Selectors snub Craven Week kings
3 Jul 2010
Just two players from Free State’s unbeaten Craven Week team have been included in the SA Schools starting XV.
Another four Bloem boys have been named on the bench. Western Province, who suffered a big defeat to Free State on Saturday, have four players in the starting line-up and one among the subs.
Grey College’s William Small-Smith will captain the side.
The back three includes the exciting Western Province duo of fullback Craig Barry and Jean-Paul Lewis. They will be joined by Boland speedster Leroy Bitterhout who scored a hat-trick of tries during his side’s 49-23 victory over KwaZulu-Natal on Saturday.
Small-Smith will partner former SA Schools centre Andile Jho in the midfield. Free State’s Johan Goosen, who scored 22 points during his side’s victory over WP, was selected as the SA Schools flyhalf.
SA Schools – 15 Craig Barry (Western Province), 14 Jean-Paul Lewis (Western Province), 13 William Small-Smith (Free State, c), 12 Andile Jho (Border), 11 Leroy Bitterhout (Boland), 10 Johan Goosen (Free State), 9 Rudi van Rooyen (Blue Bulls), 8 Nardus van der Walt (Blue Bulls), 7 Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Western Province), 6 Khaya Majola (KwaZulu-Natal), 5 Ruan Botha (Valke), 4 Ruan Venter (Golden Lions), 3 Allan Dell (Border), 2 Jason Thomas (Eastern Province), 1 Steven Kitshoff (Western Province).
Subs: 16 Anrich Bitzi (Free State), 17 Neethling Fouche (Free State), 18 Schalk van Heerden (Blue Bulls), 19 Wiaan Liebenberg (Boland), 20 Kevin Luiters (Free State), 21 Paul Jordaan (Free State), 22 Tshotsho Mbovane (Western Province).
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3 Jul 2010, 23:33 pm
@ET(ET)-248: @Transformation(Transformation)-249: Cheers, I am out of here too. Banshee has returned…
Football drama has been good, I shamefully admit… This WC has been great for SA and so far so good – this could be a turning point for the country like no one could ever imagine….
Will be back for the semi and give my thoroughly naive soccer commentary…
3 Jul 2010, 23:34 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-245:
Where did I say he is playing in the semis?
Don’t link two sepearate and pick out only one name from more than one mentioned. And what does other mean. Yes more than two in that sentence of mine that you are now going thru with a microscope in desration and FEAR of the BLITZKRIEG of Germany.
I am out Transie it is the July 4 weekend. Fireworks and drinks abound outside my home even in the rain.
FEAR GERMANY, NOT HOLLAND.
You will not get to them this WC.
3 Jul 2010, 23:35 pm
@ET(ET)-252:
should read: “.. separate points and pick…”
3 Jul 2010, 23:35 pm
anybody thinking that Paraguay team is a gimme is living in doodoo land. They cut the Spaniards down at every opportunity and shut them down and forced the play at every point and harassed and fought tooth and nail for every ball. Germany would have never had their way with Paraguay or Uruguay the way they did with Australia England and Argentina. Same as Serbia cut Germany down to size same as Switzerland did same to Spain same would Paraguay do to bigger teams.
Spain had to fight with every resilient bone in their body to overcome this Paraguay resistance and negotiate a manipulative prima donna ref to boot.
Germany won’t have it easy against Spain this time the wunderkinds will have to deal with some real pro class footballer’s who know how to manage some constructive football of their own.
Can quite easily be a Netherlands Spain final contrary to most beliefs.
3 Jul 2010, 23:38 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-251:
It is not so naive because the same principles mostly apply e.g. deny the opposition the ball(whatever shape) and they cannot score etc., etc.
Sport is mostly sport.
Go well but Shell and not BP
3 Jul 2010, 23:40 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-254:
Don’t get too serious now we are mostly just riling Transie who riles you sometimes.
3 Jul 2010, 23:41 pm
@ET(ET)-239: i pointed you to an incident of cheating by mr glass robben that led to the 1st goal but you chose to reply in the only way you know how, speaking past the facts. Robben is a diver like drogba & ronaldo.
3 Jul 2010, 23:41 pm
Holland got lucky vs Brazil defensive and goalkeeper error turned that game around till that point was all Brazil but soon as they conceded the first own goal the wheels slowly came off.
Arjen Robben is the new Christian Ronaldo, thinks he’s bigger than the game and bigger than his own team too. Schneijders been the one to pull them through everytime just like Villa has for Spain, not Robben who’s more of another prima donna thinking the sun shines out his @nus
3 Jul 2010, 23:52 pm
could still be anyone of last remaining 4 even Uruguay can take Holland and Spain can take Germany. Football is like lucky packet draws or pinball. You pull back the trigger and shoot then watch the thing ricochet every which way sometimes in sometimes out very much a lottery as to who eventually pulls on through. Just like Ghana were practically through had the strike been 30cm lower from the Gyan penalty or like the double post ricochet from the Villa strike today,sometimes they go in and sometimes they don’t thats how close it gets between a win and a loss. Like the 4 penalty goals of Japan vs the 5 from Paraguay thats how close it gets in this type do or did inferno.
3 Jul 2010, 23:57 pm
@ET(ET)-252: hahaha, well spain is playing germany in the semis, so where else can mueller play spain? Don’t be daft here…
twice now you have mentioned mueller’s name in your attempts to make a point that your boy wonders suffer no residual from ’08s dedeat at the hands of la furia roja
4 Jul 2010, 00:03 am
please god, anybody but uruguay
4 Jul 2010, 00:21 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-260:
Muller will play again in the WC Final but not against Spain but against Holland.
Muller’s name, as well as Khedera’s, were(note plural) mentioned in reference to the youthfulness of this German team and thus the youthful group having no fear and residual from that 2008 loss. I could have said Ozil or other names of young ones too. Look at the collective of youthfulness embodied in those names and don’t see what you want to see. Remember I am making the point. I know what my brain processes and no one else really does.
Also Transie I actually don’t like the German team as such, ever, full stop because I favour England, Holland and Brazil in no particular order every WC.
But I am prepared to give credit where it is due and this youthful German team without its selected captain,Ballack, has really astounded me with the manner that they played and beat England and Argentina, two big names in football in their last two games after creating doubt by being beaten by Serbia(amazingly).
For my way of thinking they will have little or NO residual from that game, and played superb football against two HUGE super-powers of the football world in their last games.
To cut a long story very short let us just wait until Tues./Wed. and see the result.
4 Jul 2010, 00:33 am
@charo(charo)-261: annoyed with Suarez?
4 Jul 2010, 00:40 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-259: got to agree skop, with the scoring so low in football the games can often hinge on little things which are so often heavily influenced by sheer fortune
4 Jul 2010, 08:56 am
I am a ex Grey College pupil. What a school! Can any one PLEASE tell how it is possible that no forward from this team was included in the starting XV of the SA School team? They are good enough to win the Craven week but no forward included!
I think the SA schools selection committee are a bunch of idiots!
4 Jul 2010, 09:02 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-263:
understatement of the year
4 Jul 2010, 10:39 am
my nerves are totally klaar with this football…..only Spain left who i give a damn about….so hoping they sort out the Germans…..
Tuesday the Cape is alweer Hollands…..will do thefan mile again…..
I dont think SA ever realised how damn great and huge this soccer WC is!!
Awesome….words cannot describe….
4 Jul 2010, 10:49 am
watching the drama with the penalties last nite i thought i was in a leon schuster make believe set up stunt….how the hell can the drama be so intense?
Hell i was finished…..sitting on thefloor holding my head in disbelief!
4 Jul 2010, 10:55 am
@grant10(grant10)-268: hahahaha it was exciting stuff indeed. The genius andres iniesta conjured up something again. He is one of the most underrated players ever! And San Iker needs no superlatives, the guy has been keeping goals for Spain since he was 17yrs old Iker Casillas you beaut!
4 Jul 2010, 11:40 am
The business of rugby clearly starts at school these days and Grey have mastered the art. Wasnt long ago when some schools were frowned upon for ‘buying’ players. Interesting to see a soutie captaining their side nogal. Anyone care to inform me about Majola and if he descends from his more known names sake (for now anyway). The original KM is Xhosa and from the EC if I’m not mistaken?
4 Jul 2010, 13:12 pm
@Jack Parow(Jack Parow)-270: i’m not sure how the kid is related to the Eastern Cape Majolas because the late Khaya has 2 kids, Vukile & a girl Sphokazi and Gerald his brother has 3 kids, a boy Allister (named after his half-back partner, Stormers coach Allister Coetzee) and 2 other girls…
4 Jul 2010, 13:27 pm
Shot Trans. No doubt we’ll hear more in commentary. Interesting.
4 Jul 2010, 14:33 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-271:
hey! Transie peace to you today but you know WW3 starts earnestly on Tuesday. But ’til then we are E.Cape brothers-in-arms.
More pertinently something you write there I find interesting.
You write:
” (named after his half-back partner, Stormers coach Allister Coetzee) ”
I don’t know why I do not know that these two played as half-back partners at some stage.
Was this at provincial level(E.P.for AC or Kwaru seemingly for GM) or at club level or both?
I’d be very pleased if you can provide some clarity on that.
In the early ’80s two of those youngster Majolas(I don’t know who now) stayed with me as part of the non-racial E.P. table-tennis team in that championship in C.Town. My cousin was captain of that team and part of his med.consultant practice was based in New Brighton(fond memories that period with all the community involvment).
I know a Sphokazi from Gugs. here in Philly.
4 Jul 2010, 19:40 pm
FS boys played really well, who knows what the selectors were thinking… racist quotas again??
4 Jul 2010, 20:09 pm
Anyone still convinced that quotas don’t exist? 2 FS players! No Howard at 12? Eish.
4 Jul 2010, 20:35 pm
@Oubaas2009(Oubaas2009)-275: yes quotas exist, habana, guthro, de jong, aplon, beast.
4 Jul 2010, 20:56 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-276: According to the likes of you and Khompela Beast is makwerekwere not quota
4 Jul 2010, 21:42 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-11: Being screwed up by Eric Sauls, along with everything else he touches.
4 Jul 2010, 22:04 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-277: yes tendai was born in zimbabwe like skinstad & the like, big deal.
@SjamBok(SjamBok)-278: how can that be, when some of them eg blommetjies, van velze, brummer played in the friendly yesterday an Tacitus gave them the thumbs up, surely the sauls is doing a good job
4 Jul 2010, 22:09 pm
And then they wonder why teh U20′s get stuffed at the junior world cups. When you select badly at lower age group, thegood players will go else where, r fall out of teh system. The players not selected on merit go on to provide a bad foundation for the rest of our age group teams.
The selectors at lower age groups are still mates of mates and part timers that are actually sports masters at school, with their class favourites, and doing teh job part time. They are amateurs, and select their buddies kids, and the rest according to the 50/50 quota system (because they have to). Actually this is probably the most important job of the lot. Accurate identification of talent at the lowest age groups is critical to ensure that special talent does not fall out of tehsystem because they were never selected despite playing better and trying harder than the others. The selectors should be professional, and theur JOBS should be dependent on how well their age grou pteams perform.
Frankly, if the SA Schools team is beaten by SA academy (again) they should all lose their jobs (and get a p@$klap from every rugby supporter in the land). They are not doing SA rugby any favours by their incompetence. There is no place for anything but the best performers in any sporting team.
4 Jul 2010, 22:40 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-279: So does that make him an uitlander like Skinstad, Teichmann, Chavangha, Ryk van Schoor, Ray Mordt, Ian Robertson, Van Jaarsveldt, Chris Rogers, Andy MacDonald, Adrian Garvey and others… Makwerekwere all, according to you…
4 Jul 2010, 22:41 pm
@SjamBok(SjamBok)-280: SA Schools has always been beaten by the “ACademy”. In my day it was called “Nampak”!
5 Jul 2010, 13:48 pm
What an absolute joke!! What an insult! Sure there’s no quotas in rugby – hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Just like in 2007 – the tournament played in Stellenbosch that year – arguably the strongest schools team in SA ever – the invincible Free State thrashed WP in the Final that year – 52-3 (with the Ebersohn brothers at 10 and 13) – yet – also only 2 FS players made the SA Schools starting XV…
Yet again – weaker, inferior, players are selected ahead of clearly better players. And, of course, the quota numbers have to be met.
I have an idea! Let Free State Schools play the SA Schools team (FS obviously have first right on their 2 players selected)… Come on SARU!! Hahahahahahahahaha – will never happen – SARU would never allow their quota team to be clearly embarrassed by a superior Free State team…!!
Hahahahahaha – they make it so obvious (are they still going to deny quotas exist??) – let the whole rugby world know the TRUTH about SA Schools team selections…
Free State is our rugby nursery – the perennial nursery of SA rugby. FACT. Yet – they get snubbed every year – yet every year – Grey Bloem and Free State are the best in SA – by far! And, of course, Free State is the “feeder union” for the wealthier, leeching, unions – especially the Blue Bulls and the Sharks!
Well done Free State on winning Craven Week – and thrashing all others – again!!
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