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		<title>By: SjamBok(SjamBok)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1619021</link>
		<dc:creator>SjamBok(SjamBok)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 11:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1618764&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)-18&lt;/a&gt;: Beacause frankly the Bok 7&#039;s have reverted to form and have been dismal this year. The sheer number of unforced errors alone this year have sunk them. I dont like watching losers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1618764" rel="nofollow">Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)-18</a>: Beacause frankly the Bok 7&#8242;s have reverted to form and have been dismal this year. The sheer number of unforced errors alone this year have sunk them. I dont like watching losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1618764</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 01:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1618332&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sevens fan(Sevens fan)-17&lt;/a&gt;: 

Why do you think this article only has 20+ replies?  No one cares.  I&#039;d have to question your mental state if you actually get excited for 7s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1618332" rel="nofollow">Sevens fan(Sevens fan)-17</a>: </p>
<p>Why do you think this article only has 20+ replies?  No one cares.  I&#8217;d have to question your mental state if you actually get excited for 7s.</p>
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		<title>By: Sevens fan(Sevens fan)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1618332</link>
		<dc:creator>Sevens fan(Sevens fan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kobus, you&#039;re ignorant, my friend.  You&#039;re entitled to your opinion, but to project it like you do here is boorish and insulting to an entire sport which you claim to support.  

I agree that Sevens is the smaller version of the game.  I agree that the way it is set up, the guys playing it are not the premier 7 available to their country.  But within the next 6 years, you will be able to pick the best 15s players from each country, and they will lose to the best 7s players, such is the degree of specialization in the game.  It&#039;s not there yet, but by the 2016 Olympics, it will be.  So you need to see it as two games, specialists playing each.  So if your opinion is that any sport (cricket, hockey, netball, swimming) is a joke, then fine, you&#039;re one-dimensional.  But if you&#039;re saying it&#039;s a joke because you&#039;re comparing to 15s, then you&#039;re ignorant.  I&#039;m back that second option.

It also happens to be growing magnitudes faster than 15s (for example, viewership of S14 in NZ is down 25%, and in SA, down 5% year-on-year, continuing to fall).  It&#039;s now at the same level world-wide as 15s because it&#039;s viewed in more territories than 15s. So I&#039;m afraid not &quot;everyone knows it&quot;, just you and your solar system, of which you&#039;re the only star.

Historically, Sevens has been under-represented by the media and the authorities of the sport.  In fact, just last week, I sat in an IRB meeting to discuss the future of the game, and it&#039;s clear that there are two camps - those who adhere to your camp (though not as boorish), and those who recognize the unique entity of the game of sevens, which has a right to not be called a &#039;joke&#039;.  

Besides, I reckon you&#039;re so ignorant about the game you probably don&#039;t know why you&#039;re calling it a joke, other than the fact that 15s has always been marketed to you and you didn&#039;t come across 7s until later, once you were &#039;converted&#039;.  Your opinion is thus a consequence of what others have told you to believe, which means it&#039;s of no consequence to me.

If you made it this far, well done.

As for SA, to the guy talking about flash-in-the-pan, yeah, it&#039;s been a bad year for SA, but take Cama, Forbes, Lawrence and Raikabula out of the NZ team for reasons of injury and Super 14, and let&#039;s see how they get on.  Turnover of players is simply too high to sustain success when the union picks players OUT of Sevens.  In that system, success, by definition, means future failure as the churn is so high.  NZ, Samoa haven&#039;t had this problem for the last 3 years, hence their success. Aus and England do.  And apart from that, we haven&#039;t had the quality, so we (SA) are where we deserve to be this year.  Simple equation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kobus, you&#8217;re ignorant, my friend.  You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, but to project it like you do here is boorish and insulting to an entire sport which you claim to support.  </p>
<p>I agree that Sevens is the smaller version of the game.  I agree that the way it is set up, the guys playing it are not the premier 7 available to their country.  But within the next 6 years, you will be able to pick the best 15s players from each country, and they will lose to the best 7s players, such is the degree of specialization in the game.  It&#8217;s not there yet, but by the 2016 Olympics, it will be.  So you need to see it as two games, specialists playing each.  So if your opinion is that any sport (cricket, hockey, netball, swimming) is a joke, then fine, you&#8217;re one-dimensional.  But if you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s a joke because you&#8217;re comparing to 15s, then you&#8217;re ignorant.  I&#8217;m back that second option.</p>
<p>It also happens to be growing magnitudes faster than 15s (for example, viewership of S14 in NZ is down 25%, and in SA, down 5% year-on-year, continuing to fall).  It&#8217;s now at the same level world-wide as 15s because it&#8217;s viewed in more territories than 15s. So I&#8217;m afraid not &#8220;everyone knows it&#8221;, just you and your solar system, of which you&#8217;re the only star.</p>
<p>Historically, Sevens has been under-represented by the media and the authorities of the sport.  In fact, just last week, I sat in an IRB meeting to discuss the future of the game, and it&#8217;s clear that there are two camps &#8211; those who adhere to your camp (though not as boorish), and those who recognize the unique entity of the game of sevens, which has a right to not be called a &#8216;joke&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Besides, I reckon you&#8217;re so ignorant about the game you probably don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re calling it a joke, other than the fact that 15s has always been marketed to you and you didn&#8217;t come across 7s until later, once you were &#8216;converted&#8217;.  Your opinion is thus a consequence of what others have told you to believe, which means it&#8217;s of no consequence to me.</p>
<p>If you made it this far, well done.</p>
<p>As for SA, to the guy talking about flash-in-the-pan, yeah, it&#8217;s been a bad year for SA, but take Cama, Forbes, Lawrence and Raikabula out of the NZ team for reasons of injury and Super 14, and let&#8217;s see how they get on.  Turnover of players is simply too high to sustain success when the union picks players OUT of Sevens.  In that system, success, by definition, means future failure as the churn is so high.  NZ, Samoa haven&#8217;t had this problem for the last 3 years, hence their success. Aus and England do.  And apart from that, we haven&#8217;t had the quality, so we (SA) are where we deserve to be this year.  Simple equation.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1(nama1)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617769</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[90 minutes and counting.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1617758&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fern(Fern)-8&lt;/a&gt;: 

Shhh, lets not get aggressive.  I like my rugby when tries actually mean something.  7s is a joke, everyone knows it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1617758" rel="nofollow">Fern(Fern)-8</a>: </p>
<p>Shhh, lets not get aggressive.  I like my rugby when tries actually mean something.  7s is a joke, everyone knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: Partizan(Partizan)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617766</link>
		<dc:creator>Partizan(Partizan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fern, how is touring europe going? Exceeding all expectations I hope]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fern, how is touring europe going? Exceeding all expectations I hope</p>
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		<title>By: brendon(brendon)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617765</link>
		<dc:creator>brendon(brendon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 hours to go and not a peep from the keo backup singers!

what&#039;s the deal???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 hours to go and not a peep from the keo backup singers!</p>
<p>what&#8217;s the deal???</p>
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		<title>By: nama1(nama1)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617763</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1(nama1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[150 minutes to go.

Why can&#039;t we have a thread NOW???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>150 minutes to go.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we have a thread NOW???</p>
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		<title>By: Fern(Fern)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617761</link>
		<dc:creator>Fern(Fern)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support the Bokke in the 7&#039;s and my second team is Kenya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the Bokke in the 7&#8242;s and my second team is Kenya.</p>
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		<title>By: Treehugger(Treehugger)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617760</link>
		<dc:creator>Treehugger(Treehugger)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO keo people, think you should put up the game thread, this is no willynilly little game, wakeywakey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO keo people, think you should put up the game thread, this is no willynilly little game, wakeywakey.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit(Big Hit)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617759</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit(Big Hit)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1617755&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheTackler(TheTackler)-6&lt;/a&gt;: like I said, 6 in a row in the head to head and ahead in the series, Samoa would be comfortable favourites]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1617755" rel="nofollow">TheTackler(TheTackler)-6</a>: like I said, 6 in a row in the head to head and ahead in the series, Samoa would be comfortable favourites</p>
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		<title>By: Fern(Fern)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617758</link>
		<dc:creator>Fern(Fern)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1617756&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)-7&lt;/a&gt;: 
you pharkin idiot.sevens rugby is a form of rugby in it&#039;s own right and has helped develop the skills of lots of rugby players.
btw the Bokke are playing in this tournament as well,or are the team to black for you?
you are embarresment to white bluebull supporters just as julius malema is a embarresment to young black people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1617756" rel="nofollow">Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)-7</a>:<br />
you pharkin idiot.sevens rugby is a form of rugby in it&#8217;s own right and has helped develop the skills of lots of rugby players.<br />
btw the Bokke are playing in this tournament as well,or are the team to black for you?<br />
you are embarresment to white bluebull supporters just as julius malema is a embarresment to young black people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617756</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 11:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1617755&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheTackler(TheTackler)-6&lt;/a&gt;: 

Good for you, I hope you enjoy watching your 7s.  Me on the other hand, well I prefer watching proper rugby, like the Super 14 final for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1617755" rel="nofollow">TheTackler(TheTackler)-6</a>: </p>
<p>Good for you, I hope you enjoy watching your 7s.  Me on the other hand, well I prefer watching proper rugby, like the Super 14 final for example.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler(TheTackler)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617755</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler(TheTackler)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 11:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samoa have only had the wood on NZ in one year of the last twelve. In eleven of these 12 years, it&#039;s been NZ with their foot on the Samoan --- and everyone else&#039;s -- throat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samoa have only had the wood on NZ in one year of the last twelve. In eleven of these 12 years, it&#8217;s been NZ with their foot on the Samoan &#8212; and everyone else&#8217;s &#8212; throat.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hit(Big Hit)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617743</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hit(Big Hit)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1617738&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheTackler(TheTackler)-3&lt;/a&gt;: Samoa have beaten NZ 6 times out of the last 6 meetings since Dubai and hold the lead, so I&#039;m pretty sure they would be favourites for 2012, however to the best of my knowledge there is no 7s tournament in 2012, Rio will be the first Olympics to showcase the event.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-1617738" rel="nofollow">TheTackler(TheTackler)-3</a>: Samoa have beaten NZ 6 times out of the last 6 meetings since Dubai and hold the lead, so I&#8217;m pretty sure they would be favourites for 2012, however to the best of my knowledge there is no 7s tournament in 2012, Rio will be the first Olympics to showcase the event.</p>
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		<title>By: Partizan(Partizan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Partizan(Partizan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Olympics is a heck of a long time away bud]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Olympics is a heck of a long time away bud</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler(TheTackler)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTackler(TheTackler)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not even one event? Last year they won several and took the series. Flash in the pan, obviously. NZ are by far the most regular winners of this version of rugby over the years and must be the red-hot favourites for that Olympic gold medal in London.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even one event? Last year they won several and took the series. Flash in the pan, obviously. NZ are by far the most regular winners of this version of rugby over the years and must be the red-hot favourites for that Olympic gold medal in London.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617737</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobus Kitty(Kobus Kitty)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a Super final coming on very shortly and this article is at the top of the page...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a Super final coming on very shortly and this article is at the top of the page&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kaksioek(kaksioek)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2010/05/29/edinburgh-sevens-sas-last-chance/#comment-1617736</link>
		<dc:creator>kaksioek(kaksioek)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What has happened to Treu&#039;s team this year? Disappointing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened to Treu&#8217;s team this year? Disappointing.</p>
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