… this stuff you old people wore was ridiculous
12 Mar 2010, 19:30 pm
@Storm outta hell: the oke has had such mouth ripping into schalk and everyone else, but he is so blind sided and has the foresight of a new born child up against its mothers back…
schalk had a stormer, long live the boks of 2007 and 2009
12 Mar 2010, 19:31 pm
@Storm outta hell: blue and white? you want him to support the Blues?
12 Mar 2010, 19:34 pm
@poppa69: Another team that lives on past glories. If the Blues were a soccer team the would be called Liverpool
12 Mar 2010, 19:36 pm
@Seven: #456 he’s started his own blog…it’s called turbo-reverse (dot) co (dot) za
12 Mar 2010, 19:37 pm
come on WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 19:39 pm
@Airwell: yeah but what past glories, players the calibre of Fitzy, iceman Jones, Dowd, Olo Brown, the Whetton Brothers, the Brooke brothers, Steve McDowall… thems just forwards, add backs the calibre of Bunce and you can see why…
when your bulls finally crash you will relive these couple of great years too… and until your team has 3 super titles
shshhhhhhh
12 Mar 2010, 19:40 pm
man when I get hone I am going to see the highlights of this to see what happened, I think that this is a good idea … or is it?
12 Mar 2010, 19:45 pm
@poppa69: That team was great no doubt but even with all those players in the AB team they could not win the world cup in 95, what gives with that? We should have 3 at the end of this season btw.
12 Mar 2010, 19:48 pm
@poppa69: Hah…you got me there…I’m so WP I dream in blue and white
12 Mar 2010, 19:51 pm
@Airwell: yeah, but they did then grab the series in SA against the World Champions (96), has a much nicer ring to it… and I believe 95 was karma for SA finally turning the corner a few years earlier… and hey, lets not mention that semi vs France and the subsequent gold timing piece hahaha
not sure youve won it this year yet… still a lot of rugby to be played, and your defence isnt too flash at the moment, though your attack is very very good…
12 Mar 2010, 19:51 pm
@RedLion: Not good…you may burst a blood vessel…rather watch the Bulls and Stormers tomorrow
12 Mar 2010, 19:55 pm
@Storm outta hell: so you dream of the Blues? welcome aboard
12 Mar 2010, 19:55 pm
@poppa69: Very very good on the highveldt…we’ve yet to see ‘em perform at sea level…kinda levels the playing field
12 Mar 2010, 19:55 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!:
Not a WP supporter for more than 8 hours and already giving the Bulls kak.
12 Mar 2010, 19:56 pm
@poppa69: I’m not as one-eyed as I may come across…I support most teams that play good winning rugby..!!
12 Mar 2010, 19:59 pm
@Storm outta hell: me too mate, rugby fan first and foremost, can appreciate and admire other teams and players when they are playing great rugby, but one doesnt have to tell their supporters that
12 Mar 2010, 20:03 pm
@PissAnt:
Hey, don’t you start too!
Been a long time Mr. PissAnt sir.
12 Mar 2010, 20:03 pm
@poppa69: Nah…I hear you there…and I’m quick on attack if anyone says otherwise..!!
12 Mar 2010, 20:08 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: Mr and Sir? not even 8 hours as a stormer fan and you’re already acquiesing to PA
@Storm outta hell: yep me too… very parochial and passionate…
12 Mar 2010, 20:11 pm
I have known PA a long time.
He used to bully me with his astute Rugby brain.
Will be refreshing being on the same side for a change.
12 Mar 2010, 20:12 pm
@poppa69: p and p…they must’ve broke da mold..!!
12 Mar 2010, 20:15 pm
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: I enjoy his posts, usually sound rugby wise and he doesnt let emotion cloud his judgement…
@Storm outta hell: I must remember at times to engage the brain before letting the mouth fly
12 Mar 2010, 20:16 pm
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!
12 Mar 2010, 20:16 pm
Grrr! Welcome back and welcome to the wp family. Good start there with regards to the blue cows- just add more detail to your blue bool personal hygiene jokes and add some incest jibes. Want some examples?
12 Mar 2010, 20:17 pm
@Slappes: Going fishin’..??
12 Mar 2010, 20:20 pm
@Slappes:
Train me old wise one!
12 Mar 2010, 20:22 pm
@Transformation:
Yeah, I also like the Warriors. In fact, they are my second team as half of them live in Cape Town
12 Mar 2010, 20:26 pm
Johan Botha chucking his way to respectable bowling figures yet again.
12 Mar 2010, 20:27 pm
@Robzim: Yah…Conrad pissed ‘em off so they went up east
12 Mar 2010, 20:30 pm
@Storm outta hell: so where do you see your team winning the game this weekend?
12 Mar 2010, 20:32 pm
483. POPPA69: “players the calibre of Fitzy, iceman Jones, Dowd, Olo Brown, the Whetton Brothers, the Brooke brothers, Steve McDow”
Michael Jones – QUALITY… I saw him at Twickers fecking rugby genius and he understood the ethos, humility and aggression.
New Zealand has many legends and you’ve mentioned a few but one has no place at the table.
I don’t mean to be confrontational Poppa but despite Sean Fitzpatrick being one of the new breed of “modern” players at the time, he was cynical and he introduced an unpleasant edge to the game. Underhanded and sneaky, we all understand the need to win but not at any cost, this one disgraced your beloved AB jersey.
Go on have a go, but deep down I bet every New Zealander feels just a little bit uncomfortable with him.
Be honest now…
12 Mar 2010, 20:34 pm
Nicky is killing them with his fingerspin.
12 Mar 2010, 20:34 pm
@poppa69: Demonic defence…they not gonna change anything…same old,same old.. but getting better all the time…how about yrs,or they not playing..?
12 Mar 2010, 20:36 pm
@Storm outta hell:
Yip,I can still perhaps understood that he did not select Boucher at that time (he has never played for the WP/Cobra’s) but to have left out Jacques Kallis was absolutely unforgivable.
Just plain stupid.
12 Mar 2010, 20:40 pm
@Robzim: thanks robbie , we are on FIRE here @ st georges park!!! WARRIORS
12 Mar 2010, 20:41 pm
The eastern pavilion on loftus had their and ancestry and iqs tested. Obviously the result for iq came back negative. More worringly was the fact that they all had a common ancestor ….a brick.
12 Mar 2010, 20:42 pm
@Transformation:
Mark is just brilliant tonite – cameo knock and great stumpings.
And then there are people who say he should not be in the Protea side???
12 Mar 2010, 20:43 pm
to all you pathetic pieces of poop who are now jumping the Lions ship and declaring your undying love for the tired old hooker turning tricks on the street corner, I say GROW A SPINE !
and I thought it was only KKK who could stoop so embarrassingly low……”oooh, I only support winners”. No team, no matter how good, deserves that type of toxic poison joining the party long after the hard work was done. Where was KKK when the Bulls leaked like the Titanic in 2002 ?
Counties & Highlanders until I die.
12 Mar 2010, 20:47 pm
@filthy Luca: @508
oh, and compared to whom ?
BaXXies ?
Corne ?
Bismarck ?
Big Vic and his armblade ?
Burger the eye-burglar ?
let he who cast the first stone….
12 Mar 2010, 20:50 pm
I had a profound thought today, nothing to do with the Lions, or even rugby for that matter, but I’ll use a rugby reference to illustrate it:
If Elton and Jan buy a farm together, each will own half of the farm.
So let’s say Jan has 2 children and Elton has 6. So now let’s say all the kids remain on the farm and end up working for their respective parents and eventually inherit the land when Elton and Jan both move on to greener pastures.
Let’s say the pattern repeats itself, and each of Elton’s 6 kids has 6 kids of his own, and each of Jan’s kids has 2 kids of his own.
Now, two generations later, Elton’s 36 descendants will own half the farm, and Jan’s 4 descendants will own the other half. It is perfectly logical.
So why does it not work that way with the whole country? Why should Elton’s descendants have 36 votes to decide the future of all, while Jan’s descendants will only have 4 votes? Why should Jan’s descendants be penalised for the fact that their father and grandfather chose to have fewer children than Elton and his sons?
Why not retain the proportional split between Jan and Elton’s descendants? This will reward Jan’s sensible, responsible actions – as he realised his half of the farm could only provide for 4 grandkids, while it would legitimately penalise Elton for irresponsibly thinking that his half of the pie could sustain 36. Why should Jan’s share be reduced because of the irresponsible actions of Elton and his descendants?
I thank you and look forward to your responses.
12 Mar 2010, 20:50 pm
@filthy Luca: no dramas, I appreciate your honesty…
I think most kiwis will always remember him as a legend, simply because you dont become the first captain of the ABs to win a series in SA without having that win at all costs mentality…that was our final frontier rugby wise…
did he overstep the mark, yes on occassions..but I think Richard Loe was much worse for cynical and underhanded play…
Andy Hadens “dive” versus Wales didnt cover the jersey in glory either..
12 Mar 2010, 20:52 pm
@Storm outta hell: they have been very miserly, should be a titanic game… Blues have the bye, so we may just sneak a win..
12 Mar 2010, 20:54 pm
@Robzim: one more wicket & we rule limited overs cricket for the YEAR!!!!!!! LET THE BOOZE FLOW BABY!!!
12 Mar 2010, 20:56 pm
@poppa69: @518
When I speak rugby with my Brit/Irish/Euro mates in London, they say Fitzy “IS rugby”.
When Safas take easy shots at Legends of the Game like Fitzy, I just say ‘turn the other ear’.
12 Mar 2010, 20:57 pm
516. Black Panther
He brought it to the game and you must carry the shame, darn not trying to be a poet.
The guys you mention are a bit rough but at least you can see it coming at you – your Sean was a smooth sneak who killed the innocence. Before his time there was a code – he broke it, sorry but you know it’s the truth.
12 Mar 2010, 21:01 pm
we ARE THE CHAMPIONS….no time for losers, cos we are the CHAMPIONS!!!
12 Mar 2010, 21:10 pm
@Transformation:
Well done and well deserved!!!
12 Mar 2010, 21:15 pm
@Tacitus:
Simple democracy dictates that majority sentiment rules. One cannot have democracy any other way.
If you do not espouse to democratic principles then its simple, become socialist or communist, after all minority rule basically denotes such practices and did so in this country for all of 46 or so years, and it was those particular insular non democratic principles which almost brought this country to its knees.
You have a rather short memory span after all. Seems you forget the fear ridden police state of emergency this poor country was subject to under some of Jan’s forebears.
12 Mar 2010, 21:29 pm
521. Black Panther:
I had a chuckle about your subtle ear reference…. nice one!
Of course you’re right we all have the odd arsehole but they don’t define the game.
“When I speak rugby with my Brit/Irish/Euro mates in London, they say Fitzy “IS rugby” – please don’t prop up your position with the opinions of a bunch of drunkards in a Covent Garden piss-house. What do they know?
I wonder if Colin “Pinetree” Meads would really shake his hand despite him missing a bit of ear material.. he made a bit of a show of it.
I think not.
12 Mar 2010, 21:38 pm
Grrr…
Once a Lion, always a Lion mate – they will be back.
Tac,
When I have profound moments like that it is usually after 2 bottles of red.
The next morning I am left thinking wtf I was thinking…
12 Mar 2010, 21:42 pm
518. poppa69:
I think we’re at a bit of a crossroads in our game.
Regulate the **** out of it or let the players regulate it, Too clinical poofter game or a bit of rucking to keep the lads on the right side of the loose maul. Difficult call really. The game has an image to uphold and mommy sees Johnny coming home with a few “grass-burns” on him doesn’t help the cause. I reckon we have to go back to our roots and let the old rucking back in. It didn’t hurt much girlfriend kissed me better. I got worse scrapes off skate-board.
12 Mar 2010, 21:44 pm
@skopskiet:
Fair, though predictable, response.
And yet,if Jan and Elton each owned half of a farm, is it then undemocratic if 50 years later, their descendants still own half of the farm each. Jan’s 4 descendants will then have as much of a say over the farm as Elton’s 36 descendants.
Are you unhappy with that setup too?
12 Mar 2010, 21:48 pm
The Lions are a disgrace. This **** is going on year after year and there is NO improvement. SARU should take charge of a fifth SA franchise and contract players and the best coaches for that team to be established. FFS, all our teams should at least be competitive. The Lions and Cheetahs are so poor when playing overseas that it`s really not worthwhile watching them.
12 Mar 2010, 22:05 pm
@filthy Luca: @526
and what makes your opinion more valid than than the Covent Garden neutrals ?
Fitzy was tough, mentally and he was no angel. But I never once saw him attack another players eyes; kick a players head; repeatedly attack opposition with body armour nor illegally take a player out of all rugby for 6mths.
Nor, for that matter, as Captain did he ever once disgrace the National jersey with a display of self-serving righteousness via an armband.
12 Mar 2010, 22:08 pm
529. Tacitus
OK so we’re off the rugby then.
Hello Tac – sorry to be blunt but you have a dumb argument.
Elton is a pillow biter so he won’t have any descendents. Let us assume however that he overcomes this problem and manages in some imaginative way to procreate and he hits the 36 descendant mark and poor old “sorry about the low sperm count” Jan is still on 4. It should be clear to you that Elton’s descendants will nip over the wall and slaughter Jan’s offspring.
Come on buddy we’ve been doing it since time began – let’s not let logic or sentiment get in the way of a bit of the old “lebensraum” / ” we need a bit of oil” / “they’ve got some ‘orrible weppins” (sorry my best cockney) excuse. Don’t pontificate unless you’re a pontiff – and … oh bugger I’m reminding me of my dad.
12 Mar 2010, 22:14 pm
@Tacitus:
Using your example:
In a socialist state Jan’s descendants (with a bit of luck) might each have a 10% share in a farm (4/40)
In a communist state they might have no share in any farm – neither would Elton’s (why such a *** name?)
In a free democracy there are lots of possibilities – Elton’s descendants might vote someone into power who gives them each a farm but if Jan’s descendants become good good party members and businessmen they might eventually buy them out and end up owing all the farms.
It’s your choice – there are advantages and disadvantages in each and every choice.
12 Mar 2010, 22:20 pm
531. Black Panther:
OK BP, you’re right – Sean never got caught stomping anybody but I think that has more to do with his being a savvy and streetwise player than any sense of decorum. Look rather to your real legends, Jones & co. Those were the real ABs that we loved and maybe dare I say it – respected….
12 Mar 2010, 22:20 pm
@Robzim:
Why unnecessarily bring socialism into this. If pure democracy is followed, then China and India should rule the world, as they outnumber everyone else.
But they don’t. New Zealand – with their paltry 4 million people decide for themselves what they want to do in their area. Same applies to the Netherlands, and Mauritius and Fiji. They don’t ask the majority (the Chinese) how to run their own lives.
Same principle should apply within countries as well.
12 Mar 2010, 22:23 pm
I’m afraid its time to join the sad Lions with the Cheetahs’ to make the ***** Cats so the Southern Kings can have a go. The Lion’s culture of battling their inability to believe to win games, year in year out we are promised of a new tide, every Currie Cup, they seem to give us false hope,, only to fail. I would love to know how much money has been spent on this Franchise since breaking away from the Cheetahs’ all those loyal Lion supporters will say money well spent, (all I can say to them love is blind), I say money thrown down the tube. If they had invested in the Southern Spears/Kings Franchise when they started I think we would be seeing more positive results fro the South African sides. The rugby pool of players is just so bigger in this region. I also think we wouldn’t be sitting here watching the Melbourne rebels scouting our shores with the lure of the Aussie Dollar taking our players off to Australia. Let’s get the franchise system representing South Africa and forget this Dutch style loyalty grow the Franchise Brands ,, away from their Currie Cup sides.
12 Mar 2010, 22:27 pm
@Thistle:
There is only 1 thing keeping rugby going in this country – the traditional passion for rugby in certain core communities. That passion is tied intricately to the identification and association with provinces that go back for decades. Break that link, destroy the traditional rugby culture, and you just have the demise of EP all over again, but this time on a national scale.
12 Mar 2010, 22:31 pm
@filthy Luca: @534
with the greatest of respect, I dont give a sh*t who you respect or not. Fitzy is a Legend and the greatest hooker to ever play the game. And he wore the Black jersey with pride and no little respect for it and its peoples either.
12 Mar 2010, 22:36 pm
clearly elton’s descendants are going to vote somebody into power who will give them jan’s descendants share of the farm…
by which time everybody (jan’s and elton’s descendants included) will be very hungry indeed…
12 Mar 2010, 22:40 pm
Hmmmmmm Tacitus, we need a change in the SA Franchises, we can not continue throwing money at the Lion’s; Jake was there they’ve got **** all they need is Jane , then they’ have ****, Jake & Jane.. and they will get the same results,, all I’m saying there is potential new market out there and the new franchise will start afresh. If you talk about EP, I was down there a while back and was amazed to see that they’re turning it around all be it slowly. I believe for the first time in years they have approached Grey High School to see if they can not keep some of their youngsters in the region. Cheeky even though not liked much in the other regions is getting business involved with rugby again. I don’t think anyone can deny EP previously were corrupt and ran the Union into the ground, hell I think one of their presidents still has charges pending for Lotto monies that was misappropriated. However with a new franchise down there would be a separate business, run like a business, a new beginning. I don’t see the Lions ever getting that winning feeling; SARU should be strong and make the correct decision, kill the poor Lion Franchise once and for all. Hell hunting season isn’t far off,,, time to get the rifles out .. bang bang.
12 Mar 2010, 22:40 pm
537. Tacitus
Agree absolutely
I think however that there is still room to move forward and create new allegiances which over time would attract the same passion. I for one would like to see a strong union in the Eastern Cape – preferably something not involving regurgitation in the rugby jersey area.
Can you imagine what that would bring to the game in this country?
We have all the talent, I just wonder sometimes how much dominance we could really have in world rugby if we used it to full potential.
12 Mar 2010, 22:49 pm
Jan’s folks owned a farm eyi eyi o, and on this farm they raised some chicks and ducks and geese and pigs and cattle, eyi eyi o.
Now why would Jan’s folks want to share their farm with Elton’s folks?
Jan’s folks inherited their farm from their Vry Burgher ancestors who came from far removed distant northern cold lands in search of peace and prosperity to a foreign land which was not theirs at all to begin with, when for some or other reason their sovereign state monarchies had had enough of their hungry mouths to feed and spat them out of their European civilized sovereignty’s laps.
And they were encouraged to go forth and multiply and colonize the earth for their shrinking and avarice enticed power hungry monarchs greedy colonization desires back home.
Now Jan’s folks were a cross bred cultural off shoot from the remnants of some indigenous inhabitants mixed together with the wayward seed of the wild oats sown by some of Jan’s ancestral family members who couldn’t keep their pants on and were simply tired of repeatedly sowing their tame oats amongst their own cousins and family once or twice removed, so the spice of attraction in sowing some wild oat seeds amongst the indigenous folk resulted and determined the birth of mixed bred cultures partly of Jan’s own heritage and partly from indigenous stock, and also partly from slaves that Jan’s enlightened forebears had captured in the far east and brought unwillingly all the way to this forlorn and colonized land against their will to serve hand and foot to Jan’s ancestors whims and fancy’s.
But Jan’s forebears couldn’t or wouldn’t multiply quite as vociferously or ferociously as Elton’s forebears did, because they tried or where tied to following in the wake of the good book that was their well endowed hereditary birthright to read and imbibe the good principles of less lust and more pure bred continence.
Hence Elton’s descendants soon enough out grew those of Jan’s in number but were banished into homelands and council housing estate schemes to keep them poor and downtrodden as long as Jan’s descendants carried the whip and read the riot act and called all the minority ruled shots.
Sooner or later the simple imbalance of the out of sinc state of affairs could not sustain the sham of minority domination any longer and Elton’s and Sipho’s and Nzimande’s folks reaching desire for humane recognition and self determination, just as Jan’s ancestors had felt same similar needs before, took over the fickle stage of make believe democracy and started turning the tables.
Now Jan’s folks have their aging farm enshrined in the annals of family tradition and heritage all the way from their roots in northern europe, while Elton’s and Sipho’s folks are eager to learn to sow some oats of their own in due course.
I wonder if lessons learned by Jan’s folks might wear off on the experiences and evolution of Elton’s folks. What do you think?
12 Mar 2010, 22:53 pm
@Tacitus:
#535
I think what you are proposing is more or less what the Nats took to the negotiation tables before 1994 – they wanted a vote for everyone but because of the diversity of SA they also wanted each identifiable nation or group having it’s own political power-base and political structures.
So basically they wanted a one man one vote for each own institution plus a scheme where joint responsibility could be taken with regard to common matters with self determination of each group within it’s own structures and group powerbase.
Or something like that.
The whole idea got shot down in flames during the negotiations as u know.
12 Mar 2010, 23:00 pm
538. Black Panther
Heheheh
Nice response BP – unfortunately he was a nob on the field and all the rightous indignation you can muster will not take that away. as far as being the greatest hooker is concerned, even Bismarck who is a bit of a chop himself would eat him for breakfast. I have no doubt that he wore the AB jersey with lots of pride unfortunately little honour and therin lies the problem. He brought some success but at what price.
He besmirched the AB tradition of honesty in the game and you can piss about with it as much as you want but there is little respect for this lad in my neck of the woods.
Sorry to be blunt about this BP but really I think even Jeff Wilson was a straighter guy even if he did like a bit of bum.
12 Mar 2010, 23:03 pm
Scrapping the Loins and giving the franchise to the Spares won’t work either. The player base in the South/Eastern Cape are totally allergic to tackling and that’s why they always come stone last in the Vodacup and CurrieCup watered-down championships.
Those big, hard-running Polynesians will canter in with about 30 tries a match and turn the whole charade into a cricket score.
To win rugby games, you must be able to tackle.
12 Mar 2010, 23:12 pm
Oh it’s you again – anything nice to say about South Africa / South Africans?
Thought not – why don’t you just piss off and crawl back under your rock until you have valuable comment?
Come on Tickler, say something interesting….
12 Mar 2010, 23:18 pm
I keep telling you dissemblers and reprobates — to win you absolutely have to be The Tackler. Nothing, but nothing, is ever more important than TACKLING!
If you can tackle, you can do pretty much anything. (Well, grouting tiles or mowing lawns may be excepted…)
But, if you can’t tackle, you’re pretty much totally screwed. Ask **** Muir — he’ll tell you.
Eleven tries conceded!
12 Mar 2010, 23:32 pm
547. TheTackler
Aaah yes I see the problem now – an obsession wth “tackle”,
Stop interfering with yourself, leave your tackle alone for a minute and focus on the rugby.
If you knew anything about the sport in this country you would know that the Eastern Cape is the nursery for our big unions. Young players if kept in the region would build a great union -it has nothing to do with you and your onanism. Please go away now Tickler unless you have a constructive comment – there must be one in that mess somewhere…
12 Mar 2010, 23:40 pm
@TheTackler:
You sound like a devoted disciple of the Alister Coetzee’s school of rugby.
TEKKEL!!!
12 Mar 2010, 23:41 pm
Anybody online?
12 Mar 2010, 23:46 pm
550. SpringbokSarah
Hello Sarah,
I would imagine you are quite happy with your Stormers by now?
The incredible Schalk seems to be back – what’s the sentiment in CT at the moment, is he back in favour?
13 Mar 2010, 00:02 am
I am utterly disgusted by this!!
The mighty Lions (who would have been favourites to take the title this year) have just been robbed of certain victory by an incompetent linesman. This can not go unpunished!! I want to see heads roll for this.
The Lions were in the process of mounting a massive comeback, certain to result in victory, when they were stopped in their tracks by one of the worst calls by a linesman in the history of rugby union. Drew Mitchell had basically caught the ball while running through the fourth row of seating at the SFS before passing it back into an unmarked support player who managed to then use the linesman (who had somehow failed to raise his flag) as a shield against the defence allowing him to race away and score.
This pivotal moment ended not only the Lions thoughts of victory in this game but also their title aspirations.
The Lions started well and were dominating the contest through their powerful and controlling pack. The brilliant Carlos Spenser had gained total control of play with a series of breathtaking sniping runs and passes which had left the Horrortahs defense in tatters. Yet, despite this supremacy, the Lions were left with little to show on the scoreboard due to a series of baffling interpretations by a blatently bias and incompetent ANZAC ref. The fact that the Tahs were even able to register a point in this match only goes to show the level of influence the referee had on proceedings.
Vinny Munro and his associates must be removed from officiating any further matches. He and his ANZAC mates have delivered a hammer blow to SA Rugby and this cannot go unpunished. In an era where Rugby Union is competing against a range of other sports for crowds and television dollars, a team like the Lions, that brings grace a beauty to this heavenly game, cannot be allowed to go unrewarded for the sort of ground breaking display we had the pleasure of witnessing last night.
I appeal to SANZAR to rectify this situation. At the very least the Lions should be granted a re-match. I am confident the Horrortahs would have no objection to this given that they must be equally dissapointed by the hollow victory. I call upon fellow Lions fans to take up this cause and petition SANZAR. There is strength in our numbers and we must fight the evil that has crucified our beloved Lions.
13 Mar 2010, 00:04 am
Jeez the Lions could do better. The tahs defence is all over them with no chance to move. Nobody is on the cut back ball.
Shocking reffing again.
Carlos
welcome to playing in a Saffa side.
Thats right swear at the cheating ref. You know whats going on boy.
All the marginal calls going for the Tahs again.
Crossing may ***,
yet the Tahs score two tries from even more blatant crossing with the wrecking ball running in front of the ball and tackling TClever.
Near the end, nice hand in the ruck to pull the ball back and then the tahs players foot was on the line.
The lions were poor but with some clever reffing you dont allow them in the game.
The Tahs are ****, need help 2 games in a row.
You cannot put your hand on the ground at scrum time!
Hope the reds are the Aussie side in the semis,
becos if they dont the seats will be empty in OZ and S14 will fail.
Shame really that the Saffas kop it though. No balls in our management.
13 Mar 2010, 00:06 am
@filthy Luca: 551.. Schalk is on probation for the next 20 games… 1 swallow does not make a summer.. 2 great games in 5years means that you are more fake than real… In fact he probably had no more than 10 good games in his whole career.. But being a pin-up for the KKK gives you priviledges beyond believe
13 Mar 2010, 00:13 am
It is time to face up to reality.There are only a number
of real quality rugby players in South Africa.We have
seen on the EOYT if they dont pitch up, the Boks are in
trouble.
Over the past couple of years the Lions have been leaking
point and players due to poor management en even poorer
acquisitions. Why on earth this union always bents over to
give players of other unions a change ,like Rose beats me.
They are unable to hang to players like Ludick,Deysel,
Mostert,Kockott,Fourie, Wepener,Reyneke,Habana, Fourie, Jantjies ,Brits the list is endless.
So if they are in for a hiding against the Crusaders, dont
blame the players, they dont select themselves, blame the
Management who let this once proud Union go to the dogs
through mismanagement.
13 Mar 2010, 00:20 am
The kiwis have a small player base yet produce quality rugby. If some one is good at what they do, do the Chinese, and copy them.
We really should replace the Lions management with competant team. Muir I think is overrated and his compulsion to keep switching players are going to cost them.
Why o why do we have to suffer every year like this?
13 Mar 2010, 00:45 am
@filthy Luca: hey. Ja they’ve been alright
ja Schalk is a Newlands favourite
13 Mar 2010, 01:04 am
@TheTackler: 545 so explain how the Chiefs one of NZ’s great (false) hopes to win the Super 14 managed to concede 65 points to this Lions team, must have been all that great tackling…
13 Mar 2010, 02:39 am
@TheTackler:
545
Interesting that Tricky Dicky Muir, not a slouch tackler in his playing days insists on keep picking Rose and Shavanga who are suitable for WP Liga type of touch rugby but not for a 1st class rugby, they never tackle although they fake many
13 Mar 2010, 02:41 am
@Big Hit:
558
Jet lag and altitude,,
lol
13 Mar 2010, 02:51 am
@The Almighty Shaun:
Why is Burger a pin-up for the KKK? Because he isn’t a colored?
Some of the rubbish that gets posted on here…
13 Mar 2010, 02:56 am
@skopskiet:
542
Elton’s forbears migrated to South Africa themselves, “displacing” Witbooi’s forbears. So who belongs here least? Jan or Elton?
13 Mar 2010, 03:00 am
@Agile ***-Tyrant:
Most middleclass Eltons want retribution and the luxury consumerism, Jans’ will be just happy to find peace at this stage.
13 Mar 2010, 03:48 am
@jeest: Funniest thing I’ve read all week!
13 Mar 2010, 05:36 am
Well done Todd Clever
One yankee played his heart out for a saffa team
13 Mar 2010, 06:20 am
Last year, Rose and Sephaka made false allegations against the Forwards coach involved sensetive issue
The coach lost his job despite the allegations proved a lie.
Rose and Sephaka were not held accountable for their act and the Lions moved on.
The lack of action by the management against Rose and Sephake might prove to be the undoing of the Lions union.
13 Mar 2010, 06:40 am
The Eastern Cape isn’t the nursery for ANY greatness in SA rugby. Even their very best school U19A teams usually get totally creamed by all the usual heavy-hitters: Grey Bloem, SACS, Affies, Paarl, Glenwood, Monnas, Bishops, Wynberg, Maritzburg, KES, … you name it.
Their bush-college university teams — if they even field any — are worse than useless.
All three their senior provincial teams (SWD.EP,Border) are cellar-dwelling rubbish who lose almost everything.
They’re a nursery of utter mediocrity.
It’s like choosing the Dux of the School for the Intellectually-Disabled (i.e. the Cabbage Class)
Get real.
13 Mar 2010, 06:49 am
The Loins ought be be excellent — outstanding schools, several ace rugby universities, vast bags of money, terrifying altitude for visitors to adjust to, a grim, seedy city way too scary to move out of your hotel if you are visiting, and crushingly boring if you’re dumb enough to take the risk anyway …
13 Mar 2010, 06:49 am
O magtag… ek dog dit was net n nagmerrie, nou sien ek dis waar! Die Lions het verloor!
13 Mar 2010, 06:57 am
Stephen Jones will take this scoreline and single-handedly argue, how **** S14 is… nevermind about S15.
13 Mar 2010, 07:06 am
Now for the theorist in me… Are the Lions crash test dummies?
The Lions have absolutely no defensive plan (other than Clever and LeGrange) so it has to be an attack plan. Score enough tries and hopefully a win will eventuate. It’s a good way to prove to the masses that STRUCTURE is a must.
PDV knows it, we all know it. Do we all have to be bludgeoned with these BS scorelines.
How good is Doppes?
Clever is tearing this season up. Go Yank you’re on fire.
13 Mar 2010, 07:53 am
You’ll lose every time if you can’t tackle.
That immutable law applies to those poor sad and puny little 8am wintery dew-scraper kiddies at the bottom-of-the-barrel playing their tiny guts out at U9F level and all the way up to the mega-athletes playing for the glory of their country and its people.
Can’t tackle?
Can’t win.
Like **** Muir’s poor little Loins.
They surely could use a few Joggie Jansens and Brian Limas, and with a wee sprinkling of the sort of entirely loopy-mad fearlessness of a Schalk Burger and a little bit of Josh Kronfeld mixed in…
The Loins might not be sweating their puny chicken-little fat on the S14 grill each and every weekend, hey?
They could just possibly be out there, roaring and being really quite scary?
But they’re not.
13 Mar 2010, 08:28 am
Hows this for Karma.. **** Muir “offers” his services to PDV.. with no history of ever being benevolent or supportive of black advancement.
History shows us that he dismissed black talent more than he recognised it. The deduction is therefore that he wanted to sneak in as bok coach if PDV failed.. He was looking to scavenge his way to greatness.
He presents a fantastic example of closet bigotry that requires a massive amount sliminess and dishonesty.. But that dishonesty starts to eat into you until it annialates you completely.. You try to look at means of redemption.. but its like battling drug addiction.. There is a point that you want to get away from it… but you are tempted to resume your addiction with every breath you take…
13 Mar 2010, 08:49 am
@Black Panther: Fu@k you and your references to “body armour”. Lets get it straight- its a bit of SPONGE. Get the fu@k over it. The way you go on about it, you would swear its a hidden samurai sword…
13 Mar 2010, 08:51 am
@The Almighty Shaun: ..and PDV shows his intelligence and decides that **** is his man??
13 Mar 2010, 08:56 am
@SjamBok: Yep, Rocky said he had played with Victor and against him… definitely sponge and strapping.
The strapping on Victors arm is really no different to head-gear. Players wear it to soften the impact of knocks to the head and to avoid cuts. If a player has an history of injury (break) then the strapping is a cushion.
13 Mar 2010, 08:57 am
@JL1: More of keep your enemies closer… but then again I don’t buy into that BS.. Annialate them!!!
13 Mar 2010, 09:02 am
@RugbyRulz: Is the strapping on his arm rather like a shin guard…
13 Mar 2010, 09:03 am
@The Almighty Shaun: …and you practise what you preach
I reckon your blog persona is actually different form the your real life persona and this is your bit of escapism from your wife, kids and ex wives
13 Mar 2010, 09:08 am
@JL1: I like to tee up before I strike… but in terms of persona.. I really am a nice chap 8)
I have a large circle of friends.. who understand that I am decisive and brutal with the truth
13 Mar 2010, 09:10 am
@The Almighty Shaun: Strapping on Victor’ arm is no different to a player wearing headgear.
But I already said that!
Don’t go looking to flame up something that is not there. Victor is aggressive, hard and smart. He is not an enforcer.
13 Mar 2010, 09:14 am
Bang Bang, hunting season is just around the corner may the Lions rest in peace.. SARU must have the balls to rid the Gauteng Province of the Lions…
13 Mar 2010, 09:15 am
@The Almighty Shaun: You hide away from the truth. Your kids are Poms and you fight a so called liberation fight from afar, with a Samsung phone, bwhahahahaha
You cannot handle the truth as old Nicholson said
13 Mar 2010, 09:15 am
I think but for the cheating ref and the bounce of the ball the Lions did enough to win…….Not!!!!
13 Mar 2010, 09:17 am
@RugbyRulz: Unlike Shaun, who is soft and a soccer player
13 Mar 2010, 09:18 am
@RugbyRulz: It is a an arm guard like a shin guard… It has plastic reinforcing.. Plastic that is hard enough to withstand massive impact.. It is cover by a soft layer.. but it does strenthen the arm. Now if it is to be used to shield against accidental impact then we need to consider how that accidental impact will occur. The fact is that Victor uses his arms in tackles which are not accidental.. This does raise questions about intent.
13 Mar 2010, 09:22 am
@The Almighty Shaun: hey aren’t you the guy who’s x wife gave testament here on Keo of what type of human being you are….
no use trying to tell us what type of person you are…
we already know….
remember… the success outside your marriage doesn’t make up for the loss inside the marriage…
advice to you… start being humble….
nuff said about you…
13 Mar 2010, 09:22 am
@JL1: How do I hide away from the truth.. You know who I am. My CV is there for all to see. Some of the bloggers here have met me and some are my facebook friends… Now tells us about yourself mate.. is there a self???
13 Mar 2010, 09:26 am
@Wikus van der Merwe: Is that your real name… or have you stolen another nic. Come on now… show us that you are not one of those pussies that come here to display their ignorance
13 Mar 2010, 09:29 am
Lions have lost too many players
1. Kockott
2. Deysel
3. Habana
4. Jacque Fourie
5. Willem Alberts
6. Jacques
7. Ludik
etc etc etc
13 Mar 2010, 09:31 am
@The Almighty Shaun: What do you wanna know?
13 Mar 2010, 09:32 am
590 JL 1 ,, all they have to loose is the franchise now..
13 Mar 2010, 09:37 am
@Wikus van der Merwe: The one and only.
The “MAN” that was made to face the truth by his ex-wife
13 Mar 2010, 09:37 am
The Legend that is Earl Rose delivered on his Supersport advert…”Predict what I am going to do next…” Earl I would reckon you are going to take your place behind the goal post…again…just a prediction…
13 Mar 2010, 09:40 am
@Thistle: They will never recover form something like that
Loffie allowed many players to leave the union without putting up a fight
13 Mar 2010, 09:40 am
@JL1: Lets work this out about soccer players.. They billions, Have better looking chics, have massive business empires, etc.. Rugby player have fkup ears and get off on aggro.. Now please explain why you believe that rugby players are better off??
13 Mar 2010, 09:42 am
@The Almighty Shaun: 586
I am thinking JL1 is correct, you Shaun are a round-ball-man. If you had played rugby or indeed any real contact sport you would have seen or man-handled head-gear and strapping (as seen on Victor’ arm)
Head-gear for Rugby is made of various synthetic fabric (eg neoprene) with foam (sponge padding) and has NO hard plastic reinforcement.
Go to any sport store and check out the equipment yourself.
13 Mar 2010, 09:43 am
@The Almighty Shaun: 596..Should read.. they make billions
13 Mar 2010, 09:43 am
@The Almighty Shaun: 596
Hmmm now let me enlighten you from the female perspective.
Soccer players lack the quality rugby men possess in spades.
LEG DRIVE
13 Mar 2010, 09:44 am
@The Almighty Shaun: Class!! Money cannot buy class, you of all people should know that
13 Mar 2010, 09:49 am
@JL1: Money can buy class!!! Just imagine Earl buys himself a proper ‘safari pak’ wif a ‘kam innie kous’
13 Mar 2010, 09:54 am
@RugbyRulz: 597.. I am just a normal intelligent person who has many interest… I can strip an engine, write about economics, I have a great interest in organisational dynamics and I am super hot at Excel. Great writing skills and I have an above average understanding of commercial law… Played, coached and administered in football. Also played Baseball and tennis( not really good) but I am decent at squash… I also have a great interest the organisational dynamics of rugby. It is a strange sport that requires constant change to keep it relevant as a world sport while it battles to sell its initial agenda of White supremacy
13 Mar 2010, 09:59 am
@The Almighty Shaun: 602
I too am quite accomplished in many ways, but do not feel the impulse to prostitute myself here.
Dude you are way too caught up with the skin you’re in. Man I couldn’t give a rats ar$e about anyone trying to trivialise Rugby by trying to taint the game with racism.
You certainly need to find a barrow worth pushing because the grip you have on the handle is coming up short.
13 Mar 2010, 10:02 am
@JL1: 600..Luckily I am not classist.. so that is beneath me
@RugbyRulz: Leg drive?? There lies your problem.. Its pelvic thrust thats more important.. unless you are a bigger woman
.. but let me not be judgemental 8)
13 Mar 2010, 10:07 am
@RugbyRulz: 603.. Your poetry is wonderful.. but it does not counter my argument about Rugby’s dilemma
13 Mar 2010, 10:10 am
@The Almighty Shaun: 605
In Your Humble Opinion, Rugby has a dilemma;!I do not agree with your view.
We can agree to disagree.
13 Mar 2010, 10:11 am
Anyhooo Shorks and Brumbies up within the hour, have a pleasant day ya’ll.
13 Mar 2010, 10:14 am
@RugbyRulz: 606..Copout??
13 Mar 2010, 10:23 am
@The Almighty Shaun:
Good grief, we do love yourselves don’t we?! You sound like the type of guy I would chew my own arm of to get away from at a bar…
13 Mar 2010, 10:25 am
Ourselves…. and off… a EDIT button would be nice.
Anyway, it’s a new day and I still feel the same as yesterday.
GO STORMERS!
13 Mar 2010, 10:26 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE: Bwhahahahaha!!
13 Mar 2010, 10:27 am
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: The presumption is that you are female… I don’t chat up woman at a bar.. It tends to be the other way around.. My friends call me magneto
13 Mar 2010, 10:30 am
@The Almighty Shaun: @602 you wouldn’t know an organisational dynamic if it bit you on the arse. Only thing you’re good for is counting bricks and complaining about white people being superior
13 Mar 2010, 10:31 am
@The Almighty Shaun:
Ag, I will just call you d**s.
13 Mar 2010, 10:32 am
@Big Hit: cant help yourself can you Biggles, does anything good rugby wise ever come out of NZ?
I think youll find most kiwis were gracious enough to admit that the 2003 English side were the best at the time, yet in my 3 years here I dont think Ive ever heard you mention NZ in a positive light.. have you even been to NZ, a true rugby mad country?
where people live and breathe the game? where every kid wants to grow up to be an AB, and at any school you will invariably see kids kicking or running with a rugby ball? not the round version you guys fawn over?
or is it the fact that a country with a population probably smaller then half the size of London continually serves your pretenders a plate of whoop @rse…
13 Mar 2010, 10:39 am
@Grrrr….I used to be a Lion!: whaever
@Porto: Havn’t counted bricks for a while.. 52 imperial in m2.. single skin.. 104 in 1bk wl.. Ah.. now I remember.. can’t remember the concrete mixes.. but I always get confused with it.. is 6:2:1. 10MPA
13 Mar 2010, 10:42 am
@The Almighty Shaun: Love the restraint. Is this a newer, more mature Shaun (sic)?
13 Mar 2010, 21:52 pm
Victors armblade is “a bit of sponge”
yeah, right. It’s reinforced poly-plastic weaponry no less. Matfields arm injury was 7yrs ago, WTF does he still need it for ? Cory Flynn has broken both arms, many times, and check out what he was wearing in the Crusaders v Chiefs match – nothing other than normal strapping !
Matfield is a thug, no less. Try telling Kelleher & Elsom, to name just 2 of the most obvious egs, that it’s just ‘sponge’.
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