Boks won’t boot kick-chase to touch
16 Jul 2010
John Smit says it’s the execution of their kick-chase approach and not the game plan itself that is fundamentally flawed.
It seems the All Blacks coaching staff and media feel they have a pattern that is foolproof under the new breakdown law interpretations. This after one victory over the Springboks. What’s more, it appears that they view the Springboks’ kick-chase approach, which was central to their success in 2009 (and accounted for the Blacks thrice), as grossly outdated and seemingly feel the need to suggest that to their opponents at every given opportunity.
Certainly there were flaws in the system, not least of all the absence scrumhalf Fourie du Preez, who punted teams into oblivion last year, and his successor, Ricky Januarie’s inability to replicate that excellence. But the manner in which the Springboks are being berated, albeit often in a veiled manner, for their preferred style of play is unfair.
Smith scoffed at the suggestion that the Springboks are playing stone age rugby in a modern world.
‘We’ve had a reasonable amount of success with the new laws in the Super 14 and the tests played this year,’ Smit said. ‘Everyone’s interested about the brand of rugby we try to play. We try to play the brand that’s necessary and the players that are selected.
‘It’s one that we change depending on who we play, but it’s one that we didn’t execute very well last Saturday and hopefully we can do that better tomorrow.’
The Springboks displayed their versatility last year by running Australia ragged in Perth, and while some concerns linger about the potency of their kick-chase pattern without Du Preez in the mix, they maintain that they undermined their own cause with their kicking inaccuracy and the lack of purposefulness from the chasing line.
Smit stressed that there is a belief within the squad that they would rebound in Wellington, and cited their dramatic 30-28 victory in Dunedin in 2008 (after losing in Wellington the previous week) as a source of their motivation.
‘It’s the experiences from that turnaround week that the guys will hold onto,’ Smit said. ‘I didn’t make that trip to Dunedin, but watching that game after the result here [in Wellington] it was pretty satisfying.
‘I can only imagine that the guys on that trip would have had those memories of what can be done and what should be done if you apply yourself, so it’s that which the guys will pull themselves towards tomorrow.
‘When you’re away from home and the expectation is on the home side to win and you want to change that, you have to do what you’re really good at well for 80 minutes,’ he added.
‘When you do that you give yourself the chance for the ball to bounce the right way. It was a dramatic win in Dunedin, but it came from a phenomenal chip and chase. Sometimes that bounce doesn’t go your way in away games, so you’ve got to force the situation yourself through your own tactics and own belief.’
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16 Jul 2010, 16:22 pm
Zane Kirchner is a Simpson.
HHHHHHHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEEEE LLLLLLLLLLLLL PPPPPPPPPPPP
SPRINGBOK RUGBY!!!
NO MORE RASCIST SELECTIONS!
16 Jul 2010, 19:21 pm
Smit is a dinosaur moron time to get kicked and chased right out his forlorn JW game plan nowhere misery
As for these other dinosaurs like Luster Johannsen and Hondo sooner they get put out their prehistoric puritanical prejudice the better, time to drop Smit and every other white quota player still hanging onto dismal derelict daydreams of debunked defunct yesterday
Let the axe of demographic equalizing chop those dumb debilitated derelict delinquents denying minds into the dust of their delirious delusions.
16 Jul 2010, 20:16 pm
@Luster Johannsen(Luster Johannsen)-51:
A-hole
16 Jul 2010, 21:47 pm
@assagai(ahura)-52: Guys like you that have kak for brains sang the same old song in 2006. And what happened in 2007.
you would not know because you hair on your head grows inwards where theres space.
And to come back to your post – the Boks did well over the years considering all these useless blacks thats pulling them down. Hey but thats what South Africa is all about. Putting useless people in positions so that they can think they are worth something.
16 Jul 2010, 22:36 pm
I can’t believe that they think they can beat the All Blacks with a kick and chase strategy and Januarie as scrumhalf. Are they really that stupid? I can only hope this is a ruse. If they really want to kick the ball then they have to start with Pienaar. This is not just because he can actually kick, but because he is fit enough to get to ruck after ruck and has a pass that will get the ball to Morne Steyn before Weepu and the AB loose forwards.
16 Jul 2010, 23:29 pm
dumb @ss idiots like this donki kong twat still think something happened in 2007 when all that happened is Bok’s got an open sesame cake walk freebie through to catch a gimme WC where the only difference between a hero and a zero were Argentina ranked 6 and England ranked 7
debilitated dumb schmuck idiots like these white dinosaurs need to get their dumb schmuck white snouts rubbed deep in their own delinquent mire of delusional idiocy.
About time the record got set straight, the age of the dead and buried white dinosaur is nigh, AB’s must just hammer these fools expectations all the way back to the denial driven debility from where these prehistoric @ssholes originate, in the dark ages.
16 Jul 2010, 23:33 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-56: shut it you old drunk.
16 Jul 2010, 23:38 pm
here’s hoping Ab’s shut it up good for all these dumb delinquents still hoping against hope that captain delusional don’t pull a poepstring through his dubious @nus tomorrow.
They still can’t recognize where the real cancer in the setup begins nor ends while its staring them square in their dumb deluded hero worshiping faces, game after game, week after week.
16 Jul 2010, 23:47 pm
@skopskiet(yliad)-58: freakshow, why dont you go stick that assagai up your skopskiet.
17 Jul 2010, 00:06 am
don’t say you weren’t warned when the inevitable reality of your dumb schmuck delusional hero worshiping daydream gets exposed for the denial driven lie it is. Smit will never carry this team to 2011, if he gets through 2010 it will be nigh on a comprehensive miracle of miracles.
The entire dubious nature of this absolute delusional expectation rests on this overweight overrated overly stultified stupidity of idiotic hero worshiping over a chump clump clot of a dead and buried clown of a captain, and yet these schmucks still cannot see it till doomsday itself shifts the wood from their blotted belligerent blighted bewildered eyes.
17 Jul 2010, 00:10 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-60: Hey chuckles, if the Boks lose every game this 3N, do you know what will happen? They will put Smit in cotton wool and save him for next year. Aint it cool?
17 Jul 2010, 00:24 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-55:
to say our strategy is just kick chase is just lazy. it is but one tactic we use in our overall game plan.
the fact is the boks are never comfortable running from their own half, and we should not expect them to replicate the all blacks by running from everywhere. remember it has only been succesaful for the ABs once out of the last 4 times they have played the boks.
the boks like to play for territory and field position, and then apply the pressure from there in any number of ways. last week they failed miserably in that area, and they also failed miserably in winning the collisions and so the ABs profited by giving us a pasting.
in terms of an alternative to using the kick chase when in your own half of the field what do you suggest?
the boks will be much better tonight. not sure they’ll win, but home advantage is worth 10 points, and if the boks keep it tight, or sneak a win that’ll be a great result.
lets not forget we’re missing du preez, steyn, JPP, smith, bismarck and brussouw. thats 6 of the starting team from last year – with 4 of those guaranteed starting places if available and one who should be there already if not for the issues between him and the coach.
17 Jul 2010, 00:24 am
cool as a dead beat dead and buried bewildered head in the sand blow dried cucumber. John Smit is the beginning and the end of the entire kick and chase dumb f’ck delusional delinquency that will blow up in your dumb bewildered hero worshiping faces. No hope in f’ng hell carrying this clown through to 2011. Carry on carrying the carrion crowning clot reality is coming whether you ready to recognize it or not.
17 Jul 2010, 00:32 am
@ssholes still think they can win without the ball ala brilliant rocket science Jake White strategy of 2007 when the laws of the game have been switched around 180 degrees specifically to counter that dumb derelict @ss about face delusional delinquency of a game plan. But John Smit still think thats the way we play to our strengths.
F’ck this I’m hoping AB’s teach these idiots the biggest rugby lesson since 49-0. I’m hoping they get the biggest hiding of their dumb f’ck bewildered non strategic dumb@ss delusional lives.
17 Jul 2010, 00:33 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-63: You’re so optimistic and full of whimsy. Don’t ever change, tickles.
17 Jul 2010, 00:37 am
yeah optimistic that this idiot clown of a captain is going to run rings around his opposition playing kick and chase garbage
go bury your head in the debilitating sand some more. Bok’s need to get f’ck’d up good and holy solid tomorrow if ever there is going to be any hopeful evolution in our dead and buried @ss about face 19-voetsek JW game style.
17 Jul 2010, 00:40 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-62: By and large I agree with kicking from your own half – but I don’t agree with Januarie – period. He can’t kick, he can’t pass, he can’t run. What is he doing on a rugby field? he used to have mongrel – now he has a moerse big boep. What’s the use of that? You can’t play kick and chase with the Michelin man at scrumhalf. Sure, Smit is overweight – but he’s not the man passing the ball from the forwards to the backs. And nobody tried to convert Januarie into a tighthead prop – although that would make more sense than him playing scrumhalf in the 3N.
17 Jul 2010, 00:47 am
Smit is the problem not Januarie
get shot of Smit and you halfway to redemption, continue in your derelict delusion under this idiot going nowhere fast and its all over rover bar the shouting. Mealamu and Franks and Woodcock must just drill these pansy poefta boys up their own @nuses again so we can see reality from fiction. Januarie was hardly the cause of the consternation last week while the real cancer in the concubine conundrum is staring these schmuck swallowing hero worshipers in their dumb@ss denying faces.
17 Jul 2010, 00:48 am
I reckon that either of the Stormers or the Bulls would have done better than the Boks did against the ABs last weekend. There are three main reasons for that: different coaches, different strategy, and Januarie would get little or no game time.
17 Jul 2010, 00:50 am
On Saturday we will see two of the fattest scrumhalves in the world going at it. That should be quite something.
17 Jul 2010, 00:53 am
play any scrum half behind that turbo reversing capitulating circus of a loose weight five and watch them disintegrate into dereliction. FdP did squat against Ireland even with a superior front foot platform he still mangaed to stuff procedings to hell and gone.
AB’s to stuff these poefta’s straight back into dumbbell dreary eyed dumbness before they catch a wide awake realization that they on a one way ticket to hope and a prayer Deadsville.
17 Jul 2010, 00:57 am
Problem at the boks is John Smit, and that realization is yet to dawn on the vast majority of saffa goo goo gaga goody golly gumdrop delirious rugby supporters. Wait for the fallout when the realization occurs, its just around the corner, the sooner the better for all concerned before any further denial driven delinquent damage befalls this team and nation.
17 Jul 2010, 00:58 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-71: Where’s your assegai? Maybe if you log in as your alter ego you can turn that frown upside down. Give it a crack.
17 Jul 2010, 00:59 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-72: If I agree that Smit shouldn’t be playing, will you agree that Januarie should be put out to pasture?
17 Jul 2010, 01:05 am
last week chief protagonists of the fall from grace was in successive order
Smit
Du Plessis
Botha
Louw
Spies
Steyn
WO
Fourie
JdV
Players that tried but were found wanting
Steenkamp
Matfield
Burger
Januarie
Habana
Kirchner
now which of those were/are quotas? you could be excused for believing its the captain and his ra ra entourage of dumb @ss white schmuck faced fools.
17 Jul 2010, 01:09 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-75: Why must it be all about colour for you?
Who do you think is more respected in New Zealand as a rugby player? John Smit or Ricky Januarie?
Too easy right?
How about Ruan Pienaar or Ricky Januarie?
Which of them do you think Graham Henry would pick?
But you don’t like cold hard facts, do you Skoppie?
17 Jul 2010, 01:15 am
Just a pity Du Preez and F. Steyn not playing because then it would be a real treat witnessing exactly who the Januarie bashers and John Smit & his white quota apologists would be lambasting and heaping the blame on then.
17 Jul 2010, 01:23 am
Ruan Pienaar is not suited to scrum half play in New Zealand and Henry would never pick him at 9, probably at 10 yes where he should be playing but not 9.
Play Pienaar at 9 behind that debacle of a useless 8 man nonentity and watch him disintegrate worse than Januarie, Januarie least still has some balls to stand and fight his ground where Pienaar and poefta FdP disappear into the ether they both hail from.
Pienaar should play 10, damn sight better than deep in the pocket one dimensional M. Steyn.
The entire fiasco is adopting this archaic dead beat hopeless useless antiquated kick and chase game plan vested on the boot of FdP and M. Steyn which worked wonders in France and Ireland last Eoyt and is showing exactly how wonderful a strategy it is right now.
The sooner this dumb debilitated dead and buried game plan that is the only strategy Smit actually knows anything about is booted all the way out to touch is the only time we ever have half a chance of any success this year or next.
Continue in this dumb debilitated delirious notion of stupefied stultified delinquent humdrum kick and chase garbage and kiss any vestige of a chance of any success in 3N or WC here and now goodbye.
17 Jul 2010, 01:24 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-77: You won’t have to wait too long Skoppie. Who do you think will start when Fourie returns? That’s right. PDV will have had enough of losing by the time Fourie heals.
17 Jul 2010, 01:26 am
FDP and Frans Steyn wouldn’t have won that game for SA. They were totally dominated up front, when that happens no back in the world is going to make a blind bit of difference to the scoreboard. At best, Frans might’ve kicked a couple more 3 pointers for 50/60m.
The real losses to my mind for SA have been in the forward pack. The power, aggression of Bismarck and impact and dynamism of the Beast as well as the physicality of Juan Smith (Spies/Louw not turning up).
There was also the point that the Boks weren’t tuned in mentally, some might call it complacency, others might call it arrogance but whatever the reason you can’t expect to win the game if you don’t take the opposition seriously.
17 Jul 2010, 01:34 am
You carry on believing in your soothsaying hero messiah the same one that f’ck’d our chances vs Ireland and France into the heavens, you reckon FdP would have made any difference last week, just wish he was here playing this dumb f’ck delusional game plan strategy, same as he did on Eoyt so we could worship the prissy little sweet fairy mommy’s boy some more. He knows exactly when his number is well and truly cooked thats why he baled out when he could, let him come back and resurrect your delinquent captain’s imbecilic idea of playing to our strengths, lets try kick and chase some more to oblivion and beyond same as we did vs Ireland with FdP and M. Steyn at the helm of the capitulation.
Idiots supreme can’t wait for reality to bite down hard on these self made delusions of self designating grandeur. This game plan is a perfect absolute guarantee for failure, let them continue in their absolute delusional idiocy with or without FdP makes absolutely zero difference as Eoyt showed without any dubious doubt whatsoever.
17 Jul 2010, 01:39 am
@skopskiet(yliad)-81: What? No 49-0 reference in that rant (though I did see you mention it earlier)? Could it be that you’ve finally got it into your skull that Januarie played the majority of that game? You’re good for a giggle.
17 Jul 2010, 01:42 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-80:
but big hit its juanauarie and smit that lost the game for us….
you tell the truth thats for sure. we did not pitch up and the whole team was ****. trying to judge individual performances is very difficult when the whole team is off the way they were.
in fact the only player that looked up to it was kirchner, who stood out as a result, despite the fact he is one of the decidedly more average players in this bok team.
tonight will give us a better indication of where we are at, and who should or should not be there. if spies puts in a similar performance to last week i think he will be the first to go, despite PDV fascination with and complete dedication to him. smit also has to step it up, but by him own admission he was **** and he knows he needs to put in a better performance tonight or skops words will ring true with bissie ousting him on his return.
17 Jul 2010, 08:07 am
“Boks won’t boot kick-chase to touch”
A bold statement, we shall see
17 Jul 2010, 08:17 am
The Boks won only once against the ABs without Bakkie since 2002, the one test at Rustenburg in 2006 that Bakkie was absent has it credentials in questions all along
The Boks won only one Test against the ABs without FdP since 2003.
The Boks won 3 Tests against the ABs with F Styen in the starting line-up.
All that means the probability to win isn’t great, but taking into account Alain Roland as the referee the Boks do have a fair chance, that guy is on the taking and the NZRU is cash strapped
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